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[Q] how to update superuser

last week i root my galaxy s2 t989 with superuser 3.0.5.
however, i recently check it, i should root my phone with superuser 3.0.7.
i m a new user for android, and i don't know how to update it.
please help

If your already rooted, then there is no reason to root again.

is not good to make an update version ???
like normally updating software

lauwaifa said:
is not good to make an update version ???
like normally updating software
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Not really, once you're rooted you're rooted. Unless there are some additions that you really want on the new version then update, it wont (shoulnt) cause any troubles
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thank you so much !

In the app store look up SU binary. That should bring up an option that would update your SU. Sometimes you won't be able to do certain things if you don't update.

"No Tripping Flash Counter" root isn't rooted

I installed the rooted ROM at [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter [SPR L710VPALEN] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774722), although I stopped before installing CWM.
It appears I don't have root. I even try to let Superuser update itself from a 3.0.x version to 3.1.1. I am never prompted to grant root access, and it eventually says "Superuser has been denied Superuser permissions".
If Superuser itself cannot get root, then how can this be called a rooted ROM?
P.S., I would have posted in the thread, but I am apparently too much of a n00b per the forum settings.

I know this doesn't help you, but Superuser worked fine for me after using the same method. All I can suggest is to try flashing it again.
Edit: make sure you don't have both Superuser and SuperSU installed. They can conflict with each other.

novasource said:
I installed the rooted ROM at [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter [SPR L710VPALEN] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774722), although I stopped before installing CWM.
It appears I don't have root. I even try to let Superuser update itself from a 3.0.x version to 3.1.1. I am never prompted to grant root access, and it eventually says "Superuser has been denied Superuser permissions".
If Superuser itself cannot get root, then how can this be called a rooted ROM?
P.S., I would have posted in the thread, but I am apparently too much of a n00b per the forum settings.
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You need cwm.. Flash It and you will profit....
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EndlessDissent said:
I know this doesn't help you, but Superuser worked fine for me after using the same method. All I can suggest is to try flashing it again.
Edit: make sure you don't have both Superuser and SuperSU installed. They can conflict with each other.
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Thank you!
I only have Superuser installed. It's what came with the ROM. I haven't installed anything else since doing the ROM.
I already flashed twice, got the same results each time.
However, after the flash but before it started installing updates, I ran Superuser, clicked Info, and the entire line above tap to check for updates was green. However, after allowing the first update to install, the line had the left side red:
-rwxr-xr-x root shell /system/xbin/su
It was the same after the third update. I wonder if something about those two updates is disabling root?

Naddict said:
You need cwm.. Flash It and you will profit....
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Are you sure CWM is needed to get root? My understanding is you must have root before installing CWM?

novasource said:
Are you sure CWM is needed to get root? My understanding is you must have root before installing CWM?
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Track down the team epic site that walks you through... You should be able to do those steps successfully... Here found link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743780
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Naddict said:
Track down the team epic site that walks you through... You should be able to do those steps successfully... Here found link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743780
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Thanks. Just to make sure, are you saying that the original instructions (in the thread linked at top) are wrong to suggest you have a rooted ROM if you haven't installed CWM?
Also, that would mean http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...ot-l710vpalen-stock-rom-flash-counter-103351/ is incorrect.

novasource said:
Thanks. Just to make sure, are you saying that the original instructions (in the thread linked at top) are wrong to suggest you have a rooted ROM if you haven't installed CWM?
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CWM is used to install root and rooted roms. I have root for my wifes phone but I do not have CWM and all works fine. She actually would never use recovery but I do know how to flash one on there if necessary.
I am quite sure the tutorial is not incorrect and just a misunderstanding somewhere

playya said:
CWM is used to install root and rooted roms. I have root for my wifes phone but I do not have CWM and all works fine. She actually would never use recovery but I do know how to flash one on there if necessary.
I am quite sure the tutorial is not incorrect and just a misunderstanding somewhere
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I'm scratching my head because there's not much to misunderstand here. The instructions are simple; either you've installed the ROM or you haven't. Since Superuser appeared for the first time after installing the ROM, and the phone prompted me to install two updates after installing, that tells me that the ROM installed correctly.

