Getting the update PIE show up on system updates. If I download this. Can I downgrade in case im not digging Android P? Rooted and bootloader unlocked. I just got Oreo to my liking. Afraid a lot of apps not ready for PIE.
StankFiss said:
Getting the update PIE show up on system updates. If I download this. Can I downgrade in case im not digging Android P? Rooted and bootloader unlocked. I just got Oreo to my liking. Afraid a lot of apps not ready for PIE.
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Yes you can. It will require a full wipe and a clean fastboot back to 8.1, but it's possible :good:
Good wasn't sure if id get bricked like other phones for downgrading from a major update. 8.1 to 9.0
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hi i need the OTA zip file for the Moto Z Play because i used to have free unlimited wifi hotspot until i updated the phone,
I already have the Android 7.1.1 update but things keep crashing all the time, is it posible for me to downgrade the os?
the phone is unlocked
model : XT1635-02
Below is the method I know of but it seems people have had issues after upgrading to 7.1.1 so you may not be able to down grade at this moment.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/autoscript-install-firmware-downgrade-t3558118
I will advise you that it is a bad idea to downgrade. After the April 7.0 patch, downgrading to Marshmallow and OTAing back to Nougat will result in a hard brick, which cannot be repaired without the necessary blank flash files, which are not available.
IncendiaryPyro said:
I will advise you that it is a bad idea to downgrade. After the April 7.0 patch, downgrading to Marshmallow and OTAing back to Nougat will result in a hard brick, which cannot be repaired without the necessary blank flash files, which are not available.
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I've read about this issue. So basically only for those who had the April 7.0 patch on their Moto Z play will hard brick the device? When they downgrade and update? I've downgraded plenty of times, but decided not to OTA back to nougat.. Now I'm worried if I accidently OTA to Nougat will my phone get hard bricked?
Dchoi229 said:
I've read about this issue. So basically only for those who had the April 7.0 patch on their Moto Z play will hard brick the device? When they downgrade and update? I've downgraded plenty of times, but decided not to OTA back to nougat.. Now I'm worried if I accidently OTA to Nougat will my phone get hard bricked?
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According to a user here, the brick happens when you install the April security update, downgrade to Marshmallow, then OTA back to Nougat, typically bricking on the first, initial update to Nougat. I've downgraded from the January patch once back to Marshmallow, then OTA'd to Nougat + February, then N + March whenever my carrier released it without any issues. I have not received the April patch yet though, but I think you're good.
Awesome. I think it's time to stop flashing roms now lmao.. I dont wanna brick my phone.
Dchoi229 said:
Awesome. I think it's time to stop flashing roms now lmao.. I dont wanna brick my phone.
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I just got the April patch today, and it has not bricked my phone, so if you've never installed that update, you should be okay to OTA.
ok, im confused, I want to downgrade from nougat 7.1.1 to android mm 6.0 with adb, my phone is not rooted i just want to downgrade normally to have hotspot again
robertriverabula said:
ok, im confused, I want to downgrade from nougat 7.1.1 to android mm 6.0 with adb, my phone is not rooted i just want to downgrade normally to have hotspot again
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you can't downgrade unless you unlock the bootloader, and are ok with potentially turning your phone into a brick.
robertriverabula said:
ok, im confused, I want to downgrade from nougat 7.1.1 to android mm 6.0 with adb, my phone is not rooted i just want to downgrade normally to have hotspot again
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Ah, I finally find out that I am not the only one with hotspot issue on 7.1.1. But 7.1.1 is so good that I am not going to downgrade only for the hotspot issue. I will wait for the Official 7.1.1 release to fix that issue.
IncendiaryPyro said:
I just got the April patch today, and it has not bricked my phone, so if you've never installed that update, you should be okay to OTA.
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Great. I've heard that the reason for why people are bricking their phone is because of the updated bootloader? The April patch updates the BL to C1.07 and mine right now is 1.05. Do you think I can flash the Xenon HD rom (7.1.1) and if for some reason i want to downgrade again i wont brick my phone?
Dchoi229 said:
Great. I've heard that the reason for why people are bricking their phone is because of the updated bootloader? The April patch updates the BL to C1.07 and mine right now is 1.05. Do you think I can flash the Xenon HD rom (7.1.1) and if for some reason i want to downgrade again i wont brick my phone?
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Hi just wondering what is the security patch you have? I mean you have c1.05 is it MM?
Kap_Tutan said:
Hi just wondering what is the security patch you have? I mean you have c1.05 is it MM?
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dont get confused. I never downloaded the april security patch. my bootloader version is c1.05 which i believe is the feb patch. the april patch is c1.07. If you downloaded the April patch and downgraded do not try to install the ota. it will brick your phone.
What's the reason for hard brick ?
When downgrading then receiving OTA Update .
After having upgraded from Nougat 7.1.1 to Oreo using the OTA update I'm not feeling the love for it and it breaks a few thing I need to work.
Can anybody point me in the direction of a guide that works to perform the downgrade ? I'm really attached to my Moto Z Play and I don't want to brick it .
Is your bootloader unlocked?
rampare99 said:
Is your bootloader unlocked?
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No it isn't but I don't see any challenge in unlocking it. Having said that I'm starting to come around to liking Oreo on the Moto.
