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Has anyone in their travels come across an unlocked D851 for sale? I want to buy this phone as it comes with Band IV LTE for TMob in the USA. I cant seem to find it, not like too many models are available this week regardless. However with the pre order TMob page up, I was wondering if the unlocked/unbranded version had made it to order pages.
will the D855 work on tmob. i saw a screen that listed all the LTE bands through a service menu, does that mean I could order it and turn the radio on?
Thanks
You'd have to buy an unlock code most likely. And I don't think there is going to be an unbranded one sold.
So just buy it from TMO, unlock it, buy a backplate then flash the **** out of it and keep it moving?
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So just buy it from TMO, unlock it, buy a backplate then flash the **** out of it and keep it moving?
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Yeah, bedsides the flashing part as of now the boot loader is locked.
Damn, I couldnt get the stock international rom, Im really trying to avoid any carrier involvement? Do you know anything about the LTE being able to be switched on.. The D855 is being sold 'sim free' (as they say in the EU) seems like the only option as of now.. if its possible of course.
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Damn, I couldnt get the stock international rom, Im really trying to avoid any carrier involvement? Do you know anything about the LTE being able to be switched on.. The D855 is being sold 'sim free' (as they say in the EU) seems like the only option as of now.. if its possible of course.
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You can use a custom ROM in the development section. Just no custom kernel and such
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shadym1lkman said:
Damn, I couldnt get the stock international rom, Im really trying to avoid any carrier involvement? Do you know anything about the LTE being able to be switched on.. The D855 is being sold 'sim free' (as they say in the EU) seems like the only option as of now.. if its possible of course.
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D855 won't work for att LTE
Itd be Band IV (1700MHz) for TMOBILE
I dont know if you can turn frequencies on for instance from a service menu such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53156924&postcount=49
I dont think it has that. It has 2100 but not 1700 AFAIK. And if the phone doesn't have the frequencies you can't just turn them on. Its a hardware thing.
Yea, Ive been out of the game for a few years. So I was/am unsure about whether or not the SoC has all the HW radios necessary but the software dictates the frequencies to Rx/Tx from/to.. leaving the supply chain simpler for the manufacturer.
Thanks for all your help Lost, i appreciate it! Probably just order the TMO D851 to ensure HW compatibility and then deal with the software as necessary.. The kernel being locked makes me wonder if non-carrier models be easier to crack.
Yeah a lot of people are saying the SoC supports many bands but the fact is that they have to have approval from the FCC to have those bands be unable at all on the phones.
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shadym1lkman said:
Yea, Ive been out of the game for a few years. So I was/am unsure about whether or not the SoC has all the HW radios necessary but the software dictates the frequencies to Rx/Tx from/to.. leaving the supply chain simpler for the manufacturer.
Thanks for all your help Lost, i appreciate it! Probably just order the TMO D851 to ensure HW compatibility and then deal with the software as necessary.. The kernel being locked makes me wonder if non-carrier models be easier to crack.
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I hope so as I have a Korean one lol I want it to be unlocked soon.
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-zenfone-2-usa-model-specifications-revealed-30381599/
for those still waiting, here is the news.
Its good that they are finally going to do a US release but I don't understand the mentality of only releasing the 2GB RAM version initially to "compete" with this years flagship phones like the M9 and S6. I bought mine from a website that sent it from China and 4GB RAM and it works great, I would love to see a US release mainly for the US based firmware so that it works better on the networks because its just not doing great on signal right now.
WTF. Why would you NOT sell the 4gb when that's like, the selling point of the phone for some people?
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WTF. Why would you NOT sell the 4gb when that's like, the selling point of the phone for some people?
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4gb is one huge selling point, but not have to purchase through a carrier is another. Will this also be available unlocked from Amazon or other?
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Its good that they are finally going to do a US release but I don't understand the mentality of only releasing the 2GB RAM version initially to "compete" with this years flagship phones like the M9 and S6. I bought mine from a website that sent it from China and 4GB RAM and it works great, I would love to see a US release mainly for the US based firmware so that it works better on the networks because its just not doing great on signal right now.
