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Rooted Users.. What have you gained?

I'm on the fence whether to root my device or not. The most alluring thing being the opportunity to get rid of Verizon's gimped note 7 software.
All those who have rooted... what have you specifically gained with your rooting? how is the sprint firmware?

Losing Samsung pay is a dealbreaker. I use it almost everyday
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androidbuff123 said:
I'm on the fence whether to root my device or not. The most alluring thing being the opportunity to get rid of Verizon's gimped note 7 software.
All those who have rooted... what have you specifically gained with your rooting? how is the sprint firmware?
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Well that's easy being able to use adblockers, greenify,and a system tuner is all reason for me to have root . Ov3rall you get a faster phone if you know what to do and better battery life as well.
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adaway...I hate ads in apps

adway alone is not a compelling reason for me. I use adguard which works fine (yes adway is free however).
Are there any specific gains on the firmware front?

Nothing beneficial. My battery is no better, I can't use Samsung pay, my gear app won't open so I can't use my promo watch.
I have no ads system wide though, but I was happier using Adguard for just chrome, package disabler to stop apps, and I was especially happier having everything everything work.

I just want the unlocked firmware so that I have samsung cloud the way samsung wanted it and not have to work around.

Still debating. Yes we get root but will be stuck with the ROM for a long time even after ota or any up to date updates. Is it worth to root now. Then unroot later? Or get used to not having root then be OK. Yes some ota might not be important but some might have issues fixed or new radio or what not but we can't move on or update the eng rom with all that. Unless I am completely wrong.
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cadcamaro said:
Nothing beneficial. My battery is no better, I can't use Samsung pay, my gear app won't open so I can't use my promo watch.
I have no ads system wide though, but I was happier using Adguard for just chrome, package disabler to stop apps, and I was especially happier having everything everything work.
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brentsalinas714 said:
Well that's easy being able to use adblockers, greenify,and a system tuner is all reason for me to have root . Ov3rall you get a faster phone if you know what to do and better battery life as well.
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Can all be done without root as seen in the post I quoted above yours. The phone has greenify built in btw lol The only one single thing I can think of that I would truly miss without root is xposed. Is it worth losing 3 other big features though? Don't know yet.

seh6183 said:
Can all be done without root as seen in the post I quoted above yours. The phone has greenify built in btw lol The only one single thing I can think of that I would truly miss without root is xposed. Is it worth losing 3 other big features though? Don't know yet.
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From what I can see, Xposed is installed through TWRP normally, but I haven't seen a way to install other than pushing through ADB.

cadcamaro said:
From what I can see, Xposed is installed through TWRP normally, but I haven't seen a way to install other than pushing through ADB.
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True. I haven't had a phone that was rooted but still bootloader locked for quite some time. They are something i associate with each other. Good catch. So for me, I essentially have no reason to root as of right now lol

For years I have rooted phones, and I have seen them get slower and slower.
I'm so happy to say that I see no real benefit to rooting anymore. Although AdGuard must be purchased, this app really eliminates the most compelling reason for me to root.
When I used Greenify and CPU Tuner on my older phones, I never saw any real benefit, and I think rooting may have done more harm than good. The only real benefit I would probably get by rooting is being able to fully remove the Verizon bloatware that I have already disabled.
Rooting is fun, it's more the pleasure of completing the process and the feel of living out of the manufacturer's boundaries. But, for once, I am happy to stay with the stock experience Samsung has cooked up.

People were saying Xposed and Viper were working which are huge. I went back because I want the old SNote functionality and this phone is so good I can live without it, but...
This just started. Every day these guys make a major improvement. A week from now we may have better than both worlds and be rooted, so withhold judgement, I would.

