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Yes, i know, stupid move.
Got it out right away and dried it up with paper.
When i try to turn it on it gets past the T-mobile white screen to the green windows mobile one and then the screen shuts down but the keyboard is still light-up.
Does anyone know what i should do in this case? This happened 5 minutes ago and it's still drying up. Anyone have any tips?
What are the chances that it's bricked? Should i be looking for a new cell?
Take out the batter asap and leave it out for around 3 days. Next, put the phone in some sunlight or some rice to dry the water out. After that you can try putting the battery back in and hope it's back alive.
cool thanks. I guess it was a bad idea of me taking the battery in and out and turning it on and off to see if it's still working.
I got it under my lamp right now which emits a reasonable amount of heat.
I'll leave it here and hope for the best.
Ok well i had it dry up in a bowl of rice with the lamp over it.
Everything seems to be working fine... except,
it shows as if the cellphone is plugged in and charging when it's not.
Battery went from 89% to 100% with the cell just sitting on my table...
Anyone has any hypothesis on how that might have happened?
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Ok well i had it dry up in a bowl of rice with the lamp over it.
Everything seems to be working fine... except,
it shows as if the cellphone is plugged in and charging when it's not.
Battery went from 89% to 100% with the cell just sitting on my table...
Anyone has any hypothesis on how that might have happened?
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Well electricity and water are never a good mix, i droped my first pay and go "Nokia Ringo" down a toilet "not my toilet even worse" and dried it, it was under guarantee so just phoned up Nokia didn't tell them what i had done just stated it wasn't working, sent it away and got a replacement.
I have to say I think you should have been a little more patient. I know its hard but this has happened to me twice, once with a Magician and once with an iPaq. The first time I panicked and turned the device back on to see if it was working. It spluttered to life and then died - never to work again. The second time I removed the battery, left the case open, etc for two full days and when it came back on everything was fine.
I know its so hard to leave your device off when you are panicking. But if this only happened last night you should really consider giving it at least another 24 hours. Even though it may appear to be dry now there is obviously still some small problem with power discharge - and if that problem is due to even a tiny bit of moisture near the battery it could rapidly turn from a minor glitch into a full scale breakdown.
Actually the fact I am so damn clumsy probably explains why my first post to this forum concerned backing up my phone! LOL
I hope it all works out for you.
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I know i should i have been more patient but it's just so hard...
I got a replacement for now tho, so it'll stay in there for at least another day.
Thanks for the advice guys.
okay so i was playing football and suddenly it started to rain heavily (very) but i managed to get into shade (small) which was also dripping with water so the phone was not 100% safe there either. anyways i wrapped the phone with my hands and put the phone in plastic bag. when i got home and removed the back cover of the phone it was filled with water(somewhat) . anwyays, i put the phone in a bag of rice after that for past 24 hours. should i turn it on now?
should i try to dissamble the phone to dry it. ?
my touchscreen is a bit off the case. .. its not fixed. there are some opening on sides. so as long as mother board is dry? can i still turn on the phone (just to see if the phones working)
you better take it to a service ,that's my advice
From my experience you should not charge it, turn it on try to dry it with hairdryer or something of that kind, put it in uncooked rice for a few hours and pray...
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alright so ill now keep it in rice for 2 days. should i try to turn on then? or is there still some risk?
2 days? Wow mate that's alot of time haha, I think you can
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it seems that my brother tried to turn on the phone before i put it in rice. i went to repair the phone the phone only to hear that the motherboard is shot-ed . he said he "could" make it work. so is there any possible way he could repair it . can we repair the short circuited motherboard?
I doubt motherboard can be repaired most of the time they simply change it, Even if they repair it it would cost you too much, better sell it off(if possible) n buy another one
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alrighty, i gave it to a local phone repairer and he apparently repaired the mobo. he said he changed power ic mic and network related thing and now the phone is working just fine. it costed me like 1800 rs (30 $) . i still havent paid him (hes a known person and i said ill pay him tomorrow) .
but theres something bugging me, what if the phone's motherboard wasnt damaged at all in the first place? i mean, after the rain incidient i didnt try to switch on the phone (98% sure... maybe my bro tried,...dunno. but anyways, the phones battery was dead). i immediately kept in rice for like 1 and half days. and even when giving him the phone i didnt try to turn on the phone (foolish of me) . so the question is, can he really replace (repair) those parts i mentioned? can the motherboard be really repaired after being shotted by water? or am i just being fooled ?