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great minds think alike, i'm just hoping if we could flash the us based firmware to get better signal
Man, I hope they won't put a carrier plan on it for
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um....sounds pretty bad....
is the taiwanese version works better than the china version in USA and Canada?
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great minds think alike, i'm just hoping if we could flash the us based firmware to get better signal
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I agree. Thats the only thing I want to see out of this release now is better signal. I am not getting LTE for T-Mobile just H+ but it doesn't bother me to much. Everything I am able to do with this phone I am more than happy with. And an update to a 64 bit OS would be nice. Everything ASUS is putting out for this phone is still on 32 bit OS. Which is nonsense when you're spouting everything about 64 bit chips.
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tabemasu88 said:
um....sounds pretty bad....
is the taiwanese version works better than the china version in USA and Canada?
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Neither one work good for US and CA. You can still call and text but browsing just isnt going to go over smoothly. When I first got it in, it had China's firmware which was difficult to navigate through and didn't have Gapps or any native google support. What I did, and pretty much everyone else that has bought it from overseas what flash the firmware to the European version which is WW. Switching the firmware in and of itself was a pain because the bootloader is still locked. China is CN, Taiwan is TW, and another they just released is JP which I assume is Japan. The European version still doesn't get LTE Signal but runs a lot more smoothly than CN, or TW and gets better signals. If you got it, just flash to a WW firmware and the phone will work awesome.
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I agree. Thats the only thing I want to see out of this release now is better signal. I am not getting LTE for T-Mobile just H+ but it doesn't bother me to much. Everything I am able to do with this phone I am more than happy with. And an update to a 64 bit OS would be nice. Everything ASUS is putting out for this phone is still on 32 bit OS. Which is nonsense when you're spouting everything about 64 bit chips.
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Neither one work good for US and CA. You can still call and text but browsing just isnt going to go over smoothly. When I first got it in, it had China's firmware which was difficult to navigate through and didn't have Gapps or any native google support. What I did, and pretty much everyone else that has bought it from overseas what flash the firmware to the European version which is WW. Switching the firmware in and of itself was a pain because the bootloader is still locked. China is CN, Taiwan is TW, and another they just released is JP which I assume is Japan. The European version still doesn't get LTE Signal but runs a lot more smoothly than CN, or TW and gets better signals. If you got it, just flash to a WW firmware and the phone will work awesome.
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What makes you say its 32bit? Surely as its 5.0+ its 64bit?
What will be the price?
What will be the price?
Hey guys they're talking about the zenfone 2 to be AT&T exclusive and stuff. Do you guys think it will be like any other flagship phone? What I mean by this is that do you still think it will be unlocked ? Because I will not be paying monthly for a phone.
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What makes you say its 32bit? Surely as its 5.0+ its 64bit?
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On the phone, if you install antutu benchmark and check device info on it, it will give you details about the OS. Under it is says Android 5.0 (32bit). They're expecting with the 5.1 update that it will be a 64 kernel. I could be wrong, but this is just what I have seen and what has been mentioned quite a bit in zenfone forums by asus with people complaining.
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On the phone, if you install antutu benchmark and check device info on it, it will give you details about the OS. Under it is says Android 5.0 (32bit). They're expecting with the 5.1 update that it will be a 64 kernel. I could be wrong, but this is just what I have seen and what has been mentioned quite a bit in zenfone forums by asus with people complaining.
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Cool, I see, that should be a great update then and make things more efficient.
I can't imagine they will make it an AT&T exclusive. Did you read that somewhere, and if so, can you share the link? If that's the case, then the darn thing will be locked to AT&T. And AT&T will have their nonsense stuff on it!
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Hey guys they're talking about the zenfone 2 to be AT&T exclusive and stuff. Do you guys think it will be like any other flagship phone? What I mean by this is that do you still think it will be unlocked ? Because I will not be paying monthly for a phone.
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`The link is in the first post of the thread but I posted it for you again. First paragraph of the article. - "On the 18th of May in Manhattan, New York, ASUS will be visiting with a USA-based taste of their smartphone ZenFone 2. This device will subsequently be available at AT&T - like previous releases of ASUS phones in the United States."
