Root without knox trip? - Samsung Galaxy S9 Questions & Answers

I've been searching and reading a whole bunch on XDA and the internet but I can't seem to find a direct answer to my question. Can the exynos 960F/D be rooted without having to install recovery and tripping Knox?

highaltitude said:
I've been searching and reading a whole bunch on XDA and the internet but I can't seem to find a direct answer to my question. Can the exynos 960F/D be rooted without having to install recovery and tripping Knox?
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No, it isn't possible. Knox will be tripped when you install a custom recovery which you have to do in order to root your phone. It hasn't been possible to modify a Samsung phone without tripping Knox for the last couple of years.

OK thanks,because my S8 Snapdragon is rooted without tripping Knox. Just wasn't sure if the exynos could use the engineering kernel too.

highaltitude said:
OK thanks,because my S8 Snapdragon is rooted without tripping Knox. Just wasn't sure if the exynos could use the engineering kernel too.
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No its a completely different animal unfortunately. Would be nice though
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

Is it still impossible?

kesleybenedet said:
Is it still impossible?
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[Q] Root Note 3 without tripping KNOX counter?

So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
If you are talking about the DeLaVega method, yes that will root without tripping Knox. To flash the volume mod though, you need a custom recovery like TWRP. Flashing TWRP will trip the Knox counter
Also keep in mind according to this Root De La Vega thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
Samsung has caught on and has started patching bootloaders, you can still root, but you will trip KNOX.
If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!
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So confirm your firmware version before proceeding.
Dreamgun said:
Also keep in mind according to this Root De La Vega thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
So confirm your firmware version before proceeding.
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This isn't a worry for us N900T users, as we have yet to receive an update. In other words, If you have the Tmobile variant, you don't have a patched bootloader (for now).
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DataHawg said:
If you are talking about the DeLaVega method, yes, that will root without tripping Knox. To flash the volume mod though, you need a custom recovery like TWRP. Flashing TWRP will trip the Knox counter
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Not true, you can modify the audio on the system with file explorer root or download app
mrej201 said:
Not true, you can modify the audio on the system with file explorer root or download app
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I assumed he meant flashing Jovy23's volume mod which is a flashable zip file. It's a waste of everyone's time to read your post unless you post info so the OP can do what you suggest and solve his low volume problem without root.
Is there other method for MJ7 device to root without tripping knox?
youtube video
XX_Fallen_XX said:
So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
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please email me the link to [email protected]. cheers
XX_Fallen_XX said:
So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
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I have been using Poweramp for over a year, and it works flawlessly. It doesn't require root, and you can not only use EQ, pre-amp(db +/-), bass, treble, stereox, but you can also create custom settings for earphones, bluetooth, phone speaker,etc. I highly recommend, as it is only $4.99 for lif, and you can transfer to as many devices as you wish
dongarritas said:
I have been using Poweramp for over a year, and it works flawlessly. It doesn't require root, and you can not only use EQ, pre-amp(db +/-), bass, treble, stereox, but you can also create custom settings for earphones, bluetooth, phone speaker,etc. I highly recommend, as it is only $4.99 for lif, and you can transfer to as many devices as you wish
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I agree Power Amp works greats.
Sent from my rooted Note 3 (N900T) using XDA Premium
Power Amp best music out there in my opinion. . Well worth the price
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Pajar0913 said:
Power Amp best music app out there in my opinion. . Well worth the price
Sent from my SM-N900T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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what happens if you cant find knox on your phone?
Towle said:
This isn't a worry for us N900T users, as we have yet to receive an update. In other words, If you have the Tmobile variant, you don't have a patched bootloader (for now).
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Wait a minute, correct me if im wrong but did you just say people running m17 firmware on there note 3 don't have a patched bootloader?
So does this mean I could flash a custom recovery, rom, kernel, mods and knox won't be tripped?
(Sorry if this is a bit off topic just want some reassuring clarification )
Appreciate it, thanks in advance
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MENACE_69 said:
Wait a minute, correct me if im wrong but did you just say people running m17 firmware on there note 3 don't have a patched bootloader?
So does this mean I could flash a custom recovery, rom, kernel, mods and knox won't be tripped?
(Sorry if this is a bit off topic just want some reassuring clarification )
Appreciate it, thanks in advance
Sent from my SM-N900T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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No. You could never flash a custom recovery without tripping knox. But you can still root without tripping knox, if you're still on m17. By "patched" they meant that Samsung patched the hole that allowed people to root without tripping knox.
Towle said:
No. You could never flash a custom recovery without tripping knox. But you can still root without tripping knox, if you're still on m17. By "patched" they meant that Samsung patched the hole that allowed people to root without tripping knox.
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So does that mean then that until another exploit is found, if we want KK with root and KNOX 0x0, we wont be able to?
droidkevlar said:
So does that mean then that until another exploit is found, if we want KK with root and KNOX 0x0, we wont be able to?
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There is no method that will root KK and keep knox 0x0 on XDA as of right now.
Towle said:
There is no method that will root KK and keep knox 0x0 on XDA as of right now.
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Bummer. Have to wait a few months then before going XDA on my new N9005. Normally devices that didn't fail in the first 3 mths won't have manufacturer defects. Personal experience.
Keribang3000 said:
Bummer. Have to wait a few months then before going XDA on my new N9005. Normally devices that didn't fail in the first 3 mths won't have manufacturer defects. Personal experience.
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I'm guessing no one has successfully been able to protect root through an OTA update? I know it's been done for minor updates before, but I'd assume going to Kitkat is quite a bit more than that.
smaisonville said:
I agree Power Amp works greats.
Sent from my rooted Note 3 (N900T) using XDA Premium
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extremely agreed..poweramp the most perfect powerful audio ever..i've got the sound as i need..for metal music, never found any other music player like that..using poweramp since 3yrs ago.

