Hi all,
Anyone can confirm that Desire has a rSAP (remote Sim access)?
Some people are saying it doesn't work with their Nav, some say it is working.
Any one got it hooked up to their Vw/Audi/Skoda RNS Nav?
Looking to change from my TouchHD.
Cheers,
Android does not support the SAP/rSAP protocol. It may be that some people have it working on cars that use the HFP or HSP profiles.
Thanks mate, not good at all!!!
A little up now the phone's live...
Does it support rsap? is there any way to push contacts etc...?
I got an audi with a built in Bluetooth system, pairing ok, phone etc ok, but no possibilities with my desire to have rsap working
swissman said:
A little up now the phone's live...
Does it support rsap? is there any way to push contacts etc...?
I got an audi with a built in Bluetooth system, pairing ok, phone etc ok, but no possibilities with my desire to have rsap working
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I also have the Audi built in BT system, and it works fine except that from what I've read about rSAP, I don't think it's working in that mode with the Audi.
The only difference (problem) I've been facing with my HTC phones vs. Nokia e71 is that the phone ring tone is not pushed to the car speakers when receiving a call. I was hoping it would work with the Desire as the default Audi BT ringtone is stupidly annoying.
Sorry off topic again, but I was wondering, are Bluetooth profiles generally defined by hardware or software? Or some by this, some by that?
Maybe you could check if it has another setting to retrieve data from the phone.
From what i know the new modules used in audi/vw/skoda are Novero modules (part of the nokia business) which only supports rsap.
The older modules are from harman/Becker and do support al the possible connectiontypes.
You can check which type you have under the passengers frontseat, the modules are build in under the seat, not in the radio.
If you have a Novero, tough luck. But you can always check on the local car junkyard if you can find an old car which does have a harman/becker, and build that one in
salahag said:
I also have the Audi built in BT system, and it works fine except that from what I've read about rSAP, I don't think it's working in that mode with the Audi.
The only difference (problem) I've been facing with my HTC phones vs. Nokia e71 is that the phone ring tone is not pushed to the car speakers when receiving a call. I was hoping it would work with the Desire as the default Audi BT ringtone is stupidly annoying.
Sorry off topic again, but I was wondering, are Bluetooth profiles generally defined by hardware or software? Or some by this, some by that?
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Just wanted to add to eliminate any confusion. I can dial contacts saved on the phone and directly search for them on the car screen. But what I understood is that rSAP profile connects to the SIM card and fully replaces the phone, where it goes into some kind of sleep mode!
salahag said:
Just wanted to add to eliminate any confusion. I can dial contacts saved on the phone and directly search for them on the car screen. But what I understood is that rSAP profile connects to the SIM card and fully replaces the phone, where it goes into some kind of sleep mode!
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Exactly... you can even read/send sms directly through the display and through your car multimedia system.
Ford
Just a little extra info, Desire now works with the Ford Convers+ system but ONLY on Android 2.1 Update1 (the stock Android 2.1 didn't work).
Just thought that may be why there's mixed reports of working/not working?
Tirinoarim said:
Just a little extra info, Desire now works with the Ford Convers+ system but ONLY on Android 2.1 Update1 (the stock Android 2.1 didn't work).
Just thought that may be why there's mixed reports of working/not working?
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I got the stock Android and it's showing Android 2.1 update 1.... but not working ;-)
Hmm - well I'm trying to use my HTC Desire with a 2010 Audi A3 with BT and not having any luck so far. Although it paired and transferred the phonebook (took quite a few minutes with a couple of hundred contacts), it's now being really flaky and sometimes just refusing to connect at all. I tried un-pairing/re-pairing but to no avail. It just seems to work sometimes for a bit then stop again. By comparison pairing my Desire with a Jabra BT headset worked fine.
Anyone else having these problems? Anyone know of any updates for the Audi software? (if not I suppose I'll just need to wait for Froyo and hope that it fixes things )
my desire works well with my VW golf.
phone book, calls (dialing and receiving) and status dispay working. not working is SMS
Hey Folks,
there is room for some BT "education", because most people don't know the difference between rSAP and Handsfree.