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-zenfon...aled-30381599/
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That Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 is looking better now. I hope they sell it unlocked but if it only works on AT&T networks that's okay. I'm leaving AT&T and going to H2O Wireless this month so I'm not buying a locked phone. And yes I know H2O and other virtual carriers will take locked AT&T phones. The good thing about the Alcatel Idol 3 is that it will work on AT&T and T-Mobile U.S. networks.
AT&T is going to render the phone less useful. Also, I doubt the AT&T version will be dual sim. I hope it's also available unlocked via 3rd party retailers, such as Amazon.
Just ordered the ZE550ML 2 GB model. I'll let you guys know about the camera and performance next week, so stay tune!
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2GB model, no thanks, I will stick with the 4/64 that I picked up in Taiwan
I think that it's smart that people ordered their's esrly, because maybe they might put the phablet on a AT&T. Just a prediction
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so order early is better?
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
Is there any way I can get RCS and phone recording without rooting and losing OTA updates?
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There are some csc's that re-enable some of those settings. I can't remember which one's but you can find that info with google. The cleanest method is to root, but i can understand that you don't want to.
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TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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You can get a European Exynos [bootloader unlockable and rootable] or the Chinese or Brazilian Snapdragon [bootloader unlockable and rootable]
You can use these versions with U.S carriers, just be sure to check the Bands available on the handset and the Bands used by your chosen carrier.
As far as carrier, i am on T-Mobile (with Chinese Snapdragon [SM-N9750/ds] and tmobile has "opened" their network to other handsets. Meaning, RCS, Video Calling, Wifi Calling is working out of the box. No tweaking necessary to get the full features. I recommend Tmobile to anyone asking me.
There are a few Bands Tmobile uses which are not "enabled" on the SM-N9750...band 66 and 71 but for me living in a "big city" opposed to rural, have not noticed any difference in service in the 90 days or so that I've had this handset. (Prior phone was Tmobile branded Note 8).
Also there is a guide for unlocking missing bands for Snapdragon Note 10's however at the moment i haven't seen a calculator or guide to calculate the necessary edits to enable bands higher than Band 44...i assume it will come about in due time...but as stated i have not run into a situation that appeared different network connectivity wise to my Note 8.
YMMV, but look into the info and find what works best for you in your location.
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The days of rooting and flashing custom ROMs are over with U/U1 hardware version (SD). Quite honestly, not really needed on a note 10+ ... I am a heavy user, with many needed tweaks and special security needs. I managed to handle everything on stock ROM..
Sometimes I miss the good old days of flashing and rooting.. but no real need for it..
Gotta disagree....Viper4A is a must for me along with a handful other apps that require root, and being able to edit the cscfeatures and build.prop are also essential.
Of course this pertains to my use.
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I've activated Spam Call blocking and Call Recording....both features "removed" by tmobile as well as other U.S carriers (global too)
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TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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For the Pixel 4XL you can either buy the unlocked version from the Google store or BestBuy, Both can be bootloader unlocked. There are only a few custom kernels and mods to flash and no ROMs with the 4XL. Personally after owning one for about two weeks I would stay away from the 4XL because Google cut too many corners this year for the price they want. It's a decent phone but the build quality isn't the best and it's lacking in features. I'm not a fan of the thin aluminum and plastic frame Jerryrig pointed out on youtube. Between the two your money would be more wisely spent with the Note 10 @louforgiveno is talking about. I had the US snapdragon Note 10 for about two weeks as well but settled on the Iphone 11 Pro Max to change things up for a while. The Note is far superior to the Pixel for build quality and features. Both cameras have their good points and bad so that's not much of a concern.
louforgiveno said:
You can get a European Exynos [bootloader unlockable and rootable] or the Chinese or Brazilian Snapdragon [bootloader unlockable and rootable]
You can use these versions with U.S carriers, just be sure to check the Bands available on the handset and the Bands used by your chosen carrier.
As far as carrier, i am on T-Mobile (with Chinese Snapdragon [SM-N9750/ds] and tmobile has "opened" their network to other handsets. Meaning, RCS, Video Calling, Wifi Calling is working out of the box. No tweaking necessary to get the full features. I recommend Tmobile to anyone asking me.
There are a few Bands Tmobile uses which are not "enabled" on the SM-N9750...band 66 and 71 but for me living in a "big city" opposed to rural, have not noticed any difference in service in the 90 days or so that I've had this handset. (Prior phone was Tmobile branded Note 8).
