I have rooted with ping pong and am completely stock with root.
How can I upgrade to 5.1.1 and keep root?
Since I am rooted I'm not getting ota. Is there a firmware only package I can flash with Odin?
Flashfire can flash the update but I get a boot loop from it.
Just wait... At this time there is no root options for 5.1.1
Not even with flashfire?
That will work if I can get/make a firmware only Odin flashable.
If you read around there is nothing right now. And if you flashed to 5.1.1 there's no way to downgrade back to 5.0.2 either. I would just wait it out until there's something out. That's what I'm doing.
You can update to 5.1.1 using Samsung Smart Switch, you will lose root once you update. Currently there is no root method for 5.1.1.
So, if root is important to you, than as others have stated don't update till a new root exploit is available.
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Either that or someone cooks up a rom 5.1.1 with root built in. But either way yeah root has to be figured out first
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In the past I have normally used mobileOdin to flash the new version and inject root, then flash the remaining partitions with a firmware only file made for Odin. I haven't seen any of those made yet. When someone makes that it might be possible.
There are some of those @TheArtiszan in the S6 section, but it seemed that the updater script or something still flashes a recovery img, even if it's not included in the package... http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...ndroid-5-1-1-update-available-t3135498/page21
I have an idea, but not sure if it works.
The official firmware is a TAR/MD5 package which basically is a zip package contains all img
Can we flash individual img using FlashFire and add SuperSU.zip to queue for flashing?
In this way, if it works, can still keep root and not trigger knox.
Anyone dare to try?
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OK, it wont work cause i think the whole rom is knox security enabled by default
even if you have a nandroid backup that was on 5.0.2 are you unable to downgrade from 5.1.1 just from flashing it?
Millz120 said:
even if you have a nandroid backup that was on 5.0.2 are you unable to downgrade from 5.1.1 just from flashing it?
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There's root now. Look in the general thread for easy root links.
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Yeah I saw that. I'm waiting for a root that won't trip my KNOX.
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Millz120 said:
Yeah I saw that. I'm waiting for a root that won't trip my KNOX.
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That would be ideal, but it might be a while. So far, from what I can tell, 5.1.1 is very strict about root - so long as SEAndroid is Enforcing. And currently, the only way to set it otherwise is to install a custom kernel (therefore tripping KNOX). But, somehow the PingPongRoot guys managed to get root on 5.0.2 without tripping knox, so perhaps they'll pull through for us again?
Yeah that would be cool. Does anyone know if Samsung Pay is disabled only when you trip the KNOX? I know if KNOX is tripped you definitely lose Sam Pay. If you avoid tripping KNOX do you still have Sam pay capability?
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Millz120 said:
Yeah that would be cool. Does anyone know if Samsung Pay is disabled only when you trip the KNOX? I know if KNOX is tripped you definitely lose Sam Pay. If you avoid tripping KNOX do you still have Sam pay capability?
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Somehow I think SamPay will require Knox intact AND unmodified /system partition.(which they are enforcing by knox security aka kernel check)
Would using SuperSU's feature of installing to System allow keeping root while updating from 5.02 to 5.1.1 and not tripping KNOX? I don't have any real experience with using that feature, I used to use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper.
turn off the tmobile update to 5.1.1 message
Hi. I just got this phone and I am getting the update message i have to keep postponing. Its 5.0.2 now. Can I turn it off without rooting?
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This has been replaced by Universal Root de la Vega!
Question & Answer
"Root de la Vega" What kind of name is that?
It's named after Ralph de la Vega, CEO of AT&T Mobility.
Can I flash custom recovery/kernel/rom without tripping KNOX flags?
No, Flashing a custom ROM will trip the flag
No, Flashing a custom Kernel will trip the flag
No, Flashing a custom Recovery will trip the flag
Will this set a tripped KNOX flag 0x1 back to 0x0?
No.
Can you help me with the drivers?
No, but you can head over here for help with drivers.
How do I get into download mode?
Method 1: adb reboot download
Method 2: Pull the battery out, unplug the usb cable, reinsert the battery. Hold Volume Down + Home + Power. Follow the instructions on the screen.
Will rooting or downgrading or flashing stock trip the Knox flags?
No, KNOX flags will not be tripped!
Will root survive a factory reset?
Yes, it does.
Will root survive an OTA update?
The Sprint Note 3 has survived an OTA update, you only need to perform the sdcard steps again to get root. However, you should NOT take OTA updates, it is possible for them to patch the root method with an OTA update.
