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E4gt future proof

So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december), and I want to be sure this thing will stay satisfying for two years.
Primarily, I want to avoid issues the epic 4g has: limited (although what there is is extremely dedicated) dev support and lack of cm/miui that keeps the phone stuck at outdated os iterations (which is mostly sammy's fault anyway).
What im asking is, is this phone a dev darling and do they promise to love it for ever, even after samsung abandons it in 8 months?
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There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"

which ROM makes Banana Pancakes?
Mine only makes Buttermilk.....

Premier program upgrade expires 12/31/12 you have a good year and two months to make a decision.

Trickee360 said:
So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december)
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Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.

When it comes to electronics, nothing is future proof!
The SGS2 is a great phone today and while it might not be the top of the line in a few months it will still be able to handle it's own.
There is one thing I am jealous of with the Galaxy Nexus, and that is the HD screen. If the SGS2 would have had an HD screen, it would be right up there with the GN. I do not count ICS because the SGS2 will eventually get it. If the GN only had a qhd screen I don't think I would care as much....Seems almost like qhd screens didn't stay around as the top dog for to long. Guess the lower end devices will be going qhd while top end goes 720p to compete.

The point is well taken that there's no such thing as a future-proofe phone. I should have qualified that I am asking if this phone appears likely to enjoy EVO or HD2-like developer love. I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
I was on the phone with Sprint for an hour and a half talking about my upgrade status and they repeatedly told me it would expire on Dec 31, 2011. I guess I'll call again and ask again. I don't know what to trust anymore. If I get another year I'll be extatic.
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The program itself ends 12/31/11 but you have until the end of next year to use your upgrade.

Just called Sprint to confirm my upgrade won't expire! Thanks so much for the heads-up, my XDA brothers XD
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I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.

sfhub said:
Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.
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I did not know that, i just checked and next September I have an upgrade available... cool.

worldwidepmp said:
I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.
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Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated

G1-8701 said:
Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN. We will get ICS whether it be official or not, so that will really even the playing field. So our phone is future proof until you start seeing quad core phones come out and well as Sprint LTE phones. But I would say you are good for at least the next year to year and half with the SGS2.
When the specs for the SGS3 get dropped, I am betting that will be a game changer and Samsungs flagship phone, not the Nexus.

buggerritt said:
There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"
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I hate you... Now I want Banana pancakes!

IMO, dual core SOCs and 1GB RAM are the major milestone for smartphones. Quad cores will improve benchmarks, but probably not much else. Cutting edge OS is what's important to me now, which the GN covers nicely
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN.
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Not quite. We don't have NFC or a barometer, either. The lack of NFC means we can't use Google Wallet or Beam... ever, and the barometer means slower GPS locks and we can't use any other aps that take advantage of it.
I don't quite understand why Sprint had Samsung remove the NFC chip... it's the only GS2 variant that doesn't have one, and aside from LTE, that's the newest feature everyone is jumping on lately.
This phone will have a lot of life in it, but it's not future proof.

The nexus has a cheap pentile display. Go with the epic touch you won't regret it. And it has a sa+ display!
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Trickee360 said:
I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
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I really enjoyed the support out there for my EVO 4G, and was a little disappointed at the lack of options out there right now for my shiney new E4GT (not complaining, stating a fact, back off flamers)
However, read through the forums for the other variations of the SGS2 and you can see it's out there for them. I just think Sprints baby is a little late to the party, but is going to get it's fair share of cake. Read through some of the Developer posts and there is news popping up fairly regularly about test builds of CM7 and MIUI...

I am getting closer and closer to getting this. I just know a week after I do the galaxy nexus will be announced for sprint.
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I'll be honest, this is my first android phone (epic touch 4g), but I have been tinkering with anything that draws power since I was a little guy ripping apart old stereo receivers and what not! Sure, something with some more bang is bound to come out in the next few months or so; but in my opinion, a device with the capabilities exhibited by this phone are not going to be overlooked anytime soon! Some people may dump the phone and grab whatever is better on the market at that time, but dev is not going to halt for this phone anytime soon as far as I can tell. Even before getting this phone I've done lots of research on android phones and spoken to friends that have owned such, and this is phone definitely marks a milestone in my opinion. Sure it has its bugs, I get LoS once a week or so; but despite its flaws (which will be resolved by the manufacturer or else!) it is a great phone and will serve any user well for YEARS! Hell, I had a Blackberry 8330 for a few years, wasn't anything special by any means at all but with some TLC and mods it was a great phone for as long as I had it. The ET4G should last a Looooooong time...
Edit: I also wanted to say, to those who were saying things about the Galaxy Nexus coming out for Sprint. Sure you may be able to the phone with Sprint in the very near future, but is it not quite similar to the ET4G? Really I guess it depends on preference and such. From what I've read and heard, though...the phones are not THAT much different so I guess whatever feel you like best is what you should get! Cheers!

