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Question & Answer
"Root de la Vega" What kind of name is that?
It's named after Ralph de la Vega, CEO of AT&T Mobility.
Can I flash custom recovery/kernel/rom without tripping KNOX flags?
No, Flashing a custom ROM will trip the flag
No, Flashing a custom Kernel will trip the flag
No, Flashing a custom Recovery will trip the flag
Will this set a tripped KNOX flag 0x1 back to 0x0?
No.
Can you help me with the drivers?
No, but you can head over here for help with drivers.
How do I get into download mode?
Method 1: adb reboot download
Method 2: Pull the battery out, unplug the usb cable, reinsert the battery. Hold Volume Down + Home + Power. Follow the instructions on the screen.
Will rooting or downgrading or flashing stock trip the Knox flags?
No, KNOX flags will not be tripped!
Will root survive a factory reset?
Yes, it does.
Will root survive an OTA update?
The Sprint Note 3 has survived an OTA update, you only need to perform the sdcard steps again to get root. However, you should NOT take OTA updates, it is possible for them to patch the root method with an OTA update.
Do I need have to fully wipe my phone when rooting?
Yes. If you don't you will get lots of nasty force closes. I have yet to find a way around it.
Does Xposed Framework work?
Yes, it has been updated to work fully with the Note 3.
Will rooting report system as custom and display an unlocked lock on the initial boot screen?
Yes. It can be removed by installing Xposed Framework with Wanam Xposed and enabling Security hacks > Fake system status.
Titanium Backup is giving me problems, how can I fix it?
Check out this thread. If you are still having issues, please take your concerns to the dev, they are not related to rooting.
How do I open a 7z file?
With 7zip or IZArc!
Can I do this on OS X/Linux?
No, not until heimdall is updated to support the Note 3.
Can I unroot?
Yes, use SuperSU full unroot option or flash stock.
I am getting a "Prevention Information" popup after running a root app, how do I disable it?
From terminal emulator or adb shell as root, run; pm disable com.sec.knox.seandroid
Or freeze the Knox apps with Titanium Backup.
I am getting Force Closes after flashing, how can I fix it?
Make sure you are flashing the CSC file! If you are, try flashing AP and CSC separately.
Good stuff. did this yesterday and it worked like a charm.
Thank you so much!
just to confirm, i can remove/freeze system apps, run ad blocker, xposed, etc, with just root, right? I have never not fully "unlocked" a device and just stayed with the stock ROM. So just want to confirm before using this. And thanks btw for your hard work on this.
And one last one...Im pretty sure I wont be able to get OTA's so how would one go about updating once an OTA has been released without tripping knox?
EDIT: I just saw the 2nd post with all the FAQ...some reason it didnt show before until after I posted. But still wondering about the OTAs
droidkevlar said:
just to confirm, i can remove/freeze system apps, run ad blocker, xposed, etc, with just root, right? I have never not fully "unlocked" a device and just stayed with the stock ROM. So just want to confirm before using this. And thanks btw for your hard work on this.
And one last one...Im pretty sure I wont be able to get OTA's so how would one go about updating once an OTA has been released without tripping knox?
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You can do all of that fun stuff with root
I am unsure on the OTAs, haven't had any roll out yet.
I can also confirm, worked like a charm. Did it today, and didn't lose any data. Phone was how it was pre root, but with added SU goodness.
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Hey designgears,
Nice to see you're still at it. Your old Cognition ROM (eclair iirc) was one of the first ROMs I ran on my SGS1 Captivate, years ago, before I settled on CyanogenMod. Didn't see you in SGS3-land, but here you are again with the Note3. Hey-ohhhh.
Thanks.
Rooted through this method today. It worked like a charm. Now my Note 3 feels invincible. Thank you!
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Ok. Here we go. I've been on android for a long time and never heard of KNOX. What the hell is this and do we need it?
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EDIT: I forgot--Google is my friend. Nvm
I'm sorry if this is too off topic but, while it IS wonderful to have a root method like this and I'm VERY grateful for it, most of what I read online states that a custom recovery will mess with knox and cause issues. I dint know if I could keep an android phone and not flash custom roms! I'm still within my return window with t mobile (I'm coming from Sprint) and I'm actually thinking about trading for a nexus 4. Hope we get a functioning recovery soon!
