Develop Bugs

Best Root Method?

So I just got my Note 2 yesterday and I cant stay away from rooting it, need it to remove few bloatwares and get rid of ads.
Whats the best method out?
-Flash via odin + triangle away?(which I feel is safest)
-Exploit apk
I read that the camera breaks after using the exploit apk so I am thinking of staying away from it.
Not planning for flashing CWM for now.
What do you'll say? Dont be harsh on me, it happens with everyone who gets a new phone

Odin.

Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit is the easiest way IMO.
Then use the exploit fix after as otherwise you have a massive security hole in your system. You can disable it to use the camera + there's no certainty your camera will actually stop working, depends on your ROM.

CitizenLee said:
Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit is the easiest way IMO.
Then use the exploit fix after as otherwise you have a massive security hole in your system. You can disable it to use the camera + there's no certainty your camera will actually stop working, depends on your ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok..that sounds a good one.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app

i'm rooted using cwm, and no problems until now

boyrobbie said:
i'm rooted using cwm, and no problems until now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Donno why but I feel I must stay away from cwm for now..maybe coz its new and I wanna go slow on my 5.5" baby.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app

by far the easiest and cleanest and safest is the ExynosAbuse option! the only thing it does is to inject su binary and install SuperSu which you ca easily remove later by simply choosing 'Full unroot' in its options. easy does it, no restarts, no nothing. in 10 seconds you're rooted and back unrooted. the camera may break if you try to fix the exploit with that application but rooting is safe and clean!
I used to have the auto-root installed with Odin and it did increase my custom flash counter, showed my status as Custom instead of Official and Device showed as Modified so no OTA or KIES updates for me. no, the above option with ExynosAbuse certainly doesn't do that

There are no benefits to OTA or Kies when official f/w always gets leaked and tweaked on here before Samsung roll it out
...and you should only be concerned about flash counter for warranty purposes, but then in the EU rooting doesn't affect your warranty anyway

. no, the above option with ExynosAbuse certainly doesn't do that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didnt get this
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app

Hmm, really? Rooting is not a warranty issue in EU? I didn't know that well, going further i found this: http://piana.eu/root maybe it explains well enough what's all the fuss about rooting. well, I bow to EU for that sort of law! I am goin g to share that, thanx a lot for opening my eyes!
About ExynosAbuse I meant it doesn't increment custom flash counter and doesn't set uztom statuses. It's very clean.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2

Root without Knox Trigger has been achieved....for AT&T

Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422

It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.

mightykc said:
Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
shin lucifer said:
It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe this is correct, rooting a device and flashing custom firmware is completely different.

I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app

GHOSTIVVI said:
I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont think so. Because we are starting with unlock BL to being with. So the system that is rooting the device take advantage of it, which automatically trips Knox. That's just me conjecturing.
Just wait abit, the phone just came out. I am sure some one will figure out what/how is knox working exactly. Also if you worried about warranty there are plenty of 3rd party warranties available.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?

dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am with you

dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thinkjoey said:
I am with you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the warranty getting void is the problem for some. Not having an option to go back so you can use the warranty is the problem. So if some thing go wrong people can't use Company warranty because they will know thanks to Knox B.S. And can refuse any help/repair.

I have heard that only Samsung checks the knox flag, so T-Mobile and asurion are just fine if it is otherwise stock
Sent from my NookColor using XDA Premium HD app

I use the phone for work. I need to have Knox in good status
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app

I hope you're right.
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app

My understanding is that the current rooting for our phone voids the Knox warranty because it installs a custom recovery. If there was a way to follow similar procedures as the Att variant we could have root with valid knox warranty. Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app

GHOSTIVVI said:
Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
and
the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
Sent from my SM-N900T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol

I'd love to get this for the T-mobile version - all I want to do is root only so I can change the DPI and use some xposed modules. If I can do this without triggering the Knox flag, that would be great.
I hope a dev out there is willing to look into this.

unlockingsky said:
Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.