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alrighty, i gave it to a local phone repairer and he apparently repaired the mobo. he said he changed power ic mic and network related thing and now the phone is working just fine. it costed me like 1800 rs (30 $) . i still havent paid him (hes a known person and i said ill pay him tomorrow) .
but theres something bugging me, what if the phone's motherboard wasnt damaged at all in the first place? i mean, after the rain incidient i didnt try to switch on the phone (98% sure... maybe my bro tried,...dunno. but anyways, the phones battery was dead). i immediately kept in rice for like 1 and half days. and even when giving him the phone i didnt try to turn on the phone (foolish of me) . so the question is, can he really replace (repair) those parts i mentioned? can the motherboard be really repaired after being shotted by water? or am i just being fooled ?
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Well my opinion : repairing a mobo.....he could have asked hell of a lot more then 30,- ! Its not that much to fall over about. If he replaced it or not.
I fell over in a muddy puddle whilst camping, and my wife checked my shorts pockets before washing them under a field tap. Sadly she checked the same pocket twice, so didn't find my brand new One X
After letting the water drip out (!) I took the mini sim out, then left in it the warm, in rice, and with a couple of gel moisture absorber packets. I'd heard not to use a hairdryer as this might force water deeper in. After 4 days it turned on when I tried, but very black screen. This cleared almost completely over a few weeks, months to almost go, and now a year later down to a small brown streak
So I think that if you are sure it's completely dried out, it is ok to turn on, not if it might still be wet
Sometimes I do brilliant things, but this takes the cake. My G3 was having charging issues - wasn't charging at all. It looked like one of the connectors on the charging port was broken. So a friend tells me that his brother puts his damaged motherboards in the oven to reflow the solder. So, like a dummy I look around online amazed at all the success stories, take my phone apart, and carefully cook my motherboard for supper.
I did 385F for 8 min, waited 20+ min to cool, wrapped everything except the charge port in foil, all that. So when I put it back together....nothing. Occasionally a blank blue screen appears then goes away.
So, cam I do anything to bring back this phone that was awesome before a lost my head?
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Sometimes I do brilliant things, but this takes the cake. My G3 was having charging issues - wasn't charging at all. It looked like one of the connectors on the charging port was broken. So a friend tells me that his brother puts his damaged motherboards in the oven to reflow the solder. So, like a dummy I look around online amazed at all the success stories, take my phone apart, and carefully cook my motherboard for supper.
I did 385F for 8 min, waited 20+ min to cool, wrapped everything except the charge port in foil, all that. So when I put it back together....nothing. Occasionally a blank blue screen appears then goes away.
So, cam I do anything to bring back this phone that was awesome before a lost my head?
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and just when I think I've heard of everything...
reflowing is for, in general, gaming systems/boards which no longer use lead based soldering, and have grown older and connections may go bad/brittle.
Your G3 is way new.
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and just when I think I've heard of everything...
reflowing is for, in general, gaming systems/boards which no longer use lead based soldering, and have grown older and connections may go bad/brittle.
Your G3 is way new.
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Just when you think you saw and heard every dumb things... Wow
SENT FROM MY D852 G3 RUNNING CM12.
shahkam said:
Just when you think you saw and heard every dumb things... Wow
SENT FROM MY D852 G3 RUNNING CM12.
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shahkam,
reflow-
... "is a process in which a solder paste (a sticky mixture of powdered solder and flux) is used to temporarily attach one or several electrical components to their contact pads, after which the entire assembly is subjected to controlled heat, which melts the solder, permanently connecting the joint. Heating may be accomplished by passing the assembly through a reflow oven or under an infrared lamp or by soldering individual joints with a hot air pencil." wiki or someplace
We (military/DOD) have equip 'reflow'ed (repaired) all the time. Newer boards, including gaming consoles, which no longer use lead based solder, considerably more. Comparatively, older (lead based) boards are much more durable and the connections remain stable/intact much better/longer.
reflow.