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Any difference between this and the root method from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
Any reason for someone who has rooted using the other method to redo it with this one?
Thanks
hdad2 said:
Any difference between this and the root method from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
Any reason for someone who has rooted using the other method to redo it with this one?
Thanks
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Same thing
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hdad2 said:
Any difference between this and the root method from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
Any reason for someone who has rooted using the other method to redo it with this one?
Thanks
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This process is a little different from the way I did it too. What is the purpose of the additional CSC file? Should I reroot using this new method?
jimmydigital00 said:
This process is a little different from the way I did it too. What is the purpose of the additional CSC file? Should I reroot using this new method?
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jimmydigital00 said:
This process is a little different from the way I did it too. What is the purpose of the additional CSC file? Should I reroot using this new method?
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No need to root again, I just separated the two files.
This worked like a charm. Thanks DG!
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Finall got all files downloaded gonna flash tomorrow after work Thank you so very much designgears, chainfire and all testers for the hard work that brought us root to the G-Note 3 you guys snd XDA are unstoppable!!!
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Works perfectly. Donated!
I can also confirm that if you bork stuff while rooted, you can Odin the stock rom over everything and start over without throwing the Knox flag.
I know that flashing a custom recovery or custom ROM will trip the KNOX counter...BUT...
1. is it possible to adb sideload (after Root de la Vega)?
and...
2. if you CAN adb push and pull, can we pull the framework-res.apk, modify it to our liking and push it back...or will this be the same as flashing a custom ROM which will trip KNOX?
I am curious because I'd like to enable unlimited wifi tethering like I did on my old Galaxy S III by creating a flashable zip (however with Note 3 I wouldn't make it flashable, just push)
Thanks for your work putting this together.
It was real easy to do, and root certainly is appealing. One thing I need is device-level encryption, and that is so far unavailable on a rooted N3.
I've even tried Xposed Framework with Wanam Xposed, and checked System status via TriangleAway:
Counter = 0
Binary = Official
System = Official
But somehow device still won't encryp. Back to stock I go (a 3rd time)...
Is there a root for the stock 4.3 CMK7 ? Will the current methods work on new firmware?
I'm looking for the same thing I hope we can get that answer soon
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kingnarkissos said:
Is there a root for the stock 4.3 CMK7 ? Will the current methods work on new firmware?
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Haven't tried it yet but here a link which has step by step instructions on how to root SGH-T889 running android 4.3.
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/12/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-t-mobile-sgh.html
Please Note: This method will most likely trip the KNOX/Warranty Bit counter so try it on your own risk.
Rooting is not the same on 4.3.
ciphercodes said:
Haven't tried it yet but here a link which has step by step instructions on how to root SGH-T889 running android 4.3.
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/12/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-t-mobile-sgh.html
Please Note: This method will most likely trip the KNOX/Warranty Bit counter so try it on your own risk.
Rooting is not the same on 4.3.
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Yeah, I just ran chainfires method and something odd happened. I have superuser but I can't actually use it. That KNOX BS prevents it from running and issues a security warning that reads "Unauthorized access to a secure area has been blocked tap to learn more" .
kingnarkissos said:
Yeah, I just ran chainfires method and something odd happened. I have superuser but I can't actually use it. That KNOX BS prevents it from running and issues a security warning that reads "Unauthorized access to a secure area has been blocked tap to learn more" .
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You can disable KNOX... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482306
kozmo21 said:
You can disable KNOX... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482306
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This only disables the notifications from KNOX and not the KNOX itself.
I think notifications can be disabled within KNOX settings.
kingnarkissos, can you go in download mode and let us know what the Warranty Bit shows ?
Here's how to root or at least should work. Another user posted link in Mr R root that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47694353
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ciphercodes said:
This only disables the notifications from KNOX and not the KNOX itself.
I think notifications can be disabled within KNOX settings.
kingnarkissos, can you go in download mode and let us know what the Warranty Bit shows ?
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In download mode it showed KNOX was tripped. 'Knox warranty void: 1" I ended up bricking it, which is all the same, I don't like KNOX bs anyway. I spun a good yarn to T-Mobile so I'll have another Note 2 tomorrow hopefully on something below 4.3 lol.
kingnarkissos said:
In download mode it showed KNOX was tripped. I ended up bricking it, which is all the same, I don't like KNOX bs anyway. I spun a good yarn to T-Mobile so I'll have another Note 2 tomorrow hopefully on something below 4.3 lol.
