Hello, I am not a developer and I am just looking for an answer to my question.
I know that there was released a google-edition of the S4 some time ago, which has the same HMDI-out (MHL2.0) as the Note 2 has. From what I have read about the google play-edition of the S4 you are still able to mirror your screen to the TV with the HDMI-out, which you are unable to do on the Note II if you use AOSP-roms. Since the Google Play Edition-phones are supposed to be open source just like google, I thought maybe the MHL2.0 driver was possible to port to other AOSP-roms on phones that uses the same MHL2.0-port as the S4... Which is the same Note II use!
This got me thinking and leads to my question:
(tl;dr)
Is there a way to use or port the HDMI-out driver from the S4 Google Play-edition and onto the Galaxy Note II's AOSP-Roms?
Please correct me if I've understood something wrong. I would be happy to get a proper answer.
(Currently using Paranoid Android-rom on Note II, and the only big flaw about this and every other AOSP-rom for the Note II is the lack of HDMI-out and Miracast.)
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Obviously Samsung gave Google the drivers. The *only* way we will ever see HDMI/MHL working on a non Samsung rom is one of three ways:
1) Someone with a sword of +10 to Autism Intensifies is able to reverse engineer every single protocol related to the signal coming out of the micro-USB port, and I am talking about someone with the ability to touch their tongue to the actual bared wires of a working MHL cable and from the taste tell you whether the movie being played is using AAC or 5.1 sound kinda thing. If there are a precious handful of clues in HOW various apps access and control this system, it is *possible* that a driver could be cobbled together to emulate the real thing. Will this happen? Probably not, there simply isn't enough interest.
2) A grass roots campaign is organized to beg, plead, threaten, abduct children of Samsung CEO's, do whatever it takes to get them to release the code for the drivers. This is unlikely but Samsung has begrudgingly helped with things like this before. Of course, we are also talking about a company that cheerfully has started putting e-fuses into their bootloader tripwires, so... Don't count on it.
3) A specialized unit of combined Ninjas and Belarus mercs storms the Samsung heaquarters and steals the source code for the drivers. There could be hostage situations, some mild torture to extract the pass-key to the RSA 32768 bit encrypted data center, military intervention and possibly airstrikes from American interests, North Korean EMP attacks when they get caught up in it... Still - doable.
Your other option is to simply keep a nicely fleshed out Touchwiz based rom nandroided away and just reload that for when you want to use your HDMI out the odd time.
I like #3 lol
But yeah... best to use a sammy based rom if you want that feature (can look here for them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Apatc-TEE7sNdHVUbXBkOHI2X1FhTlBRb1BmTUdBQmc&output=html)
Done with it.
HTC is also guilty of this. My Sensation also has MHL out, but it won't work on AOSP (which frankly infuriates me). http://piloty.eu/samsung.html
Reflashing Touchwiz-based rom every time.. this would be a nightmare. I... I can't. No. Whole pile of nope.
Things like that make me sick of Samsung. I had pleasure of playing with Note 3 for few days, and now I'm done. My next device will be any open phone.
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http://www.talkandroid.com/8164-galaxy-s-to-have-micr-usb-to-hdmi-output/
anyone hear more about this??
and just found this saying the american Galaxy S versions will support it
http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-does-microusb-to-hdmi
that would include captivate model
more reading.. (below) samsung states its possible after an update. other reading says it may sacrifice ability to use docking station.
samsung has abandond update idea and pulled cables from release.
CAN WE PULL IT OFF??
Trusselo said:
http://www.talkandroid.com/8164-galaxy-s-to-have-micr-usb-to-hdmi-output/
anyone hear more about this??
and just found this saying the american Galaxy S versions will support it
http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-does-microusb-to-hdmi
that would include captivate model
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This is old news. I don't think anyone was ever able to get it to work. There was also issues with the cable itself.
yeah found that after too. another abandoned promise from samsung.
was going to be available after software update. cable was even posted on their site coming soon. now removed. now samsung doubts they will do 2.3, HIGHLY doubt they would ever update the HDMI capabilities.
yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
Dani897 said:
yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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The specs for Infuse does not have HDMI out. Samsung has gone the route of DLNA like our current Captivate using AllShare.
Dani897 said:
yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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Samsung has never been afraid of devaluing their devices. I worked for at&t until March of 2010, and I can say honestly that I have seen some crazy samsung stunts.
Example of Gimping one model to not devalue another:
BlackBerry Bold 9000 - 3G, WIFI.