WOW
Next time use a microwave
Well it'll make a good coaster for my coffee. Darn expensive mistake there.
Baking th MOBO
My LG G3 died last night. First I got the blue screen, then the looping startup blue screen, then... nothing could not get it to power up at all. I got on some online forums and read about baking the MOBO. Since my phone was bricked and about 18 months old, I figured, what do I have to lose? I didn't think it would work, but I was desperate. I removed the MOBO and baked it in a Pyrex dish at 360 degrees for 10 minutes. Took it our and let it cool, reassembled the phone and it has worked great ever since. It was a very counter-intuitive thing to do, but the whole reflow thing makes sense when you think about it. Still, I'm getting a new phone.
350 for 10 got my G3 going again after the blue screen. Going on a week now : ) Thanks!
Follow up... Died at 3 weeks got a v20
Baking the motherboard on the phone sounds ridiculous but it worked for me. I removed the 12 screws, pulled the board and baked it. Remember the short screw goes next to the lens. Phone is still working after 4 days but I have ordered a newer phone.
So I did not believe a second it could work, but as the blue screen of death happened to me 2 days ago... As I ordered a OnePlus3T, what did I have to loose???
So I baked !!!
And my G3 is back !
Maybe it is only about reconnecting properly the 4 connectors, maybe it's the baking... but hell, it worked !
even thinking of trying that for my sim card issues...
Hi! Um I had vertical lines on my G3 32gb and I put it in the oven for 10 minutes on maybe around 170-180 celsius or maybe a little more than that and after it cooled down I put it back together and it won't power on or charge...it's just black...soooo did I completely kill it or is it fixable...the CPU and memory is getting hot when plugging the phone into the wall socket...Thank You!
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Hi! Um I had vertical lines on my G3 32gb and I put it in the oven for 10 minutes on maybe around 170-180 celsius or maybe a little more than that and after it cooled down I put it back together and it won't power on or charge...it's just black...soooo did I completely kill it or is it fixable...the CPU and memory is getting hot when plugging the phone into the wall socket...Thank You!
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You most probably totally melted and killed it.
You should never put a phone/motherboard in an oven.
There was a thread about this here just a few days ago...
From the threads I have read sometimes it works, sometimes you kill it. But from pretty much what everyone has said that has done it, it is a temporary fix. I bought a brand new unlocked D851 motherboard on aliexpress and replaced mine. It cost me $95.00 but to me it was worth it to basically get a new phone. I figure the first board lasted me over 2 years and I paid over $700 for the phone. $95.00 more to last me 2 years or until I decide to get a new phone seemed worth it to me.
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Sometimes I do brilliant things, but this takes the cake. My G3 was having charging issues - wasn't charging at all. It looked like one of the connectors on the charging port was broken. So a friend tells me that his brother puts his damaged motherboards in the oven to reflow the solder. So, like a dummy I look around online amazed at all the success stories, take my phone apart, and carefully cook my motherboard for supper.
I did 385F for 8 min, waited 20+ min to cool, wrapped everything except the charge port in foil, all that. So when I put it back together....nothing. Occasionally a blank blue screen appears then goes away.
So, cam I do anything to bring back this phone that was awesome before a lost my head?
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It worked for my G2 D802. I was totally surprised...
The problem is that during manipulation I managed to dislocate a tiny Smd capacitor C5004. Does anyone know how to solder it back? It's about half mm width... )
It works- 360 degrees for 10 mins, placed on tin foil on baking sheet, and then let it cool on top of stove for 35 minutes
I backed,
think my toaster wasnt very hiqh quality - might have used incorrect power
anyway, motherboard is dead - make sure your oven temp control is presice! do not go above 160C
Now I am going to bake the hell out of my dead note 4! Only if I get oven somewhere.
