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one x heat

i dont know if it just with me
my hox become very hot when i use it to serf the net or whatsapp and instagram
even when i change the rom ARHD its still the same
my DHD was great and never heat up
any slice use the phone start to boil and yellow spots come out on the screen
need help

mmh5 said:
i dont know if it just with me
my hox become very hot when i use it to serf the net or whatsapp and instagram
even when i change the rom ARHD its still the same
my DHD was great and never heat up
any slice use the phone start to boil and yellow spots come out on the screen
need help
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i got the same problem, but with some more usage. I still use my DHD and I think its better than this oven.

omg
this problem need to be solved
i can use it like this
my DHD was much more better
if any one see this please help SOS

What rom are you using... what kernel etc..
On maximus with stock kernel I barely get heat...
Based on the VERY DETAILLED information in your comment
I can only recomend you install a CPU FAN and hardwire it to
the battery...

mmh5 said:
i dont know if it just with me
my hox become very hot when i use it to serf the net or whatsapp and instagram
even when i change the rom ARHD its still the same
my DHD was great and never heat up
any slice use the phone start to boil and yellow spots come out on the screen
need help
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Your comparing a DHD to a One X.... It's a quad core device *facepalm*...
So before you give up and call the One X a terrible phone (like the 500 rants this forum has) . We need much more information about your device.
1. Have you unlocked the bootloader?
2. Are you running a custom rom/kernel?
3. What base are you on?
4. How long have you had this phone? And how long have you had this problem?
Sent from the best HTC One X in the universe...

mmh5 said:
i dont know if it just with me
my hox become very hot when i use it to serf the net or whatsapp and instagram
even when i change the rom ARHD its still the same
my DHD was great and never heat up
any slice use the phone start to boil and yellow spots come out on the screen
need help
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Tw1tchy said:
Your comparing a DHD to a One X.... It's a quad core device *facepalm*...
So before you give up and call the One X a terrible phone (like the 500 rants this forum has) . We need much more information about your device.
1. Have you unlocked the bootloader?
2. Are you running a custom rom/kernel?
3. What base are you on?
4. How long have you had this phone? And how long have you had this problem?
Sent from the best HTC One X in the universe...
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Have you actually read his post? The one you are quoting?
1. As he has ARHD, yes he has
2. Yes he did ARHD
3. Lets say ARHD just for the fun
4. Irrelevant?
If the screen becomes yellow due to the heat, I would say this is hw problem as he tested different roms. UV might help, but the device should not become like this.
What I would be interested in, if he is not using it in direct sunlight on a beach with 40 degrees in the shadow. Even though I saw ppl say their devices survived that.
I am now in Egypt myself and even at night. With -125 UV. And the device still gets hot, red/green blinking on charge.
BUT I never got yellow spots coming out of the screen. And just cuz of that I would says something is wrong on hw level there.

P00r said:
What rom are you using... what kernel etc..
On maximus with stock kernel I barely get heat...
Based on the VERY DETAILLED information in your comment
I can only recomend you install a CPU FAN and hardwire it to
the battery...
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i flashed rom maximus but without the stock kernal and the temp still the same
im goning to try it now with the stock

mmh5 said:
i flashed rom maximus but without the stock kernal and the temp still the same
im goning to try it now with the stock
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try faux kernel and undervolt it and underclock it using system tuner or setcpu that will solve all your heat issues

I have exactly the same problem. Whenever i use my One X for navigation in the car (using Navigon) the battery drains more than the Kidigi Car Holder can charge. I already checked all advices that there are like:
- Kidigi Car Holder is charging with AC
- disabled 2 Cores
- UV all frequencies by -125mV
- running the phone in airplane mode
- disabling autobrightness
At the moment i´m running ARHD 9.3.2 with Faux 007m Kernel.
Could someone please help?

PAGOT said:
Have you actually read his post? The one you are quoting?
1. As he has ARHD, yes he has
2. Yes he did ARHD
3. Lets say ARHD just for the fun
4. Irrelevant?
If the screen becomes yellow due to the heat, I would say this is hw problem as he tested different roms. UV might help, but the device should not become like this.
What I would be interested in, if he is not using it in direct sunlight on a beach with 40 degrees in the shadow. Even though I saw ppl say their devices survived that.
I am now in Egypt myself and even at night. With -125 UV. And the device still gets hot, red/green blinking on charge.
BUT I never got yellow spots coming out of the screen. And just cuz of that I would says something is wrong on hw level there.
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PAGOT said:
Have you actually read his post? The one you are quoting?
1. As he has ARHD, yes he has
2. Yes he did ARHD
3. Lets say ARHD just for the fun
4. Irrelevant?
If the screen becomes yellow due to the heat, I would say this is hw problem as he tested different roms. UV might help, but the device should not become like this.
What I would be interested in, if he is not using it in direct sunlight on a beach with 40 degrees in the shadow. Even though I saw ppl say their devices survived that.
I am now in Egypt myself and even at night. With -125 UV. And the device still gets hot, red/green blinking on charge.
BUT I never got yellow spots coming out of the screen. And just cuz of that I would says something is wrong on hw level there.
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im not expert in these stuff i barely know how to flash a rom
i downloaded some roms and im going to try them
if there any app will help even if the phone performance will decrease i will use it

