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Hello guys
Im new to Samsung, bought my phone a month ago and love it to be honest. The problem is dont know most of things on android and samsung. been looking at the forum hours and hours and learnt most of it from you.
I want to know if rooting is any good? why would you root your device or why wouldnt you? advantages and disadvantages?
Is it easy to do it? (as Im new dont wanna brick my phone) I have seen that if you root your phone your warranty will be avoid. If you unroot will it be still avoided?
Hope my questions are clear.
Hi and welxome to xda. Rooting basically gives you full rights over your phone and breaks most barriers put in place. Hands down the best thing about rooting your phone is that it gives you the ability to install a custom rom which improves on the current rom (the systen you are interacting with)
It is really easy to root a note2, i suggest you read the stickys-they have a guide for it.
Lastly the only downside is that you can brick ur phone if anything is DONE without reading the instructions. Or flashing something that is not in a N7100 forum.
And it voids warantee, but there is a workaround (traingleaway, search it )
Hope i answered your question
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hamzahqaisar1995 said:
Hi and welxome to xda. Rooting basically gives you full rights over your phone and breaks most barriers put in place. Hands down the best thing about rooting your phone is that it gives you the ability to install a custom rom which improves on the current rom (the systen you are interacting with)
It is really easy to root a note2, i suggest you read the stickys-they have a guide for it.
Lastly the only downside is that you can brick ur phone if anything is DONE without reading the instructions. Or flashing something that is not in a N7100 forum.
And it voids warantee, but there is a workaround (traingleaway, search it )
Hope i answered your question
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Thanks for you response mate. Whats the quickest and easiest and safest root ? Like iphone jailbreaks are so easy all you need to do is plug your phone in and press the jailbreak button and after 2 3 minutes all done. Is there any program or software like that?
I suggest you before rooting do a bit of research on why you need to root rather than root it "because you can" as you read rooting has it drawbacks specially for noobs.
If you can live without some specific feature only available through rooting, don't root avoid a headache.
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PiskopatYazar said:
Thanks for you response mate. Whats the quickest and easiest and safest root ? Like iphone jailbreaks are so easy all you need to do is plug your phone in and press the jailbreak button and after 2 3 minutes all done. Is there any program or software like that?
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CF auto root
it will take 10 sec
True, bought Note II yesterday and rooted today in like 2 minutes!
yahyoh said:
CF auto root
it will take 10 sec
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thanks
dalanik said:
True, bought Note II yesterday and rooted today in like 2 minutes!
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what files do I need? where did you download them?
Where can you find instructions to unroot a note 2 which has been rooted using CF-auto-root.
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HypoDest said:
Where can you find instructions to unroot a note 2 which has been rooted using CF-auto-root.
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why do you want to unroot?
PiskopatYazar said:
why do you want to unroot?
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Haven't rooted yet. Found many instructions for the easy cf-auto-root but not much on unrooting, which may be needed for OTA updates or warranty checks.
Anyways you may wanna look into rooting after finding some uses for it. Otherwise it may be an unnecessary risk. There is a lot of customisation and functionality available using the stock rom and market apps alone.
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you can unroot (rooted with cf autoroot) by supeSU (you will get it by rooting)setting menu
OR
by simply flashing stock ROM with odin will unroot device
(In both case you should have to reset counter while you are having root, to claim warranty)
Read post#2 &3 of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696
dr.ketan said:
you can unroot (rooted with cf autoroot) by supeSU (you will get it by rooting)setting menu
OR
by simply flashing stock ROM with odin will unroot device
(In both case you should have to reset counter while you are having root, to claim warranty)
Read post#2 &3 of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696
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Does unrooting using superSU require restoring factory settings or anything? Or does it do it cleanly?
I want to be able to update through OTA.
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factory reset won't need, cosmetically you won't see any rooting sign.
But regarding OTA, really its weired
you never can say surely, i have seen who have unrooted + factory reset, even they fails to install update (though even getting update)
so be prepare to flash using odin, if you don't get OTA.