I've been rooting for years. It's a personal preference. I hate all the white on my phone. Using inverted apps, along with Custom Kernels really enhanced battery life for me. Of course adaway is awesome but there are alternatives. Inverted apps, Viper and status bar options are my rooting wants. Getting rid of the annoying volume warning, center my clock, ....... Damn there are a lot of reasons to root. Lol
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seh6183 said:
Can all be done without root as seen in the post I quoted above yours. The phone has greenify built in btw lol The only one single thing I can think of that I would truly miss without root is xposed. Is it worth losing 3 other big features though? Don't know yet.
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No it does not have greenify built in. Having the system only putting apps to sleep in 3 days is not greenify. Greenify is an on the fly app sleeper as well you can also greenify system apps.
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cadcamaro said:
Nothing beneficial. My battery is no better, I can't use Samsung pay, my gear app won't open so I can't use my promo watch.
I have no ads system wide though, but I was happier using Adguard for just chrome, package disabler to stop apps, and I was especially happier having everything everything work.
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Try using greenify app and a system tuner like 3c .
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From what I can see, Xposed is installed through TWRP normally, but I haven't seen a way to install other than pushing through ADB.
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You can flash anything using flashfire.I have exposed installed using it .
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You can select or deselect apps to "optimize" at will if I'm not mistaken.

seh6183 said:
You can select or deselect apps to "optimize" at will if I'm not mistaken.
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Only puts apps to sleep if not used for 3 days minimum .
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The main reason I always rooted my phones was to use titanium backup. Had it back up the phone to the SD card every night. Saved me a couple of times. But after 2 years on the note 4 without root, I've learned to live without it. And now that I've started using Samsung Pay, I doubt I'll bother.

MSHampton said:
The main reason I always rooted my phones was to use titanium backup. Had it back up the phone to the SD card every night. Saved me a couple of times. But after 2 years on the note 4 without root, I've learned to live without it. And now that I've started using Samsung Pay, I doubt I'll bother.
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Samsung cloud backup does exactly what titanium does now. They are systematically removing all of our desires to root one by one. It's fine with me really. I just want to be able to install kernels. Then again those are getting so good it's not really a huge deal anymore.

It's a shame we lose so much with root, too much for it to be worth it IMO. Samsung/Android pay, VoLte, wifi calling, etc. The only thing I miss about root is xposed and a few of the modules, otherwise you can do most of that stuff on an unrooted phone.

knox counter triggered! is there a way to reset it?

After rooting my Note 7, I've noticed that my Knox counter has been triggered, normally I would mind but several apps seem to depend on it to work properly(I can't even open S Health!). Is there away to reset it yet? thanks

Nope. When you root, a physical fuse in the phone is blown, so unless you have epic soldering and mad haxorz skills then you're pretty much screwed

get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.

I am rooted and my S Health works. I believe the only thing that would be permanently disabled is Samsung Pay. Some banking apps will not run if you have root but you can always install an Xposed module called root cloak to circumvent that issue.
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S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.

thedicemaster said:
get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.
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Sadly depending on what you want not everything is available without rooting.
Unless you can tell me how to change all app dpi individually.
YouTube adblocker
Synapse
Adaway
Greenify... not as as good un rooted mode
Amplify
Smart network
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you're mentioning specific root-only apps.
obviously those won't work, but there are alternative methods with (close to) the same results.
adaway: adguard, it's better anyway(doesn't rely on a system designed for no more than 100 rules, easy to toggle on/off, supports whitelisting of apps, supports firewall functionality, and can target not just entire domains but also single lines of code)
adfree YouTube: yes this one is trickier, you'd need a 3rd party YouTube app or the website+adguard to avoid ads.
alternatively you can use "Cygery AdSkip for YouTube" to automatically skip ads after 5 seconds.
as you said, greenify works just not as effective.
similar "power saving" functions however are built in on recent android devices.
and from what I can tell every function in "smart network" except switching to 2G can be achieved without root using tasker.
synapse and per app DPI are the only things on your list that are completely impossible without root(although using game tuner's resolution settings you should be able to influence scaling in some apps)

Also if you use YouTube backgrounder, OGyoutube works great and allows background / downloading of content. I'm still looking for an ad free YouTube but this suffices in the meantime.
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krabman said:
S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.
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do you have the link for it? when I try to open it, it says the following:
"Unable to open app
Because of a new security policy introduced in version 5.0, Knox is not available on compromised devices"
I've already frozen all the knox apps I could find in TB.

strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?

shinew said:
strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?
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S Health may use Knox to protect your health data (HIPAA in the USA).