Handsfree is working like a BT headset - most disadvantage - you are using the phoneunit of your mobile.
rSAP is using BT protocoll to get only the SIM card of your mobile and work together with the phoneunit of your car.
For Audi you can see on which mode your are conntected at the MMI-Display => "SIM card icon" stands for rSAP while "Mobilephone icon" represents handsfree mode.
no rSAP
I could be wrong, but I was of the impression that Nokia had patented the RSAP protocol, so you're not going to see it on non-Nokia phones. Irritating, really. Some car users have retrofitted their handsfree kits with a module that uses handsfree profile with some success but it's not going to use the car antennae etc in this case.
rSAP is a "STANDARD" for bluetooth protocoll in general.
Nokia was one of the first, thatswhy the Nokia unit has some "problems" in early releases....
Well I picked up my Skoda Superb last week, dealer told me they were fitting the new GSM 3 units that had just recently changed, not that it meant much to me.
Anyways it did work fine first couple days then started playing up with not connecting, I went into the options because I found it was connecting to media, but not phone, so I disabled the media option on the phone for the bluetooth connections and its been fine ever since.
Desire running Modaco R4, R5 & R6 now also ok.
Also saw a file posted on there that is meant to fix the iffy bluetooth connection problems, its been confirmed as working but I've not tried it as I've not had any more problems with it.
Will take a look though see if its connecting with a phone or sim card, I had noticed the signal always seemed really good even if the phone was berried in the car somewhere so maybe the rSAP explains it.
Tinyk said:
Also saw a file posted on there that is meant to fix the iffy bluetooth connection problems, its been confirmed as working but I've not tried it as I've not had any more problems with it.
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Do you have a link to the thread that includes this file by any chance?
Do not mix up android 2.1 and 2.2.
AFAIK the modaco roms are froyo which should have a better bluetooth stack than eclair.
Well some good news! The FroYo/2.2 update on the Desire seemed to do the trick for me and I now seem to be able to get a stable BT connection with my A3. Phonebook transfer working fine too and it's reacquiring the connection when getting back into the car.
Any hope for Android 2.1?
Alanjrobertson: did you say you got your HTC Desire Android v2.1 phone working with your Audi, albeit a bit flaky? I cant get my HTC Desire Android v2.1 phone working with my VW EOS working at all.
What was the process you followed? The process I went through was to turn on phone’s bluetooth and make my phone discoverable. I then initiated a search from the car. It found my phone and displayed the correct name. However, when I chose the “connect” option on the car, it gave the error message: "mobile telephone phone is not compatible" on the car’s MFD.
Is this what you did? Is there a better way of connecting?
The car’s entertainment system is RNS510. I’m not sure if this is associated with Bluetooth or not.
My previous phone (Nokia 5800) worked OK, but my Desire doesn’t.
I am hoping that the Android v2.2 upgrade will fix my problems, but I’m still waiting for the update from Orange. It could take a while by the sounds of things.
I contacted HTC and they told me “The HTC Desire does not have the remote sim access profile. we currently have no plans to update the Bluetooth profiles on the device.” This makes me worried that when I eventually do get the Android v2.2 upgrade it will not work.
Any ideas other than waiting for the Android v2.2 upgrade?
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Hey guys,
i was wondering if anyone was facing this problem... i have the Alpine 103BT in my car which has an inbuilt parrot bluetooth system. I have noticed that when someone calls me it shows up on the lcd on the headunit then immediately drops the call! it shows up as a missed call on my tp2... but when i call using this bluetooth system then it works like a charm!
Any idea what i can do to change this? Is there a setting i have inadvertently changed?
I would really appreciate this because this call dropping really defeats the point of hands free!
Elfangor
I've got the same problem.
Just look a few posts down the list and you'll notice my 'cry for help'.
So far though, nobody's come to the rescue.
I've been reading that our phones have a unique BT-implementation, so it could be down to a bug in that area. If more people show up having similar issue, we might know.
Until then: fingers crossed and hope for sombody to post a solution.
