http://www.slashgear.com/asus-zenfone-2-usa-model-specifications-revealed-30381599/
for those still waiting, here is the news.
Its good that they are finally going to do a US release but I don't understand the mentality of only releasing the 2GB RAM version initially to "compete" with this years flagship phones like the M9 and S6. I bought mine from a website that sent it from China and 4GB RAM and it works great, I would love to see a US release mainly for the US based firmware so that it works better on the networks because its just not doing great on signal right now.
WTF. Why would you NOT sell the 4gb when that's like, the selling point of the phone for some people?
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WTF. Why would you NOT sell the 4gb when that's like, the selling point of the phone for some people?
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4gb is one huge selling point, but not have to purchase through a carrier is another. Will this also be available unlocked from Amazon or other?
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Its good that they are finally going to do a US release but I don't understand the mentality of only releasing the 2GB RAM version initially to "compete" with this years flagship phones like the M9 and S6. I bought mine from a website that sent it from China and 4GB RAM and it works great, I would love to see a US release mainly for the US based firmware so that it works better on the networks because its just not doing great on signal right now.
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great minds think alike, i'm just hoping if we could flash the us based firmware to get better signal
Man, I hope they won't put a carrier plan on it for
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um....sounds pretty bad....
is the taiwanese version works better than the china version in USA and Canada?
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great minds think alike, i'm just hoping if we could flash the us based firmware to get better signal
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I agree. Thats the only thing I want to see out of this release now is better signal. I am not getting LTE for T-Mobile just H+ but it doesn't bother me to much. Everything I am able to do with this phone I am more than happy with. And an update to a 64 bit OS would be nice. Everything ASUS is putting out for this phone is still on 32 bit OS. Which is nonsense when you're spouting everything about 64 bit chips.
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um....sounds pretty bad....
is the taiwanese version works better than the china version in USA and Canada?
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Neither one work good for US and CA. You can still call and text but browsing just isnt going to go over smoothly. When I first got it in, it had China's firmware which was difficult to navigate through and didn't have Gapps or any native google support. What I did, and pretty much everyone else that has bought it from overseas what flash the firmware to the European version which is WW. Switching the firmware in and of itself was a pain because the bootloader is still locked. China is CN, Taiwan is TW, and another they just released is JP which I assume is Japan. The European version still doesn't get LTE Signal but runs a lot more smoothly than CN, or TW and gets better signals. If you got it, just flash to a WW firmware and the phone will work awesome.
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I agree. Thats the only thing I want to see out of this release now is better signal. I am not getting LTE for T-Mobile just H+ but it doesn't bother me to much. Everything I am able to do with this phone I am more than happy with. And an update to a 64 bit OS would be nice. Everything ASUS is putting out for this phone is still on 32 bit OS. Which is nonsense when you're spouting everything about 64 bit chips.
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Neither one work good for US and CA. You can still call and text but browsing just isnt going to go over smoothly. When I first got it in, it had China's firmware which was difficult to navigate through and didn't have Gapps or any native google support. What I did, and pretty much everyone else that has bought it from overseas what flash the firmware to the European version which is WW. Switching the firmware in and of itself was a pain because the bootloader is still locked. China is CN, Taiwan is TW, and another they just released is JP which I assume is Japan. The European version still doesn't get LTE Signal but runs a lot more smoothly than CN, or TW and gets better signals. If you got it, just flash to a WW firmware and the phone will work awesome.
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What makes you say its 32bit? Surely as its 5.0+ its 64bit?
What will be the price?
What will be the price?
Hey guys they're talking about the zenfone 2 to be AT&T exclusive and stuff. Do you guys think it will be like any other flagship phone? What I mean by this is that do you still think it will be unlocked ? Because I will not be paying monthly for a phone.
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What makes you say its 32bit? Surely as its 5.0+ its 64bit?
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On the phone, if you install antutu benchmark and check device info on it, it will give you details about the OS. Under it is says Android 5.0 (32bit). They're expecting with the 5.1 update that it will be a 64 kernel. I could be wrong, but this is just what I have seen and what has been mentioned quite a bit in zenfone forums by asus with people complaining.
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On the phone, if you install antutu benchmark and check device info on it, it will give you details about the OS. Under it is says Android 5.0 (32bit). They're expecting with the 5.1 update that it will be a 64 kernel. I could be wrong, but this is just what I have seen and what has been mentioned quite a bit in zenfone forums by asus with people complaining.
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Cool, I see, that should be a great update then and make things more efficient.
I can't imagine they will make it an AT&T exclusive. Did you read that somewhere, and if so, can you share the link? If that's the case, then the darn thing will be locked to AT&T. And AT&T will have their nonsense stuff on it!
