The odds of rooting OP5T - OnePlus 5T Questions & Answers

People, plz don't be mad at me.
I was a user of s7 edge, and did't root or install any mods in it to not lose Nox and the garantee.
Before s7 I had an Opo and bricked it installing to many roms.
So I lived 2yrs without following root/mod/rom world.
But I saw some news talking about some apps, like netflix, limiting access from users with rooted phones.
So, finally, my question is:
What apps are limiting access/functionality in rooted phones?
What would I lose if a root mine?

Probably payment platform apps dont work on root due to security issues. But due to systemless magisk root now you can hide root status using Magisk hide which enables us to use apps that dont work with root also.
About samsung knox is such a security measure designed by them like once you root your phone. The knox status changes to O x 3 or something which means modified status.
Than after that whether you come to stock unroot your phone do whatever you want you cant change the knox status. Only option some phones had is the kernal knox status being modified to fool it.
Apps like android pay samsung pay wont work because of that.
I have never used such payment app like samsung pay and all thats y i didnt had any problems with root.

Yash93 said:
Probably payment platform apps dont work on root due to security issues. But due to systemless magisk root now you can hide root status using Magisk hide which enables us to use apps that dont work with root also.
About samsung knox is such a security measure designed by them like once you root your phone. The knox status changes to O x 3 or something which means modified status.
Than after that whether you come to stock unroot your phone do whatever you want you cant change the knox status. Only option some phones had is the kernal knox status being modified to fool it.
Apps like android pay samsung pay wont work because of that.
I have never used such payment app like samsung pay and all thats y i didnt had any problems with root.
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Thank you for your Answer.
I never have the patience to do anything with my s7e, it uses an Exynos processor, highly modified AndroidOs, and at that time (2yrs ago) I was already thinking in selling it.
I just give a Galaxy S product a try and although it's specs and high quality hardware (no one can deny it) I never liked it's usability and its edge screen.
Op5T has a worse screen (in specs) but it feels so much comfortable in my hand.
I'm really not missing my old S7e at all.

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knox counter triggered! is there a way to reset it?

After rooting my Note 7, I've noticed that my Knox counter has been triggered, normally I would mind but several apps seem to depend on it to work properly(I can't even open S Health!). Is there away to reset it yet? thanks
Nope. When you root, a physical fuse in the phone is blown, so unless you have epic soldering and mad haxorz skills then you're pretty much screwed
get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.
I am rooted and my S Health works. I believe the only thing that would be permanently disabled is Samsung Pay. Some banking apps will not run if you have root but you can always install an Xposed module called root cloak to circumvent that issue.
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S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.
thedicemaster said:
get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.
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Sadly depending on what you want not everything is available without rooting.
Unless you can tell me how to change all app dpi individually.
YouTube adblocker
Synapse
Adaway
Greenify... not as as good un rooted mode
Amplify
Smart network
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you're mentioning specific root-only apps.
obviously those won't work, but there are alternative methods with (close to) the same results.
adaway: adguard, it's better anyway(doesn't rely on a system designed for no more than 100 rules, easy to toggle on/off, supports whitelisting of apps, supports firewall functionality, and can target not just entire domains but also single lines of code)
adfree YouTube: yes this one is trickier, you'd need a 3rd party YouTube app or the website+adguard to avoid ads.
alternatively you can use "Cygery AdSkip for YouTube" to automatically skip ads after 5 seconds.
as you said, greenify works just not as effective.
similar "power saving" functions however are built in on recent android devices.
and from what I can tell every function in "smart network" except switching to 2G can be achieved without root using tasker.
synapse and per app DPI are the only things on your list that are completely impossible without root(although using game tuner's resolution settings you should be able to influence scaling in some apps)
Also if you use YouTube backgrounder, OGyoutube works great and allows background / downloading of content. I'm still looking for an ad free YouTube but this suffices in the meantime.
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krabman said:
S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.
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do you have the link for it? when I try to open it, it says the following:
"Unable to open app
Because of a new security policy introduced in version 5.0, Knox is not available on compromised devices"
I've already frozen all the knox apps I could find in TB.
strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?
shinew said:
strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?
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S Health may use Knox to protect your health data (HIPAA in the USA).
The S-health thing is new, people are circumventing it by an app that lets you access the widget and from it you can open it up or some such, don't use it so I paid little attention to the fix. Don't remember where I saw that but it's here somewhere shine, I would peruse the development threads, I'm thinking I saw it in one of them.

