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[Q] Root Note 3 without tripping KNOX counter?

So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!

If you are talking about the DeLaVega method, yes that will root without tripping Knox. To flash the volume mod though, you need a custom recovery like TWRP. Flashing TWRP will trip the Knox counter

Also keep in mind according to this Root De La Vega thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
Samsung has caught on and has started patching bootloaders, you can still root, but you will trip KNOX.
If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!
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So confirm your firmware version before proceeding.

Dreamgun said:
Also keep in mind according to this Root De La Vega thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
So confirm your firmware version before proceeding.
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This isn't a worry for us N900T users, as we have yet to receive an update. In other words, If you have the Tmobile variant, you don't have a patched bootloader (for now).
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DataHawg said:
If you are talking about the DeLaVega method, yes, that will root without tripping Knox. To flash the volume mod though, you need a custom recovery like TWRP. Flashing TWRP will trip the Knox counter
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Not true, you can modify the audio on the system with file explorer root or download app

mrej201 said:
Not true, you can modify the audio on the system with file explorer root or download app
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I assumed he meant flashing Jovy23's volume mod which is a flashable zip file. It's a waste of everyone's time to read your post unless you post info so the OP can do what you suggest and solve his low volume problem without root.

Is there other method for MJ7 device to root without tripping knox?

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XX_Fallen_XX said:
So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
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please email me the link to [email protected]. cheers

XX_Fallen_XX said:
So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
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I have been using Poweramp for over a year, and it works flawlessly. It doesn't require root, and you can not only use EQ, pre-amp(db +/-), bass, treble, stereox, but you can also create custom settings for earphones, bluetooth, phone speaker,etc. I highly recommend, as it is only $4.99 for lif, and you can transfer to as many devices as you wish

dongarritas said:
I have been using Poweramp for over a year, and it works flawlessly. It doesn't require root, and you can not only use EQ, pre-amp(db +/-), bass, treble, stereox, but you can also create custom settings for earphones, bluetooth, phone speaker,etc. I highly recommend, as it is only $4.99 for lif, and you can transfer to as many devices as you wish
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I agree Power Amp works greats.
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Power Amp best music out there in my opinion. . Well worth the price
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Pajar0913 said:
Power Amp best music app out there in my opinion. . Well worth the price
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what happens if you cant find knox on your phone?

Towle said:
This isn't a worry for us N900T users, as we have yet to receive an update. In other words, If you have the Tmobile variant, you don't have a patched bootloader (for now).
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Wait a minute, correct me if im wrong but did you just say people running m17 firmware on there note 3 don't have a patched bootloader?
So does this mean I could flash a custom recovery, rom, kernel, mods and knox won't be tripped?
(Sorry if this is a bit off topic just want some reassuring clarification )
Appreciate it, thanks in advance
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MENACE_69 said:
Wait a minute, correct me if im wrong but did you just say people running m17 firmware on there note 3 don't have a patched bootloader?
So does this mean I could flash a custom recovery, rom, kernel, mods and knox won't be tripped?
(Sorry if this is a bit off topic just want some reassuring clarification )
Appreciate it, thanks in advance
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No. You could never flash a custom recovery without tripping knox. But you can still root without tripping knox, if you're still on m17. By "patched" they meant that Samsung patched the hole that allowed people to root without tripping knox.

Towle said:
No. You could never flash a custom recovery without tripping knox. But you can still root without tripping knox, if you're still on m17. By "patched" they meant that Samsung patched the hole that allowed people to root without tripping knox.
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So does that mean then that until another exploit is found, if we want KK with root and KNOX 0x0, we wont be able to?

droidkevlar said:
So does that mean then that until another exploit is found, if we want KK with root and KNOX 0x0, we wont be able to?
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There is no method that will root KK and keep knox 0x0 on XDA as of right now.

Towle said:
There is no method that will root KK and keep knox 0x0 on XDA as of right now.
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Bummer. Have to wait a few months then before going XDA on my new N9005. Normally devices that didn't fail in the first 3 mths won't have manufacturer defects. Personal experience.

Keribang3000 said:
Bummer. Have to wait a few months then before going XDA on my new N9005. Normally devices that didn't fail in the first 3 mths won't have manufacturer defects. Personal experience.
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I'm guessing no one has successfully been able to protect root through an OTA update? I know it's been done for minor updates before, but I'd assume going to Kitkat is quite a bit more than that.

smaisonville said:
I agree Power Amp works greats.
Sent from my rooted Note 3 (N900T) using XDA Premium
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extremely agreed..poweramp the most perfect powerful audio ever..i've got the sound as i need..for metal music, never found any other music player like that..using poweramp since 3yrs ago.