Great! its not just me then! I hope it gets sorted! it gets on your nerves after awhile!
That's putting it mildly.
This sucks big-time: when on a business-call you definitely don't want your headset to die in you. During any conversation, really, but blasting along the motorway it's the last thing you need.
I also have an alpine 103 bt and an htc touch(elf) with onyx rom on it.
my problem is that when i make a call either from the head unit or the phone on the head unit it stops the music, displays CALLING and then after 3 seconds it displays ------------- , resumes the music, but the phone doesnt hang up. It continues the call, shows that is stil connected but you cant hear anything.
this is really frastrating as it does this sort of thing randomly and not always.
any thoughts?
Your symptoms sound a bit different from ours so it could be a totally different problem.
We might need to be paitient until one of the experts has a simiral experience and dived into the software.
Until then, I'm baffled.
eidikos said:
I also have an alpine 103 bt and an htc touch(elf) with onyx rom on it.
my problem is that when i make a call either from the head unit or the phone on the head unit it stops the music, displays CALLING and then after 3 seconds it displays ------------- , resumes the music, but the phone doesnt hang up. It continues the call, shows that is stil connected but you cant hear anything.
this is really frastrating as it does this sort of thing randomly and not always.
any thoughts?
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Come to think of it... i have a similar problem.. when i get an incoming call it stops the music and registers a call and just a few second later..i get the --------------, and then the music comes back...by the time i fish my phone out of the pocket ive got a missed call! havnt noticed any problems when im calling though.
i tried repairing the phone to the unit but same thing! not sure what else i could do
Similar problem (I think)
Cant get a working setup in my car kit. I have a Jaguar XF SC with bluetooth handsfree...The TP2 (TMO US) pairs and docks fine, but doesnt work well. Incoming calls dont seem to be recognized, and outbound calls will dial and communicate, but wont hangup. When I hang up from the TP2, the car kit still thinks its connected and mutes the radio until i forcebly disconnect from TP2...
arg...
I've got exactly the same problem as the original poster. Mine's a vodafone TP2 with the standard vodafone rom. I've got the Alpine 104BTi. I can make outgoing calls ok but as has been described any incoming call will show the caller ID for about 1 ring and then it hangs up the call.
I've got a Jabra BT500 which works perfectly. I am wondering whether it may be the actual firmware in the Alpine device. If you look at the phone compatibility list on the Alpine website the TP2 is not listed. It worked fine with my Kaiser and this is listed as compatible.
I emailed their tech support and they said they are waiting for their customized version of the firmware from Parrot to be updated, possibly around September. I've noticed that for the Parrot standalone devices these all list the TouchPro2 as compatible, so maybe this will be fixed.
They did mention that the firmware update may only be available through the dealers. I'll keep an eye on their website. My current firmware version is 320.
I've read some other threads somewhere that people with the vodafone rom describe having problems with bluetooth that are fixed after flashing with a different rom so may turn out to be that.
Infuriating though.
It seems to be the poor implementation of the new BT stack
I have had similar problems to those described above, my Peugeot van has inbuilt BT (uses Parrot in implementation) which just misbehaves unbelievably including hanging up the current call if a new one comes in on call waiting, phonebook access is rediculously slow and buggy.
My Jabra BT8010 disconnects at random
My Jawbone disconnects very occasionally
The stack is full of bugs and HTC must know it - I reported it on their support system and firstly fobbed off, then they said they would look into it, then the log was auto closed - very convenient way to show they are meeting targets in resolving issues.
It is poor, poor and more poor. The new WIDCOMM stack looks great but doesnt really work.
Very poor for a flagship handset and they should sort something out
I went to an Alpine delearship who suggested what ukdoc was trying to do.. basically firmware update! Are you using a different Alpine website? Because the one i go to says coming soon on the page where software updates are supposed to be. I culdnt find any connection with parrot and alpine on the parrot website!
Basically what im asking is how are you going to be getting the firmware update and could you direct me towards it!