You need to factory flash via Odin and then use triangle away to reset the flash counter that should allow you to update OTA.
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hi
i have been reading a lot about exynos chip problems etc and came to realize exynos abuse app which many recommend from chainfire is the easiest way to root and unroot phone. not only that it gapes the holes for nasty viruses to intrude the exynos chip. but one thing i am not sure what chain fire says in his discription about exynos app is---
Also note that if use the patch method without rooting, or keep patching the exploit at boot enabled when unrooting, you need an alternate method to re-root the device to disable this feature (like CF-Auto-Root) - you cannot use ExynosAbuse to do this since it patched the exploit. Unlike other patch authors, I do not believe in keeping an invisible rooted process running in the background while pretending you aren't rooted, to be able to unpatch this way
Also i saw pics of exynos app photos on 1 of the forums, in one of the photos it says under Unroot device option- keep the patch which disables the exploit at boot in place. note that this will prevent from using exynos abuse app again..
I do understand there is some sort of exploit which we are patching using this app apart from rooting the phone just to stop those nasty viruses. and if we unroot the phone the patch will stay in place at every boot on the exploit so if we have to root again we have to use other method like cf auto root etc..
can anyone kindly shed some light on what exploit is and what is the limitation and advantage of exynos abuse app.
thanks..
Further explanation, clarification.. and a small question and open discussion.
Hi,
Since no one replied to my question i did more reading and youtube videos etc and gained a bit of knowledge from dr.ketan too and thought to share my knowledge and PLS DO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. And feel free to add more comments.
There is sudden death syndrome in s3, note 2. All exynos samsung processors on 4.1.1 are affected. The phone suddenly dies without any reason. Not only that there is serious security hole where any app can gain user information. These both fixes are supposedly fixed in 4.1.2.
But chainfire came out with a great apk app which you can install as a normal app on phone which roots, unroots phone in one click and not only that it plugs the hole which was letting malicious apps in. But exynoseabuse doesnt take care of SDS (sudden death syndrome) and it only works on 4.1.1 and doesnt work on firmwares LL7 after jan 2013
There is option of pluging the hole without rooting the phone but if you patch exploit (plug the hole) without rooting you cannot use this particular app to root your phone - you have to use other methods of rooting like cf auto root etc
On the other hand, If you decide to root your phone you can disable exploit (plug the hole) just by one click or you have the option of disabling the exploit every time you reboot the phone. so the app will patch the hole before any other normal android app runs.
Then if you decide to ever unroot the phone or send it away for warranty just click unroot device..
This is here where i am bit confused IF we unroot the phone the patch remains there.? is there a way to remove the patch as well while unrooting so that there are no traces of patching or rooting etc and can use this app patch again.?
Also if we dont flash cwm, we can flash custom firmwares using mobile odin right and if we are sending it for warranty just flash a stock firmware in odin and it will be all good.? NO triangle or flash counter reset etc..?
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This is here where i am bit confused IF we unroot the phone the patch remains there.? is there a way to remove the patch as well while unrooting so that there are no traces of patching or rooting etc and can use this app patch again.?
Also if we dont flash cwm, we can flash custom firmwares using mobile odin right and if we are sending it for warranty just flash a stock firmware in odin and it will be all good.? NO triangle or flash counter reset etc..?
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There is option to disable exploit in application, selecting that you closing security hole. is that clear?
Now if you unroot your device with selecting that option, still patch will remain there
If you don't select(uncheck) that option and then you unroot, patch won't be there
if you flash any stock ROM, that will erase all the patches you applied manually with exynose app including root.
O God Dr. Ketan you are full of knowledge and a kind man and you help all the time. Highly appreciated again.
Yes I do understand the concept fully now.
So if we uncheck both disable exploit options and unroot it removes patch as well unroots right. So that means we can root again using same app.?
On the other hand if we don't uncheck those disable exploit and unroot the patch stays there and we can't use exynosabuse app again to root. .. right. ?