Wait for new nexus or get SIII now?

My contract is up and my upgrade is now in full effect. I currently have the nexus s 4G and the nexus tablet so needless to say i am a fan of the nexus line. That being said my contract is up and i am really looking at getting the SIII. Wanted to get feedback from this forum on whether or not they still love their phone after being out for several months yet or do you think it is worth waiting (for who nows how long, probably end of this year) for google to release the new nexus phone? what do you like about the SIII, what do you not like? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.

Buy mine for a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade and keep your upgrade for the next Nexus when you call sell off the S3. Problem solved

MadFlava said:
Buy mine for a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade and keep your upgrade for the next Nexus when you call sell off the S3. Problem solved
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wat.

cnstarz said:
wat.
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Im selling my Sprint SGS3. I was saying he could buy it and keep his upgrade intact in case A) He wants to cancel or B) Something better eventually comes along.

cardsfan01 said:
My contract is up and my upgrade is now in full effect. I currently have the nexus s 4G and the nexus tablet so needless to say i am a fan of the nexus line. That being said my contract is up and i am really looking at getting the SIII. Wanted to get feedback from this forum on whether or not they still love their phone after being out for several months yet or do you think it is worth waiting (for who nows how long, probably end of this year) for google to release the new nexus phone? what do you like about the SIII, what do you not like? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.
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I wanted to hold out for the next Nexus, but after seeing the S3 and its specs I couldn't wait any longer. Granted, I was sick of the horrid camera on my EVO 3D, but I still feel like whatever the Nexus has for specs will be pretty comparable to the S3. If you have more willpower than I do, it might be worth waiting. If you can't wait, the S3 is fantastic. (Ignore my posts about battery life - I'm pretty sure I'm at fault and I haven't figured out why. )

cardsfan01 said:
My contract is up and my upgrade is now in full effect. I currently have the nexus s 4G and the nexus tablet so needless to say i am a fan of the nexus line. That being said my contract is up and i am really looking at getting the SIII. Wanted to get feedback from this forum on whether or not they still love their phone after being out for several months yet or do you think it is worth waiting (for who nows how long, probably end of this year) for google to release the new nexus phone? what do you like about the SIII, what do you not like? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.
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I was forced to use my upgrade when the sIII was out but I wish I had the next nexus
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MadFlava said:
Buy mine for a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade and keep your upgrade for the next Nexus when you call sell off the S3. Problem solved
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It looks like you're selling yours for $450 though... How is that "a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade"?

Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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akns said:
It looks like you're selling yours for $450 though... How is that "a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade"?
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Its way cheaper than walking in and buying it off contract.
Not to mention Im throwing in an SD card and it has an Invisible Shield HD on it. You couldnt walk out of Best Buy much under $300 after you add in tax. Hell, Ill pay the shipping at $450.00.

KBizzle said:
Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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So you think Samsung will stop making mobile phones because of this? Good Lord, I hope you're wrong, that seems a bit much.
But to the OP, if you wait it out, your next question will be "get nexus now or wait for SGS IV" assuming what KB said isn't true of course.

KBizzle said:
Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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right.... so the number 1 selling cellphone company in the world is going to stop because of Apple.. The only thing I see coming from this is Samsung will stop help making the Iphone 6 when it comes out next year (Not the Iphone 5 coming in a few weeks).. Which I think has already been confirmed..

If you're willing to wait till the next years IO ( or possibly Q3/4 2013) then sure.
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KBizzle said:
Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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You are are about as clueless as your name sounds...wake up get informed before making stupid remarks like this. The only issue that Samsung as is with a few infringements on things like snap back pinch to zoom, but all other issues were in regards to the 1st Galaxy S and trade dress, and out right copy infringement. People like you should never speak before getting your facts straight.