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Hey guys they're talking about the zenfone 2 to be AT&T exclusive and stuff. Do you guys think it will be like any other flagship phone? What I mean by this is that do you still think it will be unlocked ? Because I will not be paying monthly for a phone.
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`The link is in the first post of the thread but I posted it for you again. First paragraph of the article. - "On the 18th of May in Manhattan, New York, ASUS will be visiting with a USA-based taste of their smartphone ZenFone 2. This device will subsequently be available at AT&T - like previous releases of ASUS phones in the United States."
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-zenfon...aled-30381599/
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That Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 is looking better now. I hope they sell it unlocked but if it only works on AT&T networks that's okay. I'm leaving AT&T and going to H2O Wireless this month so I'm not buying a locked phone. And yes I know H2O and other virtual carriers will take locked AT&T phones. The good thing about the Alcatel Idol 3 is that it will work on AT&T and T-Mobile U.S. networks.
AT&T is going to render the phone less useful. Also, I doubt the AT&T version will be dual sim. I hope it's also available unlocked via 3rd party retailers, such as Amazon.
Just ordered the ZE550ML 2 GB model. I'll let you guys know about the camera and performance next week, so stay tune!
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2GB model, no thanks, I will stick with the 4/64 that I picked up in Taiwan
I think that it's smart that people ordered their's esrly, because maybe they might put the phablet on a AT&T. Just a prediction
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so order early is better?
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Title says it all. I'm running a 851 T-mobile variant with TWRP and AOKP (new rom posted today) on it. Same bands and LTE works perfect. So the question stands why don't you AT&T owners sell yours and do the same? More development is going on since the bootloader is already unlocked and the more using one version the better for development as well in my eyes.
Maybe there is a specific reason but what am I missing?
I'm on Sprint and paid 99 for my phone. That's the only reason.
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I'm on Sprint and paid 99 for my phone. That's the only reason.
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Makes sense not switching carriers, and sprint is CDMA not GSM so wouldn't work regardless. Threads more toward the AT&T owners and all the Bootloader Bounty chatter....
Got ya. Us Sprint guys are in the same boat. If they succeed in an unlock I'm definitely gonna donate if they don't charge anything for it.
Well AT&T is the better network hands down so there's that and if someone didn't think about bootloaders and development before purchasing chances are they don't need or want to root so there's 2 really good reasons why not to sell an AT&T G3 for the same exact phone on another network. That and also that its the same exact phone on another network.
I did it, mine 855P is the same as international 855 but with LTE from Mexico and USA so I sold it and bought a T-Mobile just for the same price =D and I still have my wireless charger that came with my 855P + an upgrade from 16gb/2gb RAM to 32gb/3gb RAM, a good deal.
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Well AT&T is the better network hands down so there's that and if someone didn't think about bootloaders and development before purchasing chances are they don't need or want to root so there's 2 really good reasons why not to sell an AT&T G3 for the same exact phone on another network. That and also that its the same exact phone on another network.
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Well that exactly what i did had the 850 and sold it on ebay and got the 851. 851's are cheaper actually. Still on AT&T network, agree its the better network hands down. If I chose to sell this it can go either ATT or T-mobile and works on LTE for both.
I guess i don't see your argument at all..
That's really not a terrible idea, lol. I friggen hate having this locked bootloader on my 850. Does the TMobile variant have the EXACT same bands as the AT&T one?
My other option is to just sell this stupid thing and buy a Nexus X when it comes out.
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I did it, mine 855P is the same as international 855 but with LTE from Mexico and USA so I sold it and bought a T-Mobile just for the same price =D and I still have my wireless charger that came with my 855P + an upgrade from 16gb/2gb RAM to 32gb/3gb RAM, a good deal.
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Exactly, and thanks for making remember it has the Qi wireless which is much more popular.
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That's really not a terrible idea, lol. I friggen hate having this locked bootloader on my 850. Does the TMobile variant have the EXACT same bands as the AT&T one?
My other option is to just sell this stupid thing and buy a Nexus X when it comes out.
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Do it, I made money actually. And you can literally download the IMEI unlock app on Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.servtified.unlock_lg_g3&hl=en) and pay 5 dollars to have it working on AT&T LTE in the matter of minutes. You do need to add your APN info for ATT but that''s it, works awesome!
Yes it has the exact same bands identical.
ej_424 said:
Well that exactly what i did had the 850 and sold it on ebay and got the 851. 851's are cheaper actually. Still on AT&T network, agree its the better network hands down. If I chose to sell this it can go either ATT or T-mobile and works on LTE for both.