GHOSTIVVI said:
Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone

unlockingsky said:
just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG

Candleclack said:
Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
There's actually a big discussion about this over in the S4 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832&page=46
I myself am luck that I never updated my bootloader or anything, Knox Counter doesn't show on my Bootloader. (I have the T-Mobile S4, by the way, not the Note 3.)

lawalty said:
I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
and
the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
Sent from my SM-N900T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think there is a way to root note3 without triggering the Knox just like the att note3. But once Knox is triggered there is no way to go back.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using XDA Premium App

How to: Root 4.3 & Install CWM SGH-T889

Keep in mind that if you follow this method, you are tripping the knox flag to a 0x1. This completed voids your warranty and until this moment there's no possible way to research back to a 0x0.
I used Oden to apply the Chainfire root. After rebooting, Knox told me it prevented an unauthorized app from accessing secure area of the phone. Then SuperSU FC'ed. I went to play, updated it SuperSU, and opened it. After a brief pause, it asked "Do you want to disable Knox?". I pondered that question intently, and in about 10ms, answered OF COURSE! It the successfully disabled knox.
After, go into the play store, and download "Rom Manager". Open it up, and click on the first tab. "Recovery Setup" (Even if it says that you already have CWM recovery installed, still do these steps) After clicking on that tab, on the list "Install or Update recovery" Click on ClockwordMod Recovery. Then click on our device name. A box will pop up suggesting you have Wi-Fi (If you're not already on it), just click OK. And then it'll automatically download it and flash it. There you go.
Sorry if this has already been posted. People might think that there is a different way to root 4.3, just here to help.
Took part of this from erkme73​

Thanks .. worked like a charm

Thanks a lot. This method worked for me and very quickly! Thanks!

Thnaks for testing this out. This method worked for me. I had the old CFautoroot before and it didn't work for me, so after downloading the CFautoroot that's specifically for t-mo version, this worked for me.
I didn't even have to go and download a custom recovery. I managed to have the stock recovery on.

Previous to 4.3 I flashed Robinson's stock root-injected 4.1.2 rom. Would this method work for me? And can I skip the CWM recovery part?

ungraph said:
Previous to 4.3 I flashed Robinson's stock root-injected 4.1.2 rom. Would this method work for me? And can I skip the CWM recovery part?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you use ODIN to flash the 4.3 stock, then you'll lose root, and then you'll have to do this method to get root back. You already have root. Wait until Mr. R puts out the root injected 4.3 so you won't lose your root.

nmw407 said:
If you use ODIN to flash the 4.3 stock, then you'll lose root, and then you'll have to do this method to get root back. You already have root. Wait until Mr. R puts out the root injected 4.3 so you won't lose your root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I flashed Robinson's stock root-injected 4.1.2 via Odin and I installed the 4.3 update via Kies yesterday so I lost root. I was wondering if this method would work for me.

It worked for me through ODIN. My mistake was using the old CFautoroot that was for the note 2 international. Once I used the one for t-mo, it all worked exactly as the OP stated - I stopped before the recovery installation since I didn't need TWRP or CWM

is it possible to be rooted and still use knox?

nmw407 said:
It worked for me through ODIN. My mistake was using the old CFautoroot that was for the note 2 international. Once I used the one for t-mo, it all worked exactly as the OP stated - I stopped before the recovery installation since I didn't need TWRP or CWM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just did exactly what you said and it works! I gained root on stock 4.3.

bones718 said:
is it possible to be rooted and still use knox?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From what I have seen with my phone NO... But hey still very early. The root method here is great. I found that I had to also uninstall Knox completly with TiBu and seems to hold. I found booting back into recovery even with Knox on Freeze it still would interfere ... Just my limited experience speaking here also.
Thanks again for the root method. Seems 4.3 is pretty smooth, I installed exposed and Wanam and all is good, Also flashed Devil Kernel and good good so far.:victory:

youStolemylaptop said:
There you go.
Sorry if this has already been posted. People might think that there is a different way to root 4.3, just here to help.
Took part of this from erkme73​
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Worked like a charm. Thanks for posting the steps!