mmh5 said:
im not expert in these stuff i barely know how to flash a rom
i downloaded some roms and im going to try them
if there any app will help even if the phone performance will decrease i will use it
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If it's happening on 2 roms other ones won't help you.
For sure not customized sense ones.
You could compare sense vs cyanogenmod.
But still, the CPU is kernel controlled.
And remember always when you download a Rom it takes like a day to settle, syncing set ups and etc. So to test a Rom you need few days.
Just stick to a Rom for now. And try the advices we already gave you. Undervolting with lets say faux kernel etc.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

vivek_bhoj said:
try faux kernel and undervolt it and underclock it using system tuner or setcpu that will solve all your heat issues
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im going to flash the faux kernal now
kindly if you can give the values that i must set

OK... So far so good
I flash ARHD and the faux kernel
I also installed system tuner
In system tuner there is many settings & I don't know what to change
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PAGOT said:
If it's happening on 2 roms other ones won't help you.
For sure not customized sense ones.
You could compare sense vs cyanogenmod.
But still, the CPU is kernel controlled.
And remember always when you download a Rom it takes like a day to settle, syncing set ups and etc. So to test a Rom you need few days.
Just stick to a Rom for now. And try the advices we already gave you. Undervolting with lets say faux kernel etc.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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What to value I change???
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Install Hidden settings app from play store and in the newly created Power saver settings in the app drawer, disable "Reduce CPU cores" or something like this,(its the second option on the list, thats for sure )because basically your HOX runs on 1 core with 1 Ghz, but if you turn this power saver setting off, you will have a full 4 core perfomance, as it should be. This has solved me the heating problem a long time ago when i SEARCHED THIS FORUM, which option i gladly reccomend now to you!!!
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TripleD_HOX said:
Install Hidden settings app from play store and in the newly created Power saver settings in the app drawer, disable "Reduce CPU cores" or something like this,(its the second option on the list, thats for sure )because basically your HOX runs on 1 core with 1 Ghz, but if you turn this power saver setting off, you will have a full 4 core perfomance, as it should be. This has solved me the heating problem a long time ago when i SEARCHED THIS FORUM, which option i gladly reccomend now to you!!!
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usually when i open instagram or whatsapp it start heating
but now after 3 videos on youtube and texting still 32-34 C
before its reach 44c
im going to test this way tonight and will tell you any updates :fingers-crossed:
thanks a lot

I have this problem too, i have try this app but still overheating....
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with faux kernal and hidden setting my hox doesn't heat up like before
only once heat up when i force close some apps
but still much better the before :good:
i still want the value that i must change in system tuner
also i notice in system tuner the CPU didn't change at all
waiting for the values

try other roms
Before I face the same problem but after I change the ROM to rd miui, I think the heat still natural for me..
My advice try rd miui for ICS or jelly bean and try cm10 from trip droid ROM with new kernel 3.1.10 for jelly bean.
Now I am still try using trip droid ROM..so far so good about the heat..
Best regards
Ronny tri

mmh5 said:
with faux kernal and hidden setting my hox doesn't heat up like before
only once heat up when i force close some apps
but still much better the before :good:
i still want the value that i must change in system tuner
also i notice in system tuner the CPU didn't change at all
waiting for the values
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Im glad i could help. In system tuner at the voltages tap ONLY 2 Times the "-25mV" icon, and at the cpu, set the governor to interactive. I guarantee your HOX will freeze your hands while you're holdin It
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[Q] Core and frequency control according to temperature

My N2 makes me crazy when it gets warm.
When it reaches about 36 celsius degrees it starts with frequency limit of 800MHz.
The second step is making 2 cores offline and at last my gadget becomes limited to 2 cores at a max. of 500MHz.
It becomes almost unusable for me when in car. I use two navis in multiwindow (Waze and Sygic) and AutoGuard recording in background with FullHD and in about 5 minutes it's restricted hardly.
I know it's for safety reasons but I think it's too strict.
Is there a possibility to raise the thresholds of these by a few degrees?
What kernels support this?
There is a nice app called Android Tuner which is able to set these tresholds but it is for Qualcomm CPU-s only...
Thanks for any answers in advance!

le_vente said:
My N2 makes me crazy when it gets warm.
When it reaches about 36 celsius degrees it starts with frequency limit of 800MHz.
The second step is making 2 cores offline and at last my gadget becomes limited to 2 cores at a max. of 500MHz.
It becomes almost unusable for me when in car. I use two navis in multiwindow (Waze and Sygic) and AutoGuard recording in background with FullHD and in about 5 minutes it's restricted hardly.
I know it's for safety reasons but I think it's too strict.
Is there a possibility to raise the thresholds of these by a few degrees?
What kernels support this?
There is a nice app called Android Tuner which is able to set these tresholds but it is for Qualcomm CPU-s only...
Thanks for any answers in advance!
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You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..