Rooting, KNOX, Safestrap, Kingo, and RLDV

So i've been doing some research and RLDV clearly can achieve root without tripping the flag. But it seems too messy for me and I really dont want to be assed to download so many things. I hear about Kingo and was curious if this was useable to achieve root as well and not trip the knox flag?
Furthermore, I read somewhere that it's actually possible to flash SafeStrap and not trip knox flag? anybody have more information on this?
I just used Kingo, one program to download, it probably downloads extra files automatically (it's multi device) and I have root, pretty much painless. I'm assuming Knox flag is not tripped, but I'm too lazy to look for info how to check, since it would be too late now to do anything anyhow. Surprisingly it did not work with my older back up phone GS3, updated to 4.3, Knox included. Kingo will also unroot your phone as well with one click. Can't help with Safestrap, as I just wanted to remove region lock and kill some bloatware.
kingo will NOT trip Knox. and it's painless to do. download app on the pc, connect your device, click a couple times, instant root. nothing else changes
From my understanding it is not the root that trips knox counter it is when you put a custom recovery on
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keithrich1990 said:
From my understanding it is not the root that trips knox counter it is when you put a custom recovery on
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some rooting methods will trip Knox. for example Chainfire's method will trip Knox. Kingo wont
thanks guys. Would anybody know about Safestrap by chance? I can't locate the thread I once saw regarding it
This was a thread on the Kingo method on I believe the Note 3 general board that got closed by the mods because they wanted to look into the software more.
Naturesretard said:
thanks guys. Would anybody know about Safestrap by chance? I can't locate the thread I once saw regarding it
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Go check the AT&T note 3 forum for info on safe strap
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Disabling Apps..

