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Bought one from Mobile fun.
The good:
- it works! There's something quite impressive about the setup, especially with a BT mouse and keyboard.
The bad:
- 1080p output is working. However, it seems to just scale up the apps from the phone original resolution. This means when browsing documents on polaris office on a 72" hdtv, the file names are 50cm long. In a nutshell unless they develop apps to make use of the extra screen estate you won't be using it.
- The screen display of the phone itself stick to 'on'. It's really annoying - and if you leave it plugged in for an entire day or longer you will reduce the life of your AMOLED display
Yeah, everything is upscaled from 480x800. To be honest, I wasn't really expecting developers to go and re-create everything in their apps just for the sake of the HDMI output of the Galaxy S 2.
Videos (and maybe photos?) are output at full 1080p.
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Very nice review, my friend. I've been looking around for a good security camera for the home that is wireless. This one seems to have an AC output needed for power and by the looks of it doesn't seem like it would be weatherproof. Do you know if it can be mounted outside? Thanks .
Thank you for the review.
I've been thinking of getting 2~3 IP camera's when I move to my own house (hopefully soon). These look good for the price.
Do you have any idea if these work with Synology Surveillance Station? I'd like to manage the cams on my Synology NAS, and keep the recordings stored on it. Unfortunately, the brand is not on Synology's Camera Support List.
Do you happen to own a Synology and want to test Surveillance Station? Many thanks in advance!
I'm pretty sure they will not work with that system. As a matter of fact, I got confirmation that other outdoor camera from the same ESCAM company will not integrate with that app, but they are working on updated version, to be released soon.
That Synology sounds a bit too complicated, surveillance for professional use/monitoring. Sorry, don't have or use anything like that. I was very impressed with a simplicity of the camera above and will wait for their outdoor version to add to a few outside monitoring points (just to catch neighbors walking their dogs on our lawn lol!!!). For home, I just need it to monitor my kids and when we are away on vacation.
Motion detection
Hi, don't you know, that this Escam Pearl camera has motion detection, which sends pictures to FTP/e-mail? I can't see it in specs..
Thanks a lot!
PedroKV
pedrokv said:
Hi, don't you know, that this Escam Pearl camera has motion detection, which sends pictures to FTP/e-mail? I can't see it in specs..
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Take a look at the one but last picture. Guess it does.
@vectron
There is a microSDHC card reader to store recordings locally, and you can store them on your Windows pc as well? Is there any option to save the recordings on a network share (e.g. on a NAS) (without a computer running)?
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Take a look at the one but last picture. Guess it does.
@vectron
There is a microSDHC card reader to store recordings locally, and you can store them on your Windows pc as well? Is there any option to save the recordings on a network share (e.g. on a NAS) (without a computer running)?
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No, unfortunately it either records directly to microSD or when you click manually from a phone/tablet or PC where it gets stored locally. Maybe you need something more advance for what you are looking for. Maybe something like Dropcam, though it cost $200 per indoor cam and $99 annually to have cloud recording (I think 1 week stored interval only, for more you need to pay a lot more). This ESCAM solution is really for a budget oriented surveillance. They just need to add outdoor camera support to their app, and it will be pretty good. For NAS storage, it probably needs some extra security options enabled or something (sorry, have no idea about this stuff, so just guessing).
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Unfortunately, it's not weatherproof. This is for indoor use or if you mount it by the window looking outside for outdoor surveillance. I see DX has a lot of other ESCAM cameras for outdoor use: http://www.dx.com/s/escam - I will request to get some for review, and will ask which one they can suggest to me that integrates with their current app. That would be an ultimate solution to have a split screen with multiple views of indoor and outdoor monitoring points. Btw, it supports more than 4 views, since i see Windows app with 16 views. DX, also has a dedicated page for this QF100 camera now : http://c.dx.com/collection/201408/e..._medium=homerotate&utm_campaign=20140812escam
I actually think this wireless outdoor ESCAM version will work great with it: http://www.dx.com/p/escam-q6320wifi...w-24-ir-led-white-eu-plug-318846#.U-zR12O5Q08 - I will try to get a review sample to see how it integrates with QF100 and common app control.
I do have and reviewed DropCam as well. It's a nice camera which I use often when my kids are in the basement playing. But it's limited to a fixed wide angle and after awhile it overheats because it's such a tight design with hardly any airflow (also for internal use only). The biggest problem - you have to pay monthly fee to get video access, beside $200 price tag.
But honestly, this QF100 camera is very good for $56 and has a lot of features. Definitely recommend it!
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Thanks for the reply, buddy. I def agree with you. This is a great budget camera and I honestly don't feel that DropCam is worth it at all. I'm not a big fan of annual fees with limitations on storage capacity. A camera system should be straight forward and simple for you to have complete access to because it is YOURS. I really hope a perfect outdoor system comes. Let me know how it turns out when you get that review sample .
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Thanks for the reply, buddy. I def agree with you. This is a great budget camera and I honestly don't feel that DropCam is worth it at all. I'm not a big fan of annual fees with limitations on storage capacity. A camera system should be straight forward and simple for you to have complete access to because it is YOURS. I really hope a perfect outdoor system comes. Let me know how it turns out when you get that review sample .
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I got confirmation that outdoor camera they have right now will not integrate with their app. They are working on a new version of outdoor camera (I just assume the same guts as QF100 inside of their current outdoor camera enclosure), and I will update my review as soon as I get a sample!