Mate996 said:
You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
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Very helpful...
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Mate996 said:
You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
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Not exactly understand...
There must be a safe setting for it as with Perseus kernel the thresholds are higher, but not too much. I forgot to edit my question according my experiences with Perseus.
At least with Perseus I get a max of 1000MHz at most cases but it is not enough for me cause I use apps needing high resources.
Would You be so kind to write about the value to be changed in order to get higher thresholds?

If I understand you correctly. Then you could try trickster mod.
Or try saber kernel. I use this baked into the Jedi rom.
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3vo3d said:
If I understand you correctly. Then you could try trickster mod.
Or try saber kernel. I use this baked into the Jedi rom.
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
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Thank You for the advice!
Now I had some time so I'm on Saber kernel and just testing.
The testing is awesome till now: the phone is working more powerful with this kernel and doesn't get hot so soon. :good:
Oh, now there is something strange, the programs get FC-s...
The phone is on charger, I ran AutoGuard in the background in FullHD, Sygic and Waze in MultiWindow, VideoPlayer in popup with a FullHD video and SuperPlayer in popup with another FullHD video. It was extremely fine but after a few minutes the players collapsed and AutoGuard had an error. The system is stable anyway. It seems I have to restart phone now...
Edit: After restart I got an old problem back: Dropbox is unable to run again... I loved Perseus because of this, on Perseus this problem was away... I hope that I won't get the other issue back with my WiFi... And it seems, AutoGuard became stupid too... :crying:
I don't give up and keep on trying to make them ok.
But I can't find the thermal control feature in Trickster Mod Donation altough I have just a minute for it.
I am reading Trickster webpage to get ahead...
Question: Are You using Jedi ROM and have no thermal problems?
In that case I'm going to try that ROM, cause I'm on hunting for a ROM that works with no problems for me.
I tried some lately and till now Omega v18 was the best amongst them. I tried MIUI, ProBam, Hawkish in the last days and I get problems with all of them or had non-working applications and/or features which ones are essentials for me...
Edit: mmmmmmmm, as see there is no Jedi ROM for international N7100...

hey bro,
wow you seem to be a bit more advanced than me so maybe ive reached the limit of the advice i can give you.
However, if you inform me how to check for thermal problems i will surely do that and then report back.
the saber kernel to the best of my knowledge is underclocked so if you try to o/c it maybe that will prevent your fc's. I have read in the various threads, of which the community is very helpful, of some issues for heavy users due to the u/c.
Regarding the jedi rom i am a uk 7105 user and to the best of my knowledge i thought it would also work for international 7100 users?!?!
Here is the thread i use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
reading the op of that thread it would appear you are correct. I do know they are working on version 18 so maybe that will work for you. fingers crossed.

3vo3d said:
hey bro,
wow you seem to be a bit more advanced than me so maybe ive reached the limit of the advice i can give you.
However, if you inform me how to check for thermal problems i will surely do that and then report back.
the saber kernel to the best of my knowledge is underclocked so if you try to o/c it maybe that will prevent your fc's. I have read in the various threads, of which the community is very helpful, of some issues for heavy users due to the u/c.
Regarding the jedi rom i am a uk 7105 user and to the best of my knowledge i thought it would also work for international 7100 users?!?!
Here is the thread i use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
reading the op of that thread it would appear you are correct. I do know they are working on version 18 so maybe that will work for you. fingers crossed.
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Thank You for Your effort!
I'll keep on investigating for a solution.
Unfortunately the real test was horrible with Saber kernel, when I tested it in car the temperature got high soon and the thersholds were low again.
But it's a good idea to try o/c thank You very much!
I'll try it tomorrow, now I have to go to play Cod4... :laugh:
And I found that TWRP is recommended for Saber and a few minutes untouching after the restart so I'll try again.
Have a nice day!

you too bro, sorry i couldnt help more.
but if you post in the saber kernel thread there are some helpful and intelligent folks in there that may have a better solution for you.
enjoy cod

3vo3d said:
you too bro, sorry i couldnt help more.
but if you post in the saber kernel thread there are some helpful and intelligent folks in there that may have a better solution for you.
enjoy cod
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Thank You again!
I got some experiences with the newest Saber kernel and I like it 'cause the first kernel I can use 100MHz step with and using 300MHz step too.
It seemes to be good at battery consumption too. My only problem that this kernel doesn't support STweaks so I can't regulate charging voltages like I used to. Perhaps only Perseus kernel makes it possible as I can't get any other programs for it till now. Or NEAK kernel and the new versions of AGNi pureSTOCK kernel as I read their pages. I'll try them some day. But Perseus is my favourite.
I think it's important to say that the kernel isn't UC/OC by default so this doesn't make any problems and it's not UV-ed too.
I set min. to 100MHz and max. to 1920MHz to test and it's stable till now. I tried to Overvolt slightly and had no change on media programs behavior they don't like each other as I see.
Trickster Mod is nice 'cause it shows the CPU temperature which was helpful to understand this regulations of thermal control are needed.
When I tested it turned out that CPU is below 70 degrees while the battery temparuture is 'only' about 40 degrees.
So thanks for Your kind advises!

