After having upgraded from Nougat 7.1.1 to Oreo using the OTA update I'm not feeling the love for it and it breaks a few thing I need to work.
Can anybody point me in the direction of a guide that works to perform the downgrade ? I'm really attached to my Moto Z Play and I don't want to brick it .
Is your bootloader unlocked?
rampare99 said:
Is your bootloader unlocked?
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No it isn't but I don't see any challenge in unlocking it. Having said that I'm starting to come around to liking Oreo on the Moto.
Iceworkz said:
No it isn't but I don't see any challenge in unlocking it. Having said that I'm starting to come around to liking Oreo on the Moto.
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I'm glad to hear that. If you still want to go back to Nougat you'd need to unlock your bootloader, flash TWRP and then flash this zip (after a factory reset) from shamu17:
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620776181
And that's it. If you want to go back to Oreo, you'll need to flash shamu17's Oreo rom.
The only thing I'm noticing since going to Oreo on my Z Play is apps will download to 100% from the Play store but wont install unless I swipe away app from recent apps. Already cleared cache and all that but still goes back to not installing apps. Annoying.
I'd suggest just installing official LineageOS 14.1
Chase down @SupahCookie and guide.
also my guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/mini-guide-bricked-special-case-attempt-t3812530
Iceworkz said:
After having upgraded from Nougat 7.1.1 to Oreo using the OTA update I'm not feeling the love for it and it breaks a few thing I need to work.
Can anybody point me in the direction of a guide that works to perform the downgrade ? I'm really attached to my Moto Z Play and I don't want to brick it .
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Don't feel bad. After I got the Oreo update, all my weather and clock widgets stopped working. They are either frozen in time, or completely invisible on my home screen. My phone ran smooth as silk on Nougat, so I'm less than happy with this new operating system.
use the "alternative"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/mini-guide-bricked-special-case-attempt-t3812530
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Getting the update PIE show up on system updates. If I download this. Can I downgrade in case im not digging Android P? Rooted and bootloader unlocked. I just got Oreo to my liking. Afraid a lot of apps not ready for PIE.
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Getting the update PIE show up on system updates. If I download this. Can I downgrade in case im not digging Android P? Rooted and bootloader unlocked. I just got Oreo to my liking. Afraid a lot of apps not ready for PIE.
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Yes you can. It will require a full wipe and a clean fastboot back to 8.1, but it's possible :good:
Good wasn't sure if id get bricked like other phones for downgrading from a major update. 8.1 to 9.0
How do I update to android pie 9.0 from oreo 8.1 while being rooted. I would like to clean flash but don't know if i should do it in TWRP (since i have it installed) or if i should install and update directly from phone updates and then re-root the phone?
I know this might seem dumbfounded. Appreciate the help!
I think there's a guide on the magisk GitHub. Check there first.
I got through it.
factory reset and fastboot flashed everything
WillowTree said:
I got through it.
factory reset and fastboot flashed everything
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That's how I would do it.
One of the best things about Nexus / Google phones is the quick availability of the latest firmware and that one can go forwards AND backwards with versions.
I was rooted on 8.1 and got an update notification to pie. I took it, "knowing," it was gonna fail like all the previous updates. Much to my chagrin, it took! I was surprised to say the least. I was rooted again in less than half an hour...
hi, I'd like to know if there were any way I could revert back to marshmallow without bricking the device. I was thinking about rooting my phone, download the stock a520 6.0 rom zip file and flash it with the recovery menu. First I don't wanna brick it, second I'm not sure I can find some flashable zip file.
I did this with my old Motorola moto g 3 and never had any problems.
do you guys think it'll work and so where I could find those files? also if there's any other safe way to do it share it please!
Thanks in advance!
nubry said:
hi, I'd like to know if there were any way I could revert back to marshmallow without bricking the device. I was thinking about rooting my phone, download the stock a520 6.0 rom zip file and flash it with the recovery menu. First I don't wanna brick it, second I'm not sure I can find some flashable zip file.
I did this with my old Motorola moto g 3 and never had any problems.
do you guys think it'll work and so where I could find those files? also if there's any other safe way to do it share it please!
Thanks in advance!
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I don't think it will work because Samsung has anti rollback in its phones which prevents the bootloader from being downgraded. However, a system and boot flash might work. I don't know about the modem though.
Samsung is one of the few brands that implement it.
I don't really see the use though as it is quite possible to bootloop and if done incorrectly, could result in a hard brick.
nubry said:
hi, I'd like to know if there were any way I could revert back to marshmallow without bricking the device. I was thinking about rooting my phone, download the stock a520 6.0 rom zip file and flash it with the recovery menu. First I don't wanna brick it, second I'm not sure I can find some flashable zip file.
I did this with my old Motorola moto g 3 and never had any problems.
do you guys think it'll work and so where I could find those files? also if there's any other safe way to do it share it please!
Thanks in advance!
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Quick question...
Why would you want to?
I did this with my old Moto X Play and bricked it
iloveoreos said:
I don't think it will work because Samsung has anti rollback in its phones which prevents the bootloader from being downgraded. However, a system and boot flash might work. I don't know about the modem though.
Samsung is one of the few brands that implement it.