Many thanks Mate
Elfangor
rlsxda said:
Cant get a working setup in my car kit. I have a Jaguar XF SC with bluetooth handsfree...The TP2 (TMO US) pairs and docks fine, but doesnt work well. Incoming calls dont seem to be recognized, and outbound calls will dial and communicate, but wont hangup. When I hang up from the TP2, the car kit still thinks its connected and mutes the radio until i forcebly disconnect from TP2...
arg...
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FYI, I just upgraded the radio to "4.46.25.24 - HTC" (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939) and the handsfree seems better...not sure it's perfect, but it does answer and hangup now...
Upgrade Alpine CDE-104BTi firmware from 320 to 360
I have just updated the firmware in my CDE-104BTi radio to version 360
http://www.alpine-electronics.co.uk/support/bluetooth-update-software.html
This has fixed the problem of not being able to recieve incomming calls on my HTC Touch Pro 2.
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I have just updated the firmware in my CDE-104BTi radio to version 360
http://www.alpine-electronics.co.uk/support/bluetooth-update-software.html
This has fixed the problem of not being able to recieve incomming calls on my HTC Touch Pro 2.
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I've just done likewise, and can also receive incoming calls at last!
Hi
I just tried updating the BT in my Alpine 104bti. The laptop connects to the headunit but the update tool don't find the connection, I've tried disabling the antivirus etc. But it don't see the connection but the connection is displayed on the laptop.
Any Ideas whats wrong ?
Cheers Gomez...
SOLVED
Tried again using a laptop with Xp on worked first time, Seems Windows 7 was causing issues.
Anyone else having bluetooth problems or is this operator error?
I can switch bluetooth on, make my handset visible, pair with other devices and receive files from other handsets, however when I try to send anything, I can't connect to paired devices and bluetooth hangs meaning I have to switch my handset off and on.
I was using bluetooh last night and all was ok
but unlike my last phone c902 the bluetooth is on a timer then turns off visibility
Working fine for me. Paired up my bluetooth headset and will still be working hours later even if I haven't interacted between them.
It's strange, devices show as paired but not connected and I can't make them connect.
Have been able to use BT for file transfer between my Desire and laptop and HD2. Also connected to my Plantronics BT headset. I think you need to have an appropriate BT driver for some devices like BT keyboards.
I too am having minor issues.
The wife's hands free kit (Parrot CK3000 evo) in the car supports voice dialling by sending contacts to it and then recording a tag which is associated with the contact. This way the kit can do the voice dialling for handsets that don't support it.
For some reason the Desire refuses to send contacts to the hands free kit claiming it doesn't support the correct bluetooth profiles. This obviously isn't the case as all the other phones we have tried work perfectly with the CK3000.
Only a minor issue, as in my car which has the CK3300 everything works fine (including syncing the phonebook to the car kit). It's more of a problem for the wife though, as she wants to upgrade to the Desire on Saturday when her contract is up for renewal but at the minute won't be able to voice dial from the car.
Dae.
Strange. I'll try connceting to my laptop later.
I too am having difficulty sending files over bluetooth. I can accept files fine, from any source, yet cannot send from my HTC Desire. First the notification says complete, but 0 files sent. Then going inside it shows it has failed. And then clicking it and retrying shows Unknown file. What's going on??
Tried sending to two mobile phones, and a Windows 7 laptop. Easily works the other way around. Also, sometimes I can't turn my bluetooth off properly, it just crashes the chip while turning off and can't turn it on or off until I reboot. Thought it might be Advanced Task Killer, but tried the same thing immediately after a reboot and still can't send files. Any ideas?
still no closer to solving this, I think it may be going back tomorrow.
I'm also having problems...
I have the Parrot CK3200 LS-COLOR and it connects to the phone ok, or vice versa and then it always falls over when trying to sync the contacts... It shows my facebook profile pic and then it fails.
If I dial a contact through the phone, or receive a call, it comes out fine through the speakers.
So I'm wondering if it's something to do with the way the the desire handles contacts.
Sorry if there's been a resolution to this, I did search first
me to also having the same problems. spent 4 hours on google last night and still no closer.