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exactly
b'coz you needs root to patch/unpatch
BTW i advised you to post queries in Q/A section not on development.
It basically started as my partially acquired knowledge sharing and open discussion thread but it turned to question and answer thread due to small confusion I had. I will change it to q and a thread tomorrow.
So with this root option we can still Flash any custom roms easily using mobile or pc odin but we won't have feature rich root to use things like nandroid backuo and restore because we don't have cwm. And if we have to send for warranty just flash stock rom and its all official and we don't even have to run triangle away etc as flashing stock ROM will take care of everything. ?
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Morning doc. i wanted to delete this thread as you pointed out it is in development section. just realized it cant be deleted as we need to contact mod to delete it secondly i checked and it is in ques and ans section anyway so its all good. i have used exynos abuse app and rooted, unrooted twice and i will share a bit about it today some time. will jot down things in a newbie clear way so that in future if some one needs help they can read post and be clear about it.
Thanks for being actively involved and helpful all the time.
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dr.ketan said:
exactly
b'coz you needs root to patch/unpatch
BTW i advised you to post queries in Q/A section not on development.
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Seems you figured it out, but note that the Sds and enyxos security hole is two different things. Also, both of these are patched in any actively maintained kernel or rom on xda by now.
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Yes thanks to dr.ketan and others I understand the concept now. Have lefy this thread for further open discussion now. One thing I am still not clear about is cos I dont have cwm as I rooted with exynosabuse app so dows that mean I cant flash custom roms like omega rom etc using mobile odin. ?
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You can use mobile Odin without cwm, no worries.
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Thanks for reply. if mobile odin, exynoseabuse is easiet method to flash custom rom and root/unroot, then why people go for CWM.? Where does the importance of CWM comes in play.? What does it do or give.?
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adytum said:
You can use mobile Odin without cwm, no worries.
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exynose abuse won't work on latest ROM.
CWM have option to Nandroid backup
some CWM having touch GUI as well option to backup/restore EFS,kernel,recovery and more
you can read this thraed OP for more detail function of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028103
Mobile odin is just flasher, you can flash any file in .bin/img/tar/flashable zip as well while flashing it can inject superSU to keep root intact.
you can't compare both, as both having its own function as well limitation.
you are saying to flash zip file is just common feature available in both, though once can't replace others because of other features.
Hmmm,
Exynos abuse works on my 4.1.1 though. clearly it wont work on 4.1.2 stock roms though.
So if i rooted my phone with exynos abuse which is on 4.1.1 and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin.? if i can, then for some reason need to go back to stock for recovery i can easily and use triangle away if needed to..?
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dr.ketan said:
exynose abuse won't work on latest ROM.
CWM have option to Nandroid backup
some CWM having touch GUI as well option to backup/restore EFS,kernel,recovery and more
you can read this thraed OP for more detail function of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028103
Mobile odin is just flasher, you can flash any file in .bin/img/tar/flashable zip as well while flashing it can inject superSU to keep root intact.
you can't compare both, as both having its own function as well limitation.
you are saying to flash zip file is just common feature available in both, though once can't replace others because of other features.
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Jay_Nz said:
1.So if i rooted my phone with exynos abuse which is on 4.1.1 and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin.?
2. if i can, then for some reason need to go back to stock for recovery i can easily and use triangle away if needed to..?
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1.yes
2.you can flash stock rom with odin (pc /mobile) and can use triangle away (needs root)
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So for me to use omega rom I must have cwm. Means I can't install omega or any other custom rom using mobile odin on my exynosabuse rooted app phone.?
Its just you said I can't use mobile odin and other user urkashgupta said I can install custom roms just use mobile odin without having cwm.
2 people 2 different opinions so it's confusing
dr.ketan said:
1.yes
2.you can flash stock rom with odin (pc /mobile) and can use triangle away (needs root)
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Where I said you can't use mobile odin to flash custom rom?
Just read above post, i can read YES in first reply
Of course you can
You asked
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So if i rooted my phone with exynos abuse which is on 4.1.1 and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin.?