Also there is a guide for unlocking missing bands for Snapdragon Note 10's however at the moment i haven't seen a calculator or guide to calculate the necessary edits to enable bands higher than Band 44...i assume it will come about in due time...but as stated i have not run into a situation that appeared different network connectivity wise to my Note 8.
YMMV, but look into the info and find what works best for you in your location.
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Can you provide a link to the guide?
pdaddy said:
Can you provide a link to the guide?
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Sure....here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3983257
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RCS and Recording
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I've activated Spam Call blocking and Call Recording....both features "removed" by tmobile as well as other U.S carriers (global too)
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Can you please send instructions on how to enable the call recording and RCS on the SM-N9750?
Will this allow for future OTAs?
Will both Sim cards still work?
bebzbebz said:
Can you please send instructions on how to enable the call recording and RCS on the SM-N9750?
Will this allow for future OTAs?
Will both Sim cards still work?
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If you go here to post #96 you can use my Csc that i edited to allow for that plus a bit more.....if you're not on Tmobile, just compare the csc against the one you are using and make the manual edits (ie, false to true etc) and then push it to your phone. (Manually overwrite your stock csc) edit permissions and reboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=80887359
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louforgiveno said:
If you go here to post #96 you can use my Csc that i edited to allow for that plus a bit more.....if you're not on Tmobile, just compare the csc against the one you are using and make the manual edits (ie, false to true etc) and then push it to your phone. (Manually overwrite your stock csc) edit permissions and reboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=80887359
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I'm not T-Mobile, I'm not even in the US now, I travel back and forth so I need something that works over as many networks as possible. I'll check out the post and see how to do the changes. Does this mean I need to root?
Will this affect future OTA updates?
TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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BigE said:
The days of rooting and flashing custom ROMs are over with U/U1 hardware version (SD). Quite honestly, not really needed on a note 10+ ... I am a heavy user, with many needed tweaks and special security needs. I managed to handle everything on stock ROM..
Sometimes I miss the good old days of flashing and rooting.. but no real need for it..
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I mostly agree with you but really would like to have a bloatware free load and full administrator rights.
Ran/run all my Windows machines like that with very few issues.
Without PD MDM my Note is a mess; about 60 blocked apks. As such it runs very well and is very customized... sweet.
My biggest grip...
The phone's OS load should be fully clonable to make reloads as painless as possible; >60 minutes instead of 8+ hours. That's pure bs.
It has a huge SD card to act as a data drive if only the OS drive wasn't all screwed up locked down.
In less then a year have done 2 full reloads due to a buggy 3rd party launcher, not fun.
bebzbebz said:
I'm not T-Mobile, I'm not even in the US now, I travel back and forth so I need something that works over as many networks as possible. I'll check out the post and see how to do the changes. Does this mean I need to root?
Will this affect future OTA updates?
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Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
Is there any way I can get RCS and phone recording without rooting and losing OTA updates?
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Hi, does anyone have the XT2013-2 and can you confirm if it has VoLTE and VoWiFi?
YES!
Yup, it supports both.... Although do check with your Carrier once as well..... If you are an Indian user, then currently Jio and Airtel supports it.
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Yup, it supports both.... Although do check with your Carrier once as well..... If you are an Indian user, then currently Jio and Airtel supports it.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I typed in an IMEI from a XT2013-1 model and T-Mobile (United States) stated that VoLTE was not supported. I guess I would need to get the IMEI of a XT2013-2 in order to fully confirm.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I typed in an IMEI from a XT2013-1 model and T-Mobile (United States) stated that VoLTE was not supported. I guess I would need to get the IMEI of a XT2013-2 in order to fully confirm.
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XT2013-2 is the international version, if I'm not mistaken...? Getting a device from another region will most likely not work, since support is added on the OS level. Since the OS is slightly different, the support is also different. So there's a pretty high chance that it will not work, since that particular carrier has not been added to that particular version of the OS.
With that being said, VoLTE and VoWIFI (aka WiFi Calling) are generally supported on the XT2013. And I can personally confirm they are supported on the XT2013-2.