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This is a good thread to stop by when you need a good laugh. If you read it on the internet, it must be true! :laugh:
carlosgap5 said:
even thinking of trying that for my sim card issues...
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it's been a while since you have posted your comment, but did you try to reflow your phone? mine has a problem with the SIM card and i tried every other solution except for this.
not sure if i should try this and risk damaging a phone that could otherwise be used for multimedia purposes.
I'm at a loss as to what's going on. A few months ago I was changing up my ROMs and went to charge my phone and left the room. When I came back I was smelling that dreaded burning circuit board type of smell. Now none of my stock USB cords work with my stock charger. In fact I have 50 or so USB's and the only one that will still work is an old one from my Samsung device.
Just today I got a quick charge 2.0 and plugged it in and to my surprise it worked! Then about 30 minutes later noticed it was not charging. Hold the phone up to my nose and sure enough I smell a slight burning smell again. Is my device no longer going to be able to charge normally? I can't think of anything else to do. Could it be kernel related? Any help or troubleshooting ideas would be wonderful. Thank you so much guys!
Seems like that is a problem with your phone components not with software.Tell me about your battery life.If you connect your phone to a PC did your phone charge?Did you tried changing your rom with the original one?
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Seems like that is a problem with your phone components not with software.Tell me about your battery life.If you connect your phone to a PC did your phone charge?Did you tried changing your rom with the original one?
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Thanks for the reply. PC only would work if the cord being used was one of the 1 or 2 that actually work. I did have a little increased battery drain that seems to be decreasing my battery about 30% or so faster than before. I was going to investigate further, but it wasnt at an alarming rate as of yet. I honestly chalked that up to the ROM. I have Multiboot installed and CM6 is the same...100% hardware issue at this point...just not sure if the root of it started from the kernel or not.
I do have an update though...so it seems the part that burned last night was the final straw and now even the 1 charger that worked won't do anything...seems like I'm dead. Took it into Sprint (I have insurance) and they are going to replace it. Sadly looks like it won't be here until Tuesday. I tweeted Sprint about the issue and they'll be calling me shortly. If my insurance/warranty covers my issue and it's believed to be a defective phone I do not understand why I should be without a phone for 6 days. At the very least give me a loaner...but even that doesn't seem to be the best solution for an issue such as this. Good news is my phone won't take a charge so there's no need for me to try and make sure they can't tell I'm rooted.
Sprint used to be really good about customer service w/ having phones overnighted to your house or in store exchange. Those are distant memories now though.
Ig that helps you.My phone is in the repair store too and a guy from HTC told me that the repair for my phone will last for 40 working days ).So...6 days it's a WONDERFUL period.I am not so lucky as you.
P.S.They just have to change my camera module.
Basically what happened, was on Friday, my phone got stuck in a boot loop. It would get to the "Optimizing Apps" screen and shut off again. Other people may just get to the Verizon screen, or even just the LG screen. I looked it up and found that it was a major issue affecting many people, so I just filed for a warranty and received my new phone today. Well, on Saturday night LinusTechTips, a popular tech YouTube channel(You should really check them out, they are great), released a video on how they fixed a dead Graphics Card and PCI-E SSD by heating them up past the melting point of solder and then testing them. For them, it only worked on the GPU. As I was packing up my seemingly dead phone to ship back to LG TODAY, i decided to give it one more shot. I disassembled the device to the point where I could take out the logic board. I took the logic board and wrapped it in one layer of parchment paper and two layers of tinfoil, shiny side facing in(FYI tinfoil has two sides, shiny and matte). I then placed this package into a barbecue. I turned on the left and middle burners and left the package with my logic board inside on the right side to the grill so it wasn't receiving direct heat. After 10 minutes, I took it out, re-assembled my phone and it booted. I was able to get all of my pictures off of it. This has only been confirmed to work on my phone, but seeing as this SAME issue is affecting thousands of people, It's definitely worth a shot. If you are going to use an oven, PLEASE, make sure it's above 385 degrees Fahrenheit and that you don't plan on using that oven for food ever again, this may release some toxic chemicals etc. I plan on using my grill again, so I just made sure to leave the grill open for 24 hours and I'm going to clean it before I use it next. If you have any questions let me know!
