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Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.
holycow1 said:
Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.[/QUOT
You wont get the update over the air cause your phone is rooted. you will get an error. you need to unroot or flash the software your slef..
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Pajar0913 said:
holycow1 said:
Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.
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You wont get the update over the air cause your phone is rooted. you will get an error. you need to unroot or flash the software your slef..
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Ok. So should I back up through Titanium back up & flash through Odin?
Is there a non-KNOX trip root method for 4.4.2?
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Ok. So should I back up through Titanium back up & flash through Odin?
Is there a non-KNOX trip root method for 4.4.2?
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Honestly I couldn't tell you. I just did the update to my phone. I'm looking all that up now. As far as your back up. It's always a good thing to back up your current rom in case you ever wanna go back to it. What I did was just flash stock Rom with out root using Odin. And I received the update today. It just now finished. It takes a good min to download. It's 495mb rather big big file.
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Odin with the new firmware then boot into recovery and wipe the phone and cache. You'll be back to stock 4.4.2
I'm not sure if they're is any proven methods to achieve root without tripping Knox for 4.4.2, I personally don't care about tripping Knox and cf auto rooted.
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I'm of the frame of mind that you should never accept OTA updates unless you have no plans at aftermarket firmware modification. Since you are already rooted I would caution against it...even if only to establish good habits. This OTA might be safe but who knows if the next one locks up the bootloader? I'd Jump immediately to another device. I have no desire to get stuck on stock, especially with a risk of no exploit available for root...for a while? Forever? Who knows...that's a roll of the dice I'm not willing to take. The developers do amazing work and I am thankful for every moment of time they spend making roms, finding root, writing recoveries, etc etc etc. But I am not so arrogant as to expect every patched up whole to be cracked open again, by someone else no less.
It'll probably be less than a day (I've seen it take less than an hour on some devices) until a dev has a flashable zip and a pre-rooted Odin image that doesn't trip Knox.
...I've seen tons of impatient users posting after rushing to grab the update asking how to rootagain, or how to unlock the new bootloader, how to get back things they used to have...over many many many devices. Just because T-Mobile has been cool in the past is no indicator that they will continue to be cool in the future.
...patience...
eruscool said:
Odin with the new firmware then boot into recovery and wipe the phone and cache. You'll be back to stock 4.4.2
I'm not sure if they're is any proven methods to achieve root without tripping Knox for 4.4.2, I personally don't care about tripping Knox and cf auto rooted.
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Which version of cf auto root did you use? I read only the n9005 works. The one for our phone (n900t) doesn't. I want to use it, but not sure which one, so instead of trial and error, maybe you can guide me where you got yours. Thanks.
bobbyphoenix said:
Which version of cf auto root did you use? I read only the n9005 works. The one for our phone (n900t) doesn't. I want to use it, but not sure which one, so instead of trial and error, maybe you can guide me where you got yours. Thanks.
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use this one http://download.chainfire.eu/352/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.zip
you're right the one for the tmobile variant does not work, i tried it first and it put me in a bootloop.
here's the firmware you need http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26282
flash through odin, wipe the phone through the stock recovery then cf auto root also through the included odin.
EDIT: i for got to mention, if you use cf root YOU WILL TRIP KNOX. if you don't want to trip knox, don't update or update but don't cf auto root and wait till someone comes out with a workaround.
Hello,
I have always thought that OTA update would fail with a custom recovery. However after reading about another user's experience I decided to try it. This person stated that when they did the update CWM warned them that it would be replaced and asked if they wanted to fix it. It also warned that they would lose root and asked if they wanted to fix it. Sound familiar to anyone?
I did download the update but when I tried to install it failed. Now AT&T says my software is up to date, which is not true.
I am still on 4.1.2, rooted, CWM installed. Best way to upgrade now? I can't even find the OTA upgrade file that I downloaded.
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rblancrt said:
Hello,
I have always thought that OTA update would fail with a custom recovery. However after reading about another user's experience I decided to try it. This person stated that when they did the update CWM warned them that it would be replaced and asked if they wanted to fix it. It also warned that they would lose root and asked if they wanted to fix it. Sound familiar to anyone?