BUT:
1. support for each carrier is software dependent. So the fact that it works for my carrier doesn't mean it will automatically work for yours, especially if we're not living in the same region (EU for example)
2. the phone won't enable VoLTE and VoWIFI if the carrier doesn't support these services to begin with (which I think is quite obvious).
3. I'm pretty new to this VoLTE and VoWIFI thing, too, but, assuming the carrier does support those services on their side, they also need to enable them on your account. This is usually done by activating it on the SIM card. Once that's done, and if the OS supports those services for that particular carrier, the options should be activated automatically (usually VoLTE is turned ON by default) or at least made available in Setting (in the case of Wifi Calling). So you can turn them on for yourself.
So, support for VoLTE and VoWIFI is a combination of carrier and manufacturer collaboration. Can't work one without the other.
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XT2013-2 is the international version, if I'm not mistaken...? Getting a device from another region will most likely not work, since support is added on the OS level. Since the OS is slightly different, the support is also different. So there's a pretty high chance that it will not work, since that particular carrier has not been added to that particular version of the OS.
With that being said, VoLTE and VoWIFI (aka WiFi Calling) are generally supported on the XT2013. And I can personally confirm they are supported on the XT2013-2.
BUT:
1. support for each carrier is software dependent. So the fact that it works for my carrier doesn't mean it will automatically work for yours, especially if we're not living in the same region (EU for example)
2. the phone won't enable VoLTE and VoWIFI if the carrier doesn't support these services to begin with (which I think is quite obvious).
3. I'm pretty new to this VoLTE and VoWIFI thing, too, but, assuming the carrier does support those services on their side, they also need to enable them on your account. This is usually done by activating it on the SIM card. Once that's done, and if the OS supports those services for that particular carrier, the options should be activated automatically (usually VoLTE is turned ON by default) or at least made available in Setting (in the case of Wifi Calling). So you can turn them on for yourself.
So, support for VoLTE and VoWIFI is a combination of carrier and manufacturer collaboration. Can't work one without the other.
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Thanks for the info. Would either of you be able to enter your IMEI into the T-Mobile checker to see what it displays in terms of functionality? Just looking for results of what is supported/what isn't.
https://www.t-mobile.com/resources/bring-your-own-phone
Also, how do you like the One Action? The only reason I want to get the global version is because I want the Android One program. The XT2013-4 from the United States is not the Android One version, and I know how slow Motorola is for regular updates.
Where did you get that model# from? The only place I can find the phone is on Amazon and the "manufacture reference" is pagl0001us.
Also where did you read the XT2013-4 is not part of the Android One program? Everything I've read has said all models were part of the program and fully compatible with T-Mobile, including Motorola's own website.
The variant is on the box. The XT2013-4 in the United States is the single SIM version that also supports CDMA networks. It is not Android One.
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The variant is on the box. The XT2013-4 in the United States is the single SIM version that also supports CDMA networks. It is not Android One.
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https://www.phonemore.com/models/motorola/one-action/
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Thanks for the info. Would either of you be able to enter your IMEI into the T-Mobile checker to see what it displays in terms of functionality? Just looking for results of what is supported/what isn't.
https://www.t-mobile.com/resources/bring-your-own-phone
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It doesn't show anything in my case. Either there's a bug with their site, or...I don't know. It just spins the loading animation for a fraction of a second and that's it. No info provided.
Also, if you can, try to Edit your posts rather than always creating new ones. It's easier to read and follow, in my opinion. Just a suggestion.
So far so good. I like my One Action. The updates are really not that fast. That would probably be my only "complaint". But other than that, I'm pretty happy with it. Of course, your milage may vary. ) Since it depends on your expectation and your specific use case.
I don't expect it to make me french fries in the morning. It's a mid-range phone and the software definitely helps. Battery life it's been pretty good for me, too. I usually get 2 days out of it with moderate use. And three days with low usage. Anyway, if you're a heavy user, you should get at least a full day out of it.
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https://www.phonemore.com/models/motorola/one-action/
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That site only lists 3 models: CT2013-1 through -3
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Also, how do you like the One Action? The only reason I want to get the global version is because I want the Android One program. The XT2013-4 from the United States is not the Android One version, and I know how slow Motorola is for regular updates.
