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It seems that Superuser has problems with Nexus 4.0.4, SuperSu is running more smoothly with this rom, did anyone have the same problem if so help
naelmnael said:
It seems that Superuser has problems with Nexus 4.0.4, SuperSu is running more smoothly with this rom, did anyone have the same problem if so help
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Thats the first I'm hearing of problems.. ChainsDD SU works great for me!
while installing rom manager and flashing the recovery to make rom manager work it stucks after the download and can t get superuser grant and that on stock firmware. SuperSu did not have that problem, but i prefer using Superuser that is why i asked.
Weird when i have uninstalled the light flow led control application the problem i had with superuser was fixed
I've had zero problems ever with superuser and I'm also using LightFlow
have you tried booting into CWM recovery and fixing permissions?
are you running a rooted rom?
I have never even once had the slightest problem with ChainsDD's superuser. It has never failed me whatsoever in any aspect and I find it to be the best superuser management app there is.
I have made the switch to SuperSU as a ROM I flash had it. Like the featuresm, speed, and the icon is better ;-).
They both do the same. Just a matter of preference.
I tried supersu for a week, on stock. It seemed to allow access faster than superuser.
Just flashed cm9 nightly 2 days ago. I will probably be checking supersu on this setup in a few days to see if the same holds true.
For my purposes, many of the features of both are superfluous. Nice to have, but I really only rely on it to grant proper access. So I can't speak about the feature list... but I'll go on record saying su was granted faster by supersu.
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The feature I like the most on SuperSU is the OTA Survival update (which is unfortunately available only on pro).
naelmnael said:
while installing rom manager and flashing the recovery to make rom manager work it stucks after the download and can t get superuser grant and that on stock firmware. SuperSu did not have that problem, but i prefer using Superuser that is why i asked.
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I also have never had that problem, and I have LF installed as well.
lex25288 said:
The feature I like the most on SuperSU is the OTA Survival update (which is unfortunately available only on pro).
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OTA Root Keeper does the "survival" feature and its a free app. I think its by the same dev.
Anyways I will prob never switch from SU, its always been good to me, I have the Elite version, and I see no benefit of SuperSU.
It's not by the same dev.
Anyway I prefer using SuperSU because it's updated more often.
lex25288 said:
It's not by the same dev.
Anyway I prefer using SuperSU because it's updated more often.
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Improvements are nice, but updates for the sake of updates, is like fixing something that is not broken.
I paid for superuser elite, all the features work, what more can I ask for?
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Ok, so I got my note 3 Monday afternoon and had it rooted shortly thereafter. I used the cf-auto root method cause custom recoveries were still kinda iffy. I installed xposed and various modules until one of them ended up bootlooping me. No problem right, just flash the xposed disabler thingy. I do that and somehow it breaks root. So I re-root. Knox steps in with the app shutdown message. I try again, same thing. Long story short I've tried every root method available, cwm, twerp, cf-auto. My knox counter is tripped and it says I'm modified. Supersu runs but knox pretty much disables it before it can start. It's like I'm only partially rooted. Can't get knox to leave me alone. Trying to make root work again without odining back to stock. Any suggestions?
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Mr. Gravity said:
Ok, so I got my note 3 Monday afternoon and had it rooted shortly thereafter. I used the cf-auto root method cause custom recoveries were still kinda iffy. I installed xposed and various modules until one of them ended up bootlooping me. No problem right, just flash the xposed disabler thingy. I do that and somehow it breaks root. So I re-root. Knox steps in with the app shutdown message. I try again, same thing. Long story short I've tried every root method available, cwm, twerp, cf-auto. My knox counter is tripped and it says I'm modified. Supersu runs but knox pretty much disables it before it can start. It's like I'm only partially rooted. Can't get knox to leave me alone. Trying to make root work again without odining back to stock. Any suggestions?
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Flash the stock rooted ROM with Knox removed...or if you can get titanium backup to work uninstall the knox.apk I think there are 4 of them
In terminal
Su
Pm disable com.sec.knox.seandroid
Thanks guys for all your help. I ended up Odining back to stock then re-rooting with cf-auto. Fixed everything and I didn't even have to reinstall all my apps again! Took 15 minutes to fix something I've been working at for the last 15 hours! *facepalm* Smh... Anyways I appreciate y'all.
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This has been replaced by Universal Root de la Vega!
Question & Answer
"Root de la Vega" What kind of name is that?
It's named after Ralph de la Vega, CEO of AT&T Mobility.
Can I flash custom recovery/kernel/rom without tripping KNOX flags?
No, Flashing a custom ROM will trip the flag
No, Flashing a custom Kernel will trip the flag
No, Flashing a custom Recovery will trip the flag
Will this set a tripped KNOX flag 0x1 back to 0x0?
No.
Can you help me with the drivers?
No, but you can head over here for help with drivers.
How do I get into download mode?
Method 1: adb reboot download
Method 2: Pull the battery out, unplug the usb cable, reinsert the battery. Hold Volume Down + Home + Power. Follow the instructions on the screen.
Will rooting or downgrading or flashing stock trip the Knox flags?
No, KNOX flags will not be tripped!