I did download the update but when I tried to install it failed. Now AT&T says my software is up to date, which is not true.
I am still on 4.1.2, rooted, CWM installed. Best way to upgrade now? I can't even find the OTA upgrade file that I downloaded.
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From my experience with 3 i747m phones, rooted systems well not take an ota update.
Yup, you cannot get the ota if rooted, or with a custom recovery. You need to be full stock. Best way is a fresh firmware flash and factory reset.
I don't have to install OTA, I just wanted to update to the latest official AT&T version. Is there a flashable available that will work coming from 4.1.2?
By the way I used triangle away, downloaded update again, thought it was going to work but the update crashed
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The latest firmware that's available is the 4.3 build. Havent been able to make a working one for 4.4.2 yet. But you can update using that firmware then use one of the threads in this section to update to kk.
Ok confused. Not sure how to install 4.3. Have read about bootloaders and modems needed before flashing. Guess I will have to keep reading. How to gy from 4.1.2 rooted, CWM, to the latest official which now I think is 4.3?
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You can either follow the OP through step 4, or flash the firmware from this thread using Odin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2722660
After that you can follow the remaining steps in this OP, or try to get the official ota to update to 4.4.2.
Since you do not have the 4.3 bootloader, you could start fresh by installing stock 4.1.1 from sammobile.com using Odin and then just keep running OTA until you get to 4.4.2. Remember, using Odin will wipe everything on the phone so make sure you backup your important data.
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Since you do not have the 4.3 bootloader, you could start fresh by installing stock 4.1.1 from sammobile.com using Odin and then just keep running OTA until you get to 4.4.2. Remember, using Odin will wipe everything on the phone so make sure you backup your important data.
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Everytime I try to download something from Sammobile.com my AVG pops up a warning. Is this normal? I haven't yet made it through all of their stalls, installs, etc. to get to downloading the actually firmware.
Used to love AVG. But I think theyve gone downhill and this is a perfect example. Its a false positive. (Unless your browsers been hijacked or youre clicking on a bad/fake link).
Ive been using sammobile for years and never had a single problem.
I have been using sammobile for quite some time.
The site is legit. Maybe avg is causing the problem. I can download with no problem.
Not trying to be annoying, as I said haven't done any of this for a while but.....could I not flash a stock recovery, use triangle away, unroot, and then get the ota to work?
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rblancrt said:
Not trying to be annoying, as I said haven't done any of this for a while but.....could I not flash a stock recovery, use triangle away, unroot, and then get the ota to work?
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You could try that but there is no guarantee that it'll take the OTA update after going through the procedure you described.
If you removed too many Samsung Apps, that may cause the OTA update to fail as well.
Don't think I removed any Samsung or ATT apps I just had them disabled. Since I tried to run the update though they have all resurrected themselves. I have never flashed a stock recovery or unrooted before though
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rblancrt said:
Don't think I removed any Samsung or ATT apps I just had them disabled. Since I tried to run the update though they have all resurrected themselves. I have never flashed a stock recovery or unrooted before though
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All I can say is try it and see what happens. If it doesn't work, the simplest would be to restore to completely stock and start the OTA update process.
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Since you do not have the 4.3 bootloader, you could start fresh by installing stock 4.1.1 from sammobile.com using Odin and then just keep running OTA until you get to 4.4.2. Remember, using Odin will wipe everything on the phone so make sure you backup your important data.
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I guess I can't read, but so far I have been unable to download the 4.1.1 from sammobile. I have gotten some media player, etc. which I don't know whether is still on my computer or not, but have not gotten to the download of the actual software.
Do I have to agree to everything that they try to get me to install?
You are probably hitting one of the ads that put up fake download buttons. Just a guess though.
It seems that registering helps
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Everywhere I look for guides and files all say they are for previous firmware revisions
I have attached a screenshot of my device info
Any help clarifying this would be greatly appreciated, trying to root tonight if I can without bricking.
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My signature...