Weird as it might sound, I had no issues connectiong to car stereo. But when I tried to pair it with friends mobile, SonyEricsson c902 - it crashed!
I was trying to send a picture file I have downloaded using bluetooth.
Also, can anyone tell me how to send a mp3 file I have downloaded off the internet to another mobile using bluetooth?
Thanks
Have you enabled FTP under Bluetooth advanced settings? I have no problem transfering files to and from PC or other mobile phone. Also make sure the device is dicroverable and paired.
I had a similar problem which I wrote to HTC about: I paired and connected the Desire with my bluetooth car head unit and it works fine for phone & audio, but it will not auto connect each time I get in the car and I have to go through the pairing process and enter a code each time. Voice dialling also doesn't work. My previous handset (Touch HD) connected automatically if the bluetooth was on so I don't think it's a problem with the head unit. Someone suggested it might be due to an old bluetooth protocol on the head unit (I'd like to avoid having to replace it if possible).
i managed to send a file to another htc desire today, last time i tried, i admit i didn't enable the ftp service, however I could not send via bluetooth to a nokia n96 but to be fair, my desire probably just didn't want anything to do with it . but on a serious note I cant seem to get it to send to my windows 7 x64 disto.
dreamdealer said:
i managed to send a file to another htc desire today, last time i tried, i admit i didn't enable the ftp service, however I could not send via bluetooth to a nokia n96 but to be fair, my desire probably just didn't want anything to do with it . but on a serious note I cant seem to get it to send to my windows 7 x64 disto.
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take that back .. apart from the N96 joke.. reason windows was not accepting was because avast anti virus was blocking it.
Pumpkin Lantern said:
I'm also having problems...
I have the Parrot CK3200 LS-COLOR and it connects to the phone ok, or vice versa and then it always falls over when trying to sync the contacts... It shows my facebook profile pic and then it fails.
If I dial a contact through the phone, or receive a call, it comes out fine through the speakers.
So I'm wondering if it's something to do with the way the the desire handles contacts.
Sorry if there's been a resolution to this, I did search first
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I have the same problem, any help would be appreciated...
Sorted! (For Desire)
Sorted this problem out! See new thread
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Sorted this problem out! See new thread
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where's the new thread?
yurikg said:
where's the new thread?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668042
All,
I have this small issue with my HTC Desire and the Parrot CK3000 Evolution. Until now, everything works perfectly (calling, sending contacts, voice dialing, ending calls,...)
However I have one small issue. When I enter my car, and my phone is locked, the Desire will not pair with the Parrot. From the moment I activate the screen, pairing is done within a few seconds. I already tried to leave it there for half an hour, no pairing, touched the screen, pairing within a few seconds.
It looks to me like the bluetooth is not active / alive when the phone is locked (or in sleep). From the moment the pairing is done, everything works fine, also when the phone is back in lock / sleep.
Anybody has anything similar or has a solution for this? I searched the market for some kind of Bluetooth-keep-alive application, but could not really find it...
Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
Speedygerre
Small bump, nobody any idea for a solution or somekind of workaround / app?
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I have a similar situation with my Audi A5 (factory BT kit).
It will connect when the phone is locked (screen off etc) but it can take anything from 1 to 10 minutes before it does connect.
Like yourself, my Desire connects immediately if the phone is not locked.
Strangely, it appears to work OK in my Mazda MX-5 which has a Kenwood DNX8220BT system (Bluetooth, SatNav, Ipod, coffee maker etc) - and the Bluetooth is a Parrot system. Having said that, I haven't used the MX-5 much since I got my Desire so it might not be a representative sample.
There is definitely something amiss though.
I have a Parrot CK 3100, and whilst I am happy to report that I do not have the same problem as you, I did have a problem syncing my contacts.
Check out this site, and download the software to udate to the latest firmware. You will need a laptop with either built in bluetooth, or a seperate bluetooth dongle.
http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/onlinehelpguides
I updated the firmware on mine, and now my contacts sync properly.
There is a good chance that updating could fix your connection problem as well.