This method works but i did a master reset to start "fresh" after rooting and i got on the Tmobile 4g lte screen loop.
Any ideas?
lmarranzino said:
From what I have seen with my phone NO... But hey still very early. The root method here is great. I found that I had to also uninstall Knox completly with TiBu and seems to hold. I found booting back into recovery even with Knox on Freeze it still would interfere ... Just my limited experience speaking here also.
Thanks again for the root method. Seems 4.3 is pretty smooth, I installed exposed and Wanam and all is good, Also flashed Devil Kernel and good good so far.:victory:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you meant by interfere?

DKM119 said:
This method works but i did a master reset to start "fresh" after rooting and i got on the Tmobile 4g lte screen loop.
Any ideas?
What do you meant by interfere?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine hung on that screen for longer than I wanted (started getting nervous) but eventually the phone finished loading up
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

Keep in mind that if you follow this method, you are tripping the knox flag to a 0x1. This completed voids your warranty and until this moment there's no possible way to revert back to a 0x0. This means you can't downgrade your firmware and if you try, even via Odin, it wouldn't let you and lock your phone. Just a heads up. OP shouldve posted this in the post but if you don't mind flashing custom rooms etc, then by all means go ahead.

ungraph said:
Keep in mind that if you follow this method, you are tripping the knox flag to a 0x1. This completed voids your warranty and until this moment there's no possible way to research back to a 0x0. This means you can't downgrade your firmware and if you try, even via Odin, it wouldn't let you and lock your phone. Just a heads up. OP shouldve posted this in the post but if you don't mind flashing custom rooms etc, then by all means go ahead.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll edit it in right now to let everyone know.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app

it's work on my NOTE2
Thanks

I thank the OP for updating the post to reflect the Knox issue... but I think anyone with a Note 2 should have already been aware of such issues when rooting. Even if they weren't around for the "modified/binary count/triangle away" disscussions... those that did root, still had to deal with those issue and heard all about them... and now that we've headed towards that next phase of OTA's... it's hard to think anyone has not seen/heard/read something on Knox itself... I can hardly go 5 topics without seeing something related to Knox posted within the first 2 pages... I commend the OP for updating... but how can people be so careless with a phone that cost $400-700. Especially when the first rule of xda is "read first" followed by rule two "at your own risk"
Ultimately, I tripped out about the whole "modified status won't allow OTA's / void warranty" at first and in the end it was patched... I hope for everyone's sake, this gets the same solution... like Coug, I'm holding out for the moment, but I do have faith
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

PhxDroid86 said:
I thank the OP for updating the post to reflect the Knox issue... but I think anyone with a Note 2 should have already been aware of such issues when rooting. Even if they weren't around for the "modified/binary count/triangle away" disscussions... those that did root, still had to deal with those issue and heard all about them... and now that we've headed towards that next phase of OTA's... it's hard to think anyone has not seen/heard/read something on Knox itself... I can hardly go 5 topics without seeing something related to Knox posted within the first 2 pages... I commend the OP for updating... but how can people be so careless with a phone that cost $400-700. Especially when the first rule of xda is "read first" followed by rule two "at your own risk"
Ultimately, I tripped out about the whole "modified status won't allow OTA's / void warranty" at first and in the end it was patched... I hope for everyone's sake, this gets the same solution... like Coug, I'm holding out for the moment, but I do have faith
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In a perfect world this is completely true, but this isn't a prefect world. Most the post I see about Knox is "what is Knox" instead of people searching. That's why we have so many people already bootlooping trying to go back to 4.1. I'm glad the op updated the Knox warranty but because I'm pretty sure there will be some people shocked by theirs being tripped.
On a side not Vroot and kingo will root without messing up the Knox. Just Google them. They were removed from xda because some suspicion of virus, but I didn't have s problem
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

So if you flash Mr. Robinson's stock root injected update you lose root. He has ripped out knox so if you use this method, you shouldn't have any issues and regain root?