I guess i don't see your argument at all..
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Not an argument, actually a reason to be satisfied with their purchase is that its on AT&T. I'm on T-Mobile but I don't defend their service, just went through them to lease the G3 and not pay outright for it. Going back to Straight Talk soon since I already SIM unlocked it. I would hope that a normal non obsessed person would consider all their options for US variants and not go through the headache of switching carriers for the exact same phone and sell the other. Not everyone cares about unlocking phones, some people are satisfied with simply having them, I'm not one of those people, but they do exist.
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Not an argument, actually a reason to be satisfied with their purchase is that its on AT&T. I'm on T-Mobile but I don't defend their service, just went through them to lease the G3 and not pay outright for it. Going back to Straight Talk soon since I already SIM unlocked it. I would hope that a normal non obsessed person would consider all their options for US variants and not go through the headache of switching carriers for the exact same phone and sell the other. Not everyone cares about unlocking phones, some people are satisfied with simply having them, I'm not one of those people, but they do exist.
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Hear you loud and clear, but we are on XDA right? Having said that anyone on this forum is interested in having full control of their phone period.
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Hear you loud and clear, but we are on XDA right? Having said that anyone on this forum is interested in having full control of their phone period.
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Why would you assume that? I've seen plenty of posts by users running stock unrooted devices. Just because its not unlocked doesn't mean people don't have a passion for development.
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Why would you assume that? I've seen plenty of posts by users running stock unrooted devices. Just because its not unlocked doesn't mean people don't have a passion for development.
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Getting off topic, the point of the thread was for those who are on AT&T and want a unlocked bootloader. I dont think some people are aware of the logical move, and that both versions have the same bands.
Care to share a link for this AOKP rom you speak of?
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Care to share a link for this AOKP rom you speak of?
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yes i dont see it anywhere
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Title says it all. I'm running a 851 T-mobile variant with TWRP and AOKP (new rom posted today) on it. Same bands and LTE works perfect. So the question stands why don't you AT&T owners sell yours and do the same? More development is going on since the bootloader is already unlocked and the more using one version the better for development as well in my eyes.
Maybe there is a specific reason but what am I missing?
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op, where is this aokp rom you speak of?
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yes i dont see it anywhere
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op, where is this aokp rom you speak of?
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Sorry for the confusion, its not the original aokp. It's under android development section. Its not lgs rom though.
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Sorry for the confusion, its not the original aokp. It's under android development section. Its not lgs rom though.
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the alpha aosp or a different one?
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the alpha aosp or a different one?
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Lol no wonder... Yea my mistake AOSP.
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Lol no wonder... Yea my mistake AOSP.
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had me all excited there lol. youre running it without sound or vibration?
Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
Downloading mine now
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Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
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Shut up idiot..you only know about it cause I text you and told you. Lol
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Software update includes
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
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How are your menu screens black? I'm assuming that is a theme?
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How are your menu screens black? I'm assuming that is a theme?
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Yes, it's a theme. It's called fantasy dark.
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Ok... I'll jump. Already ran the Fall update on Winders 10, might as well throw my phone into early-adoption-land as well.
Not finding this update on my phone. On Cricket Wireless network running on unlocked AT&T version. Since Cricket uses AT&T network, it shouldn't matter much. Is this available via Smart Switch yet or strictly OTA?
Might be prep for Marshmallow
Does anyone have an offline copy of this or previous version that I can flash through odin? I am 2 versions behind and software update says I m on the latest.
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Does anyone have an offline copy of this or previous version that I can flash through odin? I am 2 versions behind and software update says I[']m on the latest.
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Contact AT&T tech support by online chat and they can push the update to your phone. (I did that for one of the Note 5s I'm helping to maintain.)
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Contact AT&T tech support by online chat and they can push the update to your phone. (I did that for one of the Note 5s I'm helping to maintain.)
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Tried the online chat. The customer rep refused to push said they have no ability to contact the phone as Cricket Wireless is servicing it. I think its all BS.. the rep didn't know what she was talking. Tried another rep, same answer. I have used TMobile Note Edge on Cricket Wireless and always got the latest OTA updates.
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Tried the online chat. The customer rep refused to push said they have no ability to contact the phone as Cricket Wireless is servicing it. I think its all BS.. the rep didn't know what she was talking. Tried another rep, same answer. I have used TMobile Note Edge on Cricket Wireless and always got the latest OTA updates.