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You are are about as clueless as your name sounds...wake up get informed before making stupid remarks like this. The only issue that Samsung as is with a few infringements on things like snap back pinch to zoom, but all other issues were in regards to the 1st Galaxy S and trade dress, and out right copy infringement. People like you should never speak before getting your facts straight.
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Ummm dude do you know who KBizzle is??? Do you know what he has done?!?
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QWIKSTRIKE said:
You are are about as clueless as your name sounds...wake up get informed before making stupid remarks like this. The only issue that Samsung as is with a few infringements on things like snap back pinch to zoom, but all other issues were in regards to the 1st Galaxy S and trade dress, and out right copy infringement. People like you should never speak before getting your facts straight.
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Calm down man. I guess I should have put some smileys. My comment was purely sarcastic in the sense of being disgusted in the outcome of the lawsuit. Opinion is opinion, not fact. I sincerely hope it doesn't come to this but as I read somewhere, it wouldn't hurt Samsung to stop making cell devices as their profits can come from their many other products.
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I was going to wait, but jumped at the S3. I'm happy with my decision.
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the S III is a good phone. matter of fact it's a really, really good phone but nothing gets the development that a nexus gets. chances are the new nexus will have specs equal to or slightly better than the S III. you could have the best of both worlds by waiting.

Wait. Although this phone is still new to date there isn't much AOSP development. With out that this phone is nice but.... TouchWiz other than bells and whistles makes this phone, slow. I have had cm10 and aokp on this device and it's a totally different animal. I guess I understand why people like TouchWiz but it really takes away from this phones true potential. Just really depends on whether you want a phone based on performance or one based on glitz and glam. I would not be surprised to see a quad core in the next nexus with the 4G lte chips becoming available. Something else to consider.
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FL0OD said:
Wait. Although this phone is still new to date there isn't much AOSP development. With out that this phone is nice but.... TouchWiz other than bells and whistles makes this phone, slow. I have had cm10 and aokp on this device and it's a totally different animal. I guess I understand why people like TouchWiz but it really takes away from this phones true potential. Just really depends on whether you want a phone based on performance or one based on glitz and glam. I would not be surprised to see a quad core in the next nexus with the 4G lte chips becoming available. Something else to consider.
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The nice thing about TW phones is you have the choice...you can always put AOSP on here, but you couldn't go vice versa on a Nexus phone. If you despise TW that much, then you wouldn't want it anyway, but there's no question the Galaxy series phones ALWAYS have the best hardware when made. You can always change software, but you can't really change the hardware.
The biggest question in my mind is will the next Nexus have the new A15 processor. If it does, it'll be a mighty big upgrade. If not, it won't be that impressive from a hardware standpoint, maybe up to par with what the SIII already has, but six months later.
New processor tech like this only comes out maybe once every three or so years I believe. If the Nexus has a dual A15, it'll smoke anything else out without a shadow of a doubt. Then I think some people, myself included, would be a little bummed about getting the SIII when we did. Heck, I had my upgrade for a year and a half before I finally got the SIII, and I'm glad I did. This phone is freaking awesome, but my only disappointment was it didn't come with the A15.
The other thing is will they release a new Nexus without a new OS? I don't think they can possibly release another OS this fall. I think like 60 some percent of phones are still running Gingerbread which would mean those phones are running three version old software. Not exactly an ideal situation for Google in my opinion.

hayzooos said:
The nice thing about TW phones is you have the choice...you can always put AOSP on here, but you couldn't go vice versa on a Nexus phone. If you despise TW that much, then you wouldn't want it anyway, but there's no question the Galaxy series phones ALWAYS have the best hardware when made. You can always change software, but you can't really change the hardware.
The biggest question in my mind is will the next Nexus have the new A15 processor. If it does, it'll be a mighty big upgrade. If not, it won't be that impressive from a hardware standpoint, maybe up to par with what the SIII already has, but six months later.
New processor tech like this only comes out maybe once every three or so years I believe. If the Nexus has a dual A15, it'll smoke anything else out without a shadow of a doubt. Then I think some people, myself included, would be a little bummed about getting the SIII when we did. Heck, I had my upgrade for a year and a half before I finally got the SIII, and I'm glad I did. This phone is freaking awesome, but my only disappointment was it didn't come with the A15.
The other thing is will they release a new Nexus without a new OS? I don't think they can possibly release another OS this fall. I think like 60 some percent of phones are still running Gingerbread which would mean those phones are running three version old software. Not exactly an ideal situation for Google in my opinion.
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Remember there's hundreds of android products around the world from high end to low end. These things simply just take time. Remember when froyo was the majority and gingerbread was the minority? Well look it now. And also alot of older phones just dont have the right processing power/hardware to run ics properly

Optimus G pre order page is up!

