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Hi all,
Anyone can confirm that Desire has a rSAP (remote Sim access)?
Some people are saying it doesn't work with their Nav, some say it is working.
Any one got it hooked up to their Vw/Audi/Skoda RNS Nav?
Looking to change from my TouchHD.
Cheers,
Android does not support the SAP/rSAP protocol. It may be that some people have it working on cars that use the HFP or HSP profiles.
Thanks mate, not good at all!!!
A little up now the phone's live...
Does it support rsap? is there any way to push contacts etc...?
I got an audi with a built in Bluetooth system, pairing ok, phone etc ok, but no possibilities with my desire to have rsap working
swissman said:
A little up now the phone's live...
Does it support rsap? is there any way to push contacts etc...?
I got an audi with a built in Bluetooth system, pairing ok, phone etc ok, but no possibilities with my desire to have rsap working
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I also have the Audi built in BT system, and it works fine except that from what I've read about rSAP, I don't think it's working in that mode with the Audi.
The only difference (problem) I've been facing with my HTC phones vs. Nokia e71 is that the phone ring tone is not pushed to the car speakers when receiving a call. I was hoping it would work with the Desire as the default Audi BT ringtone is stupidly annoying.
Sorry off topic again, but I was wondering, are Bluetooth profiles generally defined by hardware or software? Or some by this, some by that?
Maybe you could check if it has another setting to retrieve data from the phone.
From what i know the new modules used in audi/vw/skoda are Novero modules (part of the nokia business) which only supports rsap.
The older modules are from harman/Becker and do support al the possible connectiontypes.
You can check which type you have under the passengers frontseat, the modules are build in under the seat, not in the radio.
If you have a Novero, tough luck. But you can always check on the local car junkyard if you can find an old car which does have a harman/becker, and build that one in
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I also have the Audi built in BT system, and it works fine except that from what I've read about rSAP, I don't think it's working in that mode with the Audi.
The only difference (problem) I've been facing with my HTC phones vs. Nokia e71 is that the phone ring tone is not pushed to the car speakers when receiving a call. I was hoping it would work with the Desire as the default Audi BT ringtone is stupidly annoying.
Sorry off topic again, but I was wondering, are Bluetooth profiles generally defined by hardware or software? Or some by this, some by that?
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Just wanted to add to eliminate any confusion. I can dial contacts saved on the phone and directly search for them on the car screen. But what I understood is that rSAP profile connects to the SIM card and fully replaces the phone, where it goes into some kind of sleep mode!
salahag said:
Just wanted to add to eliminate any confusion. I can dial contacts saved on the phone and directly search for them on the car screen. But what I understood is that rSAP profile connects to the SIM card and fully replaces the phone, where it goes into some kind of sleep mode!
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Exactly... you can even read/send sms directly through the display and through your car multimedia system.
Ford
Just a little extra info, Desire now works with the Ford Convers+ system but ONLY on Android 2.1 Update1 (the stock Android 2.1 didn't work).
Just thought that may be why there's mixed reports of working/not working?
Tirinoarim said:
Just a little extra info, Desire now works with the Ford Convers+ system but ONLY on Android 2.1 Update1 (the stock Android 2.1 didn't work).
Just thought that may be why there's mixed reports of working/not working?
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I got the stock Android and it's showing Android 2.1 update 1.... but not working ;-)
Hmm - well I'm trying to use my HTC Desire with a 2010 Audi A3 with BT and not having any luck so far. Although it paired and transferred the phonebook (took quite a few minutes with a couple of hundred contacts), it's now being really flaky and sometimes just refusing to connect at all. I tried un-pairing/re-pairing but to no avail. It just seems to work sometimes for a bit then stop again. By comparison pairing my Desire with a Jabra BT headset worked fine.
Anyone else having these problems? Anyone know of any updates for the Audi software? (if not I suppose I'll just need to wait for Froyo and hope that it fixes things )
my desire works well with my VW golf.
phone book, calls (dialing and receiving) and status dispay working. not working is SMS
Hey Folks,
there is room for some BT "education", because most people don't know the difference between rSAP and Handsfree.
Handsfree is working like a BT headset - most disadvantage - you are using the phoneunit of your mobile.
rSAP is using BT protocoll to get only the SIM card of your mobile and work together with the phoneunit of your car.