Advantages of Root

After I get a new unit for availing the Note 7 recall program I am planning to root. Aside from seeing the "knox 0x1 or 1x0?" what are the other disadvantages of a rooted Note 7? We'll maybe except for warranty.
My reasons to root:
XPOSED Framework :laugh:
Cheers
Uses of sixaxis controller if you got a ps3/4 unless you try to use all those other third party controller that can be use without root.
Flux "root only preview". I like this one the best so far but as it a preview still it have some quirts that dont work right.
Other Root app I guess SD Maid, Carbon, and a few others.
I'm trying to figure out what the disadvantage of root as in what app wont work if rooted even with RootCloak
well, dont forget ad blocking, I also like gmd gesture control, xposed of course, ifon, among many other apps
root is life.
masaforce said:
root is life.
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Great argument!
I still dont see what root offers nowadays. I used to root my HTC One, S2, etc etc to allow for some apps but nowadays, Android appears to have nearly all the functionality that i need without rooting.
m00moo said:
Great argument!
I still dont see what root offers nowadays. I used to root my HTC One, S2, etc etc to allow for some apps but nowadays, Android appears to have nearly all the functionality that i need without rooting.
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For me thats the opposite, ive been tweak developer on ios. I still hack games as a hobby. No root no phone for me. I come straight from sony phones so its really different and a big change but ill manage lol. If i cant have a custom recovery, xposed & root on a phone, i will just abandon it like i did with the s5.
I always rooted my devices, but now planing on not doing so I want those security patches and OTA ofc... reflashing ROMs and setting up all form the start is pain in the ass. But i will miss xposed, adaway
Root when they no longer support your device =P