Btw, Anker is working on their own version of "dropcam" ip camera, without monthly paid subscription but for indoor only. Will be interesting to see what they come up with (I was selected for beta testing, so perhaps will have my impressions in a few weeks).
vectron said:
I got confirmation that outdoor camera they have right now will not integrate with their app. They are working on a new version of outdoor camera (I just assume the same guts as QF100 inside of their current outdoor camera enclosure), and I will update my review as soon as I get a sample!
Btw, Anker is working on their own version of "dropcam" ip camera, without monthly paid subscription but for indoor only. Will be interesting to see what they come up with (I was selected for beta testing, so perhaps will have my impressions in a few weeks).
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Sounds good. Keep us posted. Sorry for the late replies, been pretty busy :angel:.
Hi,
I've just received that cam from DealExtreme.
Good Quality, all perfect on WiFi but, have you tested the factory DDNS to access from an outside network?
Vintorlok said:
Hi,
I've just received that cam from DealExtreme.
Good Quality, all perfect on WiFi but, have you tested the factory DDNS to access from an outside network?
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Hi
I'm wanting to get some of these cams from DealExtreme and mount them externally, but how to do cable them with the huge LAN/Power connector on the end?
Vintorlok said:
Hi,
I've just received that cam from DealExtreme.
Good Quality, all perfect on WiFi but, have you tested the factory DDNS to access from an outside network?
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Absolutely! Nothing needs to be configured, everything works by default. The day I had this camera setup and tested at home on my wifi, I was checking it remotely, later when over at friends house.
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Hi
I'm wanting to get some of these cams from DealExtreme and mount them externally, but how to do cable them with the huge LAN/Power connector on the end?
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These cameras designed for internal (inside of the house) use only. Their housing is not designed for outside use, but the company is working on a new outside version that will work with the same control app. No need to use LAN cable since it's wireless. With power connector, unfortunately, no way around it. Need to bring out the wires. Btw, that is a common power tip on the connector and you can get usb cables with an adapter for that connector. So in theory you can power up multiple cameras from usb ac wall charger, like those 5 port ones from anker or bolse.
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These cameras designed for internal (inside of the house) use only. Their housing is not designed for outside use, but the company is working on a new outside version that will work with the same control app. No need to use LAN cable since it's wireless. With power connector, unfortunately, no way around it. Need to bring out the wires. Btw, that is a common power tip on the connector and you can get usb cables with an adapter for that connector. So in theory you can power up multiple cameras from usb ac wall charger, like those 5 port ones from anker or bolse.
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There's loads of escam outdoor cameras on dealextreme.
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Absolutely! Nothing needs to be configured, everything works by default. The day I had this camera setup and tested at home on my wifi, I was checking it remotely, later when over at friends house.
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Hi Vectron,
I've tried it, typing on an outside network the dns URL http://XXXXXX.ipcam.so but I get this message:
Account [XXXXX] is offline.
What do I have to config to make it work?
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There's loads of escam outdoor cameras on dealextreme.
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None of them integrate with the same app used by QF100. It's not just about the camera. You want to have different cameras connecting to one app so you can monitor everything at once, rather than use different apps for different cameras ESCAM is working on a new outdoor version that will work with their existing app.
Vintorlok said:
Hi Vectron,
I've tried it, typing on an outside network the dns URL http://XXXXXX.ipcam.so but I get this message:
Account [XXXXX] is offline.
What do I have to config to make it work?
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Sorry, I only use an app from my phone, and it works on wifi and 4G LTE. I'm not accessing it from the laptop/web browser.
Is there a good alternative for Synology Surveillance Station that works with the QF100?
The phone app doesn't work on 4g. Status is connection and nothing happens...
Has anyone got this to work other than reviewer?
I largely purchased this camera based on the review here...What a disappointment, either everyone is receiving a different version or the reviewer is making false claims... The camera does NOT work outside of the local LAN! This makes it useless. DDNS does not work. I'm computer savvy have a few other IP cameras and this model is not accessible outside the LAN even if you open all ports on the router. Support requests unanswered... the app is garbage, this camera does not work with other Android apps either, a wasted $60...
Hello, I am considering buying this monitor: https://www.asus.com/Monitors/MB168BPlus/
Does anybody know whether it would work?
Thanks in advance
I'd say your best bet would be to look at getting an MHL adaptor and using HDMI.
I contacted Displaylink, and this is the reply I got:
"Hi
The monitor will need to be connected through an externally powered hub, as the Sony phone will not deliver enough power for the display.
Best regards,
Wim
DisplayLink Technical Support"
Just incase anyone is interested in using their Z5 Premium with a USB monitor...
ASUS MB168B+ compatibility with Z5P
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Hello, I am considering buying this monitor: https://www.asus.com/Monitors/MB168BPlus/
Does anybody know whether it would work?
Thanks in advance
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Hello,
I can confirm that the MB168B+ does work (very well) with the Z5P.
It is correct that the monitor will draw too much power to run direct from the Z5P; you can use a mains powered Hub as mentioned in the thread but you can also use a 'Power Bank' type rechargeable battery in conjunction with an OTG Host Adapter if you need freedom from a mains socket.
The inherent limitation is then simply the capacity of your batteries (you can't concurrently charge the phone while using the micro-USB OTG connection to the display).