The S-health thing is new, people are circumventing it by an app that lets you access the widget and from it you can open it up or some such, don't use it so I paid little attention to the fix. Don't remember where I saw that but it's here somewhere shine, I would peruse the development threads, I'm thinking I saw it in one of them.

Hello just got my note 7 via Verizon ROOT HELP

Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA

Vic35 said:
Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA
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Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.

Your bootloader is locked. It's impossible to root atm.

azzicles said:
Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.
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all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate

Vic35 said:
all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate
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Again, your bootloader is locked. So the simple answer is no.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 7.

in simple words, the bootloader is like the main gate to the internals of your phone, if locked, as on snpadragon based note 7, it is very, very difficult to root, the exynos note 7 are all open, there is at the moment only one method to root a snapdragon note 7, but I think it works only for AT&T

sucks and my 14 day return period is over ... now what

Now you learn the lesson... Never, ever, under any circumstance, buy a phone until you have verified it can be rooted. There had been an exploit for root with the SDs but Samsung fixed it in the replacement devices. You will hear people telling you root might still be attained and they are right but don't pin any hope on it.
Most people have been where you are and I number among them. The only thing you can do is sell the device, hope for root, learn your lesson. I'm sorry.

One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??

3 minit battery, Viper4android and titanium backup are what I'm missing. ????

Braca Ganon said:
One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??
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I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. Even on my Note 5 I saw no need to root. I was able to debloat carrier apps( Package Disabler Pro), use hotspot( FoxFi and PdaNet combo), change themes and icons( Samsung Theme Store) and much more, Plus, if you do decide to root, you can kiss Samsung or Android Pay goodbye. I also saw some had issues with the Iris Scanner after rooting as well. I personally love the fact that whatever feature I want to use on my phone I can do so with no FCs or trial and error. Custom Roms are based on the Devs likes and dislikes so what you think is a cool feature or function the Dev of whatever rom you are on may think its not and remove it. Once that happens, its more than just adding an .apk to priv-app or system apps, changing permissions and rebooting. It's more involved. This world is light years ahead of an IPhone jailbreak. No disrespect but a 70 year old woman can jailbreak an IPhone. LoL. Op read up on the benefits of root and what you think you need it for. You may be able to get the best of both worlds and still enjoy all the features and functionality the Note 7 has to offer. Samsung has done an excellent job coming into the times as far as root is concerned. They are making it so we don't have to root and can enjoy the benefits and features of these insanely expensive devices. I suggest you use the phone for a bit to its full potential and if you still think you need root then go for it but I'm almost certain you will realize you won't need it. Ultimately, its up to you.

Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting

travisw0204 said:
I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. .
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There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.

I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?

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There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.
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I use Adguard to remove ads globally from my phone and it works better, to me anyways, than Adaway or anything equivalent but this is just my usage. Everyone's MMV. As far as using the power of root, I was one of the biggest believers in root. However, I was tired of the trial and error associated with it while running other Custom Roms( notice I keep saying I as this is just my experience). There is nothing more frustrating than going to use a feature and get a FC because either it was removed or the files associated with it were removed. Then you have to go into the archives of a stock rom and try to restore what was deleted and hope it works. At one point I just ran a fully stock rom with root and that worked for me but we both know how useless that is when you're rooted. At the end of my post I suggested to the Op, since he is new to Android, to use Android without it for a bit and see how he fares. If he still finds root is necessary than go for it. I would never tell anyone what to do with their device but you and I both know that root is becoming more of a hassle these days because of all the added security. As a newbie, this can scare the crap out of someone but ultimately it is the Op's decision.
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Vic35 said:
I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?
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I don't play Pokemon Go. I also didn't know you needed root to play that game. I thought it was merely an app.