For Audi you can see on which mode your are conntected at the MMI-Display => "SIM card icon" stands for rSAP while "Mobilephone icon" represents handsfree mode.
no rSAP
I could be wrong, but I was of the impression that Nokia had patented the RSAP protocol, so you're not going to see it on non-Nokia phones. Irritating, really. Some car users have retrofitted their handsfree kits with a module that uses handsfree profile with some success but it's not going to use the car antennae etc in this case.
rSAP is a "STANDARD" for bluetooth protocoll in general.
Nokia was one of the first, thatswhy the Nokia unit has some "problems" in early releases....
Well I picked up my Skoda Superb last week, dealer told me they were fitting the new GSM 3 units that had just recently changed, not that it meant much to me.
Anyways it did work fine first couple days then started playing up with not connecting, I went into the options because I found it was connecting to media, but not phone, so I disabled the media option on the phone for the bluetooth connections and its been fine ever since.
Desire running Modaco R4, R5 & R6 now also ok.
Also saw a file posted on there that is meant to fix the iffy bluetooth connection problems, its been confirmed as working but I've not tried it as I've not had any more problems with it.
Will take a look though see if its connecting with a phone or sim card, I had noticed the signal always seemed really good even if the phone was berried in the car somewhere so maybe the rSAP explains it.
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Also saw a file posted on there that is meant to fix the iffy bluetooth connection problems, its been confirmed as working but I've not tried it as I've not had any more problems with it.
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Do you have a link to the thread that includes this file by any chance?
Do not mix up android 2.1 and 2.2.
AFAIK the modaco roms are froyo which should have a better bluetooth stack than eclair.
Well some good news! The FroYo/2.2 update on the Desire seemed to do the trick for me and I now seem to be able to get a stable BT connection with my A3. Phonebook transfer working fine too and it's reacquiring the connection when getting back into the car.
Any hope for Android 2.1?
Alanjrobertson: did you say you got your HTC Desire Android v2.1 phone working with your Audi, albeit a bit flaky? I cant get my HTC Desire Android v2.1 phone working with my VW EOS working at all.
What was the process you followed? The process I went through was to turn on phone’s bluetooth and make my phone discoverable. I then initiated a search from the car. It found my phone and displayed the correct name. However, when I chose the “connect” option on the car, it gave the error message: "mobile telephone phone is not compatible" on the car’s MFD.
Is this what you did? Is there a better way of connecting?
The car’s entertainment system is RNS510. I’m not sure if this is associated with Bluetooth or not.
My previous phone (Nokia 5800) worked OK, but my Desire doesn’t.
I am hoping that the Android v2.2 upgrade will fix my problems, but I’m still waiting for the update from Orange. It could take a while by the sounds of things.
I contacted HTC and they told me “The HTC Desire does not have the remote sim access profile. we currently have no plans to update the Bluetooth profiles on the device.” This makes me worried that when I eventually do get the Android v2.2 upgrade it will not work.
Any ideas other than waiting for the Android v2.2 upgrade?
Just had the new kenwood deck installed... Should do almost anything. I have my incredible paired up and calls are clear. Problem is A2DP audio streaming. Does not work. No A2DP device is found. Yes, the manual gives directions to play streamed audio once bt is synced. Well, its synced, got my phone book on there, and calls are being made.
Any thoughts or ideas to get streaming audio?
I don't have any help to offer, but I am experiencing the same problem with my Pioneer FH-P8000BT. Pairs for phone calls with no issue and everything is clear, but the radio does not even "see" the device as being available for A2DP.
I previously paired a few different HTC phones (all running Windows Mobile) with this radio with no issues. I'm hoping it's a simple fix, but I can't find a single thing in the settings that I haven't played with to try and get it to work.
I have an Alpine HU with an Alpine KCE-400BT bluetooth add on. My streaming audio is working, although I don't get any song/artist info on screen. I do have an issue where the phone doesn't sync up all the time. It syncs up great in the morning. If I stop for gas or something (turn off the car briefly) and get back in, then the radio won't see the phone until a call comes in or is started from the phone (or I toggle BT on/off).
You might check with Pioneer on any firmware udpates.
My incredible works great with my Ford sync system. It always connects, calls are loud and crisp, and streaming bt audio works great. I use it to listen to Pandora all the time.