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The problem here is that your using Cricket, even though the phone may be on an AT&T Network, AT&T will not recognize the device as being on their network. AT&T is always fairly strict with who, what, and when they roll out updates. It is also possible it just isn't available in the area you are as well. If all else fails go to a Best Buy and have them flash the device to the most current at the Samsung Kiosk. Though they are usually about a month or so behind on updates typically, at least last I recall anyway. Believe me if AT&T Execs had their way I am more than willing to bet they would lock their phones down so hard no one would be able to take their phones to another carrier. T-Mobile on the other hand is fairly open with what people do with their cellphones hence the reason most of their phones can be rooted etc.
On am on at&t with an AT&T phone and I am on old version? I called at &t and Rep says they cannot push an update? Ended up having me call asurion. Insurance company for the phone and they have no idea? Any help in this matter would be great.
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The problem here is that your using Cricket, even though the phone may be on an AT&T Network, AT&T will not recognize the device as being on their network. AT&T is always fairly strict with who, what, and when they roll out updates. It is also possible it just isn't available in the area you are as well. If all else fails go to a Best Buy and have them flash the device to the most current at the Samsung Kiosk. Though they are usually about a month or so behind on updates typically, at least last I recall anyway. Believe me if AT&T Execs had their way I am more than willing to bet they would lock their phones down so hard no one would be able to take their phones to another carrier. T-Mobile on the other hand is fairly open with what people do with their cellphones hence the reason most of their phones can be rooted etc.
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Already been to Best Buy. They are 2 versions behind on this as well. So I have the version what Best Buy has...ending with AO16
Mine just received the update. Installed and apps are optimizing now.
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Mine just received the update. Installed and apps are optimizing now.
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What's the baseband or are we talking about J1 ?
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Is the OTA pushed file stored somewhere on the phone? May be it can be flashed thru odin?
Chris V said:
On am on at&t with an AT&T phone and I am on old version? I called at &t and Rep says they cannot push an update? Ended up having me call asurion. Insurance company for the phone and they have no idea? Any help in this matter would be great.
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It's been what five hours. Just wait tell they get you.
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If someone tells me how i will save the file and upload it when i get home. I have the update postponed currently.
I'm on AT&T, but no contract so, correct me if I'm wrong, there isn't any reason to buy the note from AT&T. How, as an American, do I buy the international version? The only place I see it is on amazon, where they're charging an extra 100$ for.
Additionally is there any reason not to go with the international version?
Just wait for the N930U. Or shell out the extra $100 for the exynos variant.
I'm personally getting the N930V with Verizon and I'll flash the U firmware later like I did with my S7 edge. You could do the same, unless you're more interested in a potential bootloader unlock.
The 930U is the unlocked American version? When does that even come out? I don't care about the bootloader, I just would prefer the exynos version because it's usually a slight bit better, but I'm not dropping 980$ on it.
The U version of the S7 was still a snapdragon. If you want the exynos, you'll need to get the international version. It's not out so that's probably why it's still pricey. If you want to save some cash just wait for it to be cheaper on Swappa or eBay.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galax...ack-Silver-Gold-Blue-/201637586849?nav=SEARCH
Only $30 more than carrier pricing on eBay.
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Just wait for the N930U. Or shell out the extra $100 for the exynos variant.
I'm personally getting the N930V with Verizon and I'll flash the U firmware later like I did with my S7 edge. You could do the same, unless you're more interested in a potential bootloader unlock.
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How did you flash the U version I thought Verizon has locked bootloaders and you couldn't make modifications ?
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It flashes through Odin. Since it's a stock firmware it flashed over just fine.
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Here's another store selling for even less. I'm not sure if they charge tax though, but either way with any carrier upgrade you're looking at the phone price and tax anyways.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1269581-REG/samsung_n930_black_galaxy_note_7_64gb.html
would it be worth it to spend 100$ more to buy the Exynos version? That's what I am wondering too...
are there any downside?
Isn't there more support for Exynos version and more battery saving?
If you're a Flashaholic like me it is definitely worth getting an unlocked Exynos version with its unlocked bootloader.
But the down side is lack of warranty and some of the frequencies that you're carrier uses may not be available on the International version
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If you're a Flashaholic like me it is definitely worth getting an unlocked Exynos version with its unlocked bootloader.
But the down side is lack of warranty and some of the frequencies that you're carrier uses may not be available on the International version
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Thanks! that's what I was thinking! and Exynos version seems to have better battery as well!
As for frequencies - it looks like they are good for most Canadian wireless companies.
Do we know for sure if Exynos N930F will come with an unlocked bootloader? (still waiting to order mine)
And what about warranty? Isn't Samsung supposed to honor warranty no matter where you buy it from on brand new phones just launched for a year since their launch date (it only makes sense and they used to back in Galaxy S2 days - from experience) *sigh*
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Thanks! that's what I was thinking! and Exynos version seems to have better battery as well!