Iceworkz said:
No it isn't but I don't see any challenge in unlocking it. Having said that I'm starting to come around to liking Oreo on the Moto.
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I'm glad to hear that. If you still want to go back to Nougat you'd need to unlock your bootloader, flash TWRP and then flash this zip (after a factory reset) from shamu17:
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620776181
And that's it. If you want to go back to Oreo, you'll need to flash shamu17's Oreo rom.
The only thing I'm noticing since going to Oreo on my Z Play is apps will download to 100% from the Play store but wont install unless I swipe away app from recent apps. Already cleared cache and all that but still goes back to not installing apps. Annoying.
I'd suggest just installing official LineageOS 14.1
Chase down @SupahCookie and guide.
also my guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/mini-guide-bricked-special-case-attempt-t3812530
Iceworkz said:
After having upgraded from Nougat 7.1.1 to Oreo using the OTA update I'm not feeling the love for it and it breaks a few thing I need to work.
Can anybody point me in the direction of a guide that works to perform the downgrade ? I'm really attached to my Moto Z Play and I don't want to brick it .
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Don't feel bad. After I got the Oreo update, all my weather and clock widgets stopped working. They are either frozen in time, or completely invisible on my home screen. My phone ran smooth as silk on Nougat, so I'm less than happy with this new operating system.
use the "alternative"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/mini-guide-bricked-special-case-attempt-t3812530
How do I update to android pie 9.0 from oreo 8.1 while being rooted. I would like to clean flash but don't know if i should do it in TWRP (since i have it installed) or if i should install and update directly from phone updates and then re-root the phone?
I know this might seem dumbfounded. Appreciate the help!
I think there's a guide on the magisk GitHub. Check there first.
I got through it.
factory reset and fastboot flashed everything
WillowTree said:
I got through it.
factory reset and fastboot flashed everything
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That's how I would do it.
One of the best things about Nexus / Google phones is the quick availability of the latest firmware and that one can go forwards AND backwards with versions.
I was rooted on 8.1 and got an update notification to pie. I took it, "knowing," it was gonna fail like all the previous updates. Much to my chagrin, it took! I was surprised to say the least. I was rooted again in less than half an hour...
Hi. I own a moto g5 xt1670, stock nougat with some security patch I believe. I'd like to stay on nougat for a while, so I guess I must root, then freeze the updater app because it's turning pretty annoying. The question is...can I install Oreo Ota with the device rooted in case I want in the future?
I'm not planning to install roms, so I prefer to stay on locked BL.
Many thanks.
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mortadelax said:
Hi. I own a moto g5 xt1670, stock nougat with some security patch I believe. I'd like to stay on nougat for a while, so I guess I must root, then freeze the updater app because it's turning pretty annoying. The question is...can I install Oreo Ota with the device rooted in case I want in the future?
I'm not planning to install roms, so I prefer to stay on locked BL.
Many thanks.
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Well to start with you need to unlock your bootloader if you want to root your device
And otas can only be installed on a totally unmodified device so you would need to flash stock firmware via fastboot (and lock the bootloader to make sure the images are totally unmodified) before any ota is attempted to installed
Thanks both of you for the reply!
So, let's say I'm not interested in Oreo Ota, how can I stop the upgrade spam notification? I guess I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the updater app. Is that correct? In case I want Oreo in the future I guess I can install some rom...
Does this make sense? I've read bad reviews about oreo and battery drain. This is my mother's phone. I don't want any possible problem. Nougat is just fine, and works well.
Thanks a lot. I'll be waiting for your reply.
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Thanks both of you for the reply!
So, let's say I'm not interested in Oreo Ota, how can I stop the upgrade spam notification? I guess I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the updater app. Is that correct? In case I want Oreo in the future I guess I can install some rom...
Does this make sense? I've read bad reviews about oreo and battery drain. This is my mother's phone. I don't want any possible problem. Nougat is just fine, and works well.
Thanks a lot. I'll be waiting for your reply.
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Force stopping system update app (you need to show system apps in app list) will temporarily remove the notification until restart or the app starts again
And as far as I'm aware there's nothing wrong with oreo - Always makes me laugh when people say they have read something but provide no source or context
Hi everyone!
I've updated my z2 force to pie, and i wish I hadn't. Is it possible to downgrade back to Oreo and how? If possible, i wouldn't want to loose my gpay/banking apps, so i presume I'd have to relock the bootloader after downgrading. Sorry, newb here.
Thanks.
crnispot said:
Hi everyone!
I've updated my z2 force to pie, and i wish I hadn't. Is it possible to downgrade back to Oreo and how? If possible, i wouldn't want to loose my gpay/banking apps, so i presume I'd have to relock the bootloader after downgrading. Sorry, newb here.
Thanks.
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Based on all of the things that have happened over the last couple of weeks with several users in this forum, it appears that there is no going back to Oreo from Pie. Once you have installed a Pie modem, so far, no one had come up with a way to get an Oreo modem back in the device and get one working. There may be hope in the future but it hasnt been worked out yet.
Hot tip, If you lock you bootloader after flashing Oreo and can no longer enable OEM Unlock as you cannot access internet... use Bluetooth Tether to other phone to access internet, then OEM Unlock is available again.