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So why root?

I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?

For the fun of tinkering?
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For the fun of tinkering?
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This.........
And knowing you can restore from backup if something goes wrong. Everyone has their own reasons for root. But just knowing if you want to tinker around with your device, you can.

kg1128 said:
I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?
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You can be rooted and still receive the OTA update. As long as you dont remove any system apps or install a custom recovery you are good to go! If you would like to keep root during OTA you can enable SuperSU survival mode also.

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For the fun of tinkering?
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If your asking yourself why root then why did you choose to root? Root is awesome for people who love to play around with their devices and make changes to them to fit their needs. If you think the device is awesome the way it is then the only reason to root would probably be for backing up your apps.
To proper answer this question. "So why root?". Because we want to. Not everyone shares our joy of rooting but this is XDA and most of what we do here revolves around having a rooted device.

If u dont want to root then the question should be why android ? U like being limited to what the company gives u dont u ?
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With rooting you can customize your device as you like
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kg1128 said:
I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?
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There is a laundry list of benefits to rooting your device, too many to list here, but the main reason IMO is so you can make your device YOUR own!
Eventually the DEVs will have the OTA built into their ROMS and tweeks. You also benefit from adding the BEST features and tweeks that often are not included in Stock builds, or are actually screwed up by Stock builds and updates. You can also just root your device and stay mostly stock, then add features, mods, and tweeks at your liking.
So, for me, its all about having options and being able to set up the device how I like it best. I think you'll find most people on here feel the same way. For me, I don't even activate a device unless its rooted first... Not rooting is kind of like having a Sports car and not being able to do any mods to it,- no air cleaners, no wheels, no gauges, no upgrades, just having to leave it the way you bought isn't ANY fun!
Thanks to all the people who work hard to make the good stuff happen!
ROOT IT :good:

It's not that complicated to un root and takes 60 seconds. ..

Full App+Data backup/restore and tethering.
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You can be rooted and still receive the OTA update. As long as you dont remove any system apps or install a custom recovery you are good to go! If you would like to keep root during OTA you can enable SuperSU survival mode also.
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That's not been my experience with my GS3. I've attempted to install the few OTA's that have come for the phone and while you can hit the Install now button, it fails to actually install it. Only once I unrooted did it actually complete.

I root cause its there.
Actually, its for the Ad Block and Titanium Backup and then Tether whenever that comes along.

I did it so I could meet and date supermodels

to get rid of ads, I also plan on putting the perseus kernal on it so I can charge my phone with a car charger. and as everyone else stated, to be able to make it how I like it.

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In 8bit color?

kg1128 said:
I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?
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Its still a relatively new device and dev support hasn't REALLY taken off yet IMO. Go look at the S3 forum for example and there are threads all over the place with ROMs, kernels and MODs.

Moving from rooted phone to Note 7, best workarounds?

Greetings everyone, I'm looking for some advice. For the past 6 years I've had only daily driver phones that were rooted and boot unlocked. On Friday that'll change when my Note 7 arrives, it was simply too compelling a phone to pass up. BUT, the two things I'm sure I'll miss are 1) full device (and individual app) backup using TWRP + Titanium Backup, and, 2) whole device ad blocking using AdAway. Are there any truly useful apps/solutions/workarounds to accomplish those things on a stock Samsung phone?

Same here, coming from sony(2011), nexus and htc, rooting and bl unlocking has been my first interactions with my phone. But like you I won't be doing that for samsung pay.
1. Titanium backup (or similar) might have some limited functionality. I'm yet to see if I'd have any luck with adb and a computer backup.
2. So far I found Adguard to provide the closest service. But then again, it wont be the same as adaway.

I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.

Samsung browser supports adblocking https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.crystalapp.crystal maybe there is some other apps to for just browser? If u want apps to block ads you will need a better app like AdClear that is free or even get the AdGuard pay for cheap:
AdGuard works without root on both WiFi and mobile data. It's not free but if you choose to pay in Russian rubles a lifetime license costs around 4$. Works like a charm and gets regularly updates. It blocks ad's everywhere and not just in the browser. Only ad's in the YouTube app are currently not blocked but they are working on a workaround. https://m.adguard.com/en/purchase.html?currencyId=1#1/36500/MOBILE
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Zolares said:
I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.
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I was about to recommend adguard but I've never heard of adClear. It's actually much better. As for helium, I think it's pretty neat except it doesn't backup system app info.

best advice for really disabling apps (better than the disable option in settings) is package disabler pro.
Works only on samsung phones but works wonders.

