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Moving from rooted phone to Note 7, best workarounds?

Greetings everyone, I'm looking for some advice. For the past 6 years I've had only daily driver phones that were rooted and boot unlocked. On Friday that'll change when my Note 7 arrives, it was simply too compelling a phone to pass up. BUT, the two things I'm sure I'll miss are 1) full device (and individual app) backup using TWRP + Titanium Backup, and, 2) whole device ad blocking using AdAway. Are there any truly useful apps/solutions/workarounds to accomplish those things on a stock Samsung phone?

Same here, coming from sony(2011), nexus and htc, rooting and bl unlocking has been my first interactions with my phone. But like you I won't be doing that for samsung pay.
1. Titanium backup (or similar) might have some limited functionality. I'm yet to see if I'd have any luck with adb and a computer backup.
2. So far I found Adguard to provide the closest service. But then again, it wont be the same as adaway.

I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.

Samsung browser supports adblocking https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.crystalapp.crystal maybe there is some other apps to for just browser? If u want apps to block ads you will need a better app like AdClear that is free or even get the AdGuard pay for cheap:
AdGuard works without root on both WiFi and mobile data. It's not free but if you choose to pay in Russian rubles a lifetime license costs around 4$. Works like a charm and gets regularly updates. It blocks ad's everywhere and not just in the browser. Only ad's in the YouTube app are currently not blocked but they are working on a workaround. https://m.adguard.com/en/purchase.html?currencyId=1#1/36500/MOBILE
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Zolares said:
I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.
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I was about to recommend adguard but I've never heard of adClear. It's actually much better. As for helium, I think it's pretty neat except it doesn't backup system app info.

best advice for really disabling apps (better than the disable option in settings) is package disabler pro.
Works only on samsung phones but works wonders.

Samzebian said:
best advice for really disabling apps (better than the disable option in settings) is package disabler pro.
Works only on samsung phones but works wonders.
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Cool, I'll try it. I was gonna ask about package disabler.

I bought the Note Edge a couple years back when the Note 4 came out.. coming from a T-Mobile rooted Note 3 it was rough because I bought a T-Mobile version and the guy sent me an AT&T unlocked off Ebay... so though it was on lock the TMobile the bootloader was locked and I could not root. I hated every minute with that phone so I only had it for 3 weeks. I ended up selling it taking $100 loss to read by an authentic T-Mobile version. Not until then was I happy. I just read that the LG G5 at T-Mobile is now locking their bootloaders! I wish Samsung would put some development time in and make an unlocker for those of us that want it if not I'm just going to return my phone take the $50 loss that comes with it for the restocking fee. Then by an international version which I've already seen can obtain root.
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This is really breaking my heart due to the fact that I was in an accident a few years back that left me almost paralyzed though I walk now I can barely walk no I work I can barely work I'm on full disability so to take away my one hop which is routing and playing with custom roms really really bums me out... especially since I've had every Samsung Galaxy Note ever made...plus the Tab S and Tab S2...
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We should ALL keep petitioning for TMOBILE to continue to help with an unlocking tool!
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Yeah I need an alternative to viper4android. I don't think I can go without root and will be getting the international version.
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Corbitt74 said:
Cool, I'll try it. I was gonna ask about package disabler.
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I'll try it too, thanks!

Zolares said:
I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.
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Great recommendations, thank you! I recall having tried Helium on my HTC One M8 a couple of years ago before I'd rooted it. It didn't work too well for me back then, but perhaps It's gotten better, so I'll give it another look.

ARNOB said:
Same here, coming from sony(2011), nexus and htc, rooting and bl unlocking has been my first interactions with my phone. But like you I won't be doing that for samsung pay.
1. Titanium backup (or similar) might have some limited functionality. I'm yet to see if I'd have any luck with adb and a computer backup.
2. So far I found Adguard to provide the closest service. But then again, it wont be the same as adaway.
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Hmm, I hadn't considered ADB to computer backup. Wonder if that'll actually work.

