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UNROOT sgh-t999v

i need to unroot my s3 for warranty purposes but i cannot find proper procedures for the the model sgh-t999v..
i have 2 questions,
1. can i just root a stock rom for sgh-t999 to my sgh-t999v?
2. anyone have the procedures to unroot my sgh-t999v
thanks

Flash a stock rooted Rom. T-Mobile one. That seems to be ok as long as you don't flash a T-Mobile radio.
Not sure if triangle away works on the Canadian version.
Maybe someone else has tried it.
All I had to do to return my last one was flash a stock rooted Rom.
I don't think they check the flash counter
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If the Rom has some T-Mobile bloat left on it get it off there.
Hide superuser in a folder
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Thanks, ill try it tonight
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Or you can download the actual fw for your device. You will have to register but its no big deal.
Www.sammobile.com/firmware
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I can see you have a Videotron Galaxy S3. They don't check the flash counter. Let's just say I know this "by experience". As long as it's just rooted and you don't have any custom ROM, you should be fine. But indeed if you can at least hide the SU app it would be a good thing.
You could also perform a factory reset in CWM prior to going to the store, as they will make you do it anyways (and you actually don't want them to see the CWM screen)prior to any exchange. It's company policy.

lightpsycho said:
I can see you have a Videotron Galaxy S3. They don't check the flash counter. Let's just say I know this "by experience". As long as it's just rooted and you don't have any custom ROM, you should be fine. But indeed if you can at least hide the SU app it would be a good thing.
You could also perform a factory reset in CWM prior to going to the store, as they will make you do it anyways (and you actually don't want them to see the CWM screen)prior to any exchange. It's company policy.
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It's still probably safer to just use Triangle Away to get rid of the flash counter

Triangle away? Please explain
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yukuansu said:
Triangle away? Please explain
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Heres everything to know about triangle away, it resets the flash counter...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Jake

T-Mobile & SGH-T999V
Hi,
Can we use the T-Mobile stock recovery on SGH-T999V?

flyerspat said:
Hi,
Can we use the T-Mobile stock recovery on SGH-T999V?
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If your trying to go back to stock, just download the stock rom from sammobile, it has everything you need like stock recovery, and then just flash it via odin.

htc fan89 said:
If your trying to go back to stock, just download the stock rom from sammobile, it has everything you need like stock recovery, and then just flash it via odin.
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Hi,
The only downloads availables are the firmwares, does it include the stock recovery in it?

flyerspat said:
Hi,
The only downloads availables are the firmwares, does it include the stock recovery in it?
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Yes it should be the full fw which includes radio, recovery and more.
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Thanks!
I'll test it tonight, wouldn't look good to download a 700 mb file at work!

I tried a few firmwares, but for some reason they all said "unsupport dev_type" when trying to use odin to return to stock non root (from stock rooted) In the end, the easiest way to remove root was to just let Kies update my gs3 to Jelly Bean (sgh-t999v). Painless, no data loss, took about 30 minutes with the firmware download.
Good luck

You will likely also want to triangle away. I won't link because it's extremely dangerous software that requires you to read up on the risks.
But that will reset your custom flashes assuming you have some on your counter you can check easily by going into download mode.

i recently lost my stock rom backup.. deleted it off clockworkmod touch by accident, so i only have the cm10.1 nightly i was running when i deleted it.. now i'm assuming i will lose root if i flash the stock firmware through odin? is there another way to get my stock rom back without losing root (and cyanogenmod rom backups)?

hey guys im having trouble with triangle away on my sgh-t999v with the baseband version: T999VVLUFNF1
after I used triangle away and I go into download mode it says:
current binary: Samsung Official
System status: official
qualcomm secureboot:enable
Warranty Bit:1
Bootloader AP SWAEV: 2
Although the current binary and the system status have changed the warranty bit is still at 1
Please help!