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I have an Alpine HU with an Alpine KCE-400BT bluetooth add on. My streaming audio is working, although I don't get any song/artist info on screen. I do have an issue where the phone doesn't sync up all the time. It syncs up great in the morning. If I stop for gas or something (turn off the car briefly) and get back in, then the radio won't see the phone until a call comes in or is started from the phone (or I toggle BT on/off).
You might check with Pioneer on any firmware udpates.
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I have seen other people post issues with having bluetooth on the phone enabled before the car is on. If you turn the car on first and then the phone's bluetooth they said it worked fine.
I have Kenwood HU and my phone won't pair with it. my Blackberry Paired with it fine, and even did A2DP, and worked awesome...now......nothing.
Been looking for some answers as to why, but after calling Kenwood they said it's a software update that is missing.
however, seeing as some people are getting it working fine....I am suspecious.
Kenwood 4160 working, actually better
My 4160 and serveral WM units worked, but the A2DP always had to be turned on by going into the menu every single time I wanted to listen to anything from the phone, but the Incredible does it by itself every time perfectly.
I have a Pioneer AVIC N4 and the audio for both calls and music works just fine out of the box.
I have the kiv-bt900 also, and it is my understanding that it does not have A2DP. I believe the A2Dp in the manual is referring to the KIV-700 with the add on bt module.
From page 67 (of the downloaded manual from Kenwood)
KIV-BT900
Supported Bluetooth Profiles:
Version: Bluetooth Standard Ver. 2.0
Profile: HFP (Hands Free Profile)
OPP: (Object Push Profile)
PCAP (Phone Book Access Profile
SYNC (Synchronization Profile)
I thought it had it too when i bought it. Maybe a future update will enable it though??
What does A2DP mean please?
it stands for Advanced Audio Distribution Profile. In simple terms, it's stereo audio transferred from one device to another via bluetooth. Example: Music from a phone/mp3 player to stereo bluetooth headphones, head units etc..
Thank you.
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I have the kiv-bt900 also, and it is my understanding that it does not have A2DP. I believe the A2Dp in the manual is referring to the KIV-700 with the add on bt module.
From page 67 (of the downloaded manual from Kenwood)
KIV-BT900
Supported Bluetooth Profiles:
Version: Bluetooth Standard Ver. 2.0
Profile: HFP (Hands Free Profile)
OPP: (Object Push Profile)
PCAP (Phone Book Access Profile
SYNC (Synchronization Profile)
I thought it had it too when i bought it. Maybe a future update will enable it though??
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Well damn. The deck was sold to me from car toys (local vendor) under the pretense that it would do zune (works great) and A2DP...
Usb works great too... I was thinking of formatting a laptop drive to the mac file system (hfs) and hooking it up to the usb port to get a200GB drive of mp3 and video since it supports ipods. (works on xbx360, why not here?)
OK so a small fix, but not the end result.
with my Kenwood head unit I can make it work as long as I don't let it download the phonebook. and that is no problem since the phone sits on my dash in the car dock. but the problem is that EVERY time I start up my truck, or after I end a call it asks to re-download the phonebook.
it kinda irks me, but I cannot get it to stop asking, no setitngs on the stereo work.
I emailed Kenwood about possibly releasing a firmware update to include A2DP to the kiv bt900. They responder saying that there isn't enough demand for the feature for them to create a firmware update. So if we get enough people contacting them and requesting that feature, they will release and update. So you guys should all contact them to increase the demand for this feature. Hope this helps.
Here is exactly what they responded:
"I understand that you're inquiring about the KIV-BT900's Bluetooth features. We do apologize for any difficulties that you've experienced with this item. Unfortunatley, we cannot assist you with any firmware updates at this point since this model was just recently released to the market. Our company has not received enough demand for this feature which prevents us from developing or releasing an update for the KIV-BT900 unit. We may release an Bluetooth update in the future, however it's hard to determine at this time."
I'm willing to start complaining and sending some emails out to them. What email address did you send it too? I just got the player and that is def the only thing missing to make it complete for me.
I tried emailing the regular support channels and got the below message.
Thank you for contacting Kenwood USA Corporation. We value you as a Kenwood customer and appreciate the opportunity to be of assistance.