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Sorry to hear that, can you elaborate how it got bricked ?
Did you try to downgrade ? Flashing it back to 4.3 worked for S3 phones.
I mean once you are on 4.3 you cannot flash back to an older version (4.1.x) easily. There must be a way via CWM or TWRP.
Some of us can use this information to NOT brick our phones.
kintwofan said:
Here's how to root or at least should work. Another user posted link in Mr R root that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47694353
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Just a quick update on this. I used the vroot method. I am now rooted with xposed and titanium backup confirmed (I factory reset after ota. .... Much smoother! !) Oh and Knox is still at 0!! Hooray for new
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ciphercodes said:
Sorry to hear that, can you elaborate how it got bricked ?
Did you try to downgrade ? Flashing it back to 4.3 worked for S3 phones.
I mean once you are on 4.3 you cannot flash back to an older version (4.1.x) easily. There must be a way via CWM or TWRP.
Some of us can use this information to NOT brick our phones.
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So...I decided to take a chance and try to some things on my own, you know, show some initiative. I wont be doing that again and have gained even more respect for what you devs do. Here's the story. I tried to root the 4.3 using chainfires method, after being warned by psycho4us4 that it prolly wouldn't work. It did work, sort of... I had superuser and with root explorer was able to access system files. However, I could not alter or change any of the files. When I attempted to, the explorer would stop responding. It's also important to note I was never asked to grant SU permissions. That dialogue was replaced with the notification bar warning (apparently issued by KNOX) that an app was trying to access a restricted area of the device (lol) which I ignored. So now I have my Note II with SU and KNOX tripped showing warranty void 1 in the download mode So I'm thinking "Ok I'll flash back to MD1 with ODIN" Into download mode I go and start up ol ODIN I load the firmware and let it run. After going through the entire process it fails at the end. Now I have the Keis firmware failed screen....a brick.
kingnarkissos said:
So...I decided to take a chance and try to some things on my own, you know, show some initiative. I wont be doing that again and have gained even more respect for what you devs do. Here's the story. I tried to root the 4.3 using chainfires method, after being warned by psycho4us4 that it prolly wouldn't work. It did work, sort of... I had superuser and with root explorer was able to access system files. However, I could not alter or change any of the files. When I attempted to, the explorer would stop responding. It's also important to note I was never asked to grant SU permissions. That dialogue was replaced with the notification bar warning (apparently issued by KNOX) that an app was trying to access a restricted area of the device (lol) which I ignored. So now I have my Note II with SU and KNOX tripped showing warranty void 1 in the download mode So I'm thinking "Ok I'll flash back to MD1 with ODIN" Into download mode I go and start up ol ODIN I load the firmware and let it run. After going through the entire process it fails at the end. Now I have the Keis firmware failed screen....a brick.
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Not really bricked. Odin the 4.3 ota again and you'll be right back up and running
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kingnarkissos said:
In download mode it showed KNOX was tripped. 'Knox warranty void: 1" I ended up bricking it, which is all the same, I don't like KNOX bs anyway. I spun a good yarn to T-Mobile so I'll have another Note 2 tomorrow hopefully on something below 4.3 lol.
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Just curious how you say to have gotten one by tomorrow ive been with tmobile/voicestream for 13 years and have yet to see a phone overnighted, also to fix your problem just odin it again with new 4.3 phone will work
kintwofan said:
Just a quick update on this. I used the vroot method. I am now rooted with xposed and titanium backup confirmed (I factory reset after ota. .... Much smoother! !) Oh and Knox is still at 0!! Hooray for new
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I'm having trouble deciding which route I want to go. Don't know if I want to use the link with the Warranty Safe Root way(have already cooked the rom per it's directions) or if I want to go the cf-auto root way. I don't know anything about the vroot method. Any thoughts or insight would be appreciated.
I thought I'd be clever too and do a factory reset from the phone and it hung on the tmo boot screen, but I ended up downloading the stock 4.3 tar file and ODIN back to 4.3 and it works again.
The Chainfire root way is definitely not the way to go as it does not work.
Going to try the vroot way to see if I can get root back.
With vroot download supersu before starting them make sure as soon as the phone boots up after rooting open supersu update binary and let it delete the other manager.