Use the native Settings | Device Connection | USB Connectivity to find the ASUS MB168B+
You just need to install DisplayLink Desktop from the Play store (free App), follow the on-screen instructions and away you go.
The app is currently limited to 1 DisplayLink display, operating at a maximum resolution of 1920x1080 (1080p).
One limitation is that the ASUS screen only seems to work in landscape orientation with Android. Brilliant for any App, Video, etc., displaying in landscape 16:9, but doesn't realise the full potential of also being able to give you a full Portrait image using the entire screen with it rotated through 90 degrees.
With the phone connected and home screen displayed, the mirrored image will be upright and centred on the screen.
If you go to an app which supports landscape mode, the ASUS display will follow the physical orientation of the phone to full HD landscape presentation.
The MB168B+ has a built-in Auto Rotate feature which can automatically senses its orientation and switches the display between landscape and portrait based on its position - it works when driven from Windows, but apparently not with the current Android flavoured DisplayLink Driver.. Undoubtedly possible, but one for some permutation of DisplayLink and ASUS to figure and add the functionality into the driver.
That would be particularly handy if you wanted to demonstrate the phone's Home Screen, Settings, etc. to an audience. But doesn't diminish the opportunity to display, for example, 1080p Video straight from the phone onto a decent size screen.
I will take some photos to illustrate the display in operation, running on battery power, and upload later this evening.... now added below:
PS. If you are thinking of buying the ASUS screen, there is a newer model - ASUS MB169B+ recently released with an IPS panel (rather than WLED/ TN) which should be visually a meaningful improvement
[TN has a high response rate and good for gaming, but suffers from colour distortion, especially at wider viewing angles; IPS gives much more accurate colour rendition and across wide viewing angles and is better for photography, video viewing and design].PPS. The stand the ASUS screen is on in the photos is a Belkin FlipBlade - personally I much prefer to the arrangement using the supplied carry sleeve for relatively static desktop use, although that works absolutely fine and is particularly handy if you only want to have the screen in its' case with you and no extra gubbins.
Best regards,
Kevin
kevinpwhite said:
Hello,
I can confirm that the MB168B+ does work (very well) with the Z5P.
It is correct that the monitor will draw too much power to run direct from the Z5P; you can use a mains powered Hub as mentioned in the thread but you can also use a 'Power Bank' type rechargeable battery in conjunction with an OTG Host Adapter if you need freedom from a mains socket.
The inherent limitation is then simply the capacity of your batteries (you can't concurrently charge the phone while using the micro-USB OTG connection to the display).
Use the native Settings | Device Connection | USB Connectivity to find the ASUS MB168B+
You just need to install DisplayLink Desktop from the Play store (free App), follow the on-screen instructions and away you go.
The app is currently limited to 1 DisplayLink display, operating at a maximum resolution of 1920x1080 (1080p).
One limitation is that the ASUS screen only seems to work in landscape orientation with Android. Brilliant for any App, Video, etc., displaying in landscape 16:9, but doesn't realise the full potential of also being able to give you a full Portrait image using the entire screen with it rotated through 90 degrees.
With the phone connected and home screen displayed, the mirrored image will be upright and centred on the screen.
If you go to an app which supports landscape mode, the ASUS display will follow the physical orientation of the phone to full HD landscape presentation.
The MB168B+ has a built-in Auto Rotate feature which can automatically senses its orientation and switches the display between landscape and portrait based on its position - it works when driven from Windows, but apparently not with the current Android flavoured DisplayLink Driver.. Undoubtedly possible, but one for some permutation of DisplayLink and ASUS to figure and add the functionality into the driver.
That would be particularly handy if you wanted to demonstrate the phone's Home Screen, Settings, etc. to an audience. But doesn't diminish the opportunity to display, for example, 1080p Video straight from the phone onto a decent size screen.
I will take some photos to illustrate the display in operation, running on battery power, and upload later this evening.... now added below:
PS. If you are thinking of buying the ASUS screen, there is a newer model - ASUS MB169B+ recently released with an IPS panel (rather than WLED/ TN) which should be visually a meaningful improvement
[TN has a high response rate and good for gaming, but suffers from colour distortion, especially at wider viewing angles; IPS gives much more accurate colour rendition and across wide viewing angles and is better for photography, video viewing and design].PPS. The stand the ASUS screen is on in the photos is a Belkin FlipBlade - personally I much prefer to the arrangement using the supplied carry sleeve for relatively static desktop use, although that works absolutely fine and is particularly handy if you only want to have the screen in its' case with you and no extra gubbins.
Best regards,
Kevin
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Hi Kevin,
Just curious but what rom are you using for your phone to look like that? Sorry, I'm pretty new to this set up but your phone setup and music player looks awesome! I like those toggles as well. Can you show me how to make mine look something like that? :fingers-crossed:
daihanviet said:
Hi Kevin,
Just curious but what rom are you using for your phone to look like that? Sorry, I'm pretty new to this set up but your phone setup and music player looks awesome! I like those toggles as well. Can you show me how to make mine look something like that? :fingers-crossed:
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Hello - thank you for the comments - I'm happy to try and illuminate a bit......
It's the stock ROM as supplied, seasoned with an assortment of apps and widgets.
As this is a bit off topic, I've added a new post with proper screenshots and details of the components in the 'Home Screen' thread instead.
Have a look there and by all means let me know if you've any further questions.
Best regards,
Kevin
kevinpwhite said:
Hello,
I can confirm that the MB168B+ does work (very well) with the Z5P.