As for frequencies - it looks like they are good for most Canadian wireless companies.
Do we know for sure if Exynos N930F will come with an unlocked bootloader? (still waiting to order mine)
And what about warranty? Isn't Samsung supposed to honor warranty no matter where you buy it from on brand new phones just launched for a year since their launch date (it only makes sense and they used to back in Galaxy S2 days - from experience) *sigh*
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Nope, from what im seeing they wont honor warranty in the US if you buy an international phone. Thats my major hurdle right now. I would really like to get some type of warranty. Even contacted Squaretrade and they said no. So will try upsie.
it's been a few years since I bought international, last phone was s3, what's the current state of international Samsung phones on att? do we still only get 2 compatible bands? I know theres a thing where you have to use the phone for 5 mins in that country with the country Sim card, anything else I should know about? speed and coverage still good? i been out of the game a bit so I'm playing catch up here.
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If you're a Flashaholic like me it is definitely worth getting an unlocked Exynos version with its unlocked bootloader.
But the down side is lack of warranty and some of the frequencies that you're carrier uses may not be available on the International version
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I am in the same boat as you. Being able to flash my phone and play around with it, is my version of a work day stress reliever. Being an owner of a S7E and my old reliable N4, I cant wait for the N7 to be released. I will be replacing my N4 with it so I need to make sure that the Intl version will be unlocked. Will be following the early reports that will soon start trickling in as units arrive to their new owners.
I may be able to help I'm in Thailand.
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naruto.ninjakid said:
Nope, from what im seeing they wont honor warranty in the US if you buy an international phone. Thats my major hurdle right now. I would really like to get some type of warranty. Even contacted Squaretrade and they said no. So will try upsie.
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I bought the N7 from BHP (link you posted earlier) they have it available for pre-order and in the checkout they offered Square Trade for Warrenty - I also used Square Trade when I purchased the S7Edge (international Version) So I don't think it is giong to be a problem for you if you want to use Square Trade or any other major warrenty program like Upsie. Good Luck
Thanks Alot !
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I bought the N7 from BHP (link you posted earlier) they have it available for pre-order and in the checkout they offered Square Trade for Warranty - I also used Square Trade when I purchased the S7Edge (international Version) So I don't think it is going to be a problem for you if you want to use Square Trade or any other major warranty program like Upsie. Good Luck
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This is why I like this community. Thanks for coming back and updating. This was my biggest issue and you have now solved it. knowing I can get a warranty alleviates the what if's for me. I'm paranoid and always insure my devices even though i have never broken one. So I will be ordering from B&H as well. They seem very knowledgeable on unlocked phone issues from the FAQ and they don't charge tax in some states. All Im waiting for now is to see if Root is coming and development support. I'm on T-Mobile by the way so I will not get VoLTE and WiFi-calling but TEKHD said he will work on that in his ROM so I have some hope. Thanks again.
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This is why I like this community. Thanks for coming back and updating. This was my biggest issue and you have now solved it. knowing I can get a warranty alleviates the what if's for me. I'm paranoid and always insure my devices even though i have never broken one. So I will be ordering from B&H as well. They seem very knowledgeable on unlocked phone issues from the FAQ and they don't charge tax in some states. All Im waiting for now is to see if Root is coming and development support. I'm on T-Mobile by the way so I will not get VoLTE and WiFi-calling but TEKHD said he will work on that in his ROM so I have some hope. Thanks again.
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I am on ATT and use the G935F right now on ATT and it works great - I don't knwo for sure if the N930 (note 7) will be unlocked but it seems like it probably will be - I htink the chances are high that the bootloader is unlocked and if that turns out to be true, root is not too far away - just need to get it in the hands of a few devs who do that sort of thing - and all should be good. Fingers Crossed...
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I bought the N7 from BHP (link you posted earlier) they have it available for pre-order and in the checkout they offered Square Trade for Warrenty - I also used Square Trade when I purchased the S7Edge (international Version) So I don't think it is giong to be a problem for you if you want to use Square Trade or any other major warrenty program like Upsie. Good Luck
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would you know if the square trade warranty would apply to people living in Canada as well?
cadcamaro said:
Just wait for the N930U. Or shell out the extra $100 for the exynos variant.
I'm personally getting the N930V with Verizon and I'll flash the U firmware later like I did with my S7 edge. You could do the same, unless you're more interested in a potential bootloader unlock.
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Interesting. What advantages does the U firmware have over the stock Verizon firmware, or are you just getting rid of all the Verizon bloat? Do you lose wifi calling and Samsung pay?