I was in another room about locked Bootloaders on this phone... technically no it has a real answer but there's a bunch of little babies and their whining about how it's like get over it move on get over it blah blah blah. But the real fact is they don't have the phone they don't have the money for the phone they don't have the intelligence to root the phone
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I'm just going to wait for ups and move on get to work ...Xda is turning into YouTube with trollers
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My main apps without root.
1. Adguard (I've found it to be the best over the other VPN Ad Blockers) Block's everything.
2. Package Disabler Pro (blocks all bloatware apps from running)
3 For backups there are few that all do the same thing like many poster have said.

sorry if i am already a little late to the party but what can't you/shouldn't you root a note 7?? i wasn't aware of that. what does it do to the phone if you do root it. i have seen a few posts of people rooting them. sorry if this has been discussed before.

probablecauzdnb said:
sorry if i am already a little late to the party but what can't you/shouldn't you root a note 7?? i wasn't aware of that. what does it do to the phone if you do root it. i have seen a few posts of people rooting them. sorry if this has been discussed before.
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For me the reason is it trips knox for which you will lose samsung pay forever.

I have to admit, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think Samsung Pay is a killer feature. If you don't mind my asking, what country are you in, and why don't cards work for you?

It would also get rid of the Secure Folder feature since that is Knox dependent too.
Although I've only gotten the Note7 for a day, that Secure Folder has already become indispensable.
Even if I haven't stopped rooting for years, I believe I would still sacrifice root any day to keep that Secure Folder feature.
Not sure if there's a root alternative to the Secure Folder's features or if it'll one day be possible, but rooting exposes too much security risks anyway. If I was rooted, I wouldn't trust the Secure Folder as much as I would have while unrooted.

Secure Folder is a bit more understandable, though I have exactly the opposite reaction to you -- I consider an unrooted phone an incredible security risk, as I have absolutely no control over its internals, and I don't trust the Secure Folder because it appears to be insecure by design (allows biometric unlock). Losing the ability to restore older versions of apps, freeze preinstalled apps, modify the hosts file (for domain blocking), or run a firewall that can't be bypassed is kind of a dealbreaker to me.
I can at least understand people who feel otherwise, though. The Samsung Pay bit was what made me stop and ask, because it's the first time I've ever seen someone who actually thought it was valuable, and I was really curious about why.

Hey!
I've been using my note 3 since it's official release and i'm wondering if you guys have a workaround of Youtube Adaway for non rooted devices !

The odds of rooting OP5T

People, plz don't be mad at me.
I was a user of s7 edge, and did't root or install any mods in it to not lose Nox and the garantee.
Before s7 I had an Opo and bricked it installing to many roms.
So I lived 2yrs without following root/mod/rom world.
But I saw some news talking about some apps, like netflix, limiting access from users with rooted phones.
So, finally, my question is:
What apps are limiting access/functionality in rooted phones?
What would I lose if a root mine?

Probably payment platform apps dont work on root due to security issues. But due to systemless magisk root now you can hide root status using Magisk hide which enables us to use apps that dont work with root also.
About samsung knox is such a security measure designed by them like once you root your phone. The knox status changes to O x 3 or something which means modified status.
Than after that whether you come to stock unroot your phone do whatever you want you cant change the knox status. Only option some phones had is the kernal knox status being modified to fool it.
Apps like android pay samsung pay wont work because of that.
I have never used such payment app like samsung pay and all thats y i didnt had any problems with root.

Yash93 said:
Probably payment platform apps dont work on root due to security issues. But due to systemless magisk root now you can hide root status using Magisk hide which enables us to use apps that dont work with root also.
About samsung knox is such a security measure designed by them like once you root your phone. The knox status changes to O x 3 or something which means modified status.
Than after that whether you come to stock unroot your phone do whatever you want you cant change the knox status. Only option some phones had is the kernal knox status being modified to fool it.
Apps like android pay samsung pay wont work because of that.
I have never used such payment app like samsung pay and all thats y i didnt had any problems with root.
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Thank you for your Answer.
I never have the patience to do anything with my s7e, it uses an Exynos processor, highly modified AndroidOs, and at that time (2yrs ago) I was already thinking in selling it.
I just give a Galaxy S product a try and although it's specs and high quality hardware (no one can deny it) I never liked it's usability and its edge screen.
Op5T has a worse screen (in specs) but it feels so much comfortable in my hand.
I'm really not missing my old S7e at all.