I Understand you are inquiring about any updates to allow the A2DP profile.
There is currently no available updates and there hasn't been information on upcoming updates for the A2DP profile. We ask that you check back at a later date to verify if one is posted through the www.kenwoodusa.com website.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Please feel free to contact us again with any additional questions.
I spoke with a rep and they mentioned that A2DP missing from the unit is the most often called in issue about the unit.
I have a KDC-BT948 with the same issue. They removed A2DP and put in Pandora instead..and it only works through iPhone, which then uses up wireless data on a cell phone plan. So Android, MS phones, and any other bluetooth device can no longer be used with a Kenwood Car Stereo. Someone at Pandora really made an impression at someone in Kenwood. It is too bad that they are limiting consumers with their choice which ultimately limits their sales and increases complaints.
Should have everyone go do this and request a fix.
Go to the Kenwood Contact page and send an email
This is what I sent
I have purchased the KDC-BT948HD radio.
Where I am overall happy with many of the features, looks, variable colors, and excellent sound quality of the unit, there are several things that I am extremely dissapointed in and would like to see an update released to resolve them.
1. SMS Received message on the unit: Might be useful to some, but to me it is a dangerous distraction while driving, especially at night. It has me take my eyes off the road to look at the unit and makes me want to look at my phone to read/send texts. Texting and driving is illegal in many states and there should be a way on the unit to allow a selection to turn this feature off.
2. BT Audio (A2DP) is missing. I have an Android phone with my music on it. Alone there are more Android phones than iPhones in use today. I wanted to have Bluetooth streaming audio so I can play my music from my phone to the unit. For such a high technology unit, it should be part of the firmware and flexibility to the consumer to use their device with more options. The previous year units had this enabled and seems to be disabled now replaced by a focus on a wired Apple connection and Pandora. Forcing use of Pandora also forces consumers to use up data rates on their wireless plans. If A2DP were enabled, more consumers could enjoy the product integration with standard BT devices offered by Apple, Android, Microsoft and many others. All could enjoy the music and audio applications on their devices including Pandora. I would like to request that A2DP be added to the firmware and source selection on this device. I should yield increase product ratings and sales as web searches show many complaints about this issue.
I would value your feedback on these points and potential solutions.
Best regards
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My incredible works great with my Ford sync system. It always connects, calls are loud and crisp, and streaming bt audio works great. I use it to listen to Pandora all the time.
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Plus 1 for Sync
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I have a Galaxy Note 2 running Jedi Master 13. Every single thing is awesome about this phone...
EXCEPT:
I have a Lincoln with the new MyLincoln Touch radio. It supports text messaging ONLY with ICS or more specifically, Bluetooth 3.x. The Bluetooth MAP (messaging access profile) is different in 4.0 and thus not supported. Is there any way to downgrade said Bluetooth version?
I only use BT stereo and phone headsets normally, never use file transfers so the 4.0 advantages wouldn't affect me (I hope).
Thanks in advance for the input! :good:
Did u try and call the dealership, maybe ur car has update they can do
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Did u try and call the dealership, maybe ur car has update they can do
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Yes, yes I did. I was in touch with the people that make the MyLincoln Touch device that works with Microsoft Sync. I have the newest version, which supports up to Android 4.1.1 and the Bluetooth 3.0 software, which has advanced compatibility with MAP. The Bluetooth 4.0 doesn't work the same and makes it lose the ability to do SMS from the car itself. Ugh.
I was hoping I could somehow put the old Bluetooth stack onto my phone to make it work properly. As of right now, Ford/Lincoln say that only Android ICS' Bluetooth stack is compatible. I feel better than the Apple community, they don't even get pictures to transfer. At least It's cool having the address book picture on my phone.
So can it be downgraded or not?
I am also interested in this (for another device though). Is it possible in principle?
No this stuff is way too complex due to the new advancement of spamsung Knox controling everything, we have very little control of our devices any more
I've just got a new (to me) car & BT isn't playing fair... It seems to be a known issue, but I'm keen to get it working...
The phone functions are working fine, but the music/audio function isn't. BT audio isn't showing up in the cars interface, nor on my HTC 10 when connected.
Is there a way to add more profiles or make the phone more visible to other BT devices. The issue is 100% with the car & it probably doesn't support enough protocols, but I'm hoping there's a useful app to help...