BlackBerry Curve 8900 - EDGE, WIFI.
Why is the 8900 3G on every carrier that supports it EXCEPT at&t? Because they didn't want to devalue the Bold 9000. On other carriers, the 8900 was the top-end 3G BlackBerry, but not on at&t.
Example of Samsung not giving a damn:
Samsung Eternity. Great feature phone, pretty decent touch screen, overall good device. I owned two, personally. My youngest sister and her then-boyfriend both owned one each.
Samsung Propel. Another great feature phone, with a slide-out QWERTY. Bought them for my mother, my other sister, my brother-in-law. None of them had complaints.
Shortly after:
Samsung Solstice, Samsung Mythic... both replaced the Eternity.
Samsung Flight, a Propel with a touch-screen. (Replaced my mother's Propel with the Flight though... trying to get her into touch-screen first, then transition her to android!)
Samsung didn't care how heavily stocked we were on the Propel, the Eternity and the Impression. They dropped those new phones like it was no big deal.
So, I wouldn't count on dual-core. Samsung likes to generate as much buzz early on as possible to get people talking about their new phones... hardware is -always- secondary to them. The thing they hold back until just before release is the UI. The Mythic is a great example... almost the exact same specs as the Eternity, but the UI is what they held back to just before release and what was it? Some god-awful slow iPhone knock-off UI.
They LOVE the horizontal scrolling in the 'app drawer'. They did it with the Mythic, then with TouchWiz. Bleh.
So I am about to start my install in a 08 Chrysler Aspen. I have everything I need to swap the stock radio for a Nexus 7, I have been messing around with all the software and hardware for a week or so and think that most issues are worked out. I am running CM12 nightlies just because I am a bleeding edge type of guy and I like Cyangoenmod's implementation of extra features. They run on the ElementalX Kernel so that OTG charging and deep sleep are possible. Now the fun part that I have not seen anyone else do, that I can find anyway. I have two outdated, barely working, please replace me 7" no name linked DVD players in the headrests. Honestly, the market for those is utterly pitiful and overpriced, full of hardware that is practically obsolete, and runs on proprietary software. No thank you. Luckily I have two Nexus 7's, soon to be three.
I am software engineering student, so I have skills in that department, and I dabble in all things electronic. I can usually find a way to make anything work. So far on first thought I have successfully set up Nexus2 to wake from deep sleep when power connects, then via Tasker open Allcast Receiver. Which I can then cast media from Nexus1 to be viewed on Nexus2, then to Nexus3 via Koush's Mirror Beta. The great thing about Allcast and Allcast Receiver is that only a WiFi connection is needed, no need to have internet access. This setup works better than I expected, with very minimal lag on the Mirror( I tested this using my Gs3 as the third device). Ultimately I would like to pass video through hardware instead of software. Herein lies my question. I can accept a video stream, but I have been unable to find any examples of sending media to essentially a second monitor through hardware alone. I am sure there is a way through SSH, similar to this, but I would like 2 and 3 to be able to be used independently as I am going to make them easily removable. For example if my kids want to play a game , they can just take it out and it is back to normal tablet form.
If there is nothing available, the casting/mirroring route will suffice for the time being. I would just like something a little less vulnerable. Casting/Mirroring are relatively new and there are occasional crashes. Anyone who has young children knows that patience is not a word in their vocabulary. Plug and play, no crashes is my optimal goal.
Sorry for the essay, I hope that someone can help. I will post pictures of the install process here, and I'll start a new thread for a complete DIY.
One more thing, has anyone seen headrests made specifically to mount a Nexus 7? I can modify my current ones, but a prefabbed like this for iPad mini would be ideal.
I can't advise on the mirroring of the screens, but mounting the nexus in the headrests is something I can help with. Head over to my website www.rtafabrication.com
If your fabrication is up to scratch you could get a few Dash Panels and mount them yourself or I could do the fabrication for you. Location doesn't matter as I ship worldwide.
Just thought it might be something you're looking for.
Update 20161024: My apologies! I have updated the OP with links that do not require decryption keys.
So, I am one of the poor souls that waited, impatiently, for the Note 7's release. Reading all of the rumors and leaks along the way, that flagship went from the Note 6 with dual cameras and the ability to cook you breakfast to the Note 7 with one camera and if you had the battery issue, could possibly cook your pants.