Well, for the apparently small number of us that care, you can now pre order the Optimus on sprints website. I just placed an order for mine. Super happy to be ditching my Evo 3D. Now hopefully we can get some people together to crack the boot loader.
I just saw that you can get it for 149 on wire fly with a two year contract but I bought mine full price from Sprint. No contract for me.

just ordered mine from wirefly
are we supposed to be getting the phone on the 10th or 12th?
the 11th falls on a sunday

No idea...hopefully the 10th.

ncfastls1 said:
No idea...hopefully the 10th.
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Sprint's site suggests that it should come before the 11th "Pre-order: Order online today! We'll charge your card for your phone and do our best to get it to you before others get a glimpse on Sunday, November 11."
Wirefly says that they are shipping them on November 11.
I'd rather save the $50 and order from Wirefly. What's 3-4 more days when you've waited 2 years?

Where's the white one??

Ordered mine from Sprint today in hopes that I receive it on the 10th, maybe even the 9th...

If LG doesn't unlock the bootloader, will it be hard for devs to unlock it themselves? Considering that i has the same hardware as the Nexus 4.

why get this phone over the GS3 or the GN2??? just curious, the Optimus G don't even come close to the GS3/GN2..

fresh_TD said:
why get this phone over the GS3 or the GN2??? just curious, the Optimus G don't even come close to the GS3/GN2..
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Come close in what? It has a faster processor and arguably better screen along with being a little smaller. Probably a better camera (more mp anyway on the sprint version), more solid build quality... i feel like i'm forgetting something.

you guys are crazy...
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Come close in what? It has a faster processor and arguably better screen along with being a little smaller. Probably a better camera (more mp anyway on the sprint version), more solid build quality... i feel like i'm forgetting something.
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LOL..its made by LG, enough said.. faster processor??, not noticeable to the naked eye.. and the camera is crap even though it has more megapixels.. you can't replace the battery and no microSD expansion slot, it only comes wit ICS out the box with the hopes of an update to JB.. date is unknown, thats if you guys even get an update to JB.. no Sbeam,Smemo,Multi tasking..need I say more?? you might as well get an Iphone

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LOL..its made by LG, enough said.. faster processor??, not noticeable to the naked eye.. and the camera is crap even though it has more megapixels.. you can't replace the battery and no microSD expansion slot, it only comes wit ICS out the box with the hopes of an update to JB.. date is unknown, thats if you guys even get an update to JB.. no Sbeam,Smemo,Multi tasking..need I say more?? you might as well get an Iphone
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If this phone is such crap, then why are you even posting in here? Go back to your gs3 sub forum if you have nothing to contribute

ncfastls1 said:
If this phone is such crap, then why are you even posting in here? Go back to your gs3 sub forum if you have nothing to contribute
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OP, Im just trying to save you from wasting money on a device like this:good:..Ill just leave this with you guys....enjoy!!!
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp

fresh_TD said:
why get this phone over the GS3 or the GN2??? just curious, the Optimus G don't even come close to the GS3/GN2..
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LOL..its made by LG, enough said.. faster processor??, not noticeable to the naked eye.. and the camera is crap even though it has more megapixels.. you can't replace the battery and no microSD expansion slot, it only comes wit ICS out the box with the hopes of an update to JB.. date is unknown, thats if you guys even get an update to JB.. no Sbeam,Smemo,Multi tasking..need I say more?? you might as well get an Iphone
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OP, Im just trying to save you from wasting money on a device like this:good:..Ill just leave this with you guys....enjoy!!!
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp
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Obvious troll is obvious.

fresh_TD said:
LOL..its made by LG, enough said.. faster processor??, not noticeable to the naked eye.. and the camera is crap even though it has more megapixels.. you can't replace the battery and no microSD expansion slot, it only comes wit ICS out the box with the hopes of an update to JB.. date is unknown, thats if you guys even get an update to JB.. no Sbeam,Smemo,Multi tasking..need I say more?? you might as well get an Iphone
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Uh yes it is. Every review compares it to the Galaxy S3 and says it is considerably faster, which you can literally see. Also, yes, I do concede that LG has made some bad phones in the past, but so did HTC before the nexus one and Samsung before the Galaxy S (the behold and moment were awful). Reviewers said this could be the rise of LG and I happen to agree. Great looking hardware, great screen, amazing processor, top of the line specs. It doesn't need gimmicky features like sbeam which require people to have the same phone (how many people do you know with an S3? If they don't have one, that feature is moot). Camera, I don't really care about, but reviewers said it is about on par with the One X and GS3. The date for JB isn't exact but they said Q4 and if I remember correctly, lg has been more accurate with their software promises than Samsung, who promised my device Gingerbread in July of last year, but didn't even roll it out until November. Smemo, who cares? And the Optimus has a very similar feature, I forget the name of it, but they've shown how in many situations, like in a call, you can press a button and write down a phone number or address for example. Multitasking is more or less the same. The recent apps UI is the same, unlike HTC's, and it also has Qslide, which is similar to pop up play, but you can adjust the transparency and opacity with a slider so you can decide which window you want to be able to see more clearly. No microsd is a bummer, but so is pentile and terrible cheap plastic build quality.
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Xboxfan, you said everything I didn't want to type haha.
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Xboxfan, you said everything I didn't want to type haha.
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+1
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fresh_TD said:
OP, Im just trying to save you from wasting money on a device like this:good:..Ill just leave this with you guys....enjoy!!!
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp
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Thanks for the link. It just made my buying decision easier. Especially this part:
"...As it stands, this is the fastest Android phone we've tested. According to our benchmarks, performance can sometimes be almost double that of phones like the Galaxy S III..."