It is correct that the monitor will draw too much power to run direct from the Z5P; you can use a mains powered Hub as mentioned in the thread but you can also use a 'Power Bank' type rechargeable battery in conjunction with an OTG Host Adapter if you need freedom from a mains socket.
The inherent limitation is then simply the capacity of your batteries (you can't concurrently charge the phone while using the micro-USB OTG connection to the display).
Use the native Settings | Device Connection | USB Connectivity to find the ASUS MB168B+
You just need to install DisplayLink Desktop from the Play store (free App), follow the on-screen instructions and away you go.
The app is currently limited to 1 DisplayLink display, operating at a maximum resolution of 1920x1080 (1080p).
One limitation is that the ASUS screen only seems to work in landscape orientation with Android. Brilliant for any App, Video, etc., displaying in landscape 16:9, but doesn't realise the full potential of also being able to give you a full Portrait image using the entire screen with it rotated through 90 degrees.
With the phone connected and home screen displayed, the mirrored image will be upright and centred on the screen.
If you go to an app which supports landscape mode, the ASUS display will follow the physical orientation of the phone to full HD landscape presentation.
The MB168B+ has a built-in Auto Rotate feature which can automatically senses its orientation and switches the display between landscape and portrait based on its position - it works when driven from Windows, but apparently not with the current Android flavoured DisplayLink Driver.. Undoubtedly possible, but one for some permutation of DisplayLink and ASUS to figure and add the functionality into the driver.
That would be particularly handy if you wanted to demonstrate the phone's Home Screen, Settings, etc. to an audience. But doesn't diminish the opportunity to display, for example, 1080p Video straight from the phone onto a decent size screen.
I will take some photos to illustrate the display in operation, running on battery power, and upload later this evening.... now added below:
PS. If you are thinking of buying the ASUS screen, there is a newer model - ASUS MB169B+ recently released with an IPS panel (rather than WLED/ TN) which should be visually a meaningful improvement
[TN has a high response rate and good for gaming, but suffers from colour distortion, especially at wider viewing angles; IPS gives much more accurate colour rendition and across wide viewing angles and is better for photography, video viewing and design].PPS. The stand the ASUS screen is on in the photos is a Belkin FlipBlade - personally I much prefer to the arrangement using the supplied carry sleeve for relatively static desktop use, although that works absolutely fine and is particularly handy if you only want to have the screen in its' case with you and no extra gubbins.
Best regards,
Kevin
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Thanks very much for your helpful post, excellent.
I notice in the image you have a power bank (I'm assuming) - could you please share your experiences with powering the monitor from a power bank particularly how much screen time you manage to have, what the monitor brightness is set to and what capacity your power bank is.
Thanks!
diji1 said:
Thanks very much for your helpful post, excellent.
I notice in the image you have a power bank (I'm assuming) - could you please share your experiences with powering the monitor from a power bank particularly how much screen time you manage to have, what the monitor brightness is set to and what capacity your power bank is.
Thanks!
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Hello and thanks for the enquiry. I'm glad you found the original post helpful
Yes, it is a small power bank shown in the pictures. That one is Vinsic 5000 Ah model. It's almost identical in size to a slim 2.5" hard drive such as the Seagate Slim 2TB models and fits very neatly into a neoprene protective sleeve from Clas Ohlsson. I also have a much bigger Vinsic 20000 Ah power bank which gives 4x the capacity. That's also the maximum capacity allowed by IATA (in checked or carry-on baggage).
Since the previous post I've gone over to the newer Asus MB 169 B+ with the IPS display, but for the purposes of power it behaves the same as the MB 168 B+.
I will add some more images in the next few days, including the big Vinsic and more details about run time, etc.
Best regards,
Kevin
Im trying to get my Asus MB169B+ to work with my Samsung S7 Edge.
But after a while it once asked to open the connection with DisplayLink Presenter, and it did work (Also with powerbank as mentioned above).
But it never asks me again, and opening the DisplayLink Presenter doesnt help as well.
How can i connect my S7 Edge to my Asus MB169B+ ?
Thanks
I own a SEAT IBIZA car with Android Auto and Mirror-Link features.
I'm curious to know if there is a possible way to read some information Via CANBUS protocol like RPM, Speed, Oil temperature etc.
through the original USB plug and not from the OBD II.
Thanks in advance!
Chen_Gold said:
I own a SEAT IBIZA car with Android Auto and Mirror-Link features.
I'm curious to know if there is a possible way to read some information Via CANBUS protocol like RPM, Speed, Oil temperature etc.
through the original USB plug and not from the OBD II.
Thanks in advance!
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Of course there is! Not everyone uses those damned rigged* Autel DS708 scantools anymore (even though they have been the gold standard for years, the UI has always been such a......tool.) VAG makes a scanner (not a code reader) that has a USB adapter for some foreign and domestic higher end vehicles.
Just do a Web search for a diagnostic auto scanner with USB adapters, or for the cars with USB diagnostic ports (sometimes they hide diag ports under the hood, too) - I threw it into a Google search and the Seat Ibiza was just the first car I came up with, followed by several scanners with matching port adapters.
Not to sound like a heifer, but finding a tech who is savvy enough to be able to tell the difference between a 16-pin OBD2 port and a USB port is a boon in and of itself. You'd do well to find a well rounded tech with a some history in electronics (wave forms are a marvelous thing when applied to the dynamics of an internal combustion engine and it's components!)