There is no way (and never will be a way) to change the Warranty Bit. Sorry

DocHoliday77 said:
There is no way (and never will be a way) to change the Warranty Bit. Sorry
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I guess im screwed for warranty..I thought it might be cuz I have a custom kernal installed that triangle away didnt work..but thanks anyway and sorry about posting in multiple threads, im kinda new to this

No problem, thats why i mention it, so you know for the future.
Tecnically, with the warranty bit tripped, the warranty is void. However, i have seen a lot of posts where people sent it in anyway and their warranty was still honored. Its not a guarantee, but there is hope it can be used if needed. The good thing though, is you most likely will never need to use it anyway!

How to: Root 4.3 & Install CWM SGH-T889

Keep in mind that if you follow this method, you are tripping the knox flag to a 0x1. This completed voids your warranty and until this moment there's no possible way to research back to a 0x0.
I used Oden to apply the Chainfire root. After rebooting, Knox told me it prevented an unauthorized app from accessing secure area of the phone. Then SuperSU FC'ed. I went to play, updated it SuperSU, and opened it. After a brief pause, it asked "Do you want to disable Knox?". I pondered that question intently, and in about 10ms, answered OF COURSE! It the successfully disabled knox.
After, go into the play store, and download "Rom Manager". Open it up, and click on the first tab. "Recovery Setup" (Even if it says that you already have CWM recovery installed, still do these steps) After clicking on that tab, on the list "Install or Update recovery" Click on ClockwordMod Recovery. Then click on our device name. A box will pop up suggesting you have Wi-Fi (If you're not already on it), just click OK. And then it'll automatically download it and flash it. There you go.
Sorry if this has already been posted. People might think that there is a different way to root 4.3, just here to help.
Took part of this from erkme73​

Thanks .. worked like a charm

Thanks a lot. This method worked for me and very quickly! Thanks!

Thnaks for testing this out. This method worked for me. I had the old CFautoroot before and it didn't work for me, so after downloading the CFautoroot that's specifically for t-mo version, this worked for me.
I didn't even have to go and download a custom recovery. I managed to have the stock recovery on.

Previous to 4.3 I flashed Robinson's stock root-injected 4.1.2 rom. Would this method work for me? And can I skip the CWM recovery part?

ungraph said:
Previous to 4.3 I flashed Robinson's stock root-injected 4.1.2 rom. Would this method work for me? And can I skip the CWM recovery part?
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If you use ODIN to flash the 4.3 stock, then you'll lose root, and then you'll have to do this method to get root back. You already have root. Wait until Mr. R puts out the root injected 4.3 so you won't lose your root.

nmw407 said:
If you use ODIN to flash the 4.3 stock, then you'll lose root, and then you'll have to do this method to get root back. You already have root. Wait until Mr. R puts out the root injected 4.3 so you won't lose your root.
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I flashed Robinson's stock root-injected 4.1.2 via Odin and I installed the 4.3 update via Kies yesterday so I lost root. I was wondering if this method would work for me.

It worked for me through ODIN. My mistake was using the old CFautoroot that was for the note 2 international. Once I used the one for t-mo, it all worked exactly as the OP stated - I stopped before the recovery installation since I didn't need TWRP or CWM

is it possible to be rooted and still use knox?

nmw407 said:
It worked for me through ODIN. My mistake was using the old CFautoroot that was for the note 2 international. Once I used the one for t-mo, it all worked exactly as the OP stated - I stopped before the recovery installation since I didn't need TWRP or CWM
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Just did exactly what you said and it works! I gained root on stock 4.3.

bones718 said:
is it possible to be rooted and still use knox?
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From what I have seen with my phone NO... But hey still very early. The root method here is great. I found that I had to also uninstall Knox completly with TiBu and seems to hold. I found booting back into recovery even with Knox on Freeze it still would interfere ... Just my limited experience speaking here also.
Thanks again for the root method. Seems 4.3 is pretty smooth, I installed exposed and Wanam and all is good, Also flashed Devil Kernel and good good so far.:victory:

youStolemylaptop said:
There you go.
Sorry if this has already been posted. People might think that there is a different way to root 4.3, just here to help.
Took part of this from erkme73​
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Worked like a charm. Thanks for posting the steps!