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where is the link for vroot?
solidmac said:
where is the link for vroot?
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There isn't one. All links were removed from xda because some suspicion of the program as a virus. If you followed the link I posted you would see that. Now there are tons of positive reports and I used it. My antivirus didn't report it either. However, if you feel comfortable using it you will need to Google it
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Honestly is probably best for most users to hold tight until mattlowry gets the knox free and rooted version released
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kintwofan said:
There isn't one. All links were removed from xda because some suspicion of the program as a virus. If you followed the link I posted you would see that. Now there are tons of positive reports and I used it. My antivirus didn't report it either. However, if you feel comfortable using it you will need to Google it
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Honestly is probably best for most users to hold tight until mattlowry gets the knox free and rooted version released
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I dont have a custom recovery installed, so i need to do this. I see lots of different versions of vroot, is the latest version?
EDIT:nvm its been awhile since ive been in the rooting scene. Im coming from an N1. XD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562994
Keep in mind that if you follow this method, you are tripping the knox flag to a 0x1. This completed voids your warranty and until this moment there's no possible way to research back to a 0x0.
I used Oden to apply the Chainfire root. After rebooting, Knox told me it prevented an unauthorized app from accessing secure area of the phone. Then SuperSU FC'ed. I went to play, updated it SuperSU, and opened it. After a brief pause, it asked "Do you want to disable Knox?". I pondered that question intently, and in about 10ms, answered OF COURSE! It the successfully disabled knox.
After, go into the play store, and download "Rom Manager". Open it up, and click on the first tab. "Recovery Setup" (Even if it says that you already have CWM recovery installed, still do these steps) After clicking on that tab, on the list "Install or Update recovery" Click on ClockwordMod Recovery. Then click on our device name. A box will pop up suggesting you have Wi-Fi (If you're not already on it), just click OK. And then it'll automatically download it and flash it. There you go.
Sorry if this has already been posted. People might think that there is a different way to root 4.3, just here to help.
Took part of this from erkme73
Thanks .. worked like a charm
Thanks a lot. This method worked for me and very quickly! Thanks!
Thnaks for testing this out. This method worked for me. I had the old CFautoroot before and it didn't work for me, so after downloading the CFautoroot that's specifically for t-mo version, this worked for me.
I didn't even have to go and download a custom recovery. I managed to have the stock recovery on.
Previous to 4.3 I flashed Robinson's stock root-injected 4.1.2 rom. Would this method work for me? And can I skip the CWM recovery part?
ungraph said:
Previous to 4.3 I flashed Robinson's stock root-injected 4.1.2 rom. Would this method work for me? And can I skip the CWM recovery part?
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If you use ODIN to flash the 4.3 stock, then you'll lose root, and then you'll have to do this method to get root back. You already have root. Wait until Mr. R puts out the root injected 4.3 so you won't lose your root.
nmw407 said:
If you use ODIN to flash the 4.3 stock, then you'll lose root, and then you'll have to do this method to get root back. You already have root. Wait until Mr. R puts out the root injected 4.3 so you won't lose your root.
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I flashed Robinson's stock root-injected 4.1.2 via Odin and I installed the 4.3 update via Kies yesterday so I lost root. I was wondering if this method would work for me.
It worked for me through ODIN. My mistake was using the old CFautoroot that was for the note 2 international. Once I used the one for t-mo, it all worked exactly as the OP stated - I stopped before the recovery installation since I didn't need TWRP or CWM
is it possible to be rooted and still use knox?
nmw407 said:
It worked for me through ODIN. My mistake was using the old CFautoroot that was for the note 2 international. Once I used the one for t-mo, it all worked exactly as the OP stated - I stopped before the recovery installation since I didn't need TWRP or CWM
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Just did exactly what you said and it works! I gained root on stock 4.3.
bones718 said:
is it possible to be rooted and still use knox?
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From what I have seen with my phone NO... But hey still very early. The root method here is great. I found that I had to also uninstall Knox completly with TiBu and seems to hold. I found booting back into recovery even with Knox on Freeze it still would interfere ... Just my limited experience speaking here also.
Thanks again for the root method. Seems 4.3 is pretty smooth, I installed exposed and Wanam and all is good, Also flashed Devil Kernel and good good so far.:victory:
youStolemylaptop said:
There you go.