Rooting, KNOX, Safestrap, Kingo, and RLDV

So i've been doing some research and RLDV clearly can achieve root without tripping the flag. But it seems too messy for me and I really dont want to be assed to download so many things. I hear about Kingo and was curious if this was useable to achieve root as well and not trip the knox flag?
Furthermore, I read somewhere that it's actually possible to flash SafeStrap and not trip knox flag? anybody have more information on this?

I just used Kingo, one program to download, it probably downloads extra files automatically (it's multi device) and I have root, pretty much painless. I'm assuming Knox flag is not tripped, but I'm too lazy to look for info how to check, since it would be too late now to do anything anyhow. Surprisingly it did not work with my older back up phone GS3, updated to 4.3, Knox included. Kingo will also unroot your phone as well with one click. Can't help with Safestrap, as I just wanted to remove region lock and kill some bloatware.

kingo will NOT trip Knox. and it's painless to do. download app on the pc, connect your device, click a couple times, instant root. nothing else changes

From my understanding it is not the root that trips knox counter it is when you put a custom recovery on
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keithrich1990 said:
From my understanding it is not the root that trips knox counter it is when you put a custom recovery on
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some rooting methods will trip Knox. for example Chainfire's method will trip Knox. Kingo wont

thanks guys. Would anybody know about Safestrap by chance? I can't locate the thread I once saw regarding it

This was a thread on the Kingo method on I believe the Note 3 general board that got closed by the mods because they wanted to look into the software more.

Naturesretard said:
thanks guys. Would anybody know about Safestrap by chance? I can't locate the thread I once saw regarding it
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Go check the AT&T note 3 forum for info on safe strap
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Rooted stock rom?

I've been trying to find a stock rooted rom that I can use so I won't trip Knox. Does one exist? I don't care about fancy stuff, the stock rom works for what I do, I just want to use my titanium to freeze a few apps and run my hot spot app to get around the tmo tether cap.
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How about doing the "Root de la Vega" it doesn't trip Knox. At least that's what I saw when I first wanted to root. I on the other hand just rooted the other way and tripped Knox I really didn't care lol. But look it up to see if it will work for you.

nexx2014 said:
How about doing the "Root de la Vega" it doesn't trip Knox. At least that's what I saw when I first wanted to root. I on the other hand just rooted the other way and tripped Knox I really didn't care lol. But look it up to see if it will work for you.
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Not entirely true, it doesnt trip it if your still on 4.3. If your on 4.4.2 there isnt any way of not tripping KNOX when rooting.
I know in my Note 2/S4 days mrRobinson used to make prerooted stock roms. Not sure if its even possible any more.

stevessvt said:
Not entirely true, it doesnt trip it if your still on 4.3. If your on 4.4.2 there isnt any way of not tripping KNOX when rooting.
I know in my Note 2/S4 days mrRobinson used to make prerooted stock roms. Not sure if its even possible any more.
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Oh okay. Well that's good to know, since I haven't looked into rooting since way back when I did it. But even then flashing a ROM trips it anyways also.

I went and got mobile Odin pro as it said it can root the rom while it's being flashed. And than read that the phone has to be rooted to install it. Thanks for the replies. If I can't find something in the next 2 weeks I'll start searching custom roms for something stockish.
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[Q] Root for stock 4.4.2 N2 without tripping Knox counter?

Ok, so I was rooted all the way back in Nov 2012 when I got my N2, and have been running mostly AOSP rooms ever since. Last one I had was Liquid Smooth, a 4.4.4 rom, which I was using 3 days ago.
BUT ...
I wanted tap and pay available in Google Wallet and for the life of me, I don't know how to enable it in an AOSP rom. So I went back to stock unrooted, and OTA'd my way up to AT&T stock 4.4.2 which they put out a couple weeks ago. Now Google Wallet tap and pay is up and running nicely.
BUT...
I hate being unrooted. So I want to root again, but now I have Knox, and I want to root without tripping the Knox counter. Trouble is, all the root guides I know about (including the video right here on xda), are two years old, before they had Knox, and so they don't include any steps that I know of to disable the counter.
So, how do I root my 4.4.2 At&t N2 without tripping Knox?
(I'm super bummed nobody has enabled Tap and Pay in a 4.4 AOSP rom).
-Peter