Automotive technicians are a rapidly changing group of people, with those who can't make the cut quickly fall by the wayside, so just be politely persistent about your needs, and [eventually] you may run across someone who specializes [which can be costly] or someone who has enough general knowledge to put a scanner to good use.
Just don't pay a ton of money for the "service" of plugging a scanner in and reading codes or resetting your sun roof - dealerships escalate the costs tremendously, but with intelligent scanners running anywhere from several hundred to several thousand dollars, I'd look for a smaller shop or individual. For what some of the dealers/specialists charge to plug in a scanner you could buy your own scantool!!
All that said, check with your favorite garage and inquire about the make/model of their scanner. The techs who stay up to date may charge a bit more for diagnostics, but it makes the repair a LOT less expensive when they can pinpoint the issues right away, and most are quick to offer up their services to show off that shiny new gadget that can read the cars' minds.
Depending on where you are, I may be able to offer a connect through a tech in your area. They may or may not have a scanner or a friend who does, but I don't mind asking if you'd like.
Good luck!
CC~
EDITED TO ADD: *The Autel Maxidas DS708 is, and has been planned as a terminal application, neatly coinciding with the termination date of Wince 6.x. Want more info? Drop me a line.
I was not sure where to post this because I kindof hijacked the Honda Connect Android thread with alternative solutions so I decided to create a new thread here as it seems more apropriate. I hope this will help others decide on an aftermarket unit that suit their needs.
The unit I bought and pictures with comments.
01.11.2018
I forgot to mention, there are no issues with porlarized sunglasses (vision impaired like I have, or regular). Usually LCD screens are polarized so if you have polarized glasses you only see the full display colors and brightness at a fixed angle 0 or 90 degrees (head straight or tilted to one side). This unit does not suffer from this issue like older phones did. (after posting I noticed I did mention this in my previous note )
28.10.2018
I'm really happy with the unit:
- response time is as fast as you expect it to be (as in touch - do stuff vs. click - you got it, hold on it's comming, almost there, just keep spinning windows/macos stuff)
- display is bright/direct sunlight, polarized sunglasses not an issue
- you can disable most of the inputs that source (steerwheel button) cycles through, except of A/V in (which I think is the LaneWatch camera)
- switching between radio, music, Waze and other apps is instant
- Waze only crashed once during a 450km ride, in the same area it crashes on my phone as well ... really Google ?
In the end I guess it's all about personal prefference about the preinstalled software which you can replace with apps from play store (or other sources) to your liking, so I'm not gonna comment on that as most of the defaults are fine for me it's fine. There are however a vew caveats to consider:
- Since I don't use my google account and created a new one for the unit I don't have access to my contacts. Altho the unit syncs your contacts via bluetooth to the phone app, 'OK Google' cannot use that.
- The default phone app does not have any favourites options, so your best bet is to use the last recent calls. But that list is not synced with your phone, it's only the list from when your phone was connected with the car (tried MTCDTelephonyBridge, did not work).
- There are some volume issues which I could not figure out (yet ). Navigation volume is set on MIXIN and has a range from -10 to + 10. At first I had it on -5, it was very low, then I moved to +7, fine for a while until it became too loud, lowerd to +5 and it was very low, bumped it again to +7 and it was the same low. I wish they would do the 'smart' thing like the original HU and just output navigation to front left speaker (that's the only clever thing I noticed in the decade old default Honda unit)
- Only one screw can be used to fix the unit, the original ones don't fit as they have huge integrated washers. You don't really need to fix it as it won't go anywhere but still, worth mentioning. Also I wanted to insulate all the cables with the same kind of foam that you find around air conditioning pipes, so that the cables don't touch the back plate of the unit. After taking the dashboard off again, I realized there is a ton of space there so the cables will not touch the back of the unit holding the radiator, which anyway is just for the TDA amp, so there was no reason to. If you go for a 2din unit, extra space will be smaller but still plenty of room on the bottom part.
24.10.2018
A few notes of my initial experience after installing the new unit:
1. First and most important for me, the 2 USB ports of the car have different connectors (mindblown). They look the same, but one of them has a different gap (or slit, not sure of the exact word) in one of the corners as you can see in this picture. The adapter provided only fits the gray connector. I'm not sure if the 2nd adapter that I ordered will fit the green one or not (maybe with some tunning it will fit). Now, it's not that important for everyone as you can still very easy pull the 2 other USB ports in the glove compartment (which I did), but now I have 2 unused slots: USB and HDMI.
2. For OCD types, the unit I got has a 9" screen (instead of 8" as described) so the frame that holds the part of the dashboard that you need to remove in order to install the HU stands on top of the screen covering the right part of the screen bezel and the 2nd mic instead of being around the screen (I hope that makes sense). The front pannel itself (bezels included) is a bit larger than the hole in the dashboard. This results in the actual screen being buried about 1cm below the dashboard line (about 5mm more than the original one). This interfeers a bit with the access to the 'hardware' buttons on the left side, but as a driver you don't need them as you can do all that from the steering wheel controlls. One side benefit could be that there is less sunlight hitting the screen. I will update with daytime pictures.
3. There are only 2 screws that can fix the new unit, but the original ones don't fit because of the embeded washers (which can not be removed from the screws ... why ????). The unit will not go anyware thanks to the fitting holes and the dashboard being linked with frame I mentioned before. I will still go look for some replacement screws, just in case.