Wonderful. Just followed the instructions for installing CWM that were linked from http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...ot-l710vpalen-stock-rom-flash-counter-103351/. Not only did that not give me a working copy of CWM, that also made CUSTOM BINARY DOWNLOAD report Yes (1 counts).

novasource said:
Thank you!
I only have Superuser installed. It's what came with the ROM. I haven't installed anything else since doing the ROM.
I already flashed twice, got the same results each time.
However, after the flash but before it started installing updates, I ran Superuser, clicked Info, and the entire line above tap to check for updates was green. However, after allowing the first update to install, the line had the left side red:
-rwxr-xr-x root shell /system/xbin/su
It was the same after the third update. I wonder if something about those two updates is disabling root?
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I see what your problem is. You're taking the OTA updates. Those erase /system/bin/su and unroot you. Before you take either OTA, install Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper from the Play Store, and back up your root. Then take both updates, reopen, Rootkeeper, and restore root.
No CWM needed.

EndlessDissent said:
I see what your problem is. You're taking the OTA updates. Those erase /system/bin/su and unroot you. Before you take either OTA, install Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper from the Play Store, and back up your root. Then take both updates, reopen, Rootkeeper, and restore root.
No CWM needed.
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Good catch... Hard as hell to get knee deep into troubleshooting while driving
OP... If that. Doesn't work... http://www.epiccm.org/2012/06/cwm-recovery-on-all-sgs3-lte-variants.html?m=1
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EndlessDissent said:
I see what your problem is. You're taking the OTA updates. Those erase /system/bin/su and unroot you. Before you take either OTA, install Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper from the Play Store, and back up your root. Then take both updates, reopen, Rootkeeper, and restore root.
No CWM needed.
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YOU ARE CORRECT! I'll add that to the comments of http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...ot-l710vpalen-stock-rom-flash-counter-103351/. Thank you for the help.
EDIT: Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper doesn't work. More details later.

Bad news: While it is correct that the OTA updates are killing my root, Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper won't work. Even with it installed,
When you start the app, it says it is "useless" for "Samsung phones updated via KIES or Odin...".
Will check on alternatives.

novasource said:
Bad news: While it is correct that the OTA updates are killing my root, Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper won't work. Even with it installed,
When you start the app, it says it is "useless" for "Samsung phones updated via KIES or Odin...".
Will check on alternatives.
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http://www.epiccm.org/2012/06/cwm-recovery-on-all-sgs3-lte-variants.html?m=1
Have you tried this?

Naddict said:
http://www.epiccm.org/2012/06/cwm-recovery-on-all-sgs3-lte-variants.html?m=1
Have you tried this?
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I tried once using the instructions at .http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-sph-l710-sprint-clockworkmod-recovery-99305/. Not only did it not install, it incremented my binary counter. Fortunately I was able to use Triangle Away to reset that.
I'm still not clear how CWM will help me. This is supposed to be a rooted ROM already. Not sure why I would need CWM.

novasource said:
I tried once using the instructions at .http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-sph-l710-sprint-clockworkmod-recovery-99305/. Not only did it not install, it incremented my binary counter. Fortunately I was able to use Triangle Away to reset that.
I'm still not clear how CWM will help me. This is supposed to be a rooted ROM already. Not sure why I would need CWM.
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It is a combo deal...It is not a ROM though...Try it...you may like it
this? http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7011CD883D5201B8&feature=view_all

Naddict said:
It is a combo deal...It is not a ROM though...Try it...you may like it
this? http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7011CD883D5201B8&feature=view_all
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OK, I tried it, and it appears to work. I had to use Triangle Away to get rid of the binary counter increment.
It's important to note that I only got this to work by not using the "No Tripping Flash Counter" ROM.

novasource said:
OK, I tried it, and it appears to work. I had to use Triangle Away to get rid of the binary counter increment.
It's important to note that I only got this to work by not using the "No Tripping Flash Counter" ROM.
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Good?!?
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Naddict said:
Good?!?
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Yes!

[Q] Factory Reset lead to problems with Titanium Backup (using CWM)

I've looked around and cannot find a solution specific to my issue. If someone can direct me to where I can find a solution I would be grateful.
I have a Samsung Epic 4g (Galaxy S) and have CWM on it. I recently did a factory reset of the phone and after resetting, Titanium Backup (not Pro) is stuck on the "asking for root rights...." screen, even after Superuser Elite asks to allow it.
I've seen things that say to uninstall the updates to SU and I've tried that. I've tried uninstalling SU Elite and Titanium Backup then reinstalling and I can't figure it out.
I'm somewhat of a novice when it comes to this, and brand new to this site so I'm hoping someone can help me with this while walking me through it if need be.
Thank you greatly.