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I replied with YES
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hi ketan,
i think slight misunderstanding in my question. my question said :"and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin?- to that you said yes.
so i thought you said yes i cant .. but its all good so you say i can use mobile odin to flash omega or other custom roms even though i dont have cwm.
its all good. i will try it and see how it goes.
thanks again.
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dr.ketan said:
Where I said you can't use mobile odin to flash custom rom?
Just read above post, i can read YES in first reply
Of course you can
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Ok got it
Apologies.
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kindly dont apologize.. you are too good to be apologetic. small mistakes like this happen. you have helped me many times. its all good..
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Ok got it
Apologies.
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Anyway just like to add one suggestion.
If you want to flash custom rom, I recommend to use cwm
See what is reason to not to use cwm, I can see is you won't reset counter isn't?
But I think most of custom rom itself have custom recovery/kernel and rom itself raise counter, B'coz once you flash custom rom your recovery will be replaced by recovery that included in rom. So ultimately no meaning to use mobile odin to keep recovery stock.
Another reason it's my personal experience, flashing zip with CWM is more solid and hardly I have seen case where it fails to do so.
I do recommend to use mobile odin to flash zip files only when you need to flash some mod, which just used to replace some applications or framework of stock rom. But still you want to stay on stock rom.
So in summary :
Mobile odin is best
to flash stock rom without pc,
To keep root while flashing stock rom
To flash mods
To flash individual component like only recovery, kernel, modem
CWM is best to flash
Custom roms
Nandroid backup
Aroma file manager or
Some inbuilt features of cwm
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Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.
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Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
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shin lucifer said:
It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.
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I believe this is correct, rooting a device and flashing custom firmware is completely different.
I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
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GHOSTIVVI said:
I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
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I dont think so. Because we are starting with unlock BL to being with. So the system that is rooting the device take advantage of it, which automatically trips Knox. That's just me conjecturing.
Just wait abit, the phone just came out. I am sure some one will figure out what/how is knox working exactly. Also if you worried about warranty there are plenty of 3rd party warranties available.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
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I am with you
dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
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thinkjoey said:
I am with you
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I think the warranty getting void is the problem for some. Not having an option to go back so you can use the warranty is the problem. So if some thing go wrong people can't use Company warranty because they will know thanks to Knox B.S. And can refuse any help/repair.
I have heard that only Samsung checks the knox flag, so T-Mobile and asurion are just fine if it is otherwise stock
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I use the phone for work. I need to have Knox in good status
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I hope you're right.
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My understanding is that the current rooting for our phone voids the Knox warranty because it installs a custom recovery. If there was a way to follow similar procedures as the Att variant we could have root with valid knox warranty. Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
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GHOSTIVVI said:
Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
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I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
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the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
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Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol
I'd love to get this for the T-mobile version - all I want to do is root only so I can change the DPI and use some xposed modules. If I can do this without triggering the Knox flag, that would be great.
I hope a dev out there is willing to look into this.
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Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol
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Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.
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Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.
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just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone
unlockingsky said:
just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone
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Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
Candleclack said:
Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
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Yeah, it's unfortunate.
There's actually a big discussion about this over in the S4 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832&page=46
I myself am luck that I never updated my bootloader or anything, Knox Counter doesn't show on my Bootloader. (I have the T-Mobile S4, by the way, not the Note 3.)
lawalty said:
I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
and
the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
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I think there is a way to root note3 without triggering the Knox just like the att note3. But once Knox is triggered there is no way to go back.
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Is there a root for the stock 4.3 CMK7 ? Will the current methods work on new firmware?
I'm looking for the same thing I hope we can get that answer soon
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kingnarkissos said:
Is there a root for the stock 4.3 CMK7 ? Will the current methods work on new firmware?
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Haven't tried it yet but here a link which has step by step instructions on how to root SGH-T889 running android 4.3.
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/12/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-t-mobile-sgh.html
Please Note: This method will most likely trip the KNOX/Warranty Bit counter so try it on your own risk.