Does anyone have a recommendation list of which apps are safe to disable please?.
rirawin said:
Does anyone have a recommendation list of which apps are safe to disable please?.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514703
I know it says for galaxy s4 but the apk's are the same.
blimey so much bloatware.
I wish I could root it, but sounds difficult.
rirawin said:
blimey so much bloatware.
I wish I could root it, but sounds difficult.
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Root is easy so long as you don't mind breaking the warranty.
Quick & easy, for the P600 model:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
22sl22 said:
Root is easy so long as you don't mind breaking the warranty.
Quick & easy, for the P600 model:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
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Thank you, however, I have knox installed.
Would I be able to go back to official firmware and unroot?.
Plus how do Samsung know you rooted your tablet?.
rirawin said:
Thank you, however, I have knox installed.
Would I be able to go back to official firmware and unroot?.
Plus how do Samsung know you rooted your tablet?.
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There is a knox counter which, when stock is 0X0. When rooted, the counter is tripped and goes to 0X1. There is no way to undo this and samsung will know.
You can always go back to stock by flashing stock firmware at anytime
22sl22 said:
There is a knox counter which, when stock is 0X0. When rooted, the counter is tripped and goes to 0X1. There is no way to undo this and samsung will know.
You can always go back to stock by flashing stock firmware at anytime
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Ah a fellow Uker.
I be tempted to root only so I can have apps like Sketchbook in window mode, however, since I just brought it I probably not bother yet.

[Q] Should I purchase the Wifi Note 10.1?

I'm coming from a Nexus 10 which is dying soon (bad motherboard) and was looking at getting a Wifi 32gb Note 10.1. But I have a few questions for the seasoned pros here :cyclops:
How smoothly does the Note 10.1 run on the latest firmware? (I'm assuming Kitkat)
If the stock firmware isn't silky smooth, is there anything I can do to fix it?
Are all the HMP problems with the Exynos 5420 fixed yet?
Any way to root the tablet without voiding warranty?
loooller said:
How smoothly does the Note 10.1 run on the latest firmware? (I'm assuming Kitkat)
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smooth. have noticed no hangups or stutters or anything like that — i gotta say that TouchWiz in KK has been much less crappy than i thought it would be. YMMV depending on your apps. that said, i'm coming from an Asus TF700, which was a complete POS, and the Note 10.1 (2014) has been a dream in comparison.
loooller said:
If the stock firmware isn't silky smooth, is there anything I can do to fix it?
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install Apex (what i did) or Nova as your launcher. and/or root and freeze apps via Titanium.
loooller said:
Are all the HMP problems with the Exynos 5420 fixed yet?
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they weren't problems so much as frustrations that Samsung decided in its wisdom not to enable it for this tablet. it runs fine out of the box with KK without HMP.
Oh and will rooting void the warranty?
Yes. Rooting will cause the KNOX bit to change. KNOX bit is detecting any non KNOX kernels. And once you do that, it fires.
But we are still not sure whether it will cause warranty issues. IMHO It's just a safe assumption right now. I am happy without rooting my device.
loooller said:
Oh and will rooting void the warranty?
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No you will NOT trip Knox if you Root,,I'm rooted on my Note 3 and Tab and counter is 0×0
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
No you will NOT trip Knox if you Root,,I'm rooted on my Note 3 and Tab and counter is 0×0
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can you please share the method of rooting our note 10.12014 edition without trippin knox?
For the Sanpdragon variant SM-P605 there is a method called de la vega.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2501700
Reportedly they have been able to do it without tripping the KNOX bit. The method was ported from Note 3 to Note 10.1-14 (605).
But for Exynos variant i.e. WiFi version P600. The method is Chain Fire's AutoRoot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
P.S. This will TRIP the KNOX bit.
STELIOSFAN said:
can you please share the method of rooting our note 10.12014 edition without trippin knox?
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Kingo Root..very easy and works!!
Sent from my SM-P600 using XDA Premium HD app
GalaxyNotesTx said:
Kingo Root..very easy and works!!
Sent from my SM-P600 using XDA Premium HD app
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kingo seems indeed very easy. Will it work on MJ9 build without trippin knox? (SM-P605)
I'm asking beacause I was reading that not all fw support it without knox trippin....
thanx
GalaxyNotesTx said:
Kingo Root..very easy and works!!