This method works but i did a master reset to start "fresh" after rooting and i got on the Tmobile 4g lte screen loop.
Any ideas?
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From what I have seen with my phone NO... But hey still very early. The root method here is great. I found that I had to also uninstall Knox completly with TiBu and seems to hold. I found booting back into recovery even with Knox on Freeze it still would interfere ... Just my limited experience speaking here also.
Thanks again for the root method. Seems 4.3 is pretty smooth, I installed exposed and Wanam and all is good, Also flashed Devil Kernel and good good so far.:victory:
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What do you meant by interfere?

DKM119 said:
This method works but i did a master reset to start "fresh" after rooting and i got on the Tmobile 4g lte screen loop.
Any ideas?
What do you meant by interfere?
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Mine hung on that screen for longer than I wanted (started getting nervous) but eventually the phone finished loading up
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Keep in mind that if you follow this method, you are tripping the knox flag to a 0x1. This completed voids your warranty and until this moment there's no possible way to revert back to a 0x0. This means you can't downgrade your firmware and if you try, even via Odin, it wouldn't let you and lock your phone. Just a heads up. OP shouldve posted this in the post but if you don't mind flashing custom rooms etc, then by all means go ahead.

ungraph said:
Keep in mind that if you follow this method, you are tripping the knox flag to a 0x1. This completed voids your warranty and until this moment there's no possible way to research back to a 0x0. This means you can't downgrade your firmware and if you try, even via Odin, it wouldn't let you and lock your phone. Just a heads up. OP shouldve posted this in the post but if you don't mind flashing custom rooms etc, then by all means go ahead.
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I'll edit it in right now to let everyone know.
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it's work on my NOTE2
Thanks

I thank the OP for updating the post to reflect the Knox issue... but I think anyone with a Note 2 should have already been aware of such issues when rooting. Even if they weren't around for the "modified/binary count/triangle away" disscussions... those that did root, still had to deal with those issue and heard all about them... and now that we've headed towards that next phase of OTA's... it's hard to think anyone has not seen/heard/read something on Knox itself... I can hardly go 5 topics without seeing something related to Knox posted within the first 2 pages... I commend the OP for updating... but how can people be so careless with a phone that cost $400-700. Especially when the first rule of xda is "read first" followed by rule two "at your own risk"
Ultimately, I tripped out about the whole "modified status won't allow OTA's / void warranty" at first and in the end it was patched... I hope for everyone's sake, this gets the same solution... like Coug, I'm holding out for the moment, but I do have faith
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PhxDroid86 said:
I thank the OP for updating the post to reflect the Knox issue... but I think anyone with a Note 2 should have already been aware of such issues when rooting. Even if they weren't around for the "modified/binary count/triangle away" disscussions... those that did root, still had to deal with those issue and heard all about them... and now that we've headed towards that next phase of OTA's... it's hard to think anyone has not seen/heard/read something on Knox itself... I can hardly go 5 topics without seeing something related to Knox posted within the first 2 pages... I commend the OP for updating... but how can people be so careless with a phone that cost $400-700. Especially when the first rule of xda is "read first" followed by rule two "at your own risk"
Ultimately, I tripped out about the whole "modified status won't allow OTA's / void warranty" at first and in the end it was patched... I hope for everyone's sake, this gets the same solution... like Coug, I'm holding out for the moment, but I do have faith
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In a perfect world this is completely true, but this isn't a prefect world. Most the post I see about Knox is "what is Knox" instead of people searching. That's why we have so many people already bootlooping trying to go back to 4.1. I'm glad the op updated the Knox warranty but because I'm pretty sure there will be some people shocked by theirs being tripped.
On a side not Vroot and kingo will root without messing up the Knox. Just Google them. They were removed from xda because some suspicion of virus, but I didn't have s problem
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So if you flash Mr. Robinson's stock root injected update you lose root. He has ripped out knox so if you use this method, you shouldn't have any issues and regain root?

[Q] Should I OTA Update?

Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.

holycow1 said:
Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.[/QUOT
You wont get the update over the air cause your phone is rooted. you will get an error. you need to unroot or flash the software your slef..
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Pajar0913 said:
holycow1 said:
Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.
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You wont get the update over the air cause your phone is rooted. you will get an error. you need to unroot or flash the software your slef..
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Ok. So should I back up through Titanium back up & flash through Odin?
Is there a non-KNOX trip root method for 4.4.2?

holycow1 said:
Ok. So should I back up through Titanium back up & flash through Odin?
Is there a non-KNOX trip root method for 4.4.2?
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Honestly I couldn't tell you. I just did the update to my phone. I'm looking all that up now. As far as your back up. It's always a good thing to back up your current rom in case you ever wanna go back to it. What I did was just flash stock Rom with out root using Odin. And I received the update today. It just now finished. It takes a good min to download. It's 495mb rather big big file.
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Odin with the new firmware then boot into recovery and wipe the phone and cache. You'll be back to stock 4.4.2
I'm not sure if they're is any proven methods to achieve root without tripping Knox for 4.4.2, I personally don't care about tripping Knox and cf auto rooted.
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I'm of the frame of mind that you should never accept OTA updates unless you have no plans at aftermarket firmware modification. Since you are already rooted I would caution against it...even if only to establish good habits. This OTA might be safe but who knows if the next one locks up the bootloader? I'd Jump immediately to another device. I have no desire to get stuck on stock, especially with a risk of no exploit available for root...for a while? Forever? Who knows...that's a roll of the dice I'm not willing to take. The developers do amazing work and I am thankful for every moment of time they spend making roms, finding root, writing recoveries, etc etc etc. But I am not so arrogant as to expect every patched up whole to be cracked open again, by someone else no less.
It'll probably be less than a day (I've seen it take less than an hour on some devices) until a dev has a flashable zip and a pre-rooted Odin image that doesn't trip Knox.
...I've seen tons of impatient users posting after rushing to grab the update asking how to rootagain, or how to unlock the new bootloader, how to get back things they used to have...over many many many devices. Just because T-Mobile has been cool in the past is no indicator that they will continue to be cool in the future.
...patience...

eruscool said:
Odin with the new firmware then boot into recovery and wipe the phone and cache. You'll be back to stock 4.4.2
I'm not sure if they're is any proven methods to achieve root without tripping Knox for 4.4.2, I personally don't care about tripping Knox and cf auto rooted.
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Which version of cf auto root did you use? I read only the n9005 works. The one for our phone (n900t) doesn't. I want to use it, but not sure which one, so instead of trial and error, maybe you can guide me where you got yours. Thanks.

bobbyphoenix said:
Which version of cf auto root did you use? I read only the n9005 works. The one for our phone (n900t) doesn't. I want to use it, but not sure which one, so instead of trial and error, maybe you can guide me where you got yours. Thanks.
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use this one http://download.chainfire.eu/352/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.zip
you're right the one for the tmobile variant does not work, i tried it first and it put me in a bootloop.
here's the firmware you need http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26282
flash through odin, wipe the phone through the stock recovery then cf auto root also through the included odin.
EDIT: i for got to mention, if you use cf root YOU WILL TRIP KNOX. if you don't want to trip knox, don't update or update but don't cf auto root and wait till someone comes out with a workaround.

Another 4.3 bootloader question...sorry

I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
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Djspinister said:
I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
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Yeah, that's correct. If you go stock 4.3, via the OTA update, you will lose root initially. You can, however, always re-root. The most effective method to root after 4.3 is to Odin TWRP, boot to recovery and then flash SuperSu and the knox remover tool via recovery. Install SuperSU from the play store and run it to update the binary when prompted.

Won't let me thank you on the mobile app, so I'll do it when I get home from work, thank you! Wonder what happened to the premium version I paid for. Took my money and ran lol
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Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.

audit13 said:
Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.
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So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.

Djspinister said:
So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.
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There is no question about it. You can root even after 4.3 OTA. I've done it half a dozen times. Audit is right that you will trip the warranty but since this isn't an issue ...
The usual methods of rooting including CF Auto-Root don't always work and the method I've used with success each time is Option 2 in the thread below. The knox removal script disables knox ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991

Sounds good man, I'll hit that up when I get home, thank you!
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[Q] Changing operating systems?