Hello just got my note 7 via Verizon ROOT HELP

Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA
Vic35 said:
Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA
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Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.
Your bootloader is locked. It's impossible to root atm.
azzicles said:
Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.
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all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate
Vic35 said:
all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate
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Again, your bootloader is locked. So the simple answer is no.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 7.
in simple words, the bootloader is like the main gate to the internals of your phone, if locked, as on snpadragon based note 7, it is very, very difficult to root, the exynos note 7 are all open, there is at the moment only one method to root a snapdragon note 7, but I think it works only for AT&T
sucks and my 14 day return period is over ... now what
Now you learn the lesson... Never, ever, under any circumstance, buy a phone until you have verified it can be rooted. There had been an exploit for root with the SDs but Samsung fixed it in the replacement devices. You will hear people telling you root might still be attained and they are right but don't pin any hope on it.
Most people have been where you are and I number among them. The only thing you can do is sell the device, hope for root, learn your lesson. I'm sorry.
One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??
3 minit battery, Viper4android and titanium backup are what I'm missing. ????
Braca Ganon said:
One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??
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I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. Even on my Note 5 I saw no need to root. I was able to debloat carrier apps( Package Disabler Pro), use hotspot( FoxFi and PdaNet combo), change themes and icons( Samsung Theme Store) and much more, Plus, if you do decide to root, you can kiss Samsung or Android Pay goodbye. I also saw some had issues with the Iris Scanner after rooting as well. I personally love the fact that whatever feature I want to use on my phone I can do so with no FCs or trial and error. Custom Roms are based on the Devs likes and dislikes so what you think is a cool feature or function the Dev of whatever rom you are on may think its not and remove it. Once that happens, its more than just adding an .apk to priv-app or system apps, changing permissions and rebooting. It's more involved. This world is light years ahead of an IPhone jailbreak. No disrespect but a 70 year old woman can jailbreak an IPhone. LoL. Op read up on the benefits of root and what you think you need it for. You may be able to get the best of both worlds and still enjoy all the features and functionality the Note 7 has to offer. Samsung has done an excellent job coming into the times as far as root is concerned. They are making it so we don't have to root and can enjoy the benefits and features of these insanely expensive devices. I suggest you use the phone for a bit to its full potential and if you still think you need root then go for it but I'm almost certain you will realize you won't need it. Ultimately, its up to you.
Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting
travisw0204 said:
I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. .
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There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.
I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?
krabman said:
There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.
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I use Adguard to remove ads globally from my phone and it works better, to me anyways, than Adaway or anything equivalent but this is just my usage. Everyone's MMV. As far as using the power of root, I was one of the biggest believers in root. However, I was tired of the trial and error associated with it while running other Custom Roms( notice I keep saying I as this is just my experience). There is nothing more frustrating than going to use a feature and get a FC because either it was removed or the files associated with it were removed. Then you have to go into the archives of a stock rom and try to restore what was deleted and hope it works. At one point I just ran a fully stock rom with root and that worked for me but we both know how useless that is when you're rooted. At the end of my post I suggested to the Op, since he is new to Android, to use Android without it for a bit and see how he fares. If he still finds root is necessary than go for it. I would never tell anyone what to do with their device but you and I both know that root is becoming more of a hassle these days because of all the added security. As a newbie, this can scare the crap out of someone but ultimately it is the Op's decision.
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Vic35 said:
I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?
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I don't play Pokemon Go. I also didn't know you needed root to play that game. I thought it was merely an app.
Vic35 said:
Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting
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Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that
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Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that
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I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you
I'm
Vic35 said:
I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you
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Yeah I read up on the newest hacks... it seems there's apps that don't require jailbreak but I don't know of any Android apps.. keep searching google. Someone will come up with an android hack before long... the first big hack was an android app
They will absolutely release a hack app for Android... just keep searching google
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.
Mibuix0r said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.
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That only works on pre-recall PH1 Note 7's, you can't root the new Note 7's with PHE.

Final Thought: Should I Root S8+ SM-G955U?