Sorry forgot to add, that updating the kit really is a doddle, but their software is Windows 32bit ONLY and definitely no MAC!
Thans pergolesi, I hope your suggestion workshop, I will try it when I have some time one of the next days.
However I still think it has something to do with the Desire, since syncing workshop perfectly when Desire is not locked...
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I don't know about the Bluetooth but I know my wifi deactivates after about 5 minutes when it's locked even though I have it set to never turn off. Maybe the Bluetooth is doing the same.
Perhaps not much help, but I sometimes play music from my Desire on my car headunit using Bluetooth streaming, and that continues to work fine when the screen goes off and the phone is locked. It also still responds to commands from the headunit (skip, pause, etc).
Once it's connected, everything works OK for me as well, it just is the connecting moment which apparently does not always work
REB1 said:
I have a similar situation with my Audi A5 (factory BT kit).
It will connect when the phone is locked (screen off etc) but it can take anything from 1 to 10 minutes before it does connect.
Like yourself, my Desire connects immediately if the phone is not locked.
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Can I ask what year your A5 is? I've got a 2010 A3 and BT doesn't work properly with my Desire I can get it to pair, but then it will disconnect a few minutes later and the only way to reconnect seems to be to unpair/repair or switch the car off/on. When it IS working it can make calls, etc. fine - but I just can't get it to stay connected I tried my Audi dealer but they just said it's not on the Audi list and there's no update to support it, so interested to hear you got it working on your A5.
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Can I ask what year your A5 is? I've got a 2010 A3 and BT doesn't work properly with my Desire I can get it to pair, but then it will disconnect a few minutes later and the only way to reconnect seems to be to unpair/repair or switch the car off/on. When it IS working it can make calls, etc. fine - but I just can't get it to stay connected I tried my Audi dealer but they just said it's not on the Audi list and there's no update to support it, so interested to hear you got it working on your A5.
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My A5 is a 2008 model with SatNav and therefore MMI High. The Desire paired straight away with no problems and both the car and the phone remember each other - it just takes awhile sometimes for one or the other to realise it and connect.
I'm pretty certain that it is the phone that has the problem as I had no such problems with several Sony Ericsson phones previously.
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My A5 is a 2008 model with SatNav and therefore MMI High. The Desire paired straight away with no problems and both the car and the phone remember each other - it just takes awhile sometimes for one or the other to realise it and connect.
I'm pretty certain that it is the phone that has the problem as I had no such problems with several Sony Ericsson phones previously.
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Thanks - interesting. I wonder how many different BT stacks Audi run - I was hoping they'd share some common code and therefore be updated quickly but it sounds like this isn't the case given that it's working fine on your A5. Thanks for the info though!
My girlfriend and I both have HTC Desires (one unbranded and one Vodafone). We recently got a 2005 BMW 5 series with the I-Drive Pro Nav system in it.
When I try to use BT to connect to the car, I can manage to pair them, but when the phone goes to connect to the car, it only connects for a few seconds and then disconnects. It then connects again and the whole thing repeats. The disconnect is frequent enough (every few seconds) to render the whole thing unusable. It also means that it isn't connected long enough to transfer the phone book.
Both our Desire's have this problem (they have different firmwares). I thought that maybe it was the car, but I put my SIM into my old Xperia X1 and it worked flawlessly with the car.
Is there a setting on the phone that needs adjusting or is it a firmware problem? I hear other people with the same car having no problems with the Desire. I've also used my Desire in a Toyota Avensis and a Vauxhall Insignia with no problems.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
tifosi256 said:
My girlfriend and I both have HTC Desires (one unbranded and one Vodafone). We recently got a 2005 BMW 5 series with the I-Drive Pro Nav system in it.
When I try to use BT to connect to the car, I can manage to pair them, but when the phone goes to connect to the car, it only connects for a few seconds and then disconnects. It then connects again and the whole thing repeats. The disconnect is frequent enough (every few seconds) to render the whole thing unusable. It also means that it isn't connected long enough to transfer the phone book.