Still, I owned the first and second iteration. Even after Samsung announced they were done, I still had hope. The beautiful curve of the screen (less prone to accidental touches), the waterproof S-Pen with it's fine tip, the massive, over saturated screen that I have come to love about Samsung and the knowledge that I had the phone that I wanted, without settling.
Alas, I recently turned in my Note 7. I considered the Pixel XL but the ship date has said 6-8 weeks for approximately 6-8 weeks. I looked at the LG V20 the first to use band 66... Although I don't know how good, reliable or available that is. But 1. It's LG and 2. Unreleased, untested and unloaded with Samsung Pay (which is something I love) Quick side note, every time I have used SP for the first time with a different phone during this whole process, I have been gifted the $10 initial purchase gift card, I'm at $50 in first time uses as of now. I ordered the Note 5 but could not handle the lack of external memory and somehow the thought of it not being ip68 bothered me...
Now I'm here with the S7 Edge again. Trying to cope with my loss. In an effort to make things a little better I have searched around. Because I use SP, I don't root anymore (well played Samsung) but I have found some APKs that help, even just a little...
Samsung Notes, the new and improved note-taking suit introduced on the Note 7 can be found below. I find it stupid to write with my finger but it gives me access to the things I wrote when I was happy, before the tragedy:
https://mega.nz/#!hkxxVARS!vHO2P4RPVTM2TWLPU0fA4WM1hj-F8ClcmRYXTD59Crg
Galaxy Labs adds the option to your Advanced Features menu and allows you to test some of Samsung's latest and greatest ideas:
https://mega.nz/#!IxYVlDQb!cyosZqRIWm-3RqkgOp0XKLV-p5PVpvZVA3lvJyD6yfc
Install both as a normal APK.
*Just to clarify, I didn't create these APKs, I found them*
If anyone had found any other coping mechanisms, please share. We have to stick together and hope that the Note series won't suffer the same fiery fate as it's latest addition.
samatagana said:
So, I am one of the poor souls that waited, impatiently, for the Note 7's release. Reading all of the rumors and leaks along the way, that flagship went from the Note 6 with dual cameras and the ability to cook you breakfast to the Note 7 with one camera and if you had the battery issue, could possibly cook your pants.
Still, I owned the first and second iteration. Even after Samsung announced they were done, I still had hope. The beautiful curve of the screen (less prone to accidental touches), the waterproof S-Pen with it's fine tip, the massive, over saturated screen that I have come to love about Samsung and the knowledge that I had the phone that I wanted, without settling.
Alas, I recently turned in my Note 7. I considered the Pixel XL but the ship date has said 6-8 weeks for approximately 6-8 weeks. I looked at the LG V20 the first to use band 66... Although I don't know how good, reliable or available that is. But 1. It's LG and 2. Unreleased, untested and unloaded with Samsung Pay (which is something I love) Quick side note, every time I have used SP for the first time with a different phone during this whole process, I have been gifted the $10 initial purchase gift card, I'm at $50 in first time uses as of now. I ordered the Note 5 but could not handle the lack of external memory and somehow the thought of it not being ip68 bothered me...
Now I'm here with the S7 Edge again. Trying to cope with my loss. In an effort to make things a little better I have searched around. Because I use SP, I don't root anymore (well played Samsung) but I have found some APKs that help, even just a little...
Samsung Notes, the new and improved note-taking suit introduced on the Note 7 can be found below. I find it stupid to write with my finger but it gives me access to the things I wrote when I was happy, before the tragedy:
https://mega.nz/#!IxYVlDQb
Galaxy Labs adds the option to your Advanced Features menu and allows you to test some of Samsung's latest and greatest ideas:
https://mega.nz/#!hkxxVARS
Install both as a normal APK.
*Just to clarify, I didn't create these APKs, I found them*
If anyone had found any other coping mechanisms, please share. We have to stick together and hope that the Note series won't suffer the same fiery fate as it's latest addition.
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Both links are asking for decryption key. [emoji54]
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samatagana said:
So, I am one of the poor souls that waited, impatiently, for the Note 7's release. Reading all of the rumors and leaks along the way, that flagship went from the Note 6 with dual cameras and the ability to cook you breakfast to the Note 7 with one camera and if you had the battery issue, could possibly cook your pants.
Still, I owned the first and second iteration. Even after Samsung announced they were done, I still had hope. The beautiful curve of the screen (less prone to accidental touches), the waterproof S-Pen with it's fine tip, the massive, over saturated screen that I have come to love about Samsung and the knowledge that I had the phone that I wanted, without settling.