Do we still need root?

Guys,
I have been rooting my devices for countless years now, but Iately I found myself wondering why.
So, I decided not to root my S4. So far, so good:
- Blokada works great for ads (and until one month ago AdHell was an even better alternative)
- Tasker does its job as well using Autoinput (obviously, I had to rewrite all my tasks)
- I had given up on Xposed a long time ago, due to Safety Net violations.
In essence, I believe that stock + OTAs + Knox works well and I don't need to root.
Wha are your experiences with no-root workarounds?

Wouldn't bother tbh, S4 rom forum is dead, only been 2/3 roms made!
I use to root all the time, back since I had the first HTC desire.
As of recent i haven't and I'm not missing it, S8+, Tab S4 and Samsung A5.
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Root?
To make decent backups using TitaniumBackup.
To transfer data to/from the ext. SD card using ssh/scp/rsync.
To disable lots of unneeded/unwanted 'standard' tools.

Root makes you a owner of your gear. Without root the device can do with you whatever.
Firewall, freezing unwanted apps, fighting against Google nosy curiosity. Making sound better with magisk modules.
But Samsung is stupid with their bad strategy, they don't respect warranty if your device is rooted.
Best solution is Xiaomi or OnePlus, but they haven't tablet with such great screen like Samsung galaxy tabs S series
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Astania said:
But Samsung is stupid with their bad strategy, they don't respect warranty if your device is rooted.
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Samsung may not, but according to european legislation the vendor is responsible to provide warranty for an appropriate period of time, at least one year.

Simple answer yes root is need please also note i was well against root i was gutted that i rooted my Tab S4 LTE Model that I rushed into without the research!
But since Samsung gave us the middle finger last month by denying us the KNOX API Key for Adhell 3 root is a must if you truly want to enjoy ad free bloatware free Tab S4 experience!
ROOT ROCKS!

sciurius said:
Root?
To make decent backups using TitaniumBackup.
To transfer data to/from the ext. SD card using ssh/scp/rsync.
To disable lots of unneeded/unwanted 'standard' tools.
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Hello what does this do "ssh/scp/rsync"? Does it transfer apps to sd card?

marvi0 said:
Hello what does this do "ssh/scp/rsync"? Does it transfer apps to sd card?
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For simplicity, scp is a network file copy tool and rsync is a network file sync tool. They use ssh as a network protocol.
For details, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell

rooting is the first thing to do with each device before it connects to network and start calling home.
rooting is a must: bloatware removal, adblocking, privacy, modding, security. you can install dnscrypt, force adguard on vpn and with adaway. you can enable call recording. you can have adfree usable youtube. you can include any app in parallel apps. you can modify the extra button. you can have same gestures on every phone (xposed Edge). you can have Swiftkey improved. you can crystalize agressive apps (3C). you can run your scripts. you can backup (titaniumbackup). all those thousand of settings in hundreds of apps backed up. endless possibilities.
for me i have to have adblocking, device identifiers masking, encryption and call recording on each device before first turn on (or second, but networks off). otherwise it has to be turned off. like in case of Xiaomi where you need to wait 2 weeks to unlock - i didn't touch the new phone until it was unlocked then rooted. #principles