Both our Desire's have this problem (they have different firmwares). I thought that maybe it was the car, but I put my SIM into my old Xperia X1 and it worked flawlessly with the car.
Is there a setting on the phone that needs adjusting or is it a firmware problem? I hear other people with the same car having no problems with the Desire. I've also used my Desire in a Toyota Avensis and a Vauxhall Insignia with no problems.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
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Hi,
I know there are some issues when it comes to Bluetooth and Android, and especially car kits.
Ref (sound quality): http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
Ref (disconnections): http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=5452
This is supposed to be a fix (I did not get it to work properly): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731626
I know that Cyanogenmod has made some changes to their kernel in 6.1 that adresses audio quality (bitpool increased), and I also think that the disconnection is adressed. I'm actually testing it for the moment (6.1RC2).
Thanks very much for your reply - very useful. The link to disconnections that you gave shows someone else with the same car as us (slightly different model) with the same issue.
It's very strange as there are people reporting no problems at all with that car/phone combination.
Unfortunately, I can't try the suggested fix as I don't want to start mucking around with my ROM.
I have a problem with my Volvo and the Desire. No disconnections, but I can't get into the phonebook, using PBAP.
Flashing a MIUI Rom works charming for the bluetooth connectivity, however I'm missing my SenseUI.
Just hoping, praying, some def will include the AOSP bluetoothstack in a SenseUI-Rom
BMW Software update
Hi
I´d try contacting your local BMW workshop, to let them do a reading on your car to establish which software version your car have.
If it´s a rather old software version your car have, I´d suggest that you have it updated.
The software update might be the answer to your problems, and can also explain why other users with the same car don´t have this issue (they might have a newer software version than you).
Remember, this phone is way newer than the car, and also the software in it.
I´d give it a try
PS: Be advised. Updating from very old software to new software might cause "in car-hardware" compatibility issues, and demand new hardware in the car (computer modules ect.), so make sure you talk over which consequences the update could have for your specific car before the update is carried out
Cheers
-Buggi- (BMW workshop foreman in Denmark)
Thanks for that advice. I'll talk to the dealership and see about software upgrades. Fingers crossed!
I have a 2008 530i and my Desire (and my other halfs) work fine, so hopefully there is some newer firmware for yours. They facelifted the cars and slightly changed the iDrive in 2007 though so fingers crossed there is an update that fixes the pre-LCI models with a Desire.
Just for reference, this is sorted out now.
My I-Drive actually broke and I had a whole new unit put in (under warranty thankfully!). Since they were doing that, I begged them for the latest software, not just for the Bluetooth module, but for the system as a whole.
Since the software upgrade, the phone stays connected and everything works great.
The only fly in the ointment is that it seems that for some reason, not all numbers of contacts (or all contacts) make it into the car's phone book (most of them do).
Anyway, for anyone else having this issue, get BMW to upgrade your BT software (or the whole system if you're brave).
I have similar problem when i try to pair the phone with volkswagen tiguan 2010, it says "your phone in not supported"
can anyone tell me if I can update the Bluetooth in my HTC Desire or have more profiles. the phone is branded o2 but can be rooted. I dont want to change anything else in the ROM just make the bluetooth connect automaticaly & reliably to the car.
There are newer software builds available but have no mention of updating bluetooth.
Ther are no OTA updates available.
Software Number is 2.14.207.1
Andriod 2.2
Thanks for any advice in advance.
Trampsdad
Can't you just pair the 2 devices together? I personally don't use Bluetooth so no idea on that aspect. Also, the software is so out of date because o2 cba to release and update. There are major updates since yours. It might be worth considering to root so then you can flash a newer ROM, or infact, you don't need to root and just use an RUU. With the newest software. No need to root it then and less chance of it mess up.
Hope this helps
I still have some strangeness with Bluetooth. From what I read there are some updates in Honeycomb and maybe gingerbread. But I don't have a feeling what you are looking for is in FroYo
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Well I have a Kenwood Headunit with Bluetooth and the connection to that using stock Froyo and LeeDroid showed some interesting results. Gaps in the phonebook for instance. However, putting a 2.3 ROM (Ginger Villain) sorted that out, its fine now.