Alas, I recently turned in my Note 7. I considered the Pixel XL but the ship date has said 6-8 weeks for approximately 6-8 weeks. I looked at the LG V20 the first to use band 66... Although I don't know how good, reliable or available that is. But 1. It's LG and 2. Unreleased, untested and unloaded with Samsung Pay (which is something I love) Quick side note, every time I have used SP for the first time with a different phone during this whole process, I have been gifted the $10 initial purchase gift card, I'm at $50 in first time uses as of now. I ordered the Note 5 but could not handle the lack of external memory and somehow the thought of it not being ip68 bothered me...
Now I'm here with the S7 Edge again. Trying to cope with my loss. In an effort to make things a little better I have searched around. Because I use SP, I don't root anymore (well played Samsung) but I have found some APKs that help, even just a little...
Samsung Notes, the new and improved note-taking suit introduced on the Note 7 can be found below. I find it stupid to write with my finger but it gives me access to the things I wrote when I was happy, before the tragedy:
https://mega.nz/#!IxYVlDQb
Galaxy Labs adds the option to your Advanced Features menu and allows you to test some of Samsung's latest and greatest ideas:
https://mega.nz/#!hkxxVARS
Install both as a normal APK.
*Just to clarify, I didn't create these APKs, I found them*
If anyone had found any other coping mechanisms, please share. We have to stick together and hope that the Note series won't suffer the same fiery fate as it's latest addition.
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Yeah decryption key is being requested
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parusia said:
Both links are asking for decryption key. [emoji54]
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Sorry about that, links updated and should be working
flak0 said:
Yeah decryption key is being requested
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Sorry, links are updated
May I ask where you "found" these apk's?
I won't be rooting either because of SP and frankly there really isn't a need to root.
Found this thread with some N7 feature downloads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/themes-apps/note-ux-ported-apps-project-grace-n7-t3399076
dkb218 said:
May I ask where you "found" these apk's?
I won't be rooting either because of SP and frankly there really isn't a need to root.
Found this thread with some N7 feature downloads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/themes-apps/note-ux-ported-apps-project-grace-n7-t3399076
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The Samsung Notes I "found" among the APKs I extracted before I turned my Note 7 in. The Galaxy Labs I "found" on my Mega from before I got my first Note 7 and don't remember, hence the ambiguous "found".
samatagana said:
Update 20161024: My apologies! I have updated the OP with links that do not require decryption keys.
So, I am one of the poor souls that waited, impatiently, for the Note 7's release. Reading all of the rumors and leaks along the way, that flagship went from the Note 6 with dual cameras and the ability to cook you breakfast to the Note 7 with one camera and if you had the battery issue, could possibly cook your pants.
Still, I owned the first and second iteration. Even after Samsung announced they were done, I still had hope. The beautiful curve of the screen (less prone to accidental touches), the waterproof S-Pen with it's fine tip, the massive, over saturated screen that I have come to love about Samsung and the knowledge that I had the phone that I wanted, without settling.
Alas, I recently turned in my Note 7. I considered the Pixel XL but the ship date has said 6-8 weeks for approximately 6-8 weeks. I looked at the LG V20 the first to use band 66... Although I don't know how good, reliable or available that is. But 1. It's LG and 2. Unreleased, untested and unloaded with Samsung Pay (which is something I love) Quick side note, every time I have used SP for the first time with a different phone during this whole process, I have been gifted the $10 initial purchase gift card, I'm at $50 in first time uses as of now. I ordered the Note 5 but could not handle the lack of external memory and somehow the thought of it not being ip68 bothered me...
Now I'm here with the S7 Edge again. Trying to cope with my loss. In an effort to make things a little better I have searched around. Because I use SP, I don't root anymore (well played Samsung) but I have found some APKs that help, even just a little...
Samsung Notes, the new and improved note-taking suit introduced on the Note 7 can be found below. I find it stupid to write with my finger but it gives me access to the things I wrote when I was happy, before the tragedy:
https://mega.nz/#!hkxxVARS!vHO2P4RPVTM2TWLPU0fA4WM1hj-F8ClcmRYXTD59Crg
Galaxy Labs adds the option to your Advanced Features menu and allows you to test some of Samsung's latest and greatest ideas:
https://mega.nz/#!IxYVlDQb!cyosZqRIWm-3RqkgOp0XKLV-p5PVpvZVA3lvJyD6yfc
Install both as a normal APK.