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Except for the Camera quality, everything is quite decent. However, if you're more into flashing recoveries and custom ROMs then you'll be left disappointed, considering it has Exynos chipset. And for the same reason, it quite difficult to get hold of a working GCam, with even basic functionalities.
Moreover, Android One is the major factor why I went ahead with this device. However, half of Feb has passed, and we are still stuck on December Security Patch! All in all, nothing's going right for Moto One Action at this moment
EDIT: @diggyphil Sorry for the late reply.. I tried entering the IMIE on the t-mobile site, but it doesn't show anything whatsoever..just load and refresh and it repeats the process.
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Except for the Camera quality, everything is quite decent. However, if you're more into flashing recoveries and custom ROMs then you'll be left disappointed, considering it has Exynos chipset. And for the same reason, it quite difficult to get hold of a working GCam, with even basic functionalities.
Moreover, Android One is the major factor why I went ahead with this device. However, half of Feb has passed, and we are still stuck on December Security Patch! All in all, nothing's going right for Moto One Action at this moment
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Nah, I was thinking of just having this one as a backup. I have a OnePlus 7 Pro that is my daily driver, which will be a very difficult breaking up period when it happens (it's an amazing phone)! I had the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite as my backup phone, and it seemed to get updates every 1.5-2 months. I think they advertise Android One as monthly updates, but in actuality it is more like every 2 months.
Any chance you could validate your IMEI on the T-Mobile website and see what information it displays about the service? https://www.t-mobile.com/resources/bring-your-own-phone
Is there a secret code to turn on or off VoWifi on Motorola One?
There might be. And even if there isn't there are apps and ways to get access to that specific setting.
BUT, short answer is: if your carrier supports it, and if it's baked into the OS, you'll see the option anyway. If it's not there for you, it means you can't turn it on. And even if you try to force it, it would still not work, since it needs support from both the carrier and the manufacturer.
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The strange thing for me was that VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling do not work on XT2013-2 with Telekom.de (Germany) on reteu firmware. I have checked on my mother's phone, which is the same model and it also does not show the options.
After flashing mine to RETAIL 10.0 firmware instead of reteu, both work out of the box.
Asbi12 said:
The strange thing for me was that VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling do not work on XT2013-2 with Telekom.de (Germany) on reteu firmware. I have checked on my mother's phone, which is the same model and it also does not show the options.
After flashing mine to RETAIL 10.0 firmware instead of reteu, both work out of the box.
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In my case however, with the same firmware (but different country and carrier), I lost both Volte and Vowifi after flashing. The options are there. They just don't do anything. So...lucky you! )
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binary**# said:
Yup, it supports both.... Although do check with your Carrier once as well..... If you are an Indian user, then currently Jio and Airtel supports it.
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Does it have carrier aggregation in jio and airtel?
Hello,
I'm a foreigner living in China and I'm very interested in the OP11. I noticed that the Chinese version doesn't mention the eSim on OP Chinese website, but that the international version has dual sim + eSim. To be fair I never see any Chinese version of phones with eSim.
I was wondering if once we switch the OP11 Chinese version to Oxygen OS, does the eSim is activated? Can you see it in the settings? Is that working?
Thanks in advance.
slayer03 said:
Hello,
I'm a foreigner living in China and I'm very interested in the OP11. I noticed that the Chinese version doesn't mention the eSim on OP Chinese website, but that the international version has dual sim + eSim. To be fair I never see any Chinese version of phones with eSim.
I was wondering if once we switch the OP11 Chinese version to Oxygen OS, does the eSim is activated? Can you see it in the settings? Is that working?
Thanks in advance.
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eSim requires a hardware component and I assume that it's not installed in the Chinese version to save money. So even if you had the option on a converted unit, it probably won't work
XDRdaniel said:
eSim requires a hardware component and I assume that it's not installed in the Chinese version to save money.
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Incorrect. It's built into the SoC now. They started it with Snapdragon 888 (and OnePlus didn't activate that one either).
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Thanks for your reply guys. I guess we need to wait for more development on the OP11 to discover if the eSim can or cannot be activated.
I remember when I had the OP5, at that time it was only 1 hardware version of phone, but just the software that changed.