Jp your post just had a signature for you i do t see any response, we're you agreeing with what u said or did your post not include what you originally tried to post?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...w-to-root-ng1-firmwares-leaving-knox-t2873867
Sorry for that..
That will work with the latest OTA update? Will I be able to return to stock recovery or should I just go with twrp? I've been waiting for lollipop on my devices OTA updates but now I want to root to debloat and get ex sd access back.
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Reading that through bit more it seems like he is downgrading to root? All the firmwares he is talking about are before this most recent update less than 30 days ago.
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Yes, downgrade->root->update (obviously the step 5 is to be used with newer kernel as you can read on important note) !
Thrust me, safe and clean
If you root using twrp with the tool available you'll end up with an old kernel (and from another tablet) with a malfunction pen
I just got a Verizon unit (had WiFi only previously). I am currently on build # KOT49H P605VVRUCNC2, can I root straight away from here or do I need to change versions first?
This is the tool to make root :
https://towelroot.com
Although it works with kernel's made until june last year, try it.
Works on mine with NK1 and a Nov. 11th kernel.
jpl69 said:
This is the tool to make root :
https://towelroot.com
Although it works with kernel's made until june last year, try it.
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I haven't tried that because. I think my kernel is after July (but I'm not sure). What will happen if my kernel too late, any harm? Is it possible to downgrade kernel?
I've been out of the root game for a couple of years. I feel lost !
omniatic said:
Works on mine with NK1 and a Nov. 11th kernel.
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Crap! We were posting at the same time and I missed your reply until just now!
OK. NK1 is the latest verizon - I haven't updated yet because I was afraid it might lock me out of doing anything. I have a couple of questions:
I can just update to NK1 and then do towelroot?
Towelroot is an apk - just sideload and run it?
THANKS!!!!!!
ckelly33 said:
Crap! We were posting at the same time and I missed your reply until just now!
OK. NK1 is the latest verizon - I haven't updated yet because I was afraid it might lock me out of doing anything. I have a couple of questions:
I can just update to NK1 and then do towelroot?
Towelroot is an apk - just sideload and run it?
THANKS!!!!!!
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After I updated, I just ran towelroot again. Reinstalled supersu and all was well.
Ran wanam xposed, everything works, no problems.
So did the update unroot you or were you rooted before hand? Word being rooted before the update (vs. me not being rooted beforehand) have any bearing in towelroot success?
I unrooted, updated, then rerooted. Can't update it if it's rooted.
I updated thru kies with a rooted device. Updated fine but I did lose root. I was disappointed to see a November kernel after that and figured towelroot wouldn't work, but it did. Thanks for your help.
I came from a wifi note (sm-p600) and was surprised that the 605 is only officially up to 4.4.2 I think my 600 was at 4.4.4.
I havent flashed a ROM yet...again, I'm rusty and really don't want to get into flashing one then another, then another. Got to decide on that next.
I tried towelroot on my SM-P605 running 4.4.2 (KOT49H.P605XXUCNJ1) and got the error: This phone is not currently supported.
Are there any other options while still not tripping Knox?
If not, is anyone on the same firmware build as me and has successfully rooted using CF Auto Root?
ApriliaM3 said:
I tried towelroot on my SM-P605 running 4.4.2 (KOT49H.P605XXUCNJ1) and got the error: This phone is not currently supported.
Are there any other options while still not tripping Knox?
If not, is anyone on the same firmware build as me and has successfully rooted using CF Auto Root?
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It will trip Knox but I rooted by flashing TWRP then using it to flash the latest SuperSU.zip file, I believe its 2.46, though there is the beta 2.49.
Or you can use the toolkit found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...olkit-unified-android-toolkit-galaxy-t2998214
It too will trip Knox...
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It will trip Knox but I rooted by flashing TWRP then using it to flash the latest SuperSU.zip file, I believe its 2.46, though there is the beta 2.49.
Or you can use the toolkit found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...olkit-unified-android-toolkit-galaxy-t2998214
It too will trip Knox...
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Thanks for the reply.
Is your device the same as mine and running the same firmware?
Is THIS the TWRP version that you used for yours?