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I've just got a new (to me) car & BT isn't playing fair... It seems to be a known issue, but I'm keen to get it working...
The phone functions are working fine, but the music/audio function isn't. BT audio isn't showing up in the cars interface, nor on my HTC 10 when connected.
Is there a way to add more profiles or make the phone more visible to other BT devices. The issue is 100% with the car & it probably doesn't support enough protocols, but I'm hoping there's a useful app to help...
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Make and model of car?
I had a similar issue with a BMW and my wife's PRIV.
Had to update the BMW software. They had it on their website for download and install.
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The car's a Porsche Cayman. I'm not sure there's a firmware update available... Feckin cheap German engineering!
My last car was a 2009 Nissan Altima and it had a horrible BT stack. I had to do some workarounds to even get a call to work properly. Newer cars seem to do much better these days.
Like Anandlal suggested, I'd take a look and see if there are any firmware updates for your car. Some makers have them available for download and make it easy to do yourself (Ford comes to mind here). Others may require an update to be applied at the dealer, and that might incur a charge. If they have to do it, you may want to have it done with an oil change or other service to minimize cost and inconvenience.
I feel for you. Cars can be picky and if you get a lazy manufacturer that doesn't update their stuff, you're SOL. I'd hope that for they'd take good care of you considering what you paid for that Porsche.
Good luck!
Hi all,
just a simple question - had anybody succeeded with MirrorLink? And with full phone mirroring (not just with the limited number of apps allowed)? If so, how? My A320FL is updated to the latest available Android 6.0.1, then rooted.
I tried several apps and guides together with two cars (Toyota & Skoda) with no success:
1) Samsung CarMode - the latest available from the market is not the latest, as I found somewhere here, but anyway: it doesn't do anything with Skoda and does show "Your phone is connected through MirrorLink" when connected with Toyota Touch 2, but shows nothing on the display. No option to start it is displayed on Toyota display, Skoda Amundsen says "no compatible app found".
2) LG MirrorDrive - does not even start, but it's shown as compatible app in Skoda. And once, I got the display in portrait mode shown on Skoda display for few seconds.
3) Android Auto - even though it's not accessible in my country (don't know why), I installed the latest version, but it is possible to start this app only on the phone, no car sees it.
check this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-TNAXxFqDw&t
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check this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-TNAXxFqDw&t
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Thanks for idea, but it's unfortunately not the right thing - this deals with app flickering when the phone is already connected via MirrorLink. In my case, I don't see anything related to phone display on the car's display. In the meantime, I found out, that the possible problem could be system incompatibility - Samsung supports only MirrorLink 1.1 and Toyota is MirrorLink 1.0 (that's why all the videos online with Toyota are shown with the old S3). I also found out, that Samsung dropped the backward compatibility on Bluetooth, so i.e. old integrated handsfree in 2007 Yaris is now unusable. Shame on Samsung, did those people ever see a car?
Finally, got it working. But not thanks only to myself
The first is thanks to Toyota - there has to be at least HE3934 firmware version loaded (that I found out only when trying to make the mirrorlink running in a new Yaris).
The second is, that in phone, only one mirrorlink app is allowed and it shall be LG MirrorDrive for make it running in Toyota (Samsung CarMode app supports only VW group vehicles - possibly because they provide VW with the whole infotainment and related electronics).
The third and most important is the cable - it has to be a cable that "somehow" supports mirrorlink - Samsung original cable is ok, but I firstly tested it with another "noname" cable, which works only sometimes. Only during longer continuous driving period I found out, that the "impossible to connect" periods happen when the phone and cable shake - maybe some contact is doubled in the original cable.
As last I need to say, that LG MirrorDrive mirrors any running app, but after you run an app, mirroring quits with message, that the function is not available during driving. But it starts the app in background anyway, so when you run LG MirrorDrive on the infotainment again (without disconnecting or anyhow touching the phone), the system opens directly in the app you started before. It's also good to turn off the notifications for LG MirrorDrive, as it shows a message about incompatibility every time it's started.
So I hope that the lines above help also somebody else.
Can a samsung a3 2017 screen mirror? If yes then how please??
... but only working with nougat. Android 8 not working any more. ?
Please send me