wow. Ok i think i understood most of your post. probably a little bit over my head but i need to learn.
I really like the new kernel im getting 1% battery drain an hour with the screen off which truly is unheard of for me,
The kernel runs real smooth apart from when i play asphalt 8. Or i should say it runs smooth playing the game until the phone tries to do something else. For example if it attempts to update a programme or if a message/email comes through. then the game just lags and i have to wait for the phone to stop multi tasking before the car starts to move normally again.
So im surprised to read you say the kernel isn't uc/uv by default??? I was pretty positive it was. But i dont know for sure and im probably not clever enough to figure it out lol.
I wonder what settings i would need to increase to aid the phone in its multi tasking? Also there must be some kind of programme we could use that would test our specific phone/cpu and tell us which settings it would prefer. As i believe each phone will run slightly different?
You are right i remember reading the kernel does not work with stweaks.
I wish i could work with you and figure out how to optimise our settings but i simply dont have the skill set.
I presume you used trickster to overvolt slightly?

3vo3d said:
wow. Ok i think i understood most of your post. probably a little bit over my head but i need to learn.
I really like the new kernel im getting 1% battery drain an hour with the screen off which truly is unheard of for me,
The kernel runs real smooth apart from when i play asphalt 8. Or i should say it runs smooth playing the game until the phone tries to do something else. For example if it attempts to update a programme or if a message/email comes through. then the game just lags and i have to wait for the phone to stop multi tasking before the car starts to move normally again.
So im surprised to read you say the kernel isn't uc/uv by default??? I was pretty positive it was. But i dont know for sure and im probably not clever enough to figure it out lol.
I wonder what settings i would need to increase to aid the phone in its multi tasking? Also there must be some kind of programme we could use that would test our specific phone/cpu and tell us which settings it would prefer. As i believe each phone will run slightly different?
You are right i remember reading the kernel does not work with stweaks.
I wish i could work with you and figure out how to optimise our settings but i simply dont have the skill set.
I presume you used trickster to overvolt slightly?
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No, I didn't overvolt at last. But once I tried and didn't helped on my problems.
Unfortunately now I'm back on Perseus kernel again 'cause some issues with Saber. It became crazy every time and locked my CPU on 160MHz only and only reboot helped.
The other issue was the stuck system server process what was active all night and didn't stop hard work.
Now I'm on reading the kernel's page till I get cleverer on it... then I perhaps try it again 'cause I liked it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260397&page=5

how to disable CPU cores

I want to know how to disable CPU cores to save power. It was possible on my nexus 5. but on my nexus 6p and now on my htc 10, I'm not sure if it's possible. I read that it's would need a kernel rewrite or something along those lines.
So does anyone know how to do this? I'm running latest LeeDroid ROM if that helps. thanks :good:

That's what I also wanted to know about the 10.
I had the mind before and there I could run with only one core, if not needed the other three cores. But if I needed power, the 4 cores are running.
It would be great, if there is an option in kernel settings to run all the cores only if they are really needed.
So the 10 is only a battery eater... Especially with sense roms I don't come through the day without charging.
On CM 14 or AOSP the battery is much more better, but with better core management it would be famous.

anyone got any info on this?

less cores doesn't mean better battery life, look at u11, "octa-core" and getting better battery life than 10 and anything else. it's een like if you have less cores, the cores which are online have to do all the work and might end up with locked max freq which will result in heat and more drain. so just keep the core control like it is and maybe just underclock

drago10029 said:
I want to know how to disable CPU cores to save power. It was possible on my nexus 5. but on my nexus 6p and now on my htc 10, I'm not sure if it's possible. I read that it's would need a kernel rewrite or something along those lines.
So does anyone know how to do this? I'm running latest LeeDroid ROM if that helps. thanks :good:
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It is possible to disable cores with the custom kernel, and I believe force them to remain off at boot, but the HTC 10 uses a big/little cluster CPU setup and disabling cores isn't how you want to conserve power in my humble opinion.
The HTC 10 and some other modern devices uses BIG.little core ARM processor technology.
So the hardware and software is optimized to use all the cores to chase the best battery life and performance. I'm guessing that unless it's very specific usage scenarios, if you manage to force disable the cores with a custom kernel, you'll see both performance and battery life drop.
I would highly recommend installing a custom kernel, and tweaking the kernel settings while letting the hardware make full use of the BIG.little cluster system for efficiency. For high performance, I'd recommend one of the sense based kernel's that uses the HTC PnP Manager system. Something like Flar's ElementalX or TBalden's cleanslate kernel.
For battery efficiency, since you're really wanting to customize things for the best efficiency and battery life, try out the Helix kernel, by zeroinfinity. It's using a technology to optimize control of the processor based on "EAS" technology. EAS stands for "Energy Aware Scheduling" and zeroinfinity has written his "Helix Engine" to control the power profiles and thus power consumption of different apps, and you can customize the profiles to put any other apps you have in the profiles you want them.
This was a very basic and non technical summary, you can find tons of info on the kernels in the OP of each kernel thread. I would recommend making a backup with TWRP and trying both ElementalX and Helix kernels and seeing what works best in your usage scenario, before you start trying to force disable cores.
Here's a quick article I found on google, I'm at work and only briefly skimmed it, so no promises it's any good, but you can google BIG.little procs on Android mobile devices to find more imformation. https://community.arm.com/processors/b/blog/posts/ten-things-to-know-about-big-little