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Are you saying Kingo Root doesn't trip the Knox fuse? I have been looking hard for a way of doing this and so far seen absolutely nothing, here or anywhere else, to suggest that this is possible. This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538345 suggests it doesn't even work much less do so without blowing the fuse.
Please elaborate.
lotus49 said:
Are you saying Kingo Root doesn't trip the Knox fuse? I have been looking hard for a way of doing this and so far seen absolutely nothing, here or anywhere else, to suggest that this is possible. This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538345 suggests it doesn't even work much less do so without blowing the fuse.
Please elaborate.
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Hi yes, I have rooted both my devices and can go into download mode and counter says Ox0 ,,the boot loader is locked,,so i am still on stock ROM, I don't have Safe strap on either,,,I really have no need for flashing other Roms since I get 3-4 days of battery out of my Note 3. I believe if you "flash" another ROM its possible it might a e fuse ,,..I could be wrong ..
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
Hi yes, I have rooted both my devices and can go into download mode and counter says Ox0 ,,the boot loader is locked,,so i am still on stock ROM, I don't have Safe strap on either,,,I really have no need for flashing other Roms since I get 3-4 days of battery out of my Note 3. I believe if you "flash" another ROM its possible it might a e fuse ,,..I could be wrong ..
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I assumed you have the P600 wifi based on your signature. What KK rom build version you were using when you rooted your device? With the D2(latest) Kingo not even work!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53135814 .At this time, there is no way to root the p600 without triping the knox counter.
buhohitr said:
Kingo not even work!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53135814 .At this time, there is no way to root the p600 without triping the knox counter.
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This was exactly my understanding as well. I'd love to be able to root mine without blowing the fuse and I don't care about installing a different ROM, I just want root access.
There must be some misunderstanding here because this is literally the only reference I have found on the web in six months of looking, to being able to root a P600 without blowing the fulse.
lotus49 said:
This was exactly my understanding as well. I'd love to be able to root mine without blowing the fuse and I don't care about installing a different ROM, I just want root access.
There must be some misunderstanding here because this is literally the only reference I have found on the web in six months of looking, to being able to root a P600 without blowing the fulse.
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If you read GalaxyNotesTx comment, he mentioned Note 3 instead of Note 10.1...He just confused between his devices! Again, currently no way to root without trip the knox counter.
buhohitr said:
If you read GalaxyNotesTx comment, he mentioned Note 3 instead of Note 10.1...He just confused between his devices! Again, currently no way to root without trip the knox counter.
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You are quite right. That is disappointing but not surprising.
Kingo Root tries to root my 4.3 Note10 but fails.
I had to CF root thru Odin and knox is 0x1.
Kingo Root did root my 4.4 Note3 but knox is 0x1.

4.4.4 Released for T-Mobile S4

Hey mates
I want to tell you, that a couple of minutes ago the latest 4.4.4 rom was released by samsung in the USA. So you can get the latest android now! I have a Link for you: http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SGH-M919
Wish you a good flashing
Rootable with towelroot?
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Frankenscript said:
Rootable with towelroot?
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Don't think so, but cf-auto root should work
serio22 said:
Don't think so, but cf-auto root should work
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4.4.4 is built for security, means towelroot don't work. (cause apps can integreat towelroot in their programs and than collect all userdata and send to a server or something) Just the negative side of towelroot
Tkkg1994 said:
4.4.4 is built for security, means towelroot don't work. (cause apps can integreat towelroot in their programs and than collect all userdata and send to a server or something) Just the negative side of towelroot
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Does rooting trip Knox?
Enathe said:
Does rooting trip Knox?
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With towelroot not. With all other ways yes...
Enathe said:
Does rooting trip Knox?
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Rooting doesn't trip Knox. Flashing a custom recovery or kernel will put the counter at 0x1.
I you guys need helping flashing and rooting the new firmware or just the radio, and/or you guys are coming from NB4 ... check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...e-via-odin-t2880284/post55516071#post55516071

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