doggydog2 said:
rooting is the first thing to do with each device before it connects to network and start calling home.
rooting is a must: bloatware removal, adblocking, privacy, modding, security. you can install dnscrypt, force adguard on vpn and with adaway. you can enable call recording. you can have adfree usable youtube. you can include any app in parallel apps. you can modify the extra button. you can have same gestures on every phone (xposed Edge). you can have Swiftkey improved. you can crystalize agressive apps (3C). you can run your scripts. you can backup (titaniumbackup). all those thousand of settings in hundreds of apps backed up. endless possibilities.
for me i have to have adblocking, device identifiers masking, encryption and call recording on each device before first turn on (or second, but networks off). otherwise it has to be turned off. like in case of Xiaomi where you need to wait 2 weeks to unlock - i didn't touch the new phone until it was unlocked then rooted. #principles
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Hi. I haven't had an android device for many years before this tab. Before that, I had a Note 2 on which i used to root and also have different roms running frequently.
I'm also considering rooting my tab s4 for a long time now. Could you share some more detailed about customizations that are available for tab s4 if I'm not willing to go to stock android roms? I'm asking about modifications to the offcial samsung based firmware.
Thanks

mayank_nigam said:
Hi. I haven't had an android device for many years before this tab. Before that, I had a Note 2 on which i used to root and also have different roms running frequently.
I'm also considering rooting my tab s4 for a long time now. Could you share some more detailed about customizations that are available for tab s4 if I'm not willing to go to stock android roms? I'm asking about modifications to the offcial samsung based firmware.
Thanks
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Same here, staying with rooted samsung firmware to enjoy the samsung extras. I will later setup a thread with debloat and list of verified modules to install. Also with a root guide, as i couldn't find one for encryption-only people.. found 10 guides but noone is using encryption. weird!

Here

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Here
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how did you root yours? I'm having issues

OcazPrime said:
how did you root yours? I'm having issues
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like described..similarly to others, without encryption disabler.

What is the ultimate way to gain privacy on Samsung S20 Ultra (iPhone User Here)

Hello,
I have the Samsung S20 Ultra and I'm extremely impressed with it. However I'm paranoid about the integration with Google and the tele-metrics.
The phone is amazing and makes my iPhone 11 feel like 4 years old, the battery is better, the screen, it's fast - the first time I've considered switching full time.
What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
Is there a way to install xLuaPrivacy, or it root needed?
Is there a custom ROM that has privacy features?
Is there a firewall I can use to control traffic out?
I'm a little out of date with the development world as I last had a Samsung Note 4.

ProcurementCoordinatorNSA said:
Hello,
I have the Samsung S20 Ultra and I'm extremely impressed with it. However I'm paranoid about the integration with Google and the tele-metrics.
The phone is amazing and makes my iPhone 11 feel like 4 years old, the battery is better, the screen, it's fast - the first time I've considered switching full time.
What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
Is there a way to install xLuaPrivacy, or it root needed?
Is there a custom ROM that has privacy features?
Is there a firewall I can use to control traffic out?
I'm a little out of date with the development world as I last had a Samsung Note 4.
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There are private dns and VPN options built into the device (at least the unlocked ones), which you can point at any service you want, so you just need to find one that suits your specific needs or run your own at home (which you can do easily with even the cheapest Raspberry Pi and the free Pihole app). It's always best to use this method rather than local software - it's less resource intensive, doesn't require root, and gives you more assurance that things are working the way you think they are.