As the title says I need a brave knowledgeable soul that it's willing to let me test a downgrade method for the galaxy s6 edge. I will flash official samsung files so there shouldn't be any issues.
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Sunderwear said:
As the title says I need a brave knowledgeable soul that it's willing to let me test a downgrade method for the galaxy s6 edge. I will flash official samsung files so there shouldn't be any issues.
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Why don't you use yours to test?
Sunderwear said:
As the title says I need a brave knowledgeable soul that it's willing to let me test a downgrade method for the galaxy s6 edge. I will flash official samsung files so there shouldn't be any issues.
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Because I have the international S6 edge emerald green..
What's your method?
I have one that I just upgraded with flashfire and Odin to the latest to keep root.
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What's your method?
I have one that I just upgraded with flashfire and Odin to the latest to keep root.
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I thought root didnt work with 51.1. yet..anyways it's by flashing samsung signed files from the factory.
Just flashing the firmware from sammobile?
Sunderwear said:
I thought root didnt work with 51.1. yet..anyways it's by flashing samsung signed files from the factory.
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@Sunderwear what are you looking to be tested? I just updated to the latest 5.1.1 OTA. Let me know how I can help
Sunderwear said:
As the title says I need a brave knowledgeable soul that it's willing to let me test a downgrade method for the galaxy s6 edge. I will flash official samsung files so there shouldn't be any issues.
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So I went to 5.1 then back using Odin to flash stock 5.0.2. No issues other than it reinstalled bloat
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clinthess said:
So I went to 5.1 then back using Odin to flash stock 5.0.2. No issues other than it reinstalled bloat
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You odin'd COF6 5.1.1 and we're able to fully revert back to 5.0.2?
Yessir. But I don't have twrp if that helps. I was able to, using 3.10.6. Bypassed the new boot loader no issue. Fwiw. I initially had issues installing 5.1.1 bc I installed the boot.img first, which wouldn't allow installation of system.img. Got around that, didn't like it, went back. Data still intact. No issues.
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Yessir. But I don't have twrp if that helps. I was able to, using 3.10.6. Bypassed the new boot loader no issue. Fwiw. I initially had issues installing 5.1.1 bc I installed the boot.img first, which wouldn't allow installation of system.img. Got around that, didn't like it, went back. Data still intact. No issues.
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So let me make sure I understand. You flashed the completely stock COF6 Odin tar and then reverted completely back to 5.0.2?
I only ask because I have spent the last 30 hours trying to do so lol
Being on stock recovery when you go to 5.1.1 makes the difference?
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ok I have a spare tmobile, usa 32gig s6 edge on 5.1.1 upgraded threw smart switch.... what do u need for me to do
Has anyone else been able to successfully downgrade from 5.1 to 5.0.2?
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What's the word?
Have we found a way to go back or at least root 5.1.1?
I may be wrong, but I think it is a communication issue. One user said he reverted from 5.1 to 5.02 - but he went on to say that he did not flash the BOOTLOADER (that was my interpretation) and he didn;t full flash the entire 5.1.1 tar - so in reality he never really updated - and going back to 5.02 wasn't an issue (obvoiusly)
That is my take on what I read here - but I may be mistaken - I am hoping I am wrong cause I sure woud like to get this whole thing behind us.....
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I may be wrong, but I think it is a communication issue. One user said he reverted from 5.1 to 5.02 - but he went on to say that he did not flash the BOOTLOADER (that was my interpretation) and he didn;t full flash the entire 5.1.1 tar - so in reality he never really updated - and going back to 5.02 wasn't an issue (obvoiusly)
That is my take on what I read here - but I may be mistaken - I am hoping I am wrong cause I sure woud like to get this whole thing behind us.....
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You are correct. I was mistaken. I flashed the boot and system partitions, not the ota or smart switch version. Once I did, I was stuck like everyone else.
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Did it start correctly with the older bootloader?
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Did it start correctly with the older bootloader?
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I got mine to boot the 5.1.1 rom/kernel on the old bootloader. But without flashing the bootloader, it had issues with the fingerprint reader and the ambient light sensor. It may have had other issues that I didn't discover in the brief time I had my phone this way.