Do I need have to fully wipe my phone when rooting?
Yes. If you don't you will get lots of nasty force closes. I have yet to find a way around it.
Does Xposed Framework work?
Yes, it has been updated to work fully with the Note 3.
Will rooting report system as custom and display an unlocked lock on the initial boot screen?
Yes. It can be removed by installing Xposed Framework with Wanam Xposed and enabling Security hacks > Fake system status.
Titanium Backup is giving me problems, how can I fix it?
Check out this thread. If you are still having issues, please take your concerns to the dev, they are not related to rooting.
How do I open a 7z file?
With 7zip or IZArc!
Can I do this on OS X/Linux?
No, not until heimdall is updated to support the Note 3.
Can I unroot?
Yes, use SuperSU full unroot option or flash stock.
I am getting a "Prevention Information" popup after running a root app, how do I disable it?
From terminal emulator or adb shell as root, run; pm disable com.sec.knox.seandroid
Or freeze the Knox apps with Titanium Backup.
I am getting Force Closes after flashing, how can I fix it?
Make sure you are flashing the CSC file! If you are, try flashing AP and CSC separately.
Good stuff. did this yesterday and it worked like a charm.
Thank you so much!
just to confirm, i can remove/freeze system apps, run ad blocker, xposed, etc, with just root, right? I have never not fully "unlocked" a device and just stayed with the stock ROM. So just want to confirm before using this. And thanks btw for your hard work on this.
And one last one...Im pretty sure I wont be able to get OTA's so how would one go about updating once an OTA has been released without tripping knox?
EDIT: I just saw the 2nd post with all the FAQ...some reason it didnt show before until after I posted. But still wondering about the OTAs
droidkevlar said:
just to confirm, i can remove/freeze system apps, run ad blocker, xposed, etc, with just root, right? I have never not fully "unlocked" a device and just stayed with the stock ROM. So just want to confirm before using this. And thanks btw for your hard work on this.
And one last one...Im pretty sure I wont be able to get OTA's so how would one go about updating once an OTA has been released without tripping knox?
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You can do all of that fun stuff with root
I am unsure on the OTAs, haven't had any roll out yet.
I can also confirm, worked like a charm. Did it today, and didn't lose any data. Phone was how it was pre root, but with added SU goodness.
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Hey designgears,
Nice to see you're still at it. Your old Cognition ROM (eclair iirc) was one of the first ROMs I ran on my SGS1 Captivate, years ago, before I settled on CyanogenMod. Didn't see you in SGS3-land, but here you are again with the Note3. Hey-ohhhh.
Thanks.
Rooted through this method today. It worked like a charm. Now my Note 3 feels invincible. Thank you!
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Ok. Here we go. I've been on android for a long time and never heard of KNOX. What the hell is this and do we need it?
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EDIT: I forgot--Google is my friend. Nvm
I'm sorry if this is too off topic but, while it IS wonderful to have a root method like this and I'm VERY grateful for it, most of what I read online states that a custom recovery will mess with knox and cause issues. I dint know if I could keep an android phone and not flash custom roms! I'm still within my return window with t mobile (I'm coming from Sprint) and I'm actually thinking about trading for a nexus 4. Hope we get a functioning recovery soon!
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Any difference between this and the root method from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
Any reason for someone who has rooted using the other method to redo it with this one?
Thanks
hdad2 said:
Any difference between this and the root method from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
Any reason for someone who has rooted using the other method to redo it with this one?
Thanks
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Same thing
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hdad2 said:
Any difference between this and the root method from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
Any reason for someone who has rooted using the other method to redo it with this one?
Thanks
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This process is a little different from the way I did it too. What is the purpose of the additional CSC file? Should I reroot using this new method?
jimmydigital00 said:
This process is a little different from the way I did it too. What is the purpose of the additional CSC file? Should I reroot using this new method?
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+1
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jimmydigital00 said:
This process is a little different from the way I did it too. What is the purpose of the additional CSC file? Should I reroot using this new method?
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No need to root again, I just separated the two files.
This worked like a charm. Thanks DG!
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Finall got all files downloaded gonna flash tomorrow after work Thank you so very much designgears, chainfire and all testers for the hard work that brought us root to the G-Note 3 you guys snd XDA are unstoppable!!!
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Works perfectly. Donated!
I can also confirm that if you bork stuff while rooted, you can Odin the stock rom over everything and start over without throwing the Knox flag.
I know that flashing a custom recovery or custom ROM will trip the KNOX counter...BUT...