4. Time for the good part. The difference between the original unit and this one ... day and night. Everithing is so fast and works as it's supposed to. Even the cold boot seems faster (20s or so) than the hot start of the original unit. I still have to test the ergonomics while driving and the long term stability of the whole system, but the first impressions are very positive. You would still have to configure a few things here and there to match you preferences or missing features (like proportion between navigation and music and sound level for different sources - like music and bluetooth, missing lane watch camera - which defaults to on and when you signal right unit will show a warning because of missing camera signal, direction lines when using the reverse camera - which are off by default etc.). There are a ton of options to configure. Plus you get some extra stuff like status of open doors, status of parking sensors, AC feedback (it also has an app for control but does not seem to do anything, I will dig deeper at some point but I don't find it that usefull, still cool tho), automatic door locking when you pass a set speed limit (I have not tested this yet), and probably some others which I am eager to discover.
I will update this post to share my experience with the new unit.
kind3r said:
I was not sure where to post this because I kindof hijacked the Honda Connect Android thread with alternative solutions so I decided to create a new thread here as it seems more apropriate. I hope this will help others decide on an aftermarket unit that suit their needs.
The unit I bought and pictures with comments.
24.10.2018
A few notes of my initial experience after installing the new unit:
1. First and most important for me, the 2 USB ports of the car have different connectors (mindblown). They look the same, but one of them has a different gap (or slit, not sure of the exact word) in one of the corners as you can see in this picture. The adapter provided only fits the gray connector. I'm not sure if the 2nd adapter that I ordered will fit the green one or not (maybe with some tunning it will fit). Now, it's not that important for everyone as you can still very easy pull the 2 other USB ports in the glove compartment (which I did), but now I have 2 unused slots: USB and HDMI.
2. For OCD types, the unit I got has a 9" screen (instead of 8" as described) so the frame that holds the part of the dashboard that you need to remove in order to install the HU stands on top of the screen covering the right part of the screen bezel and the 2nd mic instead of being around the screen (I hope that makes sense). The front pannel itself (bezels included) is a bit larger than the hole in the dashboard. This results in the actual screen being buried about 1cm below the dashboard line (about 5mm more than the original one). This interfeers a bit with the access to the 'hardware' buttons on the left side, but as a driver you don't need them as you can do all that from the steering wheel controlls. One side benefit could be that there is less sunlight hitting the screen. I will update with daytime pictures.
3. There are only 2 screws that can fix the new unit, but the original ones don't fit because of the embeded washers (which can not be removed from the screws ... why ????). The unit will not go anyware thanks to the fitting holes and the dashboard being linked with frame I mentioned before. I will still go look for some replacement screws, just in case.
4. Time for the good part. The difference between the original unit and this one ... day and night. Everithing is so fast and works as it's supposed to. Even the cold boot seems faster (20s or so) than the hot start of the original unit. I still have to test the ergonomics while driving and the long term stability of the whole system, but the first impressions are very positive. You would still have to configure a few things here and there to match you preferences or missing features (like proportion between navigation and music and sound level for different sources - like music and bluetooth, missing lane watch camera - which defaults to on and when you signal right unit will show a warning because of missing camera signal, direction lines when using the reverse camera - which are off by default etc.). There are a ton of options to configure. Plus you get some extra stuff like status of open doors, status of parking sensors, AC feedback (it also has an app for control but does not seem to do anything, I will dig deeper at some point but I don't find it that usefull, still cool tho), automatic door locking when you pass a set speed limit (I have not tested this yet), and probably some others which I am eager to discover.
I will update this post to share my experience with the new unit.
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Are you sure you asked for the correct unit or dasaita sent to you the correct unit?
Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk
ikerg said:
Are you sure you asked for the correct unit or dasaita sent to you the correct unit?
Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk
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Could you be more specific ? There is a link to the unit I bought and pictures in the first post. I asked the seller about compatibility and other stuff before purchasing and he assured me that all is ok. I'm not saing I'm not happy with the unit, the small differences don't bother me, but others might be bugged by those details. Overall I'm just sharing my experience while highlighting differences between expectations (aka product description) and reality
@ kind3r: bought one for my CRV also.. got the same issue with those 3 connections I think its the 2 usb & 1 hdmi connection in the console box of our car. I'm currently looking for a solution for the AC control, and IMID display setting for the steering wheel. I haven't really tinkered with the setting so maybe its just setting or connection issue. Could you pls. update me if you discover the AC thing or other features that you have unlock with your unit.
Is the wheel button works good??
hafidelbazdari said:
Is the weel button works good??
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What's a weel button?
Gesendet von meinem Redmi Note 5 mit Tapatalk
Wifi and Bluetooth..how to they going for you..
Internal speaker for hands free or using external?
What phone are you connecting to it..apple or Android?
kind3r said:
....the 2 USB ports of the car have different connectors...
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Maybe that's because one is for charging? So they separated them via different connectors.
kind3r said:
2. For OCD types, the unit I got has a 9" screen (instead of 8" as described)...
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At the Dasaita Official Store they sell it as a 9" unit.
At the MTKNAVI Store they sell the "same" units.
Main advantage of MTKNAVI store: they ship from EU/Germany. Means no trouble about custom and taxes.
Thanks a lot for creating this thread. I am looking forward to hearing and seeing more from your Dasaita/HR-V experience.