Rooting is not the same on 4.3.
ciphercodes said:
Haven't tried it yet but here a link which has step by step instructions on how to root SGH-T889 running android 4.3.
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/12/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-t-mobile-sgh.html
Please Note: This method will most likely trip the KNOX/Warranty Bit counter so try it on your own risk.
Rooting is not the same on 4.3.
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Yeah, I just ran chainfires method and something odd happened. I have superuser but I can't actually use it. That KNOX BS prevents it from running and issues a security warning that reads "Unauthorized access to a secure area has been blocked tap to learn more" .
kingnarkissos said:
Yeah, I just ran chainfires method and something odd happened. I have superuser but I can't actually use it. That KNOX BS prevents it from running and issues a security warning that reads "Unauthorized access to a secure area has been blocked tap to learn more" .
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You can disable KNOX... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482306
kozmo21 said:
You can disable KNOX... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482306
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This only disables the notifications from KNOX and not the KNOX itself.
I think notifications can be disabled within KNOX settings.
kingnarkissos, can you go in download mode and let us know what the Warranty Bit shows ?
Here's how to root or at least should work. Another user posted link in Mr R root that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47694353
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ciphercodes said:
This only disables the notifications from KNOX and not the KNOX itself.
I think notifications can be disabled within KNOX settings.
kingnarkissos, can you go in download mode and let us know what the Warranty Bit shows ?
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In download mode it showed KNOX was tripped. 'Knox warranty void: 1" I ended up bricking it, which is all the same, I don't like KNOX bs anyway. I spun a good yarn to T-Mobile so I'll have another Note 2 tomorrow hopefully on something below 4.3 lol.
kingnarkissos said:
In download mode it showed KNOX was tripped. I ended up bricking it, which is all the same, I don't like KNOX bs anyway. I spun a good yarn to T-Mobile so I'll have another Note 2 tomorrow hopefully on something below 4.3 lol.
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Sorry to hear that, can you elaborate how it got bricked ?
Did you try to downgrade ? Flashing it back to 4.3 worked for S3 phones.
I mean once you are on 4.3 you cannot flash back to an older version (4.1.x) easily. There must be a way via CWM or TWRP.
Some of us can use this information to NOT brick our phones.
kintwofan said:
Here's how to root or at least should work. Another user posted link in Mr R root that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47694353
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Just a quick update on this. I used the vroot method. I am now rooted with xposed and titanium backup confirmed (I factory reset after ota. .... Much smoother! !) Oh and Knox is still at 0!! Hooray for new
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ciphercodes said:
Sorry to hear that, can you elaborate how it got bricked ?
Did you try to downgrade ? Flashing it back to 4.3 worked for S3 phones.
I mean once you are on 4.3 you cannot flash back to an older version (4.1.x) easily. There must be a way via CWM or TWRP.
Some of us can use this information to NOT brick our phones.
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So...I decided to take a chance and try to some things on my own, you know, show some initiative. I wont be doing that again and have gained even more respect for what you devs do. Here's the story. I tried to root the 4.3 using chainfires method, after being warned by psycho4us4 that it prolly wouldn't work. It did work, sort of... I had superuser and with root explorer was able to access system files. However, I could not alter or change any of the files. When I attempted to, the explorer would stop responding. It's also important to note I was never asked to grant SU permissions. That dialogue was replaced with the notification bar warning (apparently issued by KNOX) that an app was trying to access a restricted area of the device (lol) which I ignored. So now I have my Note II with SU and KNOX tripped showing warranty void 1 in the download mode So I'm thinking "Ok I'll flash back to MD1 with ODIN" Into download mode I go and start up ol ODIN I load the firmware and let it run. After going through the entire process it fails at the end. Now I have the Keis firmware failed screen....a brick.