CharliesTheMan said:
It is possible to disable cores with the custom kernel, and I believe force them to remain off at boot, but the HTC 10 uses a big/little cluster CPU setup and disabling cores isn't how you want to conserve power in my humble opinion.
The HTC 10 and some other modern devices uses BIG.little core ARM processor technology.
So the hardware and software is optimized to use all the cores to chase the best battery life and performance. I'm guessing that unless it's very specific usage scenarios, if you manage to force disable the cores with a custom kernel, you'll see both performance and battery life drop.
I would highly recommend installing a custom kernel, and tweaking the kernel settings while letting the hardware make full use of the BIG.little cluster system for efficiency. For high performance, I'd recommend one of the sense based kernel's that uses the HTC PnP Manager system. Something like Flar's ElementalX or TBalden's cleanslate kernel.
For battery efficiency, since you're really wanting to customize things for the best efficiency and battery life, try out the Helix kernel, by zeroinfinity. It's using a technology to optimize control of the processor based on "EAS" technology. EAS stands for "Energy Aware Scheduling" and zeroinfinity has written his "Helix Engine" to control the power profiles and thus power consumption of different apps, and you can customize the profiles to put any other apps you have in the profiles you want them.
This was a very basic and non technical summary, you can find tons of info on the kernels in the OP of each kernel thread. I would recommend making a backup with TWRP and trying both ElementalX and Helix kernels and seeing what works best in your usage scenario, before you start trying to force disable cores.
Here's a quick article I found on google, I'm at work and only briefly skimmed it, so no promises it's any good, but you can google BIG.little procs on Android mobile devices to find more imformation. https://community.arm.com/processors/b/blog/posts/ten-things-to-know-about-big-little
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was a good read, thanks! based on the quote from below from that website sounds like the little cores can drive the most battery savings the most .... which is my goal.
The LITTLE cores can be implemented to target lower leakage and a more moderate performance point, independently from the physical implementation of the big cores that are often tuned for higher frequency.
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and seeing that you were a tester for helix htc 10 kernel, is it designed to with stock based ROM or just any magisk based ROMs? I did see that ASOP is not supported.

drago10029 said:
was a good read, thanks! based on the quote from below from that website sounds like the little cores can drive the most battery savings the most .... which is my goal.
and seeing that you were a tester for helix htc 10 kernel, is it designed to with stock based ROM or just any magisk based ROMs? I did see that ASOP is not supported.
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Stock based sense roms. I just use it with regular rooted builds of leedroid or viper. It works with magisk and has been built to be fully compatible, however I use it for my normal modded system rooted sense based rom with supersu. I don't use or set up magisk, I'm still kind of old school.
But if you were to use magisk, @ZeroInfinity is running magisk as his daily since the last several builds, and I don't believe it's got any bugs or anything that doesn't work in the magisk build. One of the other team members @p50kombi knows a lot about magisk if you need to know anything further, I just have very limited magisk knowledge I'm general.
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CharliesTheMan said:
Stock based sense roms. I just use it with regular rooted builds of leedroid or viper. It works with magisk and has been built to be fully compatible, however I use it for my normal modded system rooted sense based rom with supersu. I don't use or set up magisk, I'm still kind of old school.
But if you were to use magisk, @ZeroInfinity is running magisk as his daily since the last several builds, and I don't believe it's got any bugs or anything that doesn't work in the magisk build. One of the other team members @p50kombi knows a lot about magisk if you need to know anything further, I just have very limited magisk knowledge I'm general.
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magisk version works same as the version which writes to system

CharliesTheMan said:
Stock based sense roms. I just use it with regular rooted builds of leedroid or viper. It works with magisk and has been built to be fully compatible, however I use it for my normal modded system rooted sense based rom with supersu. I don't use or set up magisk, I'm still kind of old school.
But if you were to use magisk, @ZeroInfinity is running magisk as his daily since the last several builds, and I don't believe it's got any bugs or anything that doesn't work in the magisk build. One of the other team members @p50kombi knows a lot about magisk if you need to know anything further, I just have very limited magisk knowledge I'm general.
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Great I also use supersu not magisk, probably same old school thing...also too tough getting things to play nice with magisk IMO. So for supersu do i just install v012 r1 systemless kernel and it should just work w/ leedoird? did you notice any functions on lee droid not working?
also do you underclock? recommend any kernel managers?