pjsnyc said:
Thanks for the link. It just made my buying decision easier. Especially this part:
"...As it stands, this is the fastest Android phone we've tested. According to our benchmarks, performance can sometimes be almost double that of phones like the Galaxy S III..."
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I know right lol way to post a link to an overall positive review.

Cool!
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Whoever gets their tracking number first should post the date of expected delivery so the rest of us know ASAP! I feel like a kid at Christmas, but in all fairness I've grown tired of getting my Epic refurb'ed and it has become very unstable and constantly reboots itself.(Gets worse after every hard reset so no fixing it =/)

[Q]Will you switch from GS3 to GS4?

I'm just curious who will be switching from from the GS3, to the GS4? I just can't see where the minor improvements= spending more money. Besides I hear the GS3 will receive alot of the same software features that the GS4 will have.

joeyhdownsouth said:
I'm just curious who will be switching from from the GS3, to the GS4? I just can't see where the minor improvements= spending more money. Besides I hear the GS3 will receive alot of the same software features that the GS4 will have.
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You heard right, we will receive most of the features of the s4, no need to upgrade until gs5 is out :thumbup:

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You heard right, we will receive most of the features of the s4, no need to upgrade until gs5 is out :thumbup:
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This^
Plus, its really only small hardware upgrades to pay for a completely new phone

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I'm just curious who will be switching from from the GS3, to the GS4? I just can't see where the minor improvements= spending more money. Besides I hear the GS3 will receive alot of the same software features that the GS4 will have.
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Hate to say it but I don't use my S3 that much any more. Lol last thing I'm gonna do is shell out money for the S4 (iPhone talk) aka S3s. When my contract is up then I'll change to the S5.
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CNexus said:
This^
Plus, its really only small hardware upgrades to pay for a completely new phone
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The main thing they upgraded it camera Imo. But it's just as ****ty. Going from 8 megapixels to 13, that's idiotic.. Megapixels are just image size. Not quality what so ever. Ya to the average eye it looks good, but it's trash. In 5 years the stupid company's will be going around with 25 megapixel cameras built in.
Image quality is from the size of the camera lense and the physical quality and type of the lense. Taking a turd and making it billboard sized is still a turd.
Sorry about my stupid raging lol. Just stupid they are changing some software and increasing mega pixel size and some small hardware change and calling it a new phone.
Oh and if anyone wants an example of what I'm talking about, go take a picture of something that isn't up close (maybe something across the room), then go into gallery and look at the image. Fully zoomed out it looks darn near perfect, but go to its real size and it's garbage

Im most likely getting the Note3 or most likely the Note4. in the next year in a half

how is quad core and twice the camera a small upgrade... god people these days are so not happy with progress... altho the international version is way better as alwayss supposed to have a 8 core?
i remember when i had 222mhz computer 1 core that and not even a gig hd was 10 lbs toolol :good:
not to mention every galaxy and the g1 and mytouch im going to keep upgrading with them just cuz i couldnt stand it when i had the s2 and the s3 just looked way nicer
im just pissed theres still hardware buttons they need to ditch that **** and give us the option of the international set up but with lte theres no reason why we cant have that other than ****ing carriers here.and "hardware compat" which is bs said that bout the s3 also