1. is it possible to adb sideload (after Root de la Vega)?
and...
2. if you CAN adb push and pull, can we pull the framework-res.apk, modify it to our liking and push it back...or will this be the same as flashing a custom ROM which will trip KNOX?
I am curious because I'd like to enable unlimited wifi tethering like I did on my old Galaxy S III by creating a flashable zip (however with Note 3 I wouldn't make it flashable, just push)
Thanks for your work putting this together.
It was real easy to do, and root certainly is appealing. One thing I need is device-level encryption, and that is so far unavailable on a rooted N3.
I've even tried Xposed Framework with Wanam Xposed, and checked System status via TriangleAway:
Counter = 0
Binary = Official
System = Official
But somehow device still won't encryp. Back to stock I go (a 3rd time)...
Hi there,
I haven't been updated on rooting and all that jazz in a while, so please excuse my ignorance.
I have a Galaxy S3 (SGH-T999) on 4.1.2. It's stock rooted, but I don't have a custom Recovery or anything on it. I didn't (and don't) want to trip the root counter.
Is there a way to upgrade my phone to 4.3, have root working, and not trip the root counter? (Basically, what I currently have, except on 4.3)
Also, I Googled this new Knox feature I've seen people talk about, it seems like a lot of people here don't like it-- should I not want it on my phone too?
Happy holidays,
-Proxin
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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masondoctorjt said:
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
If you want 4.3 touchwiz, root, and a warranty, all at the same time, don't take the official update.
Instead, flash the 4.3 ROM zip, 4.3 modem, and a compatible kernel, using twrp or cwm recovery.
If you ever need to odin, do not use any version newer than MD5 or you are stuck with Knox and can never go back.
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Proxin said:
From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
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It still triggers the counter, but it can be reset. It did not wipe my data, but backup just in case. Resetting the counter did not wipe data either. But do not update to the official 4.3 if you want to root and still have a warranty.
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Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
Adreaver said:
To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
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I checked in developer options after pressing the build number 7 times, but I don't see anything about enabling root in there...
Do I have to re-root somehow? If so, will that throw off the counter?
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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masondoctorjt said:
That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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I don't understand-- it seems like it says Knox is removed in order for root to stick:
4.3 Image Notes: With 4.3 images, KNOX is removed in order for root to stick. This will flag the Knox counter. Once you flash one of these 4.3 images you now have the latest factory stock bootloader, radio, etc. Flashing a prior bootloader can hard/soft brick your device. Please read and understand what you are doing.
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I took it to mean root will flag the Knox counter so it has been removed from the images.
The wording is very ambiguous...
I'm pretty close to just nuking my install and starting over with CyanogenMod, not caring if I trip the counter or not. Is it possible to do so with the current setup, or will I end up with a brick/semibrick somehow? I figure I might as well, since rooting will likely trip the counter anyway.
Yes lol
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pgarcia777 said:
Yes lol
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"It has been removed", it being Knox haha. That's how I understood it...
So yes, it's possible to get CyanogenMod working without a brick or semi-brick coming from this version I installed?
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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masondoctorjt said:
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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I ended up just saying "eff it" and hopped onto CyanogenMod. Probably tripped the root counter, but by now I just don't care anymore.
Thanks for helping me in this thread though, I appreciate it.
Take care and happy holidays.
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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Adreaver said:
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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One of the things that bugs me about forums, finding information is a pain the butt. I just want to get my device back to stock so I can get OTA updates, GPS doesn't suck, and can use Wifi. I don't care about root anymore or using custom roms. I'm learning Objective C right now to branch into iOS development. I'm sick of the Android ecosystem, to be frank.
I'm on Wicked Rom with Android v4.1.1
Baseband T999UVDMD5, Kernal 3.0.65-DeviantKernel_07
I'm downloading T999UVUEMJC_T999TMBEMJC_TMB.zip right now, along with root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC_2.7z
Which one do I need to flash? if root66 gives me root, then cool I'll take it, but as I said, I don't care. I'll be using Mobile Odin since I'm on a mac and I sold my PC. If I need to install Windows via bootcamp then so be it, but I really don't want to.
If I need to update the rom, kernel, modem, etc all separately where do I find those files? *scratches head*
Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.
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Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.[/QUOT
You wont get the update over the air cause your phone is rooted. you will get an error. you need to unroot or flash the software your slef..
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Pajar0913 said:
holycow1 said:
Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.