drago10029 said:
Great I also use supersu not magisk, probably same old school thing...also too tough getting things to play nice with magisk IMO. So for supersu do i just install v012 r1 systemless kernel and it should just work w/ leedoird? did you notice any functions on lee droid not working?
also do you underclock? recommend any kernel managers?
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It's version 17, you'll download it from this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73068312&postcount=1216 , sorry that link you had shouldn't be there, but systemless is the magisk version but now there's only one version, and the Aroma installer will let you choose the normal non-magisk version.
In the installer, there's a question that asks about installing custom scripts, I use the @ZeroInfinity script, the one from @roger81 and @TotallyAnxious are good too so you can't really go wrong, but I recommend starting with zero's, and you can reflash to experiment once you get going good with it. Rogers is great for battery life but his is a little more custom and extreme, which is why I'd start.
I use EXKM kernel manager, but I really recommend not changing many settings at first. Definitely leave the governor default with this kernel. I would run it like it comes out of the box, and see how your apps and battery life goes, and if you have apps causing a lot of drainage, maybe add them to the helix engine profiles before you start changing clock speeds.
You'll notice with EXKM the core frequencies reported in real time will look different from how it looks with a stock based kernel, but don't let that scare you.
My only other recommendation is if you use any other power saving apps like greenify or doze (I don't use any of them personally but some do) I would first get used to the kernel without them, so you kind of have a better idea of baseline.

CharliesTheMan said:
It's version 17, you'll download it from this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73068312&postcount=1216 , sorry that link you had shouldn't be there, but systemless is the magisk version but now there's only one version, and the Aroma installer will let you choose the normal non-magisk version.
In the installer, there's a question that asks about installing custom scripts, I use the @ZeroInfinity script, the one from @roger81 and @TotallyAnxious are good too so you can't really go wrong, but I recommend starting with zero's, and you can reflash to experiment once you get going good with it. Rogers is great for battery life but his is a little more custom and extreme, which is why I'd start.
I use EXKM kernel manager, but I really recommend not changing many settings at first. Definitely leave the governor default with this kernel. I would run it like it comes out of the box, and see how your apps and battery life goes, and if you have apps causing a lot of drainage, maybe add them to the helix engine profiles before you start changing clock speeds.
You'll notice with EXKM the core frequencies reported in real time will look different from how it looks with a stock based kernel, but don't let that scare you.
My only other recommendation is if you use any other power saving apps like greenify or doze (I don't use any of them personally but some do) I would first get used to the kernel without them, so you kind of have a better idea of baseline.
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Bonus points for being the least confusing AROMA installer I have used! and I used zero's as well. thanks for all your help! and one last thing.. isn't doze built into android nougat? or am I highly misinformed.

drago10029 said:
Bonus points for being the least confusing AROMA installer I have used! and I used zero's as well. thanks for all your help! and one last thing.. isn't doze built into android nougat? or am I highly misinformed.
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It is you're correct, but there's a lot of "super doze" and dozingest doze around" sort of mods and tweaks people use, it's the extra modified stuff I would avoid for now, until baseline is established. However once you get things ironed out, @RogerF81 (if I spelled that Right) has tons of good info on further tweaking. He once tweaked his battery life to something like 7 or 8 hours screen on time with the Helix EAS kernel. That's just showing off.
Glad you like the Aroma installer, it nearly killed the poor dev trying to get it set up when he first started implementing it, he still probably throws keyboards if I ask for a black theme lol.
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Upgraded to Android 10, garbage battery life

Hi,
I flashed stock android 10 image after it was released a few days ago and the battery life is GARBAGE. Any ideas on how to fix this? I know adaptive means it should get better after a few days, but I don't really see this.

Battery life for me is pretty horrible, I can't get 2 hours of screen time doing simple things like taking photos, reading the news and email and some book reading. I don't even play games, I would say processing of HDR photos is the most intense thing I've done. I updated on Tuesday and battery life has not improved.

I had the same terrible battery experience with android 10 stock until I changed kernels. Assuming you are rooted, you can install Ex Kernel Manager, then go to the ElementalX tab and click to check for update and it will give you the option to download and flash Elemental X v. 5.05 for pixel xl android 10. It will flash the new kernel for you and then ask if you would like to reboot. Once you reboot you can change governors and many kernel settings. Currently I am at 54% with over 3hrs screen on time and average about 15 hours per charge with 6 or more hours screen on time. This is at least double what I was getting on the stock kernel.

matrix0027 said:
I had the same terrible battery experience with android 10 stock until I changed kernels. Assuming you are rooted, you can install Ex Kernel Manager, then go to the ElementalX tab and click to check for update and it will give you the option to download and flash Elemental X v. 5.05 for pixel xl android 10. It will flash the new kernel for you and then ask if you would like to reboot. Once you reboot you can change governors and many kernel settings. Currently I am at 54% with over 3hrs screen on time and average about 15 hours per charge with 6 or more hours screen on time. This is at least double what I was getting on the stock kernel.
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Is there a free alternative to ex kernel manager?