Will root survive a factory reset?
Yes, it does.
Will root survive an OTA update?
The Sprint Note 3 has survived an OTA update, you only need to perform the sdcard steps again to get root. However, you should NOT take OTA updates, it is possible for them to patch the root method with an OTA update.
Do I need have to fully wipe my phone when rooting?
Yes. If you don't you will get lots of nasty force closes. I have yet to find a way around it.
Does Xposed Framework work?
Yes, it has been updated to work fully with the Note 3.
Will rooting report system as custom and display an unlocked lock on the initial boot screen?
Yes. It can be removed by installing Xposed Framework with Wanam Xposed and enabling Security hacks > Fake system status.
Titanium Backup is giving me problems, how can I fix it?
Check out this thread. If you are still having issues, please take your concerns to the dev, they are not related to rooting.
How do I open a 7z file?
With 7zip or IZArc!
Can I do this on OS X/Linux?
No, not until heimdall is updated to support the Note 3.
Can I unroot?
Yes, use SuperSU full unroot option or flash stock.
I am getting a "Prevention Information" popup after running a root app, how do I disable it?
From terminal emulator or adb shell as root, run; pm disable com.sec.knox.seandroid
Or freeze the Knox apps with Titanium Backup.
I am getting Force Closes after flashing, how can I fix it?
Make sure you are flashing the CSC file! If you are, try flashing AP and CSC separately.
Good stuff. did this yesterday and it worked like a charm.
Thank you so much!
just to confirm, i can remove/freeze system apps, run ad blocker, xposed, etc, with just root, right? I have never not fully "unlocked" a device and just stayed with the stock ROM. So just want to confirm before using this. And thanks btw for your hard work on this.
And one last one...Im pretty sure I wont be able to get OTA's so how would one go about updating once an OTA has been released without tripping knox?
EDIT: I just saw the 2nd post with all the FAQ...some reason it didnt show before until after I posted. But still wondering about the OTAs
droidkevlar said:
just to confirm, i can remove/freeze system apps, run ad blocker, xposed, etc, with just root, right? I have never not fully "unlocked" a device and just stayed with the stock ROM. So just want to confirm before using this. And thanks btw for your hard work on this.
And one last one...Im pretty sure I wont be able to get OTA's so how would one go about updating once an OTA has been released without tripping knox?
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You can do all of that fun stuff with root
I am unsure on the OTAs, haven't had any roll out yet.
I can also confirm, worked like a charm. Did it today, and didn't lose any data. Phone was how it was pre root, but with added SU goodness.
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Hey designgears,
Nice to see you're still at it. Your old Cognition ROM (eclair iirc) was one of the first ROMs I ran on my SGS1 Captivate, years ago, before I settled on CyanogenMod. Didn't see you in SGS3-land, but here you are again with the Note3. Hey-ohhhh.
Thanks.
Rooted through this method today. It worked like a charm. Now my Note 3 feels invincible. Thank you!
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Ok. Here we go. I've been on android for a long time and never heard of KNOX. What the hell is this and do we need it?
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EDIT: I forgot--Google is my friend. Nvm
I'm sorry if this is too off topic but, while it IS wonderful to have a root method like this and I'm VERY grateful for it, most of what I read online states that a custom recovery will mess with knox and cause issues. I dint know if I could keep an android phone and not flash custom roms! I'm still within my return window with t mobile (I'm coming from Sprint) and I'm actually thinking about trading for a nexus 4. Hope we get a functioning recovery soon!
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Any difference between this and the root method from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
Any reason for someone who has rooted using the other method to redo it with this one?
Thanks
hdad2 said:
Any difference between this and the root method from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
Any reason for someone who has rooted using the other method to redo it with this one?
Thanks
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Same thing
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hdad2 said:
Any difference between this and the root method from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
Any reason for someone who has rooted using the other method to redo it with this one?
Thanks
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This process is a little different from the way I did it too. What is the purpose of the additional CSC file? Should I reroot using this new method?
jimmydigital00 said:
This process is a little different from the way I did it too. What is the purpose of the additional CSC file? Should I reroot using this new method?
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+1
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jimmydigital00 said:
This process is a little different from the way I did it too. What is the purpose of the additional CSC file? Should I reroot using this new method?
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No need to root again, I just separated the two files.
This worked like a charm. Thanks DG!
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Finall got all files downloaded gonna flash tomorrow after work Thank you so very much designgears, chainfire and all testers for the hard work that brought us root to the G-Note 3 you guys snd XDA are unstoppable!!!
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Works perfectly. Donated!
I can also confirm that if you bork stuff while rooted, you can Odin the stock rom over everything and start over without throwing the Knox flag.
I know that flashing a custom recovery or custom ROM will trip the KNOX counter...BUT...
1. is it possible to adb sideload (after Root de la Vega)?
and...
2. if you CAN adb push and pull, can we pull the framework-res.apk, modify it to our liking and push it back...or will this be the same as flashing a custom ROM which will trip KNOX?
I am curious because I'd like to enable unlimited wifi tethering like I did on my old Galaxy S III by creating a flashable zip (however with Note 3 I wouldn't make it flashable, just push)
Thanks for your work putting this together.