I don't really see the use though as it is quite possible to bootloop and if done incorrectly, could result in a hard brick.
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that is what I thought... I think the only real solution would be to find a custom Rom of the Stock 6.0 but untouched. It would not need the bootloader to be downgraded would it?
I really like samsung phones but I hate the way the treat costumers, it feels like being fooled.
Thank you for your reply though !
moozer said:
Quick question...
Why would you want to?
I did this with my old Moto X Play and bricked it
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When I bought my Moto g 2015 it was very fast and that was surprising. All the updates started to drain the battery and make the device work slower . I tried almost all the custom Rom possible and after flashing back the stock 5.1 out of the box version I have to admit they wanted the device to become slow with all the updates.
Now when I received my A5 it was already running nougat. I think the best you can get from your phone is with the outbox version because everything is planned to be running perfectly so people buy it. For me even though it brings new features and stuff, update wont get you device any better.
So ya that's the reason I'd like to downgrade.
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that is what I thought... I think the only real solution would be to find a custom Rom of the Stock 6.0 but untouched. It would not need the bootloader to be downgraded would it?
I really like samsung phones but I hate the way the treat costumers, it feels like being fooled.
Thank you for your reply though !
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You could extract the system and boot out of the stock firmware, but I don't know if it's worth the risk.
nubry said:
When I bought my Moto g 2015 it was very fast and that was surprising. All the updates started to drain the battery and make the device work slower . I tried almost all the custom Rom possible and after flashing back the stock 5.1 out of the box version I have to admit they wanted the device to become slow with all the updates.
Now when I received my A5 it was already running nougat. I think the best you can get from your phone is with the outbox version because everything is planned to be running perfectly so people buy it. For me even though it brings new features and stuff, update wont get you device any better.
So ya that's the reason I'd like to downgrade.
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Motorola got in trouble for that. Others too. It's illegal now, so you should leave out that theory.
I've had only positive experiences with my last 5 smartphones. Upgrading does precisely that...makes it better. An OEM would not produce an upgrade without testing it. That's why we had a better experience with Nougat and even better with Oreo.
What do you do differently with Oreo than you did with Nougat?
Hi. I own a moto g5 xt1670, stock nougat with some security patch I believe. I'd like to stay on nougat for a while, so I guess I must root, then freeze the updater app because it's turning pretty annoying. The question is...can I install Oreo Ota with the device rooted in case I want in the future?
I'm not planning to install roms, so I prefer to stay on locked BL.
Many thanks.
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mortadelax said:
Hi. I own a moto g5 xt1670, stock nougat with some security patch I believe. I'd like to stay on nougat for a while, so I guess I must root, then freeze the updater app because it's turning pretty annoying. The question is...can I install Oreo Ota with the device rooted in case I want in the future?
I'm not planning to install roms, so I prefer to stay on locked BL.
Many thanks.
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Well to start with you need to unlock your bootloader if you want to root your device
And otas can only be installed on a totally unmodified device so you would need to flash stock firmware via fastboot (and lock the bootloader to make sure the images are totally unmodified) before any ota is attempted to installed
Thanks both of you for the reply!
So, let's say I'm not interested in Oreo Ota, how can I stop the upgrade spam notification? I guess I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the updater app. Is that correct? In case I want Oreo in the future I guess I can install some rom...
Does this make sense? I've read bad reviews about oreo and battery drain. This is my mother's phone. I don't want any possible problem. Nougat is just fine, and works well.
Thanks a lot. I'll be waiting for your reply.
mortadelax said:
Thanks both of you for the reply!
So, let's say I'm not interested in Oreo Ota, how can I stop the upgrade spam notification? I guess I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the updater app. Is that correct? In case I want Oreo in the future I guess I can install some rom...
Does this make sense? I've read bad reviews about oreo and battery drain. This is my mother's phone. I don't want any possible problem. Nougat is just fine, and works well.
Thanks a lot. I'll be waiting for your reply.
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Force stopping system update app (you need to show system apps in app list) will temporarily remove the notification until restart or the app starts again
And as far as I'm aware there's nothing wrong with oreo - Always makes me laugh when people say they have read something but provide no source or context
Hi everyone!
I've updated my z2 force to pie, and i wish I hadn't. Is it possible to downgrade back to Oreo and how? If possible, i wouldn't want to loose my gpay/banking apps, so i presume I'd have to relock the bootloader after downgrading. Sorry, newb here.
Thanks.
crnispot said:
Hi everyone!
I've updated my z2 force to pie, and i wish I hadn't. Is it possible to downgrade back to Oreo and how? If possible, i wouldn't want to loose my gpay/banking apps, so i presume I'd have to relock the bootloader after downgrading. Sorry, newb here.
Thanks.
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Based on all of the things that have happened over the last couple of weeks with several users in this forum, it appears that there is no going back to Oreo from Pie. Once you have installed a Pie modem, so far, no one had come up with a way to get an Oreo modem back in the device and get one working. There may be hope in the future but it hasnt been worked out yet.
Hot tip, If you lock you bootloader after flashing Oreo and can no longer enable OEM Unlock as you cannot access internet... use Bluetooth Tether to other phone to access internet, then OEM Unlock is available again.