Bluetooth depends on the other device too.
What exactly is the problem you are having?
What Car do you have?
What Bluetooth system is installed (is it standard)?
I have used my desire in a number of cars (Vauxhall, Ford, BMW) without any isses with pairing, using the Phonebook,etc. is a different matter.
Personally, I have just received a new BMW 528i, and it doesn't get on well with my Desire at all.
It pairs OK and can use both the phone and music, but when I leave and return to the car, it just refuses to auto-connect again, and I have to go through the pairing procedure again.
Oh, except one - the time I went back to the garage to 'complain' about it and ask for advice, when it worked perfectly. Until I got home again!
Have experimented with my old Nokia N85, and that works fine, too. So it's either the Desire or an incompatibility between it and the car.
Oh, my Desire is running MCR r9 (FroYo) at the moment. Are there known issues with this? Info on any Bluetooth updates I could apply would be gratefully received!
i have to enter my pairing code every time i connect my bt headset - i took this to be a quirk for the moment - hoping its fixed in 2.2.2/2.3.x etc.
Lothaen said:
i have to enter my pairing code every time i connect my bt headset - i took this to be a quirk for the moment - hoping its fixed in 2.2.2/2.3.x etc.
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Im having this same problem also with a Pioneer Head Unit in my car.
Bluetooth has always been troublesome as it doesn't auto connect. It will connect if I either manually click on "Pioneer Head Unit" or turn Bluetooth off and on (which I automate with tasker).
The pin thing is new and happens with all roms I have tried except LeeDroid, (which I prefer not to use as I don't like sense much). Leedroid still has the auto connect problem.
daveaus said:
Bluetooth has always been troublesome as it doesn't auto connect. It will connect if I either manually click on "Pioneer Head Unit" or turn Bluetooth off and on (which I automate with tasker).
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Some good hints there - thanks!
I can connect far more reliably if I initiate the connection from the phone than from the car.
Likewise, if BT is switched off on the phone and then turned on after the car is on, then it sometimes works, too. Certainly don't need to re-pair anywhere near as often.
Can I ask how you use Tasker to automate the BT switching? I've not used that (I use Setting Profiles instead which I understand does roughly the same thing), so am curious what kind of rule you have that's useful for this.
Cheers.
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Can I ask how you use Tasker to automate the BT switching? I've not used that (I use Setting Profiles instead which I understand does roughly the same thing), so am curious what kind of rule you have that's useful for this.
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I use the following rules:
On wifi connection turn off bluetooth
On wifi disconnection wait 30 seconds and turn bluetooth on.
If not wifi connected & not bluetooth connected turn bluetooth off and on every 5 minutes.
If not wifi connected & not bluetooth connected and incoming call turn bluetooth off and on.
If not wifi connected & not bluetooth connected when display switched on turn bluetooth off and on.
The battery drain hasn't been a problem, if I go away or won't be using my car for a while I disable tasker. Of course this doesn't help when it keeps asking for the pin.
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I use the following rules:
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Ah, cunning! Of course...toggle it when it's not already connected. Prifile Settings doesn't seem to let me toggle things like BT directly, although I could probably do so by setting some appropriate profiles.
I'll have to experiment...or just buy Tasker, instead!
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Of course this doesn't help when it keeps asking for the pin.
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True, but so far in my case, I've only had that when I've tried to initiate connection from the car. Hopefully your trick will mean I don't need to do that so often.
Anyone found a gingerbread rom (or any rom!) with improved Bluetooth?
I have found the bluetooth to be terrible on the desire. I have got about 3 devices that my phone just refuses to pair with.
Currently I am trying to get it to connect with an Elm 327 Obd scanner. No luck, it asks for a pin, then I enter the pin, but it immediately rejects it.
I have tried oxygen rom, leedroid, stock froyo, everything...
I also have a parrot hands free kit that does the same thing, asks for pin, then does nothing...
Something makes me think it might be the radio or something. Except that my phone DOES connect with my scala motorbike helmet... So frustrating
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