So was anyone able to downgrade?
I was lured to upgrade to 5.1.1 with false root promises by this article here -- http://www.teamandroid.com/2015/06/...511-galaxy-s6-edge-g925t-lollipop-firmware/2/, which claimed it had a root package for SM-G925T for 5.1.1 -- but instead the link in it was redirecting to a root package for SM-G925F, which on t-mobile version is just causing a boot loop.
So I've been trying to downgrade to 5.0.2 but when I try to flash it with ODIN, my phone just displays an error message "sw rev. check fail. device: 2, binary: 1"
Anyone who was able to downgrade could you please post exact steps and links to the firmware you used?
I have rooted with ping pong and am completely stock with root.
How can I upgrade to 5.1.1 and keep root?
Since I am rooted I'm not getting ota. Is there a firmware only package I can flash with Odin?
Flashfire can flash the update but I get a boot loop from it.
Just wait... At this time there is no root options for 5.1.1
Not even with flashfire?
That will work if I can get/make a firmware only Odin flashable.
If you read around there is nothing right now. And if you flashed to 5.1.1 there's no way to downgrade back to 5.0.2 either. I would just wait it out until there's something out. That's what I'm doing.
You can update to 5.1.1 using Samsung Smart Switch, you will lose root once you update. Currently there is no root method for 5.1.1.
So, if root is important to you, than as others have stated don't update till a new root exploit is available.
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Either that or someone cooks up a rom 5.1.1 with root built in. But either way yeah root has to be figured out first
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In the past I have normally used mobileOdin to flash the new version and inject root, then flash the remaining partitions with a firmware only file made for Odin. I haven't seen any of those made yet. When someone makes that it might be possible.
There are some of those @TheArtiszan in the S6 section, but it seemed that the updater script or something still flashes a recovery img, even if it's not included in the package... http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...ndroid-5-1-1-update-available-t3135498/page21
I have an idea, but not sure if it works.
The official firmware is a TAR/MD5 package which basically is a zip package contains all img
Can we flash individual img using FlashFire and add SuperSU.zip to queue for flashing?
In this way, if it works, can still keep root and not trigger knox.
Anyone dare to try?
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OK, it wont work cause i think the whole rom is knox security enabled by default
even if you have a nandroid backup that was on 5.0.2 are you unable to downgrade from 5.1.1 just from flashing it?
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even if you have a nandroid backup that was on 5.0.2 are you unable to downgrade from 5.1.1 just from flashing it?
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There's root now. Look in the general thread for easy root links.
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Yeah I saw that. I'm waiting for a root that won't trip my KNOX.
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Yeah I saw that. I'm waiting for a root that won't trip my KNOX.
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That would be ideal, but it might be a while. So far, from what I can tell, 5.1.1 is very strict about root - so long as SEAndroid is Enforcing. And currently, the only way to set it otherwise is to install a custom kernel (therefore tripping KNOX). But, somehow the PingPongRoot guys managed to get root on 5.0.2 without tripping knox, so perhaps they'll pull through for us again?
Yeah that would be cool. Does anyone know if Samsung Pay is disabled only when you trip the KNOX? I know if KNOX is tripped you definitely lose Sam Pay. If you avoid tripping KNOX do you still have Sam pay capability?
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Millz120 said:
Yeah that would be cool. Does anyone know if Samsung Pay is disabled only when you trip the KNOX? I know if KNOX is tripped you definitely lose Sam Pay. If you avoid tripping KNOX do you still have Sam pay capability?
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Somehow I think SamPay will require Knox intact AND unmodified /system partition.(which they are enforcing by knox security aka kernel check)
Would using SuperSU's feature of installing to System allow keeping root while updating from 5.02 to 5.1.1 and not tripping KNOX? I don't have any real experience with using that feature, I used to use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper.
turn off the tmobile update to 5.1.1 message
Hi. I just got this phone and I am getting the update message i have to keep postponing. Its 5.0.2 now. Can I turn it off without rooting?