I keep telling myself I dont need the S4....but i'm sure I will cave sooner than later. As long as the S3 isn't neglected like some of sprints devices tend to be at times to influence early upgrades, S3 may be just fine with me.
The main thing that ticks me off is when Samsung releases the next big thing RIGHT after the next big thing...if that makes any sense. I know they need to keep their profits up and stay competitive with apple, but they literally JUST released the galaxy S3 and Note 2. It just really ticks me off knowing that someone out there is going to get 3-4 times the performance and double the screen definition and vibrance for virtually the same price I paid for my galaxy s3.
Sprint needs to apply T Mobiles idea to their service. If someone wants to upgrade early just add 20-30 dollars onto their monthly bill until the device is paid off. Expensive? for some, but not that bad for a brand new galaxy S4.
I wouldn't even be thinking about the S4 if Samsung would of blessed the U.S. with the 1.4ghz quad core.....but they didn't. So basically i paid the same price as the international version for my U.S. version Galaxy S3 that has two less processors in it.
Ok, i'll stop complaining now. I love my S3, I just think these two year contracts can be easily replaced with something better. Sprint would more than likely gain more customers and customers would be able to upgrade at any time for 20 dollars a month. T Mobile is going to gain some stock over this, I really like their new direction.
If T-Mobile had decent service around Omaha, I probably would consider switching....but Sprint and Verizon run the show around here, T Mobile is not very settled in around here.

No need to switch for minor upgrades.. we getting all the same bells and whistles via software.. switching would make about as much sense as having a peeing section in the pool.
However, Maybe when GS5 Comes out.. or the Note 4 (the 10" version at the rate they are going) then it might be worth a swap.

Dreamlogix said:
how is quad core and twice the camera a small upgrade... god people these days are so not happy with progress... altho the international version is way better as alwayss supposed to have a 8 core?
i remember when i had 222mhz computer 1 core that and not even a gig hd was 10 lbs toolol :good:
not to mention every galaxy and the g1 and mytouch im going to keep upgrading with them just cuz i couldnt stand it when i had the s2 and the s3 just looked way nicer
im just pissed theres still hardware buttons they need to ditch that **** and give us the option of the international set up but with lte theres no reason why we cant have that other than ****ing carriers here.and "hardware compat" which is bs said that bout the s3 also
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The reason I consider it a small upgrade is that I've researched it some and all 4 cores would never be in use at the same time only 2 would, and as ReapersDeath said, other than that the only "major" change is the camera which i dont personally see as a huge step up or as justifying me having to pay for a new phone
And the reason it wont have 8 cores is because Exynos and LTE arent compatible...so if you're thinking of getting the international version just cuz it has more cores, then be prepared to miss out on LTE
This is what i've read anyway, there are some more detailed discussions going on over there if you wanna check it out

I will wait, to me it's not "the next big thing", it's just not worth shelling out more $. I'll wait and see what the note3 or s5 has to offer.
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I will wait, to me it's not "the next big thing", it's just not worth shelling out more $. I'll wait and see what the note3 or s5 has to offer.
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My thoughts exactly

CNexus said:
The reason I consider it a small upgrade is that I've researched it some and all 4 cores would never be in use at the same time only 2 would, and as ReapersDeath said, other than that the only "major" change is the camera which i dont personally see as a huge step up or as justifying me having to pay for a new phone
And the reason it wont have 8 cores is because Exynos and LTE arent compatible...so if you're thinking of getting the international version just cuz it has more cores, then be prepared to miss out on LTE
This is what i've read anyway, there are some more detailed discussions going on over there if you wanna check it out
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Not sure what the site was as I read it on pulse but the chip set does work with lte. It won't make it to the states due to supply and demand.
I really see no point in upgrading. They will have everything out for the s3 and once the s3 is no longer supported their will still be roms. Only way I will upgrade before the note 3 or s5 is if I have to replace my phone and they are out of the s3.
EDIT: found the article http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...cpu-supports-all-major-lte-networks-20130329/
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Poll: Reason we as people buy a new phone and whats the motive/selling point