HNDXCRV said:
@ kind3r: bought one for my CRV also.. got the same issue with those 3 connections I think its the 2 usb & 1 hdmi connection in the console box of our car. I'm currently looking for a solution for the AC control, and IMID display setting for the steering wheel. I haven't really tinkered with the setting so maybe its just setting or connection issue. Could you pls. update me if you discover the AC thing or other features that you have unlock with your unit.
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I think it's just so that they only fit one way so service people don't reverse them. Both did the same charging and connection, mirrorlink etc. so I can't really tell if there is actually a difference between them.
The only way I see a connection with the IMID display (mine is next to the speedometer) is via the canbus. I think that traffic is encrypted tho because I saw no mention about it anywhere so far. I'm not even sure if you can set the clock. I will do some more research on the subject.
My unit has an AC app, but it does not control anything. I will dig into that as well, tho I don't find it useful.
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Is the wheel button works good??
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Yes, all wheel buttons work but some with different functions. Hangup button also works as back, source switches between a lot of (some useless for me) apps like the ones for AV inputs but the navigation app is not included (I wish you could set a list of apps to cycle through), the task switcher that used to switch between nav, audio and phone now is the home button, the shortcut button acts as the old android menu button and the voice command does mute. There is no long press 2nd function except for left and right in radio app. I guess installing MTCDTools could improve the situation but I'm ok with the standard config.
dgcruzing said:
Wifi and Bluetooth..how to they going for you..
Internal speaker for hands free or using external?
What phone are you connecting to it..apple or Android?
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I use a phone that sits in the truck for internet via WiFi, no issues so far. For bluetooth/handsfree I use an iPhone, sound quaility is very good both ways, way better than the stock one. Time will tell.
I'm not sure what you mean by internal speaker. It uses the car sound system and speakers and I also connected the external mic that came with the unit and placed it close to the ignition button.
Manfred.62 said:
Maybe that's because one is for charging? So they separated them via different connectors.
At the Dasaita Official Store they sell it as a 9" unit.
At the MTKNAVI Store they sell the "same" units.
Main advantage of MTKNAVI store: they ship from EU/Germany. Means no trouble about custom and taxes.
Thanks a lot for creating this thread. I am looking forward to hearing and seeing more from your Dasaita/HR-V experience.
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Yeah, the taxes thing was a big advantage for me as they usually ship with DHL so you have to pay custom tax and also DHL tax for handling custom tax for you. My unit was shipped from UK, still EU for the next 6 month or so . Also I initially wrote to Dasaita Official Store and I still have not got a reply. MTKNAVI replied within a few hours.
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I think it's just so that they only fit one way so service people don't reverse them. Both did the same charging and connection, mirrorlink etc. so I can't really tell if there is actually a difference between them.
The only way I see a connection with the IMID display (mine is next to the speedometer) is via the canbus. I think that traffic is encrypted tho because I saw no mention about it anywhere so far. I'm not even sure if you can set the clock. I will do some more research on the subject.
My unit has an AC app, but it does not control anything. I will dig into that as well, tho I don't find it useful.
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wanted to change the date & time in my IMID display thats why im looking for workaround.. AC app? what's the name of the app? is it built in? i want to see the climate settings for novelty
kind3r said:
I think it's just so that they only fit one way so service people don't reverse them. Both did the same charging and connection, mirrorlink etc. so I can't really tell if there is actually a difference between them.
The only way I see a connection with the IMID display (mine is next to the speedometer) is via the canbus. I think that traffic is encrypted tho because I saw no mention about it anywhere so far. I'm not even sure if you can set the clock. I will do some more research on the subject.
My unit has an AC app, but it does not control anything. I will dig into that as well, tho I don't find it useful.
Yes, all wheel buttons work but some with different functions. Hangup button also works as back, source switches between a lot of (some useless for me) apps like the ones for AV inputs but the navigation app is not included (I wish you could set a list of apps to cycle through), the task switcher that used to switch between nav, audio and phone now is the home button, the shortcut button acts as the old android menu button and the voice command does mute. There is no long press 2nd function except for left and right in radio app. I guess installing MTCDTools could improve the situation but I'm ok with the standard config.
I use a phone that sits in the truck for internet via WiFi, no issues so far. For bluetooth/handsfree I use an iPhone, sound quaility is very good both ways, way better than the stock one. Time will tell.
I'm not sure what you mean by internal speaker. It uses the car sound system and speakers and I also connected the external mic that came with the unit and placed it close to the ignition button.
Yeah, the taxes thing was a big advantage for me as they usually ship with DHL so you have to pay custom tax and also DHL tax for handling custom tax for you. My unit was shipped from UK, still EU for the next 6 month or so . Also I initially wrote to Dasaita Official Store and I still have not got a reply. MTKNAVI replied within a few hours.
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Hello, For the bluetooth connection, did you use the built-in microphone of the car? if so, Did you add an adapter to operate the integrated microphone of the car?
hafidelbazdari said:
Hello, For the bluetooth connection, did you use the built-in microphone of the car? if so, Did you add an adapter to operate the integrated microphone of the car?
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No, I used the external mic provided with the new unit.
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No, I used the external mic provided with the new unit.
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Can you send me please a picture of this mic?
hafidelbazdari said:
Can you send me please a picture of this mic?
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You can see it in this picture on the left side (near the speedometer): https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cy04WUVYY3RrYTBYSXM0Q1RjSFEzd2RNM1h1ZEd3
Also you can see it in the description of the Dasaita unit at Aliexpress.