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Interesting. What advantages does the U firmware have over the stock Verizon firmware, or are you just getting rid of all the Verizon bloat? Do you lose wifi calling and Samsung pay?
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You lose all bloatware and Verizon apps. It essentially turns the phone into a stock Samsung expensive.
You will lose any carrier extras like wifi calling VOLTE and Verizon's own vvm service. For some reason they only allow you to install their voicemail apps on their phones. Samsung pay still works though, and to get around the voicemail issue I just use Google voice as a forwarding number if I don't answer. It's honestly better than any carrier voicemail service I've used as there's no extra charges and you get notifications anywhere.
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You lose all bloatware and Verizon apps. It essentially turns the phone into a stock Samsung expensive.
You will lose any carrier extras like wifi calling VOLTE and Verizon's own vvm service. For some reason they only allow you to install their voicemail apps on their phones. Samsung pay still works though, and to get around the voicemail issue I just use Google voice as a forwarding number if I don't answer. It's honestly better than any carrier voicemail service I've used as there's no extra charges and you get notifications anywhere.
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Yeah I use Google voice as well. Great info thanks
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Just downloaded and installed OTA.
jschramm said:
Just downloaded and installed OTA.
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Does it include AI camera ? Or just normal Oreo update?
Seems to include AI camera. On boot it now says LG V30 ThinQ
sai444 said:
Does it include AI camera ? Or just normal Oreo update?
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Per Reddit:
8.0.0 with March 2018 patch level. Update complete. Took about 30 minutes including downlaod time. Hopefully all works well. Interested that the boot splash screen ID'd the phone as LGV30 ThinQ
Got the update when I wasn't on Wifi. Now when I click continue update, I just get "checking software update....." with nothing, been over an hour now.
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The fact that the Globally Unlocked US998 is behind AT&T and Verizon is extremely frustrating.
ragtim said:
The fact that the Globally Unlocked US998 is behind AT&T and Verizon is extremely frustrating.
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Someone explained why in another thread. Because the official carrier unlocked model has to work on all carriers, not just one.
By the way, the AT&T Oreo update is better than Verizon's:
https://www.droid-life.com/2018/03/28/atts-lg-v30-now-getting-oreo-update-too-adds-thinq-features/
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ragtim said:
The fact that the Globally Unlocked US998 is behind AT&T and Verizon is extremely frustrating.
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Not for AT&T customers.
I know it's a small thing, but I was hoping we'd get the solid white navbar buttons with the Oreo update. Oh well.
I don't have att anymore but I stayed with the device, can I still get it on wifi?
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Not for AT&T customers.
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Actually, I'm an AT&T customer with a globally unlocked US998 that is extremely frustrated.
Lmax579 said:
I don't have att anymore but I stayed with the device, can I still get it on wifi?
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I have not been able to yet.
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I have not been able to yet.
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So it looks like the acct had to be active right?
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Actually, I'm an AT&T customer with a globally unlocked US998 that is extremely frustrated.
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Understand the frustration. Unfortunately, (or fortunately, depending on what we actually get), even though you are on AT&T, your phone is still the unlocked US998 version. The version of Oreo that we US998 owners will eventually get will not be the same as the carrier locked ones, because the version that we receive has to work on every carrier that could actually support our devices, and not just the one carrier that a locked phone uses.
Personally, since LG is the one pushing that version, I hope that it is the 8.1 with the additional software for the AI features.
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Understand the frustration. Unfortunately, (or fortunately, depending on what we actually get), even though you are on AT&T, your phone is still the unlocked US998 version. The version of Oreo that we US998 owners will eventually get will not be the same as the carrier locked ones, because the version that we receive has to work on every carrier that could actually support our devices, and not just the one carrier that a locked phone uses.
Personally, since LG is the one pushing that version, I hope that it is the 8.1 with the additional software for the AI features.
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Oh I know. I was just responding to the person I responded to because it seemed like he/she didn't get that.
That said, it appears that AT&T is rolling out 8.0 with the AI features, so that's what I expect, at best.
I wouldn't mind be surprised with an 8.1 + AI update instead, though.
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So it looks like the acct had to be active right?
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I just spent some time with LG Chat and they confirmed that the only way to update a carrier device is to have an active SIM from the carrier inserted.
Looks like I may be buying a cheap AT&T plan. Yay.
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I just spent some time with LG Chat and they confirmed that the only way to update a carrier device is to have an active SIM from the carrier inserted.
Looks like I may be buying a cheap AT&T plan. Yay.