Wanted to start a unusual Poll thread about
Why we buy the latest and greatest phones and whats the motive or reasoning behind it?
Not just about the galaxys or s4..even any device...
Whats become the selling point for you as a "INDIVIDUAL" in your case for instance?
Like many of us phone junkies admit we have had to have it the day it drops.. whats the biggest reason and is it a sickness.
Do our old phones really not do what a phones meant to do at the end of a day? just because a new one has taken its place?
Maybe its cause of the new look
Maybe it's due to the rumored batt life
Maybe its a new design
And maybe its just a habit
For me its about the always improving batt life of upcoming devices. ..
Old phones were plagued with batt life issues i believe now we are overcoming that.
Also for me and the s4 it wasnt the cam that sold me I felt the ir blaster was a very unique feature.
What's your reason?
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I'm a tech junkie so I love having the latest and greatest. I also recently became hooked to root and flashing roms/mods and the development on my previous phone (S3) slowed down a lot. So here I am lol
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lojak29 said:
Wanted to start a unusual Poll thread about
Why we buy the latest and greatest phones and whats the motive or reasoning behind it?
Not just about the galaxys or s4..even any device...
Whats become the selling point for you as a "INDIVIDUAL" in your case for instance?
Like many of us phone junkies admit we have had to have it the day it drops.. whats the biggest reason and is it a sickness.
Do our old phones really not do what a phones meant to do at the end of a day? just because a new one has taken its place?
Maybe its cause of the new look
Maybe it's due to the rumored batt life
Maybe its a new design
And maybe its just a habit
For me its about the always improving batt life of upcoming devices. ..
Old phones were plagued with batt life issues i believe now we are overcoming that.
Also for me and the s4 it wasnt the cam that sold me I felt the ir blaster was a very unique feature.
What's your reason?
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It's almost like a compulsion. I rarely impulse buy and I can take weeks to finally decide on my purchases. I read reviews, speculations, I memorize the specs of all my choices and compare them. The compulsion part comes in because once I get the idea in my head that I really want something I will find a way to get it; I'll make myself believe I need it... I actually almost hate when it comes time to buy a new toy because I put so much time into the pre-purchase. On the other hand, it's also a type of rush. As far as selling points go, it's usually something small and trivial that makes me decide which way to go. Buying my 1st droid I was torn between an LG Nitro and the GS2. I had my mind made up that I wanted the S2 and while in-store I played with both of them. I liked the LG's screen a little bit better and that was the one I bought. The whole reason I got the S4 is because around January I had decided I was going to buy the S3. I had already worked out a deal with a friend to buy his and everything; then I realized the S4's release was very near. In fact, the purchase of this device was the easiest one I've made in quite some time because I had already done the legwork and research on the S3, The hardest part was waiting for release... then deciding which carrier's version to buy, whether to switch carriers or buy outright, etc etc.

Its better to be addicted to new technology then crack. Haha really though it's a hobby for me. Something I enjoy. One can have the fastest and newest features. Plus I like to learn about new technology and development.
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My current phone, a Galaxy S 1, has super slow NAND, and that affects performance quite alot with newer apps being larger than they were 3 years ago.

I use my phone more than any other device I own. I haven't played my PS3 in months and I barely use my tablet. I chose to buy this device because I wanted to get rid of my Galaxy Nexus before it became obsolete. I work and purchasing something like this does not have an effect on my finances because I can afford my gadgets. I know some people just have to have the latest even if it they have to change their lifestyle in order to do so.
I love customizing my phone, but now that I have this device I don't feel the need to. I wish I had bought the Nexus 4 instead. They have a very active community that is all about helping each other out and they are very loyal to their brand. Seems like most of the people who I have seen in the T-Mobile section are teenagers.
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I'm buying a new phone when my old one breaks or becomes too old/slow/buggy for my needs. And I always buy the top of the line models just because I think they'll serve me longer. For example I don't really need a quad core cpu now, but in 2 years from now it might become a minimum requirement to run Google Maps.

lordcheeto03 said:
It's almost like a compulsion. I rarely impulse buy and I can take weeks to finally decide on my purchases. I read reviews, speculations, I memorize the specs of all my choices and compare them. The compulsion part comes in because once I get the idea in my head that I really want something I will find a way to get it; I'll make myself believe I need it... I actually almost hate when it comes time to buy a new toy because I put so much time into the pre-purchase. On the other hand, it's also a type of rush. As far as selling points go, it's usually something small and trivial that makes me decide which way to go. Buying my 1st droid I was torn between an LG Nitro and the GS2. I had my mind made up that I wanted the S2 and while in-store I played with both of them. I liked the LG's screen a little bit better and that was the one I bought. The whole reason I got the S4 is because around January I had decided I was going to buy the S3. I had already worked out a deal with a friend to buy his and everything; then I realized the S4's release was very near. In fact, the purchase of this device was the easiest one I've made in quite some time because I had already done the legwork and research on the S3, The hardest part was waiting for release... then deciding which carrier's version to buy, whether to switch carriers or buy outright, etc etc.
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Feel just like you man. I have had almost 40 different phones in the past few years. Any high end phone I have probably bought....drives the wife crazy. Funny thing is that I'm not an impulse shopper with anything else but phones. I can walk to the AT&T store right now and chances are I'm walking out with something new.....so I try to avoid them lol
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I bought it for the prompt and timely updates from Samsung and T-Mobile.