Ok yall I have a brick It was a Tmobile SGH-M919 and the rirmware was M919UVUFNB4. Question, since it only boots into download mode, not even recovery, can I change between M919UVUFN4B and M919UVUEMK2 and M919UVUAMDL?
Just wondering cause I'm trying to learn how to change an operateing system on phones
I've gotten pretty good at rooting and roms now its time to learn something new

M919UVUFN4B and M919UVUEMK2 are both knox enable firmwares. You can change between then but never go back to M919UVUAMDL. Putting on a different rom is changing the os on the phone.

Thanks. Can I simply root and remove Knox? I hate that app as much as my ex wife's cat.
Right now I have 12 hours left downloading the 4.4.2 one so after installation it will be rooted and recovery will be changed to cwm
Oh and why not go back to MDL? Is there a problem with that is or is it just incompatable?
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MDL is incompatible with the boatloader, if you have installed MK2 o NB4. You can brick your phone if you downgrade to MDL.
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wolfen1086 said:
Thanks. Can I simply root and remove Knox? I hate that app as much as my ex wife's cat.
Right now I have 12 hours left downloading the 4.4.2 one so after installation it will be rooted and recovery will be changed to cwm
Oh and why not go back to MDL? Is there a problem with that is or is it just incompatable?
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The Knox apps and the Knox flag are 2 different things. They are both security related, but the Knox flag is what gets tripped/set if you every flash a non-stock recovery to the phone.
The Knox apps are what can be used to Shut down/wipe a phone if stolen, etc
If you have ever had the MK2 or NB4 bootloader on the phone, you now have the Knox flag. You can not go back to a bootloader that doesn't have the Knox flag. MDL bootloader doesn't have the flag, so you can't flash it once you've had MK2 or NB4.
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wolfen1086 said:
Ok yall I have a brick It was a Tmobile SGH-M919 and the rirmware was M919UVUFNB4. Question, since it only boots into download mode, not even recovery, can I change between M919UVUFN4B and M919UVUEMK2 and M919UVUAMDL?
Just wondering cause I'm trying to learn how to change an operateing system on phones
I've gotten pretty good at rooting and roms now its time to learn something new
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Just FYI, the phone has multiple bits of software. The bootloader and the recovery are in their own partitions. The firmware is like device drivers under Windows, and there is the radio(s). And then there is the OS. It's made up of the kernel and the interface/apps.
When you download the stock ROM from Sammobile, you are getting a partition table, a radio, a recovery (stock), the firmware and the OS. Which is why everyone on several threads has suggested you to download and install that with ODIN. It should get you back to a working phone.
Rob

Mine trips the counter that says I have changed to a custom rom, so that means I have the knox flag right? Cause when I rooted I uninstalled and deleted the knox app, tried that once before I was rooted and wound up doing a hard reset because of that app

wolfen1086 said:
Mine trips the counter that says I have changed to a custom rom, so that means I have the knox flag right? Cause when I rooted I uninstalled and deleted the knox app, tried that once before I was rooted and wound up doing a hard reset because of that app
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No, the Custom ROM flag is different than the Knox flag.
If you boot into the Bootloader, if you have a Knox bootloader, it will say the words Knox and then have a 0x0, or 0x1, next to the word Knox.
No Knox shown, you have a bootloader that doesn't have Knox.
If 0x0 shown, the the Knox counter is NOT tripped. If 0x1 is shown, then you have a Knox bootloader and the Knox flag has been tripped.
Rob

mguzman0971 said:
MDL is incompatible with the boatloader, if you have installed MK2 o NB4. You can brick your phone if you downgrade to MDL.
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THIS IS INCORRECT! I keep seeing this all the time. THIS IS WRONG. It will NOT brick your device if you try to flash MDL firmware to a NB4 firmware. Odin will simply say "fail" and nothing will get written.
About your issue OP, you need to flash the NB4 tar file in Odin to recover from your soft brick. Then you can flash a recovery or what have you to get back to however you wish. You cannot go back to the MDL firmware after taking the MK2 or higher firmwares. The bootloader will block any attempts(as stated above).

I flashed nb4. Took me all day and night yesterday to download it, but I flashed it this morning and the spare phone is now back in its box safe and sound, I put my gmail address in it simply to make sure it worked, installed cwm recovery and chain fires root, whoever (if anybody) ends up needing it, I'll just do a factory reset and load her up again.
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