Vic35 said:
Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting
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Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that

Braca Ganon said:
Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that
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I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you

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Vic35 said:
I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you
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Yeah I read up on the newest hacks... it seems there's apps that don't require jailbreak but I don't know of any Android apps.. keep searching google. Someone will come up with an android hack before long... the first big hack was an android app
They will absolutely release a hack app for Android... just keep searching google

http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.

Mibuix0r said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.
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That only works on pre-recall PH1 Note 7's, you can't root the new Note 7's with PHE.

Will you root?

How many of you guys plan to root? Is it worth losing secure folder etc for easier themeing, magisk modules and better ad blocking?
I do miss swift installer even though synergy works OK

No.

Planning not to but say that every new phone lol

I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...

No
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I've been rooting all my android phones since my first one (galaxy mini) but I stopped rooting after I bought my note 9. Now I only root my backup phones.
Theres just too many good features that I'll miss if I trip my knox.
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i think the question alot should research should be:
can i actually root before buying

I keep a rooted phone for certain things.
I don't root my daily drives now though. I think I burned myself out over the years. I prefer a stable, secure phone now.
HD2, I still love you though. ?

Every new galaxy phones I got didn't last a week without being rooted. It's my first time to buy a phone on its launching period. Most probably wont get rooted in a week or two, or maybe who knows hahaha.. depends on how our great devs would work on it lol

Rooted mine. For me i want to have the freedom of root. Don't care about the apps I loose

Already Rooted My Note 10+. Dr-Ketan Guide

No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days

Nope i use Samsung pay. And dont see much of a reason to root any more

Quick answer no rooting until samsung stop updates

winol said:
No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days
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Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.

Probably later.
Because I'd like to keep the OTA updates.

liamR said:
I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...
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Hey,
I was also a little bit frustrated that Adhell3 didn't work anymore, but I found an alternative that might help you. I am currently using my Note8 with an app called CCSWE App Manager (can be found on the playstore). This app with the coupled with the CCSWE App Manager Pro License (also found on the playstore but paid) app allows to disable packages, it uses KNOX. Not sure if it supports Note10, but works perfectly on my Note8.

I don't care about loosing Knox crap. I will root on day 1 of any device I own. Systemwide add blocking being my #1 reason. Also there is nothing like Titanium backup out there. IMO stock rooted is always great.
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There is so much that works without root, if I feel the need to, then I might, but until then......:good:

dr.ketan said:
Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.
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Thank you Dr. ketan, As always you are the best! I will looking forward to your posts

Ccswe not working, again

Today, I found that ccswe is again not working due to knox license issues, I emailed the dev, and told me that, for whatever reason, samsung revoked his license, again… what a pity this thing is… I am confident about the dev solving this issue, meanwhile.. Samsung: ?

Yeah it's been like that for months. Very disappointing. I find that I'm forced to pay for an appblocker onna yearly basis that has no managed to be viable longer than a year. I miss the GatesJunior rooting years. His apk manager was the best.

Hopefully he's able to get his license back and get the app working. Best part about this guy is I don't have to re buy the app when it starts working again. And he does communicate. I also hope his health is good, last time he was in the hospital for a while.

Yes, the dev is really a honest guy, no need to re-buy or anything of the sort, I think he has troubles derived of how powerful his app is, hopefully he will fix this issue shortly

i also hope he manages to resolve this unfortunate issue with Samsung

Can anyone share the apk? It's been removed from the play store.
I'm so sick of Samsung's bull**** bloatware.

JoshReuben said:
Can anyone share the apk? It's been removed from the play store.
I'm so sick of Samsung's bull**** bloatware.
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Even if you had the apk it wouldn't work. Still has to verify the key and dial into Samsung. It's a lost cause for now.

as i understand that this app needs root to work - wouldn't f.e. Titanium Backup pro be an alternative ? or even remove apps via ADB ?