Re-root maybe?
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Sounds like you may have lost root somehow.

nikon120 said:
Sounds like you may have lost root somehow.
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That's what I was thinking, but once I booted up my phone after the factory reset, superuser was still there. Doesn't that mean my phone is still rooted? Not to mention, I've booted up cwm a bunch still after the reset? I'm confused.

ET5115 said:
That's what I was thinking, but once I booted up my phone after the factory reset, superuser was still there. Doesn't that mean my phone is still rooted? Not to mention, I've booted up cwm a bunch still after the reset? I'm confused.
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To be sure, why not download the app root checker from the play store? Then you will know what you got.

TeamBringIt said:
To be sure, why not download the app root checker from the play store? Then you will know what you got.
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Awesome idea, I wasn't aware. However, I downloaded it, ran it and it verified my root access with no issues. HMPH. I have no idea what to do.

DEFINITELY A RE-ROOT, I say.
Superuser is just an app managing "ALLOWs" and "DENYs". The real issue should be that you lost/broke your su binary in /system/xbin... If you have CWM then easily recover by flashing the latest SU zip package found at http://androidsu.com/superuser/ . Good luck
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Team Epic has a CWM flashable that should also clear any binary remnants and get you back rooted the right way.. You can then flash TWRP and all that afterwards if you want.
epiccm.blogspot.com/p/about-epic-cm.html is the site link...mught help you.

AndyYan said:
DEFINITELY A RE-ROOT, I say.
Superuser is just an app managing "ALLOWs" and "DENYs". The real issue should be that you lost/broke your su binary in /system/xbin... If you have CWM then easily recover by flashing the latest SU zip package. Good luck
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Well, you have all been a big help. I downloaded this latest su zip and was about to see if it was the issue. Right before I did that, I said "what the hell" and tried flashing via rom manager one more time. You guessed it, it worked. All the headaches for no apparent reason. However, I thank everyone. I'm a new member to the site and it's refreshing to see many try and come to your aid.

Root manager other than SuperSu in 4.3?

Hello, I cannot get either "Superuser" to work in mk4 4.3.
Every time I try, I end up having to dirty flash my ROM to get a working root again.
Any help is great!
Thanks
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MeetFace said:
Hello, I cannot get either "Superuser" to work in mk4 4.3.
Every time I try, I end up having to dirty flash my ROM to get a working root again.
Any help is great!
Thanks
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Because I've had so much interest, and so few takers, I'll add that this may be specific to Synergy ROM mk4. When I get a chance to flash lorjays again I may update my experience.
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May I ask why do you prefer Superuser over SuperSU? Don't they kinda do the same thing with SuperSU being updated constantly?
Use Kingoroot. In the end it'll put SuperSU on your phone, but you should be able to then install Superuser and remove SuperSU.

ecs87 said:
May I ask why do you prefer Superuser over SuperSU? Don't they kinda do the same thing with SuperSU being updated constantly?
Use Kingoroot. In the end it'll put SuperSU on your phone, but you should be able to then install Superuser and remove SuperSU.
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Well, in the past, for whatever reason I had problems running an app or two using a certain su app.
I thought this may have been the problem with my current mk4 ROM, turns out it may relate to the boot.img that is currently being used.

[Q] Broke my SuperSU app by installing busybox?