*Just to clarify, I didn't create these APKs, I found them*
If anyone had found any other coping mechanisms, please share. We have to stick together and hope that the Note series won't suffer the same fiery fate as it's latest addition.
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Have you found a way to draw on screen shots, after you take them.... Similar to screen write on the Note 7....that's the thing i am going to miss the most.
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PhilPan said:
Have you found a way to draw on screen shots, after you take them.... Similar to screen write on the Note 7....that's the thing i am going to miss the most.
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While it's a few more steps you can still draw on screenshots. After you take the screenshot open it with Gallery then click the edit icon the bottom, then click the drawing icon.
PhilPan said:
Have you found a way to draw on screen shots, after you take them.... Similar to screen write on the Note 7....that's the thing i am going to miss the most.
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Like the post above mine says, it's a couple more steps but here's a shortcut on his method...
The notification that pops up when you take a screen shot has "edit" as an option... Select that, then "Photo Editor" and at the bottom "draw" is an option.
I feel you on that though. And it's just not the same without the pen
I am pretty cheap, but when I buy something, It's among the best in its class. I had a Note 2 that I was plenty happy with, until it died. I didn't know how to repair phones and replace main boards, so I had to buy a new phone. I got an S5 in 2014. Really awesome phone, and even today, it's pretty damn good. However, I have wanted a new Note for a while, and I really like what the Note 10 is probably going to be. So yeah, I'll pull the trigger on the most loaded 5g capability Note 10 Samsung will sell in the USA. But I will work hard to make it the last pbone I buy for a very very long time. Hardware repairs will be east since I'll buy "parts only" phones to repair mine once it's off-warranty. So my next phone after the note 10 will be the Galaxy Fold 17, as in a folding cellphone that flips out to daylight readable 17" display. Until then, I can't think of a good reason to upgrade, considering the cost of a new high-end phone these days. Frankly, phones today are more powerful than I can ever imagine using on such a small display. The software is gonna be the issue. So my plan is to let Lineage developers build awesome ROMs for the Note 10 and when it looks like support is ending there, I'll pick up the torch. But before then, I gotta learn how to build Lineage for it, and especially how to update its security profiles. I'm sure that eventually there will be a version of Android that won't run satisfactorily on the Note 10, and that is when I'll need to be able to support my own phone to keep it secure.
I have modified code on Linux apps, and compiled my own kernels in the past, so I know the basics, but anything Android specific is lacking.
So, what do I need to learn and where do I start to learn how to support my note 10 when all the other reasonable users have moved on and the Note 10 is all but forgotten?
Thanks
Keith
WisdomWarlord said:
I am pretty cheap, but when I buy something, It's among the best in its class............
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I don't have any of the Galaxy Note devices myself but, your best bet is to take a look at the following areas of the forum that's specific to the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 devices.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014
Good Luck!
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You misunderstood me. I'm talking about the upcoming Note 10 phone.
WisdomWarlord said:
You misunderstood me. I'm talking about the upcoming Note 10 phone.
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I don't build or maintain ROMs myself. But i flash many different devices. What i learned: buy a second device of the exactly same type. Used S5 are really cheap nowadays. You can even get one with a broken screen. Start building wit the official sources and then fork them and try some modifications.
So I've had a z fold 3 since release, when it first come out I read about rooting and it can mess up the Camera, I belive that's been addressed? however one of the biggest flaws with this phone is not bring able to create YouTube shorts!
As a content creator I need access to audio library via the YouTube app but foldong phones aren't supported for creating them.
If I decided to root, Is it possible to trick Android into thinking I have a different phone, to allow shorts to work? Or does it not work like this?
Just really need YouTube shorts to work otherwise might have to get rid of the phone. I imagine no1s figured out any work around to get it working legitimately yet, you can view shorts but not edit / upload them whilst using the audio library etc.
The short answer is no. The hardware will tell any software the model.
dirtybudha said:
The short answer is no. The hardware will tell any software the model.
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Okay thanks shame.
Really need to be able to create shorts, so might actually need to leave.
US samsung offering 1k trade in atm which is great for a s22 ultra.
Yet uk offering 600, not even close, so I'll wait.
Would love the fold 4, but if it doesn't work on the 3, it won't work on the 4 either lol
Do you mean, you can't install the Youtube Shorts App or does the app not support all functions as on non foldables phones?