XDRdaniel said:
eSim requires a hardware component and I assume that it's not installed in the Chinese version to save money. So even if you had the option on a converted unit, it probably won't work
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My Chinese Oneplus 11 comes with "ORoaming", it let's you to "purchase international data packages without a SIM card", that sounds like eSim to me.
alexander宇 said:
My Chinese Oneplus 11 comes with "ORoaming", it let's you to "purchase international data packages without a SIM card", that sounds like eSim to me.
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Thanks for your feedback. Do you still have Color OS or have you flashed to OxygenOS?
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alexander宇 said:
My Chinese Oneplus 11 comes with "ORoaming", it let's you to "purchase international data packages without a SIM card", that sounds like eSim to me.
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They've had this since at least the OnePlus 9. They never allowed anyone to actually use it for anything other than that stupid roaming though.
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They've had this since at least the OnePlus 9. They never allowed anyone to actually use it for anything other than that stupid roaming though.
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As far as I know Chinese carriers haven't introduce eSim yet except for Apple watches, eSim would be of no use to most Chinese customers. At least the hardware is there, my guess is you will get fully functional eSim after converting to OxygenOS.
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As far as I know Chinese carriers haven't introduce eSim yet except for Apple watches, eSim would be of no use to most Chinese customers. At least the hardware is there, my guess is you will get fully functional eSim after converting to OxygenOS.
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Now that they have added eSIM support to US models, I would suspect that the software will activate it, but don't quote me on that, and also the process of converting regions is much more dangerous now that there is no MSM Tool available so people who plan to do this should also be prepared to have to fork out cash to have the phone repaired in case they brick it.
Plus, I forget which thread mentioned this- some US bands missing on Chinese versions
horsecharles said:
Plus, I forget which thread mentioned this- some US bands missing on Chinese versions
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yeah tmo's N71
alexander宇 said:
yeah tmo's N71
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More than that.
My post in another thread:
It's missing B71 as well as n71 and n25 which means poor performance on T-Mobile. It is likely missing 3.45GHz n77 as well because there's no reason to certify that on a Chinese device and T-Mobile is preparing to deploy that at the end of the year.
It's missing B13 which means no Verizon support. The omission of mmWave significantly impacts many larger Verizon markets too.
It's missing B14, B29, B30 as well as their 5G counterparts and likely is missing 3.45GHz n77 as well as mentioned above but unlike T-Mobile, AT&T has already been deploying this as a number of their markets they can't use the rest of their n77 holdings until 2024 (mine included).
Anyone buying these phones for US use will definitely experience problems.
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I converted to oxygen os today using the OFP rom cause I my call is blocked today, after switching I can call with no issue atm and can use 5g which I wasnt able to on color os, Verizon
sunxutian said:
I converted to oxygen os today using the OFP rom cause I my call is blocked today, after switching I can call with no issue atm and can use 5g which I wasnt able to on color os, Verizon
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Can you use eSim?
I am curious about this, too. Anyone flashed the Chinese version to global rom, and have esim can confirm?
kwokchun said:
I am curious about this, too. Anyone flashed the Chinese version to global rom, and have esim can confirm?
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Yes.
My mobile provider's app recognises that the phone supports eSIM but I haven't gone through the steps to test it actually works.
I can toggle the eSIM on/off in settings too. When I turn it on, it disables the physical SIM in slot 2.
I might have another play around with it later on and see if I can sign up to another phone provider, in the name of testing the functionality haha
Ok, so I've tried to set up eSIM on the converted China version and it doesn't work.
While the option enables and shows as a device feature, tapping on the Add button does nothing.
I'd say the hardware is disabled on the China version.
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Ok, so I've tried to set up eSIM on the converted China version and it doesn't work.
While the option enables and shows as a device feature, tapping on the Add button does nothing.
I'd say the hardware is disabled on the China version.
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Thanks for taking one for the team! That's good to know.
sunxutian said:
I converted to oxygen os today using the OFP rom cause I my call is blocked today, after switching I can call with no issue atm and can use 5g which I wasnt able to on color os, Verizon
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switching to OOS can solve the region block problem? As I am not in a region-lock country, I cannot tell other users.