It was real easy to do, and root certainly is appealing. One thing I need is device-level encryption, and that is so far unavailable on a rooted N3.
I've even tried Xposed Framework with Wanam Xposed, and checked System status via TriangleAway:
Counter = 0
Binary = Official
System = Official
But somehow device still won't encryp. Back to stock I go (a 3rd time)...
I have rooted with ping pong and am completely stock with root.
How can I upgrade to 5.1.1 and keep root?
Since I am rooted I'm not getting ota. Is there a firmware only package I can flash with Odin?
Flashfire can flash the update but I get a boot loop from it.
Just wait... At this time there is no root options for 5.1.1
Not even with flashfire?
That will work if I can get/make a firmware only Odin flashable.
If you read around there is nothing right now. And if you flashed to 5.1.1 there's no way to downgrade back to 5.0.2 either. I would just wait it out until there's something out. That's what I'm doing.
You can update to 5.1.1 using Samsung Smart Switch, you will lose root once you update. Currently there is no root method for 5.1.1.
So, if root is important to you, than as others have stated don't update till a new root exploit is available.
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Either that or someone cooks up a rom 5.1.1 with root built in. But either way yeah root has to be figured out first
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In the past I have normally used mobileOdin to flash the new version and inject root, then flash the remaining partitions with a firmware only file made for Odin. I haven't seen any of those made yet. When someone makes that it might be possible.
There are some of those @TheArtiszan in the S6 section, but it seemed that the updater script or something still flashes a recovery img, even if it's not included in the package... http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...ndroid-5-1-1-update-available-t3135498/page21
I have an idea, but not sure if it works.
The official firmware is a TAR/MD5 package which basically is a zip package contains all img
Can we flash individual img using FlashFire and add SuperSU.zip to queue for flashing?
In this way, if it works, can still keep root and not trigger knox.
Anyone dare to try?
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OK, it wont work cause i think the whole rom is knox security enabled by default
even if you have a nandroid backup that was on 5.0.2 are you unable to downgrade from 5.1.1 just from flashing it?
Millz120 said:
even if you have a nandroid backup that was on 5.0.2 are you unable to downgrade from 5.1.1 just from flashing it?
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There's root now. Look in the general thread for easy root links.
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Yeah I saw that. I'm waiting for a root that won't trip my KNOX.
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Millz120 said:
Yeah I saw that. I'm waiting for a root that won't trip my KNOX.
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That would be ideal, but it might be a while. So far, from what I can tell, 5.1.1 is very strict about root - so long as SEAndroid is Enforcing. And currently, the only way to set it otherwise is to install a custom kernel (therefore tripping KNOX). But, somehow the PingPongRoot guys managed to get root on 5.0.2 without tripping knox, so perhaps they'll pull through for us again?
Yeah that would be cool. Does anyone know if Samsung Pay is disabled only when you trip the KNOX? I know if KNOX is tripped you definitely lose Sam Pay. If you avoid tripping KNOX do you still have Sam pay capability?
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Millz120 said:
Yeah that would be cool. Does anyone know if Samsung Pay is disabled only when you trip the KNOX? I know if KNOX is tripped you definitely lose Sam Pay. If you avoid tripping KNOX do you still have Sam pay capability?
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Somehow I think SamPay will require Knox intact AND unmodified /system partition.(which they are enforcing by knox security aka kernel check)
Would using SuperSU's feature of installing to System allow keeping root while updating from 5.02 to 5.1.1 and not tripping KNOX? I don't have any real experience with using that feature, I used to use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper.
turn off the tmobile update to 5.1.1 message
Hi. I just got this phone and I am getting the update message i have to keep postponing. Its 5.0.2 now. Can I turn it off without rooting?
I've been getting S-Off, bootloader unlock, and root on the m9 for a while. I'd flash TWRP, and let it root for me.
However, after the Android m update rolled out my method is no longer working. Letting TWRP root soft bricks the device. I tried using it to flash the latest version of SuperSU too, but even after it shows as successful, there's no SuperSU app installed and installing it from the play store shows the device to be not rooted. TWRP does stop offering to root for me however. I even tried installing a custom ROM which should have root, but again it lacked SuperSU and installing it showed the phone to be not rooted. What gives? Fortunately the phones are family phones and not someone requesting an unlock.
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Eragon615 said:
I've been getting S-Off, bootloader unlock, and root on the m9 for a while. I'd flash TWRP, and let it root for me.
However, after the Android m update rolled out my method is no longer working. Letting TWRP root soft bricks the device. I tried using it to flash the latest version of SuperSU too, but even after it shows as successful, there's no SuperSU app installed and installing it from the play store shows the device to be not rooted. TWRP does stop offering to root for me however. I even tried installing a custom ROM which should have root, but again it lacked SuperSU and installing it showed the phone to be not rooted. What gives? Fortunately the phones are family phones and not someone requesting an unlock.
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thats wierd.. Is Twrp allowed to make modifications on the device?? this might be the issue
Yeah, I decided to double check just to be sure, but still no dice. This has happened on 2 phones, so surely someone else has encountered this problem?
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