kingnarkissos said:
So...I decided to take a chance and try to some things on my own, you know, show some initiative. I wont be doing that again and have gained even more respect for what you devs do. Here's the story. I tried to root the 4.3 using chainfires method, after being warned by psycho4us4 that it prolly wouldn't work. It did work, sort of... I had superuser and with root explorer was able to access system files. However, I could not alter or change any of the files. When I attempted to, the explorer would stop responding. It's also important to note I was never asked to grant SU permissions. That dialogue was replaced with the notification bar warning (apparently issued by KNOX) that an app was trying to access a restricted area of the device (lol) which I ignored. So now I have my Note II with SU and KNOX tripped showing warranty void 1 in the download mode So I'm thinking "Ok I'll flash back to MD1 with ODIN" Into download mode I go and start up ol ODIN I load the firmware and let it run. After going through the entire process it fails at the end. Now I have the Keis firmware failed screen....a brick.
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Not really bricked. Odin the 4.3 ota again and you'll be right back up and running
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In download mode it showed KNOX was tripped. 'Knox warranty void: 1" I ended up bricking it, which is all the same, I don't like KNOX bs anyway. I spun a good yarn to T-Mobile so I'll have another Note 2 tomorrow hopefully on something below 4.3 lol.
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Just curious how you say to have gotten one by tomorrow ive been with tmobile/voicestream for 13 years and have yet to see a phone overnighted, also to fix your problem just odin it again with new 4.3 phone will work
kintwofan said:
Just a quick update on this. I used the vroot method. I am now rooted with xposed and titanium backup confirmed (I factory reset after ota. .... Much smoother! !) Oh and Knox is still at 0!! Hooray for new
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I'm having trouble deciding which route I want to go. Don't know if I want to use the link with the Warranty Safe Root way(have already cooked the rom per it's directions) or if I want to go the cf-auto root way. I don't know anything about the vroot method. Any thoughts or insight would be appreciated.
I thought I'd be clever too and do a factory reset from the phone and it hung on the tmo boot screen, but I ended up downloading the stock 4.3 tar file and ODIN back to 4.3 and it works again.
The Chainfire root way is definitely not the way to go as it does not work.
Going to try the vroot way to see if I can get root back.
With vroot download supersu before starting them make sure as soon as the phone boots up after rooting open supersu update binary and let it delete the other manager.
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where is the link for vroot?
solidmac said:
where is the link for vroot?
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There isn't one. All links were removed from xda because some suspicion of the program as a virus. If you followed the link I posted you would see that. Now there are tons of positive reports and I used it. My antivirus didn't report it either. However, if you feel comfortable using it you will need to Google it
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Honestly is probably best for most users to hold tight until mattlowry gets the knox free and rooted version released
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There isn't one. All links were removed from xda because some suspicion of the program as a virus. If you followed the link I posted you would see that. Now there are tons of positive reports and I used it. My antivirus didn't report it either. However, if you feel comfortable using it you will need to Google it
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Honestly is probably best for most users to hold tight until mattlowry gets the knox free and rooted version released
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I dont have a custom recovery installed, so i need to do this. I see lots of different versions of vroot, is the latest version?
EDIT:nvm its been awhile since ive been in the rooting scene. Im coming from an N1. XD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562994
I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
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I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
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Yeah, that's correct. If you go stock 4.3, via the OTA update, you will lose root initially. You can, however, always re-root. The most effective method to root after 4.3 is to Odin TWRP, boot to recovery and then flash SuperSu and the knox remover tool via recovery. Install SuperSU from the play store and run it to update the binary when prompted.
Won't let me thank you on the mobile app, so I'll do it when I get home from work, thank you! Wonder what happened to the premium version I paid for. Took my money and ran lol
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Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.
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Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.
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So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.
Djspinister said:
So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.
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There is no question about it. You can root even after 4.3 OTA. I've done it half a dozen times. Audit is right that you will trip the warranty but since this isn't an issue ...
The usual methods of rooting including CF Auto-Root don't always work and the method I've used with success each time is Option 2 in the thread below. The knox removal script disables knox ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991
Sounds good man, I'll hit that up when I get home, thank you!
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