Sorry if this has already been posted. People might think that there is a different way to root 4.3, just here to help.
Took part of this from erkme73
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Worked like a charm. Thanks for posting the steps!
This method works but i did a master reset to start "fresh" after rooting and i got on the Tmobile 4g lte screen loop.
Any ideas?
lmarranzino said:
From what I have seen with my phone NO... But hey still very early. The root method here is great. I found that I had to also uninstall Knox completly with TiBu and seems to hold. I found booting back into recovery even with Knox on Freeze it still would interfere ... Just my limited experience speaking here also.
Thanks again for the root method. Seems 4.3 is pretty smooth, I installed exposed and Wanam and all is good, Also flashed Devil Kernel and good good so far.:victory:
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What do you meant by interfere?
DKM119 said:
This method works but i did a master reset to start "fresh" after rooting and i got on the Tmobile 4g lte screen loop.
Any ideas?
What do you meant by interfere?
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Mine hung on that screen for longer than I wanted (started getting nervous) but eventually the phone finished loading up
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Keep in mind that if you follow this method, you are tripping the knox flag to a 0x1. This completed voids your warranty and until this moment there's no possible way to revert back to a 0x0. This means you can't downgrade your firmware and if you try, even via Odin, it wouldn't let you and lock your phone. Just a heads up. OP shouldve posted this in the post but if you don't mind flashing custom rooms etc, then by all means go ahead.
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Keep in mind that if you follow this method, you are tripping the knox flag to a 0x1. This completed voids your warranty and until this moment there's no possible way to research back to a 0x0. This means you can't downgrade your firmware and if you try, even via Odin, it wouldn't let you and lock your phone. Just a heads up. OP shouldve posted this in the post but if you don't mind flashing custom rooms etc, then by all means go ahead.
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I'll edit it in right now to let everyone know.
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it's work on my NOTE2
Thanks
I thank the OP for updating the post to reflect the Knox issue... but I think anyone with a Note 2 should have already been aware of such issues when rooting. Even if they weren't around for the "modified/binary count/triangle away" disscussions... those that did root, still had to deal with those issue and heard all about them... and now that we've headed towards that next phase of OTA's... it's hard to think anyone has not seen/heard/read something on Knox itself... I can hardly go 5 topics without seeing something related to Knox posted within the first 2 pages... I commend the OP for updating... but how can people be so careless with a phone that cost $400-700. Especially when the first rule of xda is "read first" followed by rule two "at your own risk"
Ultimately, I tripped out about the whole "modified status won't allow OTA's / void warranty" at first and in the end it was patched... I hope for everyone's sake, this gets the same solution... like Coug, I'm holding out for the moment, but I do have faith
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I thank the OP for updating the post to reflect the Knox issue... but I think anyone with a Note 2 should have already been aware of such issues when rooting. Even if they weren't around for the "modified/binary count/triangle away" disscussions... those that did root, still had to deal with those issue and heard all about them... and now that we've headed towards that next phase of OTA's... it's hard to think anyone has not seen/heard/read something on Knox itself... I can hardly go 5 topics without seeing something related to Knox posted within the first 2 pages... I commend the OP for updating... but how can people be so careless with a phone that cost $400-700. Especially when the first rule of xda is "read first" followed by rule two "at your own risk"
Ultimately, I tripped out about the whole "modified status won't allow OTA's / void warranty" at first and in the end it was patched... I hope for everyone's sake, this gets the same solution... like Coug, I'm holding out for the moment, but I do have faith
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In a perfect world this is completely true, but this isn't a prefect world. Most the post I see about Knox is "what is Knox" instead of people searching. That's why we have so many people already bootlooping trying to go back to 4.1. I'm glad the op updated the Knox warranty but because I'm pretty sure there will be some people shocked by theirs being tripped.
On a side not Vroot and kingo will root without messing up the Knox. Just Google them. They were removed from xda because some suspicion of virus, but I didn't have s problem
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So if you flash Mr. Robinson's stock root injected update you lose root. He has ripped out knox so if you use this method, you shouldn't have any issues and regain root?
Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.
holycow1 said:
Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.[/QUOT
You wont get the update over the air cause your phone is rooted. you will get an error. you need to unroot or flash the software your slef..