pcrussell50 said:
Ok, so I was rooted all the way back in Nov 2012 when I got my N2, and have been running mostly AOSP rooms ever since. Last one I had was Liquid Smooth, a 4.4.4 rom, which I was using 3 days ago.
BUT ...
I wanted tap and pay available in Google Wallet and for the life of me, I don't know how to enable it in an AOSP rom. So I went back to stock unrooted, and OTA'd my way up to AT&T stock 4.4.2 which they put out a couple weeks ago. Now Google Wallet tap and pay is up and running nicely.
BUT...
I hate being unrooted. So I want to root again, but now I have Knox, and I want to root without tripping the Knox counter. Trouble is, all the root guides I know about (including the video right here on xda), are two years old, before they had Knox, and so they don't include any steps that I know of to disable the counter.
So, how do I root my 4.4.2 At&t N2 without tripping Knox?
(I'm super bummed nobody has enabled Tap and Pay in a 4.4 AOSP rom).
-Peter
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If you got your phone way back when then tripping Knox shouldn't matter as Knox only voids the warranty which would have ended November 2013 assuming you got it November 2012
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Eternalty said:
If you got your phone way back when then tripping Knox shouldn't matter as Knox only voids the warranty which would have ended November 2013 assuming you got it November 2012
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understood. i mostly wanted to know because of my "hacker's heart". IOW, it's more fun/satisfying for me if i can do it without tripping the knox counter.
-peter

pcrussell50 said:
understood. i mostly wanted to know because of my "hacker's heart". IOW, it's more fun/satisfying for me if i can do it without tripping the knox counter.
-peter
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I think as long as you don't do anything to the recovery i think you can root without tripping knox maybe look into it
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Heres this look though this and see what everyone says
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644
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Are you saying maybe root without a custom recovery (cwm or twrp)?
Interesting idea. Cant say ive ever heard of a root that does not automatically install a custom recovery. Have yiu?
-Peter

pcrussell50 said:
Are you saying maybe root without a custom recovery (cwm or twrp)?
Interesting idea. Cant say ive ever heard of a root that does not automatically install a custom recovery. Have yiu?
-Peter
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Certainly possible to root without installing recovery or changing any partitions. For instance, on the Galaxy S II, where I'm familiar with things, we use Framaroot with the Aragorn exploit as the rooting method of choice. It installs only Superuser and the SU binary. The Note II is in the list of exynos devices that it will work with, and the exploit would be one of Sam, Frodo, Legolas or Aragorn. Hope this is useful to you.
I just purchased a used Note II for my wife, so I need to be doing some reading to get up to speed on this device. I honestly have no idea yet if rooting would cause you any problems with the knox counter, assuming you are even vunerable to that. So YMMV.

Theres an apk you can get that maybe roots your phone like towelroot.com idk if that will work for the note 2 or not tho
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creepyncrawly said:
Certainly possible to root without installing recovery or changing any partitions. For instance, on the Galaxy S II, where I'm familiar with things, we use Framaroot with the Aragorn exploit as the rooting method of choice. It installs only Superuser and the SU binary. The Note II is in the list of exynos devices that it will work with, and the exploit would be one of Sam, Frodo, Legolas or Aragorn. Hope this is useful to you.
I just purchased a used Note II for my wife, so I need to be doing some reading to get up to speed on this device. I honestly have no idea yet if rooting would cause you any problems with the knox counter, assuming you are even vunerable to that. So YMMV.
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I cannot believe it. Creepy! Totally missed all your helpful comments to others in the S2 forums. Glad to have you here.
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Root without knox trip?

I've been searching and reading a whole bunch on XDA and the internet but I can't seem to find a direct answer to my question. Can the exynos 960F/D be rooted without having to install recovery and tripping Knox?

highaltitude said:
I've been searching and reading a whole bunch on XDA and the internet but I can't seem to find a direct answer to my question. Can the exynos 960F/D be rooted without having to install recovery and tripping Knox?
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No, it isn't possible. Knox will be tripped when you install a custom recovery which you have to do in order to root your phone. It hasn't been possible to modify a Samsung phone without tripping Knox for the last couple of years.

OK thanks,because my S8 Snapdragon is rooted without tripping Knox. Just wasn't sure if the exynos could use the engineering kernel too.

highaltitude said:
OK thanks,because my S8 Snapdragon is rooted without tripping Knox. Just wasn't sure if the exynos could use the engineering kernel too.
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No its a completely different animal unfortunately. Would be nice though
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Is it still impossible?

kesleybenedet said:
Is it still impossible?
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Can you read?