(My first post on the forums! You guys have helped me out so much in the past, and I'm excited to finally communicate with you. Wish me luck!)
I recently installed the 4.3 OTA update on my Samsung Galaxy S3, using the zips and instructions from these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991
It went perfectly, without a hitch. Everything was running great, and I was loving everything about stock, de-samsungized 4.3, root and custom bootloader.
I was very interested in the dSploit app, and installed it, found out I needed Busybox. I installed it using the busybox installer. This is where the trouble begins. SuperSU needed a binary update after I installed busybox for some reason, even though I was fairly certain I already had the latest binaries. I tried running it through the automatic update with my teamwin bootloader, but it only booted into recovery and nothing installed. After googling it for a bit, decided to re-flash SuperSU. Suddenly, I began recieving the message "Unfortunately, SuperSU has stopped working" every time I tried to access anything requiring root priviledges. Anything that had already been granted root access (including Titanium Backup, thank goodness) seemed to work fine as long as it didn't need to request additional privileges. Unfortunately, I'm now locked out of ES File Explorer and the xposed framework (all prior installed modules continue to function though)
My initial thought was to wipe and reload using the process I used to get here in the first place, but I'm running 4.3 now, and I understand that downgrading is impossible now, and no flashable 4.3 stock roms seem to exist.
So I'm lost, guys. I need my root back somehow... If I forgot any information you think would be relevant and/or helpful, let me know and I'll provide anything you need. I've been googling and searching the forums for days, but I haven't found anyone with this exact problem.
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RidleyofZebes said:
(My first post on the forums! You guys have helped me out so much in the past, and I'm excited to finally communicate with you. Wish me luck!)
I recently installed the 4.3 OTA update on my Samsung Galaxy S3, using the zips and instructions from these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991
It went perfectly, without a hitch. Everything was running great, and I was loving everything about stock, de-samsungized 4.3, root and custom bootloader.
I was very interested in the dSploit app, and installed it, found out I needed Busybox. I installed it using the busybox installer. This is where the trouble begins. SuperSU needed a binary update after I installed busybox for some reason, even though I was fairly certain I already had the latest binaries. I tried running it through the automatic update with my teamwin bootloader, but it only booted into recovery and nothing installed. After googling it for a bit, decided to re-flash SuperSU. Suddenly, I began recieving the message "Unfortunately, SuperSU has stopped working" every time I tried to access anything requiring root priviledges. Anything that had already been granted root access (including Titanium Backup, thank goodness) seemed to work fine as long as it didn't need to request additional privileges. Unfortunately, I'm now locked out of ES File Explorer and the xposed framework (all prior installed modules continue to function though)
My initial thought was to wipe and reload using the process I used to get here in the first place, but I'm running 4.3 now, and I understand that downgrading is impossible now, and no flashable 4.3 stock roms seem to exist.
So I'm lost, guys. I need my root back somehow... If I forgot any information you think would be relevant and/or helpful, let me know and I'll provide anything you need. I've been googling and searching the forums for days, but I haven't found anyone with this exact problem.
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Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling SuperSu?

Since SuperSU was flashed to the device via Odin, it is registered as a system app. The app store only has the open option, and I can't access the app in the system folder without root privileges, which it won't give me, so...
Yeah. Unless there's a script I can run through recovery, that's a dead end.
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there is a zip of SuperSU you can flash from recovery
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I've tried this. In fact, that was when SuperSU began force-closing. I just need to completely uninstall it and start fresh, I think.
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Have you tried the cleanup/unroot options inside supersu settings? Then starting over?

I might not have stated this directly before, but the SuperSU app won't launch. I tap on it and immediately get the "Unfortunately" error. I have no way of accessing anything within the app.
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RidleyofZebes said:
I might not have stated this directly before, but the SuperSU app won't launch. I tap on it and immediately get the "Unfortunately" error. I have no way of accessing anything within the app.
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Ok well then find one of the 4.3 roms in development that you can use. I'm on s3rx 3.0 and other than some hiccups (still a wip atm) that are liveable, its pretty stable. You can flash this safely in recovery without the bootloader/modem package since you already took the OTA without risk of bricking. Its prerooted so no worries there. Good luck

pre4speed said:
Ok well then find one of the 4.3 roms in development that you can use. I'm on s3rx 3.0 and other than some hiccups (still a wip atm) that are liveable, its pretty stable. You can flash this safely in recovery without the bootloader/modem package since you already took the OTA without risk of bricking. Its prerooted so no worries there. Good luck
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Thank you for that. It's always good to have a fallback option.
I'm still wondering though, is there a script I could flash that would completely remove SuperSU / BusyBox / superUSER (CWM) to scratch and allow me to re-flash CF-Autoroot? Barring that, how difficult would it be to code one myself?
FIXED IT.
Apparently, flashing the latest version of SuperSU from the developer's website (1.86) will not work on Android 4.3. I flashed version 1.65 as provided in the original 4.3 Rooting Guide, then updated it in the Play Store followed by a binary update and re-installed BusyBox, and everything is back to running order. Thank you all for your help and advice!