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So I can just get a prepaid plan and I'm good to go?
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So I can just get a prepaid plan and I'm good to go?
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In theory, yes. In practice... who knows It looks like the cheapest plan is $35 per month, but there may be ways to make that cheaper. I will be with family for the holiday this weekend, I am pretty sure that my parents are AT&T users... I may see about using one of their SIMs for a little bit to see what happens.
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In theory, yes. In practice... who knows It looks like the cheapest plan is $35 per month, but there may be ways to make that cheaper. I will be with family for the holiday this weekend, I am pretty sure that my parents are AT&T users... I may see about using one of their SIMs for a little bit to see what happens.
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I should be able to get a regular plan like a 25 cents per minute plan right?
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I should be able to get a regular plan like a 25 cents per minute plan right?
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you know what, I did not even look that closely. I just went straight to the prepaid page - lol.
Let me know what you find though, I'd be cool with something like that.
Hi guys,
I live in Europe(Croatia) where only the exynos version of Note 10+ is available. I am looking for a new phone and my wish number 1 is Note 10+, but the snapdragon variant.
If I decide to import it from somewhere, will it work here? I am even ready to risk and go without a warranty.
I was googling it, but find contradictory information. So I decided it is better if I open a new thread for it.
There are a lot of questions I want to ask
What version to import? Will I receive software updates? Will I have all network bands? What about regional unlock?
Thank you.
I think you won't have any problem provided you import the unlocked international version (if there is one where you want to import from).
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Thx, but which one of these(SM-N975F (Europe); SM-N975F/DS (Global); SM-N975U (USA); SM-N975U1 (USA unlocked); SM-N975W (Canada); SM-N9750/DS (LATAM, Brazil, China); SM-N975N (South Korea)) is unlocked international version?
If you are referring to global SM-N975F/DS, it also has exynos: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note10+-9732.php#sm-n975f-ds
You'll find all Note 10+ available models here: https://www.phonemore.com/models/samsung/galaxy-note-10-plus/
Based on SAMMOBILE site, which has all firmwares for all Note 10+ models (https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note-10-plus/firmware/#SM-N975U1), I understand that, in fact, any of the models can be locked to a certain cellular network or unlocked. So the unlocked version should be international also. The only thing that will make a difference between same Note 10+ model sold in different countries is the ability to record phone calls, which is restricted in some countries. Regarding firmware updates, there should not be any problem, you will only get the updates when they are officially released for the country you bought the phone from.
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Really don't care about phone calls recording...I just want a functional phone.
Do you have any suggestions on where to buy it? EDIT: preferably from Europe
third party sellers are the only way you will get a snapdragon phone in europe, the entire european market is on Exynos, so you would either have to find a site willing to export to your country or a local seller who imports the phones. either way it won't be from a first party phone shop.
then if you do import you have to watch the sim unlocking rules, as the european phones need to use a european sim for a short period before unlocking to work for other countries, so buying from a reseller who has already done the network unlock meaning you will always be getting an opened box devices with no guarantee it's new and likely no warranty.
I bought a Snapdragon version N9750 on Ebay, from a seller in Europe. It's working great for me, I live in Sweden. Updates are working, but for example the 2.1 update that have rolled out to Exynos devices still haven't come to my device. But I'm not to stressed over updates anymore
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I bought a Snapdragon version N9750 on Ebay, from a seller in Europe. It's working great for me, I live in Sweden. Updates are working, but for example the 2.1 update that have rolled out to Exynos devices still haven't come to my device. But I'm not to stressed over updates anymore
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How did you get rid of region lock? Or it came in the open box already unlocked?
I'm sorry, I do not have any suggestions. Belimawr said it all. I'm just not sure about what he said regarding the need to use a phone bought in Europe, for the first few days, with an european simcard, in order to have it unlocked. In the days of Note 4, I bought one in Germany (me living in Israel), during a trip, and use it without a simcard, for navigation only or at home on wifi. I never had a local simcard and I bought it (in a big shop) as international version. Never had problems with it, it was unlocked from the beginning. There are many risks you have to take when ordering online, from unknown sources. What's so bad with the Exynos? I have it and I'm very pleased with it.
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Take a look at this thread:
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...1&share_fid=3793&share_type=t&link_source=app
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tmatkovic said:
How did you get rid of region lock? Or it came in the open box already unlocked?
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It came in the box already unlocked :good:
uhi711 said:
Belimawr said it all. I'm just not sure about what he said regarding the need to use a phone bought in Europe, for the first few days, with an european simcard, in order to have it unlocked.