P.S. My LG G4 was the Verizon model.
I highly recommend doing this ONLY if you have no other option. Remember that heating a logic board to high temperatures can release toxic fumes. Don't use an oven you use for food preparation! Toxic fumes can leave residue in the oven and will be re-released upon reheating over many cycles!
Assuming LG's press release regarding the issue is correct and it is really a loose contact, this "fix" could actually work. Of course, only if the loose connection is a soldered connection. Though, it's controversial. You have to remember that the melting point for SMD solder is around ~350°C, or 662°F. So 358°F, or 181°C, is not nearly enough to actually re-solder a loose connection. My guess is that the loose solder point is only expanding due to the heat. There is no real reconnect. It might only be a matter of time until it also breaks. If you could locate the actual loose connection you could really re-solder it and have it fixed permanently.
I've done this on many many devices, including graphics cards, smartphone logic boards, PC mainboards etc. It only works if a soldered connection has a crack small enough that heat expansion is enough to gain reconnection. If there is a loose contact on the PCB or the "crack" in the solder is too big, it does not work. Also, if you really have a dead chip, this trick also won't (always) work.
I read a similar story on reddit. The guy put his main board in the oven, reassembled it, and the phone started working. The last update I read was 3 days later, still working.
I fixed mine temporarily by heating up the emmc chip using solder hot air gun. It seems to be just the emmc chips connection.
Failed again after a fortnight when the phone got too hot. The connection seems to break when the g4 gets hot.
One option to try is to boot the phone inside a freezer. I found that worked too.
Pretty poor quality control on lg's part.
I'm going to try again and see if I can fix permanently.
Worked for me too
I have a LG G4 H815 with serial number starting with 507. It died yesterday night. The bootloop escalated quickly to full death. Even the freezer trick did not work.
I followed the OP instructions. I heated up the grill to ~250 degrees Celsius and cooked the motherboard for 10 minutes.
Magically the phone has been working for a couple of hours since and I have been able to backup files to the external SC card.
I wonder how much more will it work.
Thank you for help OP!!!
Word of advice to other LG G4 users. Backup your phone regularly. Use an external SD card. Set the camera to save images and videos to the SD card. At least at doom day you will have them saved.
Cheers
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I'm going to try again and see if I can fix permanently.
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any more info on this? Looks like my phone bit it the other day, no boot...just dead...
I'm going to take her apart to see if I can find a bad solder, luckily I still had my G2 lying around.
NFN, I sent mine back to LG US in Texas for a full warranty repair. 10 days RT, no cost at all, shipping included.
No unfortunately. I managed to overcook it and it stopped booting altogether
Do you have the address and info Re your communication w/ lg
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NFN, I sent mine back to LG US in Texas for a full warranty repair. 10 days RT, no cost at all, shipping included.
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Do you have the address and info Re your communication w/ lg, I'd like to send mine back for repair due to this same issue.
http://www.lg.com/us/support/repair-service/schedule-repair-us
they did a **** job. touch screen peeling and failing. Phone slowing down again after about 6mos. Looking for a new phone, but the choices are so limited.
My phone is 2 years 4 months old....never bootlooped
Feel bad for u guys
deltadiesel said:
My phone is 2 years 4 months old....never bootlooped
Feel bad for u guys
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Mine made it just about the same but died from other causes.
deltadiesel said:
My phone is 2 years 4 months old....never bootlooped
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What is the beginning of your phone's serial number?
Hi bro kindly tell is it worth to install custom rom kernal with root to prevent the cpu to clock high speed so it will not go into bootloop? My is also 2 years old thanks
250 degrees F for 6 minutes and brought the phone back to life. We'll see how long it lasts.
Actually it worked on BOTH G4s I have. I first just went dead and I bought a used one for $100 on eBay and it worked fine until the bootloop showed up.