I've only rooted a Samsung device since the Samsung Tab S 10.5.
Reasons I found why I would root the Samsung Galaxy S8+ SM-G955U:
- Adblocker (I don't mind blocking ads from apps/Samsung but I also don't mind them being there...)
- Removing System apps (I'd probably only remove a few that I found useless/don't mind them being there...)
- Backup/restore (I'd make a backup, but I can also do this without root I believe?)
- Using SmartThings to stream to my Vizio but having a full 65' screen with the proper aspect ratio. Yes this annoying not to see a full screen on a bigger screen that you stream to from your phone, it was new to me and I was happy with it but also hoping for a bigger screen output.
- Easy to overclock/return to normal clock for testing/emulation purposes and not for extended use.
- I don't believe I would do any button remapping on my phone, but I'd do anything that makes my phone look even better and have more effective usage.
- Background settings with color/image by root?
- Lockscreen wallpaper can be changed by root?
- I am guessing that I can turn on my flashlight with a button while the screen is off with root?
- Double tap home to instant sleep phone with root. Isn't there apps in Google Play that do things like this?
- Anything that increases sound and video/picture quality with root.
Reasons why I won't root:
- Samsung loss of apps
- Loss of software updates?
- Re-customize the internal portion of my phone . I don't have to worry about my emulator files on my SD card or my music. I also started using my phone without rooting in mind and excitedly set it up.
- I don't have warranty, I treat my phones rather well even when I rooted my Samsung Tab S 10.5, it is still rooted and solid running. For my tablet the warranty ran out. For this device, I got it refurbished with no warranty.
- UPDATE: I forgot to mention, I'd also have to deal with a fixed Netflix rather than the actual app and its updates.
Sadly I'll loose a number of things by Samsung that I read about. I'll then have to remove those apps and I have been happy with what I have. There are also plenty of risks while it's rooted + bootloader unlocked.
Wonder if my battery would drain more with root depending on all the functions I would want.
I also wonder if I would get anymore software updates.
I read about developer updates that are better and faster than what software updates release.
What do you think about whether or not I should root now? Some of the things I want to do listed above may have apps for that without root as well as I am not annoyed by ads or by extra system apps with 64GB ROM. Anyone believe that some of the things I really want to do comes with an app instead of having to root?
The most useful things would be tap a button to turn on my flashlight when the screen is off, easy to overclock and put back, SmartThings resize on 65' screen, change the customization color/images of my phone further, double tap to sleep, increase sound and video/picture quality, though I like the way my phone sounds.
G955U is a bootloader locked device. There is no way to root it. How are you saying that you can root it?
So I have SM-G955U as well, with version 1 bootloader. Can I root this?
Also I want to use the Verizon bands so is there any recommendation for what I should try to do?
thus far, i have found absolutely no clear instructions on how in the heck to do this.
there is so much noise on this forum about older variations and over seas models.
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G955U is a bootloader locked device. There is no way to root it. How are you saying that you can root it?
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there is one option to root G955U but just for android 7 only
rosel11078 said:
there is one option to root G955U but just for android 7 only
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Correct cause I believe it's the one I'm using. I was 955u and had lots of issues trying to find a proper guide that worked but it wasn't till I paid someone for the service to do It for me that I finally got root. And I think afterwards it changed my phone to g955u1. Also yes been on 7.0 since I got the phone rooted 2 years ago
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G955U is a bootloader locked device. There is no way to root it. How are you saying that you can root it?
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LOL he speaks on that which he knows nothing about
all jokes aside, I am getting tired of having to use Nougat. losing support for a lot of stuff I like. the only thing that keeps me from giving up root is Viper4Android. where else am I supposed to find a sound driver like that?

Will you root?

How many of you guys plan to root? Is it worth losing secure folder etc for easier themeing, magisk modules and better ad blocking?
I do miss swift installer even though synergy works OK
No.
Planning not to but say that every new phone lol
I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...
No
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I've been rooting all my android phones since my first one (galaxy mini) but I stopped rooting after I bought my note 9. Now I only root my backup phones.
Theres just too many good features that I'll miss if I trip my knox.
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i think the question alot should research should be:
can i actually root before buying
I keep a rooted phone for certain things.
I don't root my daily drives now though. I think I burned myself out over the years. I prefer a stable, secure phone now.
HD2, I still love you though. ?
Every new galaxy phones I got didn't last a week without being rooted. It's my first time to buy a phone on its launching period. Most probably wont get rooted in a week or two, or maybe who knows hahaha.. depends on how our great devs would work on it lol
Rooted mine. For me i want to have the freedom of root. Don't care about the apps I loose
Already Rooted My Note 10+. Dr-Ketan Guide
No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days
Nope i use Samsung pay. And dont see much of a reason to root any more
Quick answer no rooting until samsung stop updates
winol said:
No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days
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Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.
Probably later.
Because I'd like to keep the OTA updates.
liamR said:
I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...
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Hey,
I was also a little bit frustrated that Adhell3 didn't work anymore, but I found an alternative that might help you. I am currently using my Note8 with an app called CCSWE App Manager (can be found on the playstore). This app with the coupled with the CCSWE App Manager Pro License (also found on the playstore but paid) app allows to disable packages, it uses KNOX. Not sure if it supports Note10, but works perfectly on my Note8.
I don't care about loosing Knox crap. I will root on day 1 of any device I own. Systemwide add blocking being my #1 reason. Also there is nothing like Titanium backup out there. IMO stock rooted is always great.
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There is so much that works without root, if I feel the need to, then I might, but until then......:good:
dr.ketan said:
Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.
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Thank you Dr. ketan, As always you are the best! I will looking forward to your posts

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