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https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/samsung-region-lock-what-is-it-and-how-do-you-get-rid-of-it.html
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What's so bad with the Exynos? I have it and I'm very pleased with it.
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Well, there are many resources on the internet that saying Exynos is inferior in lot of categories.
I don't care if it has slightly inferior CPU speed because it is enough for my needs. I also don't care it is much inferior in GPU speed because I don't play graphic intensive games. I can also live with a slightly inferior camera.
But what I do care is an inferior signal and battery life(bigger standby battery drain, bigger energy consumption for the same workload).
yeah that link posted above is what I Was talking about with unlocking, it isn't much to unlock the "unlocked" phones but it can be a problem if it comes to you brand new and still with the lock in place as you would then need to source a way of doing the time in calls with the sim from the intended region, it's why most imports come open box as they do the phone call before exporting it making the phone technically second hand and likely voiding any warranty directly from Samsung so you would be reliant on the person who sent you the phone. there is also stories about of firms like Samsung not doing repairs on devices outside of their intended regions so any fault would likely need a third party repairer as well.
I've been using the Exynos since it came out and honestly even under above average use I easy get a day out of the battery and as far as performance goes, it does everything I need it to. the big problem with the Exynos Vs SD argument is it goes by benchmarks on phones and chances are in the real world those difference will be that small people wont even notice them under general use. it's always been a problem with technology people look at benchmark numbers and in the real world they generally mean very little as they are done under lab conditions and not actual usage or with devices that have been used day in and day out, it is on clean devices fresh out of the box with little bulk, 12 month down the road the numbers could shift but in truth unless you sit the 2 side by side you are unlikely to actually notice the difference.
personally for me it's easier to just buy the local one as in day to day use you are gaining nothing by taking the extra steps to get one from a different region unless you are specifically going for something like dual sim that might not be in your region or if you are picking the device up cheaper.
Regarding the region lock, if this would be your case, looks like there is an other solution to unlock it, if using a local sim for 5 minutes isn't possible.
Take a look here: https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note9/Regional-lock/td-p/650891
Or here: https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5...5G/Regional-Lock-Samsung-10-Note/td-p/1504884
Or here:
https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5...10-5G/European-SIM-card-only-S10/td-p/1296078
So, my point is that if you intend to buy your phone from an european country, then you shouldn't have any region lock problem. In my opinion, the only thing that could make me import a phone from an other country by online ordering would be a big difference in price. But also in this case I would think twice because we should not forget the customs taxes and the shipping fees.
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Check on Wonda Mobile. They have a really good reputation and have the snapdragon version available. It looks like all the 5G versions are sold out but they have the non 5G versions at very good prices too.
I live in Russia and use the Hong Kong version and I still haven’t received a firmware update to 2.1, do you have any update information? Thank you in advance
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I live in Russia and use the Hong Kong version and I still haven’t received a firmware update to 2.1, do you have any update information? Thank you in advance
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I don't think Samsung has released it yet. I'm still waiting for mine as well, and don't see anything official yet:
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9750/TGY/doc.html
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Check on Wonda Mobile. They have a really good reputation and have the snapdragon version available. It looks like all the 5G versions are sold out but they have the non 5G versions at very good prices too.
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Thx, seems they have very good trustpilot score. I might go for it.
Don't need 5G here atm anyway.
Samsung is slower with updating the Snapdragon versions, always a few weeks after the Exynos versions
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I've been using the Exynos since it came out and honestly even under above average use I easy get a day out of the battery and as far as performance goes, it does everything I need it to. the big problem with the Exynos Vs SD argument is it goes by benchmarks on phones and chances are in the real world those difference will be that small people wont even notice them under general use. it's always been a problem with technology people look at benchmark numbers and in the real world they generally mean very little as they are done under lab conditions and not actual usage or with devices that have been used day in and day out, it is on clean devices fresh out of the box with little bulk, 12 month down the road the numbers could shift but in truth unless you sit the 2 side by side you are unlikely to actually notice the difference.
personally for me it's easier to just buy the local one as in day to day use you are gaining nothing by taking the extra steps to get one from a different region unless you are specifically going for something like dual sim that might not be in your region or if you are picking the device up cheaper.
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The SD variant is better in terms of battery efficiency which makes another significant difference that affects the daily use of any owner if we ignore the better overall performance.
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The SD variant is better in terms of battery efficiency which makes another significant difference that affects the daily use of any owner if we ignore the better overall performance.
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I easy get a full day out of it and can sit several hours straight gaming on the phone, the size of the battery unless you are being kept alive by looking at the screen it will get you through a day and I honestly doubt the difference is anything substantial enough to make a difference (you aren't getting 2 days without really light use)