As above, pihole & dns.adguard.com

For maximum security, do not root the phone.
And put the apps you feel that require more security on secure folders. That's an extra layer of protection there. There is a dedicated chip for encryption and security on the s20 just for the purpose of security and privacy.
If u know what u are doing, you can even root the phone, miss out on knox and secure folders, but install other more interesting stuff like firewall to control what apps get to use internet.
For me, secure folders, vpn is good enough.
I love the extra privacy of the secure folders.. It has its own phone book, phone app.. It's like a second phone in there and not accessible from outside.
And you can hide many things in there Including apps. Just rmb to switch off notifications from the app in secure folders..
I have a wife that loves digging through my phone.. You can customize the secure folder name and icon. I even put it on my app drawer.
You can also freely move stuff in and out of secure folders.
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ProcurementCoordinatorNSA said:
I have the Samsung S20 Ultra and I'm extremely impressed with it. However I'm paranoid about the integration with Google and the tele-metrics. What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
Is there a way to install xLuaPrivacy, or it root needed?
Is there a custom ROM that has privacy features?
Is there a firewall I can use to control traffic out?
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If you want to get away from Google, then you need a Google-free phone. Something that runs LineageOS. Of course, installing LineageOS requires rooting, which also compromises security to a degree. So it is a trade-off. But if you are *really* paranoid about Google tracking you, then you need to get rid of everything Google, including Google Play Services. And the only way to do that is by using a phone without Google Play Services preinstalled.
xPrivacyLua requires Magisk, which requires unlocking the bootloader. If you have a Exynos model, then you can unlock the bootloader. If you have Snapdragon, then you can't. And any software firewall will require access to system files, which is impossible without root.
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As above, pihole & dns.adguard.com
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Agreed. I use Pi-hole at home, and dns.adguard.com as my default DNS. Both are very effective at blocking ads, but neither are comprehensive solutions for extremely privacy-focused individuals.
vash_h said:
I have a wife that loves digging through my phone. You can customize the secure folder name and icon. I even put it on my app drawer.
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This is OT, but if your wife (or anyone else) is constantly snooping your phone, then there are obviously trust issues that should be addressed.

I use adguard + nordvpn + dns to block all ads and to control the Internet filtering better.
With ADB commands you can uninstall all bloatware and unnecessary stuff or disable them with package disabler Pro.
I'm on snapdragon and waiting for root release so I can use more privacy apps with magisk/xposed.

ProcurementCoordinatorNSA said:
Hello,
What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
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Go into your Private DNS settings then go to nextdns.io to setup your free account

dv8ed said:
Go into your Private DNS settings then go to nextdns.io to setup your free account
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Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it

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Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Sorry don't know I updated my phone to ATE4 on 6/1 not sure if I started using nextdns before or after 6/1 can't remember.

*Detection* said:
Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Disable blocklists one at a time until you can check firmware again, and you'll have the answer.

sublimaze said:
Disable blocklists one at a time until you can check firmware again, and you'll have the answer.
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Yea I know that, but rather than spending all that time I wanted to know if anyone already knew

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Yea I know that, but rather than spending all that time I wanted to know if anyone already knew
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This please

*Detection* said:
Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Odd, I've been using nextdns for over a month and on 2 June I was able to download & install ATE6 (the Australian releases are always slowwwww ...).
You can look at your nextdns logging to see what's being blocked when you try an update. The results are pretty much live; I used the logging to work out what was causing an app problem and whitelisted a few sites based on the blocked results in the log.

Ccswe not working, again

Today, I found that ccswe is again not working due to knox license issues, I emailed the dev, and told me that, for whatever reason, samsung revoked his license, again… what a pity this thing is… I am confident about the dev solving this issue, meanwhile.. Samsung: ?

Yeah it's been like that for months. Very disappointing. I find that I'm forced to pay for an appblocker onna yearly basis that has no managed to be viable longer than a year. I miss the GatesJunior rooting years. His apk manager was the best.

Hopefully he's able to get his license back and get the app working. Best part about this guy is I don't have to re buy the app when it starts working again. And he does communicate. I also hope his health is good, last time he was in the hospital for a while.

Yes, the dev is really a honest guy, no need to re-buy or anything of the sort, I think he has troubles derived of how powerful his app is, hopefully he will fix this issue shortly

i also hope he manages to resolve this unfortunate issue with Samsung

Can anyone share the apk? It's been removed from the play store.
I'm so sick of Samsung's bull**** bloatware.

JoshReuben said:
Can anyone share the apk? It's been removed from the play store.
I'm so sick of Samsung's bull**** bloatware.
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Even if you had the apk it wouldn't work. Still has to verify the key and dial into Samsung. It's a lost cause for now.

as i understand that this app needs root to work - wouldn't f.e. Titanium Backup pro be an alternative ? or even remove apps via ADB ?