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You wont get the update over the air cause your phone is rooted. you will get an error. you need to unroot or flash the software your slef..
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Ok. So should I back up through Titanium back up & flash through Odin?
Is there a non-KNOX trip root method for 4.4.2?
holycow1 said:
Ok. So should I back up through Titanium back up & flash through Odin?
Is there a non-KNOX trip root method for 4.4.2?
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Honestly I couldn't tell you. I just did the update to my phone. I'm looking all that up now. As far as your back up. It's always a good thing to back up your current rom in case you ever wanna go back to it. What I did was just flash stock Rom with out root using Odin. And I received the update today. It just now finished. It takes a good min to download. It's 495mb rather big big file.
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Odin with the new firmware then boot into recovery and wipe the phone and cache. You'll be back to stock 4.4.2
I'm not sure if they're is any proven methods to achieve root without tripping Knox for 4.4.2, I personally don't care about tripping Knox and cf auto rooted.
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I'm of the frame of mind that you should never accept OTA updates unless you have no plans at aftermarket firmware modification. Since you are already rooted I would caution against it...even if only to establish good habits. This OTA might be safe but who knows if the next one locks up the bootloader? I'd Jump immediately to another device. I have no desire to get stuck on stock, especially with a risk of no exploit available for root...for a while? Forever? Who knows...that's a roll of the dice I'm not willing to take. The developers do amazing work and I am thankful for every moment of time they spend making roms, finding root, writing recoveries, etc etc etc. But I am not so arrogant as to expect every patched up whole to be cracked open again, by someone else no less.
It'll probably be less than a day (I've seen it take less than an hour on some devices) until a dev has a flashable zip and a pre-rooted Odin image that doesn't trip Knox.
...I've seen tons of impatient users posting after rushing to grab the update asking how to rootagain, or how to unlock the new bootloader, how to get back things they used to have...over many many many devices. Just because T-Mobile has been cool in the past is no indicator that they will continue to be cool in the future.
...patience...
eruscool said:
Odin with the new firmware then boot into recovery and wipe the phone and cache. You'll be back to stock 4.4.2
I'm not sure if they're is any proven methods to achieve root without tripping Knox for 4.4.2, I personally don't care about tripping Knox and cf auto rooted.
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Which version of cf auto root did you use? I read only the n9005 works. The one for our phone (n900t) doesn't. I want to use it, but not sure which one, so instead of trial and error, maybe you can guide me where you got yours. Thanks.
bobbyphoenix said:
Which version of cf auto root did you use? I read only the n9005 works. The one for our phone (n900t) doesn't. I want to use it, but not sure which one, so instead of trial and error, maybe you can guide me where you got yours. Thanks.
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use this one http://download.chainfire.eu/352/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.zip
you're right the one for the tmobile variant does not work, i tried it first and it put me in a bootloop.
here's the firmware you need http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26282
flash through odin, wipe the phone through the stock recovery then cf auto root also through the included odin.
EDIT: i for got to mention, if you use cf root YOU WILL TRIP KNOX. if you don't want to trip knox, don't update or update but don't cf auto root and wait till someone comes out with a workaround.
My phone was rooted by ping-pong root.
I did full unroot in superssu, but still fail to update the device.
How can I update my s6 edge to 5.1.1?
sungm64 said:
My phone was rooted by ping-pong root.
I did full unroot in superssu, but still fail to update the device.
How can I update my s6 edge to 5.1.1?
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You'll have to take it back to stock. Search the forum for how-to.
Use SmartSwitch. It's available through Samsung and updated mine even though it was rooted. You will lose root after the update, however.
And you will be stuck on stock until chain fire figures it out
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Or get flashfire and update using that. Probably need Odin to flash the parts flashfire doesn't flash.
II was in exactly the same boat as you and used SmartSwitch and it was EASY
Is there currently a way to achieve root without tripping knox if your phone has the latest update?
Or, is it possible to somehow revert back to a version that can easily be rooted using a knox free method?
Would appreciate some guidance, as this is new to me.
I had wanted to wait until I owned my phone for some time before rooting it.
Dreamgun said:
Is there currently a way to achieve root without tripping knox if your phone has the latest update?
Or, is it possible to somehow revert back to a version that can easily be rooted using a knox free method?
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The best method that I know of is to downgrade to KitKat, root using TowelRoot (which does not trip knox), and then update to 5.0 using Mobile Odin Pro.
There is a thread with instructions for this here
Mods need to mark this as solved imho, the poster has a viable solution from a senior member