@H0wdy
Smart pack kernel manager available on xda here it is also frequently updated not my work just so you know
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-smartpack-kernel-manager-t3854717/amp/

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@H0wdy
Smart pack kernel manager available on xda here it is also frequently updated not my work just so you know
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-smartpack-kernel-manager-t3854717/amp/
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I installed it and changed cpu governor to power saving. No difference.

H0wdy said:
I installed it and changed cpu governor to power saving. No difference.
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Actually, even if I do apply on boot, is resetting governor to sched. Hmm

I don't see a real battery difference switching to powersave, just a performance difference.
I didn't actually switch the kernel, though. That's with the included kernel.
The battery life really is awful. Any ideas?

Changed to Elemental.
Set governors to Elemental.
NO improvement in battery.

H0wdy said:
Changed to Elemental.
Set governors to Elemental.
NO improvement in battery.
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here are my settings on Elemental. *note under cpu, I have to manually disable perfd after every reboot as the setting doesn't stick but everything else where the apply on reboot is highlighted works automatically. Battery is noticibly better with perfd and core control disabled.

smoka206 said:
Battery life for me is pretty horrible, I can't get 2 hours of screen time doing simple things like taking photos, reading the news and email and some book reading. I don't even play games, I would say processing of HDR photos is the most intense thing I've done. I updated on Tuesday and battery life has not improved.
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That's awesome! but, does it have significant impact on performance compared to stock kernel? I'd like to balance out performance and battery life.

I wiped the phone and installed 10.
No improvement with battery.
Also, now I have the problem of my messaging and email apps don't update unless I manually open them. and sensor seems to be messed up to where if you tap twice on phone, you don't see clock, and picking up phone doesn't show notifications, despite these options being turned on. I know there is a bug on this.

For what it's worth, I was on the Q betas, and battery life was similar to what I was getting on pie. Then once the official update installed, battery went to garbage even after several days. I ended up downgrading to Oreo leaving the bootloader unlocked, but installing elemental x kernel so that I'd still pass safety net. I had heard before that Oreo had better battery life than pie.
Things improved after that, but I know that a downgrade like this won't be an option for most people.
Edit: also should mention that I've underclocked the CPU using the installer for the ex kernel which has also given me a slight boost in battery life. Don't really notice any performance difference for my usage.

where to dowload elemental 5.05 .img ? i can only get the .zip file but i have no way to flash it.
i have root

hfmls said:
where to dowload elemental 5.05 .img ? i can only get the .zip file but i have no way to flash it.
i have root
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I used ex kernel manager to flash it and then rebooted but it's a paid app. for a free app you could try flashify which is an app that can flash kernels and recoveries. I haven't used it in a long time to flash a kernel so I make no guarantees but it has worked well for me in the past.

How much did you underclock? I went back to 8.1 and battery life is much improved.

Stock seems fine to me 6hr sot on lte off charger for 17 hr. But did replace battery a year ago

mbiscuits said:
How much did you underclock? I went back to 8.1 and battery life is much improved.
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Hey, I assume you're asking me. I underclocked to 1440 for the small cores (down from 1593), and 1900 for the big cores (down from stock 2150). The aroma installer has a few values to choose from, so you can try experimenting a bit. The values I used represent about a 10% drop from stock speeds.

NZedPred said:
Hey, I assume you're asking me. I underclocked to 1440 for the small cores (down from 1593), and 1900 for the big cores (down from stock 2150). The aroma installer has a few values to choose from, so you can try experimenting a bit. The values I used represent about a 10% drop from stock speeds.
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Yes I was asking you, sorry for some reason it didn't reply to your comment. Thank you, I'm going to experiment and see how it goes. Are you doing anything else to improve battery life?

mbiscuits said:
Yes I was asking you, sorry for some reason it didn't reply to your comment. Thank you, I'm going to experiment and see how it goes. Are you doing anything else to improve battery life?
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The biggest battery drain I have is keeping WiFi on. So I created some tasker profiles to turn off WiFi 2 minutes after the screen goes off, and back on when the screen goes on. It also only turns off if it's not plugged in. Still not perfect, but works well enough for me.

Horrible battery life all of a sudden on 10.0.7

Am I the only one who is all of a sudden having horrible battery life on 10.0.7?
Used to get 6-7 hrs of SOT, now I am getting around 2. Cant think of any changes to my apps or usage history
1905 verizon in USA

Custom kernel?

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Custom kernel?
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Yes, have been using the EK kernel manager with just default settings.