I've never rooted this phone and it worked like a charm. Don't think root was ever achieved for the VZW N10+

blackspy_ said:
as i understand that this app needs root to work - wouldn't f.e. Titanium Backup pro be an alternative ? or even remove apps via ADB ?
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There are two versions, the one for rooted devices does not need knox licensing, and it is free I think, the other one, which is a pay app works on non rooted devices, that is precisely why it relies on knox

winol said:
There are two versions, the one for rooted devices does not need knox licensing, and it is free I think, the other one, which is a pay app works on non rooted devices, that is precisely why it relies on knox
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oh - i never read about the possibility to really remove apps, without root. interesting. i wouldn't mind paying for this.
for me the two missing things on Samsung stock: proper backups like in titanium, including log-ins, or diskimages, as in TWRP-recovery and completely removing useless apps like FaceBook. deactivating them in Appmanager seems to be no proper solution, especially as as many of them can't be deactivated.

blackspy_ said:
oh - i never read about the possibility to really remove apps, without root. interesting. i wouldn't mind paying for this.
for me the two missing things on Samsung stock: proper backups like in titanium, including log-ins, or diskimages, as in TWRP-recovery and completely removing useless apps like FaceBook. deactivating them in Appmanager seems to be no proper solution, especially as as many of them can't be deactivated.
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Well ccswe, and for that matter, package disabler pro, do not have the ability to unistall certain system apps, they can just totally disable them, ccswe is more powerful than package disabler pro, as it is able to block things inside an app without disabling completely the app itself

winol said:
Well ccswe, and for that matter, package disabler pro, do not have the ability to unistall certain system apps, they can just totally disable them, ccswe is more powerful than package disabler pro, as it is able to block things inside an app without disabling completely the app itself
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Lots of pesky things.
PD MDM is the only reason this 10+ is usable without root.
Lol, AT&T updates/apps and bixby* get blocked first...
*Bixby Vision and Vision Framework are needed by the cam.

The fine granularity on the app is great. We can see all the servi, activities and other interesting elements of each app. I've seen something like that only with apps that have root access, like MyAndroidTools for example.
I was testing the free ccswe app when it stopped working. I'm gonna buy the paid version, the only draw back was that I saw just 10+ downloads on the store. Was wondering why ppl don't buy it. Reading here your opinions gives me more reasons to get it.

blackhawk said:
Lots of pesky things.
PD MDM is the only reason this 10+ is usable without root.
Lol, AT&T updates/apps and bixby* get blocked first...
*Bixby Vision and Vision Framework are needed by the cam.
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I've blocked them and camera works fine.

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I've blocked them and camera works fine.
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No, no it doesn't. Target tracking (yellow square) needs it, possible advanced metering functions and probably more.
Those two Bixby apps only run when the cam needs them.

It does not appear to me that he lost his Knox license, I read sonewhere that he said the "free" model no longer works and he has a paid version up now, so he must have just disabled the license for the free version. The paid version is showing 100+ downloads now.
Stupid question, but I mainly used CCSWE to disable apps starting at boot. However, I never really confirmed if it was working and I've see other apps claim to do that (non-root) such as All-In-One Toolbox I believe. Has anyone confirmed thay CCSWE actually prevented selected apps from starting at boot?

He has posted a notice via ccswe update that Samsung has revoked his partner licence and without it and the keys that license grants the app can not function. both free and paid app are rendered inactive

The developer seems a decent chap and has told me that if I buy the paid version again and email him the details he will refund the original licence. Thing is I'm reluctant to pay for something that depends on a licence I don't own. If I'd realized that it only works seemingly at the whim of Samsung, I probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place!

If Samsung has revoked his partner license, how is he selling a paid version of the app? Is that why it is a beta, so all the reviews from people saying they just purchased it and it doesn't work don't show? Even if he gets it working again, it seems like an extreme gamble to purchase an app that keeps loosing its licensing.
Is there any other non-root method of disabling startups on a Samsung phone?