I've never rooted this phone and it worked like a charm. Don't think root was ever achieved for the VZW N10+

blackspy_ said:
as i understand that this app needs root to work - wouldn't f.e. Titanium Backup pro be an alternative ? or even remove apps via ADB ?
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There are two versions, the one for rooted devices does not need knox licensing, and it is free I think, the other one, which is a pay app works on non rooted devices, that is precisely why it relies on knox

winol said:
There are two versions, the one for rooted devices does not need knox licensing, and it is free I think, the other one, which is a pay app works on non rooted devices, that is precisely why it relies on knox
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oh - i never read about the possibility to really remove apps, without root. interesting. i wouldn't mind paying for this.
for me the two missing things on Samsung stock: proper backups like in titanium, including log-ins, or diskimages, as in TWRP-recovery and completely removing useless apps like FaceBook. deactivating them in Appmanager seems to be no proper solution, especially as as many of them can't be deactivated.

blackspy_ said:
oh - i never read about the possibility to really remove apps, without root. interesting. i wouldn't mind paying for this.
for me the two missing things on Samsung stock: proper backups like in titanium, including log-ins, or diskimages, as in TWRP-recovery and completely removing useless apps like FaceBook. deactivating them in Appmanager seems to be no proper solution, especially as as many of them can't be deactivated.
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Well ccswe, and for that matter, package disabler pro, do not have the ability to unistall certain system apps, they can just totally disable them, ccswe is more powerful than package disabler pro, as it is able to block things inside an app without disabling completely the app itself

winol said:
Well ccswe, and for that matter, package disabler pro, do not have the ability to unistall certain system apps, they can just totally disable them, ccswe is more powerful than package disabler pro, as it is able to block things inside an app without disabling completely the app itself
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Lots of pesky things.
PD MDM is the only reason this 10+ is usable without root.
Lol, AT&T updates/apps and bixby* get blocked first...
*Bixby Vision and Vision Framework are needed by the cam.

The fine granularity on the app is great. We can see all the servi, activities and other interesting elements of each app. I've seen something like that only with apps that have root access, like MyAndroidTools for example.
I was testing the free ccswe app when it stopped working. I'm gonna buy the paid version, the only draw back was that I saw just 10+ downloads on the store. Was wondering why ppl don't buy it. Reading here your opinions gives me more reasons to get it.

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Lots of pesky things.
PD MDM is the only reason this 10+ is usable without root.
Lol, AT&T updates/apps and bixby* get blocked first...
*Bixby Vision and Vision Framework are needed by the cam.
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I've blocked them and camera works fine.

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I've blocked them and camera works fine.
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No, no it doesn't. Target tracking (yellow square) needs it, possible advanced metering functions and probably more.
Those two Bixby apps only run when the cam needs them.

It does not appear to me that he lost his Knox license, I read sonewhere that he said the "free" model no longer works and he has a paid version up now, so he must have just disabled the license for the free version. The paid version is showing 100+ downloads now.
Stupid question, but I mainly used CCSWE to disable apps starting at boot. However, I never really confirmed if it was working and I've see other apps claim to do that (non-root) such as All-In-One Toolbox I believe. Has anyone confirmed thay CCSWE actually prevented selected apps from starting at boot?

He has posted a notice via ccswe update that Samsung has revoked his partner licence and without it and the keys that license grants the app can not function. both free and paid app are rendered inactive

The developer seems a decent chap and has told me that if I buy the paid version again and email him the details he will refund the original licence. Thing is I'm reluctant to pay for something that depends on a licence I don't own. If I'd realized that it only works seemingly at the whim of Samsung, I probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place!

If Samsung has revoked his partner license, how is he selling a paid version of the app? Is that why it is a beta, so all the reviews from people saying they just purchased it and it doesn't work don't show? Even if he gets it working again, it seems like an extreme gamble to purchase an app that keeps loosing its licensing.
Is there any other non-root method of disabling startups on a Samsung phone?