It's due to OnePlus brain service. Search in the forum for it and you'll find a couple of ways to stop it.

rohmbd said:
It's due to OnePlus brain service. Search in the forum for it and you'll find a couple of ways to stop it.
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thanks. Seems like that is very hard to do. I might just disable the custom kernel. Honestly the only reason I installed it was so that I could change the vibration intensity. If anyone knows of another way to do that outside of custom kernel manager I would be all for it!

I just flashed a magisk module
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Cowbell_Guy said:
thanks. Seems like that is very hard to do. I might just disable the custom kernel. Honestly the only reason I installed it was so that I could change the vibration intensity. If anyone knows of another way to do that outside of custom kernel manager I would be all for it!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/help/update-to-10-3-0-battery-drain-t4026327/amp/

I also have extreme battery drain especially when using the phone. Idle it uses not much blatter, when using I get two hours Sot.
I also have ExKernelManager with default kernel because it fixed my WiFi issue and the phone sleeps as a baby at night.
Regards ysco..

ysco said:
I also have extreme battery drain especially when using the phone. Idle it uses not much blatter, when using I get two hours Sot.
I also have ExKernelManager with default kernel because it fixed my WiFi issue and the phone sleeps as a baby at night.
Regards ysco..
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sounds like the issue is probably the kernel then. Im going to just go back to stock I think

As I read in the forum it is related to oos version 1.0.0.3 and oos 1.0.0.7 and not kernel related.
I flashed the fix mentioned in the thread but no luck for me. Cluster 3 remains on 2999 MHZ and CPU tmp still on 50+.
Seems flashing to build 1.0.0.6 is the only way to fix this issue.
Edit: I just set the max CPU from cluster 3 to lowest settings and the CPU dropped right away and temp is now steady around 30/35 degrees. For me a temporary solution till next oos update.
Regards ysco..

I got the same issue. Getting not even 2h SOT. No custom kernel here, just basic OS with darkmode on & on WIFI connection.
(Currently 1:28h screen usage at 29% battery left)
Any fix in sight for this?

steigi89 said:
I got the same issue. Getting not even 2h SOT. No custom kernel here, just basic OS with darkmode on & on WIFI connection.
(Currently 1:28h screen usage at 29% battery left)
Any fix in sight for this?
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Obviously a widespread issue... I think next step is for us to take it to OnePlus forums and their tech support

Cowbell_Guy said:
Obviously a widespread issue... I think next step is for us to take it to OnePlus forums and their tech support
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Phone is almost unusable for me now with such crappy battery life

Just install arter97 kernel, worked for me and clusters are running nicely now and CPU temp is low.
Battery life is improved now because cluster 3 is not hanging on 2999mhz anymore.
Just download the kernel from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...development/arter97-kernel-oneplus-7-t3952578
Just flash in your favorite kernel manager the new kernel, magisk will be preserved. First boot takes some time after flashed the kernel.
Regards ysco..

ysco said:
Just install arter97 kernel, worked for me and clusters are running nicely now and CPU temp is low.
Battery life is improved now because cluster 3 is not hanging on 2999mhz anymore.
Just download the kernel from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...development/arter97-kernel-oneplus-7-t3952578
Just flash in your favorite kernel manager the new kernel, magisk will be preserved. First boot takes some time after flashed the kernel.
Regards ysco..
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thanks for the advice, interesting that it worked. I will give it a try. Seems like that kernel was just updated this week

ysco said:
Just install arter97 kernel, worked for me and clusters are running nicely now and CPU temp is low.
Battery life is improved now because cluster 3 is not hanging on 2999mhz anymore.
Just download the kernel from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...development/arter97-kernel-oneplus-7-t3952578
Just flash in your favorite kernel manager the new kernel, magisk will be preserved. First boot takes some time after flashed the kernel.
Regards ysco..
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Wow. You were Right. That kernel fixed everything.
Has that kernel been your daily driver? I think I'm sold on it now!

Cowbell_Guy said:
Wow. You were Right. That kernel fixed everything.
Has that kernel been your daily driver? I think I'm sold on it now!
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Glad it also worked for you to.
Well i was testing and reading on the forums about the drain because I only got two hours of Sot because of cluster issue. And started testing different kernels and this one fixed everything and is my daily kernel now. Battery is improved with 90% now I have almost 3 hours Sot and 70% battery left on the first run after installing this kernel.
Regards ysco..

Just a update with the used kernel I discribed earlier.
7 hour Sot and 10% left, never had such good battery on my former oneplus devices then I have on the 7t now. So no issues anymore with battery drain.
Regards ysco..

ysco said:
Just a update with the used kernel I discribed earlier.
7 hour Sot and 10% left, never had such good battery on my former oneplus devices then I have on the 7t now. So no issues anymore with battery drain.
Regards ysco..
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Mine is the exact same

Clearing cache and dalvik fixed the issue completely for me.

SFCurley said:
Clearing cache and dalvik fixed the issue completely for me.
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How did you do that? I don't know how without TWRP