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Pajar0913 said:
holycow1 said:
Hey guys, I'm rooted with a few system modifications (few apps deleted, very minor changes, mostly through xposed). What should I do before I OTA update to 4.4.2?
Also, I'm not KNOX tripped, so I'd like to keep it that way.
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You wont get the update over the air cause your phone is rooted. you will get an error. you need to unroot or flash the software your slef..
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Ok. So should I back up through Titanium back up & flash through Odin?
Is there a non-KNOX trip root method for 4.4.2?
holycow1 said:
Ok. So should I back up through Titanium back up & flash through Odin?
Is there a non-KNOX trip root method for 4.4.2?
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Honestly I couldn't tell you. I just did the update to my phone. I'm looking all that up now. As far as your back up. It's always a good thing to back up your current rom in case you ever wanna go back to it. What I did was just flash stock Rom with out root using Odin. And I received the update today. It just now finished. It takes a good min to download. It's 495mb rather big big file.
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Odin with the new firmware then boot into recovery and wipe the phone and cache. You'll be back to stock 4.4.2
I'm not sure if they're is any proven methods to achieve root without tripping Knox for 4.4.2, I personally don't care about tripping Knox and cf auto rooted.
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I'm of the frame of mind that you should never accept OTA updates unless you have no plans at aftermarket firmware modification. Since you are already rooted I would caution against it...even if only to establish good habits. This OTA might be safe but who knows if the next one locks up the bootloader? I'd Jump immediately to another device. I have no desire to get stuck on stock, especially with a risk of no exploit available for root...for a while? Forever? Who knows...that's a roll of the dice I'm not willing to take. The developers do amazing work and I am thankful for every moment of time they spend making roms, finding root, writing recoveries, etc etc etc. But I am not so arrogant as to expect every patched up whole to be cracked open again, by someone else no less.
It'll probably be less than a day (I've seen it take less than an hour on some devices) until a dev has a flashable zip and a pre-rooted Odin image that doesn't trip Knox.
...I've seen tons of impatient users posting after rushing to grab the update asking how to rootagain, or how to unlock the new bootloader, how to get back things they used to have...over many many many devices. Just because T-Mobile has been cool in the past is no indicator that they will continue to be cool in the future.
...patience...
eruscool said:
Odin with the new firmware then boot into recovery and wipe the phone and cache. You'll be back to stock 4.4.2
I'm not sure if they're is any proven methods to achieve root without tripping Knox for 4.4.2, I personally don't care about tripping Knox and cf auto rooted.
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Which version of cf auto root did you use? I read only the n9005 works. The one for our phone (n900t) doesn't. I want to use it, but not sure which one, so instead of trial and error, maybe you can guide me where you got yours. Thanks.
bobbyphoenix said:
Which version of cf auto root did you use? I read only the n9005 works. The one for our phone (n900t) doesn't. I want to use it, but not sure which one, so instead of trial and error, maybe you can guide me where you got yours. Thanks.
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use this one http://download.chainfire.eu/352/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.zip
you're right the one for the tmobile variant does not work, i tried it first and it put me in a bootloop.
here's the firmware you need http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26282
flash through odin, wipe the phone through the stock recovery then cf auto root also through the included odin.
EDIT: i for got to mention, if you use cf root YOU WILL TRIP KNOX. if you don't want to trip knox, don't update or update but don't cf auto root and wait till someone comes out with a workaround.
I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
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Djspinister said:
I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
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Yeah, that's correct. If you go stock 4.3, via the OTA update, you will lose root initially. You can, however, always re-root. The most effective method to root after 4.3 is to Odin TWRP, boot to recovery and then flash SuperSu and the knox remover tool via recovery. Install SuperSU from the play store and run it to update the binary when prompted.
Won't let me thank you on the mobile app, so I'll do it when I get home from work, thank you! Wonder what happened to the premium version I paid for. Took my money and ran lol
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Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.
audit13 said:
Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.
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So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.
Djspinister said:
So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.
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There is no question about it. You can root even after 4.3 OTA. I've done it half a dozen times. Audit is right that you will trip the warranty but since this isn't an issue ...
The usual methods of rooting including CF Auto-Root don't always work and the method I've used with success each time is Option 2 in the thread below. The knox removal script disables knox ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991
Sounds good man, I'll hit that up when I get home, thank you!
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