Friend borrowed phone Updated 4.3 knox blocks su

How do I reboot or get a 4.3 version knox free or bypass knox moderator edit superuser lol.. friend borrowed phone uprooted and updated to 4.3 ota.
Now knox kicks super user and force closes .
I read there's a way I think to re root I think maybe by Mr Robison root 66.
All I wanna so is either be on a 4.1.2 rooted Rom or 4.3 that doesn't affect superuser What's the method ?
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

Well KNOX is on your phone now and there is no way (yet) to get rid of it. Try updating su in the play store. The new version can get around it.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

Buy root Explorer from the market then go to System then apps look for knox and remove it I think there are like 3 knox files then reboot and then your knox free
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

0.o said:
Well KNOX is on your phone now and there is no way (yet) to get rid of it. Try updating su in the play store. The new version can get around it.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good thought but I don't think it's that simple.. It's well noted that there isn't a way to safely bypass or remove it yet If your method Was the case it would be all over the forum and probably one of the first things tried the day 4.3 ota was pushed .
Its built in the bootloader . I'm not sure what damage would cause if i try removing with a root explorer app.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

carlgraser said:
Buy root Explorer from the market then go to System then apps look for knox and remove it I think there are like 3 knox files then reboot and then your knox free
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That only removes the apps the bootloader is still there.
Smack that thanks button if I helped!
Note 2 LTE powered by Illusion ROM and Plasma Kernel.
Sent from dat small country called Singapore.
P.S. replies with quotes will be replied to faster.

i trriped my know and i dont know how to undone this.

Mynameisbruce said:
i trriped my know and i dont know how to undone this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
U can't undo this.
Smack that thanks button if I helped!
Note 2 LTE powered by Illusion ROM and Plasma Kernel.
Sent from dat small country called Singapore.
P.S. replies with quotes will be replied to faster.

Irwenzhao said:
U can't undo this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Buzzingga!

Possible Solutions to your Note 2 OP Sys 4.3 Rom dilema
lojak29 said:
How do I reboot or get a 4.3 version knox free or bypass knox moderator edit superuser lol.. friend borrowed phone uprooted and updated to 4.3 ota.
Now knox kicks super user and force closes .
I read there's a way I think to re root I think maybe by Mr Robison root 66.
All I wanna so is either be on a 4.1.2 rooted Rom or 4.3 that doesn't affect superuser What's the method ?
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good morning,
I am no WIZ but it seems to me that all you would need to do is revert (flash) your NOTE 2 back to a stock, Predated to 4.1.1 OEM T-Mobile Rom.
However, since XDA is a creative lot, there is really no reason for me to presume that you still use T-Mobile as your carrier; not that it makes much difference at this point, So rather than being the horses ass as I sit here making my first post and since I am too new to be allowed to make life easy on you by merely laying down the link, go to Galaxynote2toroot under the heading of stock firmware. I think you will find your answers there. The site lists most all of the original or at least those firmwares you might use including those after 4.1 and prior to v 4.30. They have flashing tools as well...probably light-fingered from here (smiling) but in any case it seemed to be a simple method to get you where you want to go.
Sidebar: Personally, I am going to contribute to the cause supporting the old turned new GalaxyNOTE2 Toolkit v4.1.0. conjured up by mskip http://forum.xda-developers.com.php?=1957720 because I think it is and will continue to be a pretty swish tool to prevent me making the typical, wreck your Note2 rookie mistakes. And I secretly plan over time to make him a friend so he'll help me when I falter. It is a wonderment to me how complicated but pro tool accepting the little bastards be.
So, depending on your expertise in these matters, you might take a look as well, In any case I hope you get it fixed.
Best regards,
dm

Another 4.3 bootloader question...sorry

I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using a failing xda app-developers app

Djspinister said:
I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using a failing xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that's correct. If you go stock 4.3, via the OTA update, you will lose root initially. You can, however, always re-root. The most effective method to root after 4.3 is to Odin TWRP, boot to recovery and then flash SuperSu and the knox remover tool via recovery. Install SuperSU from the play store and run it to update the binary when prompted.

Won't let me thank you on the mobile app, so I'll do it when I get home from work, thank you! Wonder what happened to the premium version I paid for. Took my money and ran lol
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.

audit13 said:
Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.

Djspinister said:
So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is no question about it. You can root even after 4.3 OTA. I've done it half a dozen times. Audit is right that you will trip the warranty but since this isn't an issue ...
The usual methods of rooting including CF Auto-Root don't always work and the method I've used with success each time is Option 2 in the thread below. The knox removal script disables knox ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991

Sounds good man, I'll hit that up when I get home, thank you!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app