I'm still in therapy trying to figure out what the cause of this 'have to buy new device sickness' is. I'll post back in a couple of years when I get off the couch
But seriously, I enjoy having a newer version of my current device because it's something new, even if the changes are subtle. But I've always gotten the newer version usually months later, mostly due to not being eligible for a subsidized device under contract for 22 months, for example, with Sprint. But with T-Mobile, I'll be able to get the newer device when available due to their 'No Contract' option with annual eligibility for a new device, and twice a year eligibility for newer devices with the 'Jump' program, although newer versions of the same device, S2-S3 and S3-S4 for example, drop once a year. My last few devices have been Samsung upgrades. But I can change manufactures if the model warrants it, and then it would be possible to upgrade maybe twice a year. But Samsung Galaxy series have been berry, berry good to me
With the above being said, you'll NEVER see me waiting on a line outside the store waiting to get a new device the day it comes out, and obviously you won't see me in a tent overnight or for days on end waiting to be one of the first to get a new device. Now that's a Sickness, imho :silly:
I'll wait a few days or weeks until the device is available without the lines, or when it's back in stock.
Now back to the 'couch' already in session lol!

I bought the phone because I am a huge fan of the newest technology. I skipped on the one simply because the button layout, HTC sense, and the screen being a tiny bit smaller. Having the latest technology intrigues me (and poor impulse control lol) to buy these new gadgets.
As of now I'm really only interested in Samsung and Nexus devices unless something else over shadows those. There's no real good reason for upgrading every time a new phone is available for me. A phone from a year or two ago would suffice but I just have to have the latest and greatest. Its definitely an American mentality.
It's easier to click "thanks" than type it.

I'm still using my Galaxy S1 and after 2.5 years the battery is almost gone.
The phone has become really slow and hangs a lot.
Thus, I just ordered a new S4

I had a LG G2X for over 2 years. Always hated the camera and screen size, but when it first came out it was good. Got slower and slower over the months. Got to the point where if I downloaded an app over 30mb it wouldnt run on the phone so I gave up on it. Looked up all kind of reviews of the S4 for about 2 months before I dished out the cash for it.
The things that one me over were:
Camera
IR Blaster
Performance specs
& Support I THOUGHT it was coming with.

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I bought it for the prompt and timely updates from Samsung and T-Mobile.
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Hahaha. Then you bought it for the wrong reasons. Lol

current phone g2x POS , dead pixel (so line on the screen), intermittent Bluetooth cut out when backlit buttons light up or go out. and general nvidia/lg crappy build support for drivers.
going to s4 on the 16th as soon am my contract is over. root remove bloat and be happy.
i replace a phone when it no longer dose what i need it to do. g2x issues gps / Bluetooth , forced to use stock roms if you want to be able to make calls and having working Bluetooth if you made the mistake of updating the base band to get gps working.....been waiting for my contract to be done for the last 2 months i can almost see the light at the end of the tunnel 8 more days and i can retire the g2x to become a backup mp3 alarm clock and gps nav device...

For me its a hobby to get new phones. I havent use any phone for more than 6 months.
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I LOVE tinkering and twiddling with my devices. I generally keep a phone over a year or until a badly thought out mod kills it, but last phone had next to no development. I kinda splurged on this one. It's my first very high end one and I LOVE it. Made me realize that almost all the mods I've been doing on various phones were to get them closer to the level this one is.

wanna hear a story i work at a cellphone retail store my boss love iphones
the first time i got a phone was a blackberry slow as **** then i went to sprint and got 2 option the 4s or the galaxy s2
i went with the s2 of course i hate iphones
since then i learn about rooting,flashing etc
xda has the best customer service lol
since then i had the s2,s3,note 2 and now the note 3
why i buy samsung phone easy to customize root,removal battery and sd card
im a music junkie and no other phone has what Samsung phones offer,
i play with all new device since i work in a cellphone retail but in the end samsung for me
sorry for my bad english and bad grammar

Well I have always purchased Android phones, and I picked up the Galaxy S4 after my Galaxy Nexus bit the dust.. switched to T-Mobile to get the unlimited data and I've been incredibly happy with them so far

I like to have the it phone so people admire it, and ask me to customize theirs.
To make $ rooting and flashing it has to be a phone a lot of people have.
For me it's been g1, g2, Hercules, s3, s4. Samsung will likely have the next one: s5
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