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You can see it in this picture on the left side (near the speedometer): https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cy04WUVYY3RrYTBYSXM0Q1RjSFEzd2RNM1h1ZEd3
Also you can see it in the description of the Dasaita unit at Aliexpress.
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Ok thank you, if we have any idea to hide it .it will be better . What the you think?
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Ok thank you, if we have any idea to hide it .it will be better . What the you think?
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Using adapter cables. So one can use the inbuilt microphone and GPS module. We just have to find the correct cables via ebay, Aliexpress...
@kind3r
did you found a connector at the Dasaita harness with 12pin (instead of 14pin at EU version of Connect unit)? That must be connector D in the attached file. Found this info in a german HRV forum. He didn't use this connector (no problems so far).
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Can you send me please a picture of this mic?
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Sligthly better bicture of the mic in the final position.
Manfred.62 said:
Using adapter cables. So one can use the inbuilt microphone and GPS module. We just have to find the correct cables via ebay, Aliexpress...
@kind3r
did you found a connector at the Dasaita harness with 12pin (instead of 14pin at EU version of Connect unit)? That must be connector D in the attached file. Found this info in a german HRV forum. He didn't use this connector (no problems so far).
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Wow, nice find. I was actually looking for that before buying a unit but could not find any schematics.
The back pannel arrangement of the connectors is not similar to my original unit see a picture of the back of mine here, but connectors seem to be more or less the same. Now, not all the connectors on the car have a corespondend on the harness and viceversa. The connector you are reffering to must be the Sirius XM receiver (? satelite radio) which as far as I know is not available in EU. Also, the USB connectors look the same in your document but in my case they are a bit different by just a small notch. What is the functionality you are interested in so I can tell you if it works for me or not.
On a side note, I have tested the unit during the last few days using the auto sleep feature, witch does not do a shutdown + cold boot so the unit starts in 1-2 seconds after you start the car. There is still a small delay after that when you get notifications about the SD card and USB stick that are being mounted so that's another 2-3 seconds until playback resumes, so it's still faster than the cold boot which takes around 25 seconds. But as android tends to be like windows on the long term, I will stick with the cold boot 'mode'.
As @HNDXCRV and others mentioned, I could not find a way to set the clock on the factory display. But as DST changed in my country, with a big bang I might add (earthquake during the night, could not sleep after that :/) to my surprise the car's clock changed as well. So I guess there is some communication from the HU, at least for time. My guess is playing in Factory Settings could result in AC being controlled from the unit as well. But I don't really see the point in doing that since dedicated hardware buttons are better than touching a display.
Some were concerned about the performance of the display in direct sunlight. Today was a sunny day, I took a trip to the seaside and I can tell you I had no issues looking at the display with my polarised sunglases on. Also the angle of the polarisation did not seem to matter as tilting my head did not do anything to the brightness level or colors, so kudos for that, it's a really nice display. At some point I was looking through the settings and realized it was only at 75% brightness.
Overall I really love this unit. Of course it's not perfect and there is some room for improvement here and there, but there are no words to describe the difference of (first and foremost for me) performance, sound quality, level of customization, size and quality of the display. Most of the small things that bother me are due to software ergonomics say like the radio app having a dedicated button for stereo lock, instead of something more useful (not that anything comes to mind right now). You have to customize a bit to your liking, I have uninstalled/disabled apps that cycle via the source button on the steering wheel, changed the volumes of navigation, radio, music, a2dp etc. to my personal preference. Also there are a ton of replacement apps for the stock ones, play store is full of choices if you have enough time to try them out, like launchers, dialers, music apps etc.
I still have to update to the latest Android version (unit came with 20180809, latest is 20181011, but with newer MCU 2.98_1) but since there is no reason to, I will hold off for the moment. I am tempted to do a full reset of the unit as there are some leftovers from the seller testing the unit like paierd phones etc. (not that it matters too much).
@kind3r
thanks a lot for your infos. Seems like this device is really worth it. I can not decide yet.
What I like to do if...
connect the original GPS (via adapter, found in ebay)
connect the original microphone (via adapter, not found yet)
Questions:
the radio has RDS fully working (channel names, radio text, traffic TP/TA) ?
is the Dasaita usable without internet connection (only radio or mp3) or does it throw error messages?
does "Ok Google" work? Or do we need the MtcDialer
Because of updates: maybe it's best to do it at the beginning.
For the GPS adaptor it will still take around 2 weeks to get to me so I can post some feedback about it.
I could not find any reference in the connectors for the integrated mic. I'm not sure if an adapter exists. At first I thought this will bother me but it tursn out it's not really that big of a deal. Sound quality is way better than with the original mic/HU combination.
RDS is working but unfortunatelly I cannot test traffic as it is not available in my country. The radio app has switches to enable disable TA and TP but since there is no broadcast for that ... they don't do anything for me.
It should not throw errors without an internet connection but for me the whole point was to use it with Waze for the realtime traffic information. There is a version of iGO preinstalled with Europe maps on an 8G SD card. I will probably buy a bigger card that can fit the iGO maps and music so I have an offline navigation as a backup just in case.
'OK Google' is working but unfortunatelly I think it uses the contacts from the google account and does not use the contacts synced via bluetooth from the paired phone. Since I created a new account for the car I don't have any contacts but I will add some just to test. MTCDialer did not work for me, it always crashes on launch.