Samzebian said:
best advice for really disabling apps (better than the disable option in settings) is package disabler pro.
Works only on samsung phones but works wonders.
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Cool, I'll try it. I was gonna ask about package disabler.

I bought the Note Edge a couple years back when the Note 4 came out.. coming from a T-Mobile rooted Note 3 it was rough because I bought a T-Mobile version and the guy sent me an AT&T unlocked off Ebay... so though it was on lock the TMobile the bootloader was locked and I could not root. I hated every minute with that phone so I only had it for 3 weeks. I ended up selling it taking $100 loss to read by an authentic T-Mobile version. Not until then was I happy. I just read that the LG G5 at T-Mobile is now locking their bootloaders! I wish Samsung would put some development time in and make an unlocker for those of us that want it if not I'm just going to return my phone take the $50 loss that comes with it for the restocking fee. Then by an international version which I've already seen can obtain root.
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This is really breaking my heart due to the fact that I was in an accident a few years back that left me almost paralyzed though I walk now I can barely walk no I work I can barely work I'm on full disability so to take away my one hop which is routing and playing with custom roms really really bums me out... especially since I've had every Samsung Galaxy Note ever made...plus the Tab S and Tab S2...
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We should ALL keep petitioning for TMOBILE to continue to help with an unlocking tool!
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Yeah I need an alternative to viper4android. I don't think I can go without root and will be getting the international version.
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Corbitt74 said:
Cool, I'll try it. I was gonna ask about package disabler.
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I'll try it too, thanks!

Zolares said:
I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.
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Great recommendations, thank you! I recall having tried Helium on my HTC One M8 a couple of years ago before I'd rooted it. It didn't work too well for me back then, but perhaps It's gotten better, so I'll give it another look.

ARNOB said:
Same here, coming from sony(2011), nexus and htc, rooting and bl unlocking has been my first interactions with my phone. But like you I won't be doing that for samsung pay.
1. Titanium backup (or similar) might have some limited functionality. I'm yet to see if I'd have any luck with adb and a computer backup.
2. So far I found Adguard to provide the closest service. But then again, it wont be the same as adaway.
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Hmm, I hadn't considered ADB to computer backup. Wonder if that'll actually work.

I was in another room about locked Bootloaders on this phone... technically no it has a real answer but there's a bunch of little babies and their whining about how it's like get over it move on get over it blah blah blah. But the real fact is they don't have the phone they don't have the money for the phone they don't have the intelligence to root the phone
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I'm just going to wait for ups and move on get to work ...Xda is turning into YouTube with trollers
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My main apps without root.
1. Adguard (I've found it to be the best over the other VPN Ad Blockers) Block's everything.
2. Package Disabler Pro (blocks all bloatware apps from running)
3 For backups there are few that all do the same thing like many poster have said.

sorry if i am already a little late to the party but what can't you/shouldn't you root a note 7?? i wasn't aware of that. what does it do to the phone if you do root it. i have seen a few posts of people rooting them. sorry if this has been discussed before.

probablecauzdnb said:
sorry if i am already a little late to the party but what can't you/shouldn't you root a note 7?? i wasn't aware of that. what does it do to the phone if you do root it. i have seen a few posts of people rooting them. sorry if this has been discussed before.
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For me the reason is it trips knox for which you will lose samsung pay forever.

I have to admit, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think Samsung Pay is a killer feature. If you don't mind my asking, what country are you in, and why don't cards work for you?

It would also get rid of the Secure Folder feature since that is Knox dependent too.
Although I've only gotten the Note7 for a day, that Secure Folder has already become indispensable.
Even if I haven't stopped rooting for years, I believe I would still sacrifice root any day to keep that Secure Folder feature.
Not sure if there's a root alternative to the Secure Folder's features or if it'll one day be possible, but rooting exposes too much security risks anyway. If I was rooted, I wouldn't trust the Secure Folder as much as I would have while unrooted.

Secure Folder is a bit more understandable, though I have exactly the opposite reaction to you -- I consider an unrooted phone an incredible security risk, as I have absolutely no control over its internals, and I don't trust the Secure Folder because it appears to be insecure by design (allows biometric unlock). Losing the ability to restore older versions of apps, freeze preinstalled apps, modify the hosts file (for domain blocking), or run a firewall that can't be bypassed is kind of a dealbreaker to me.
I can at least understand people who feel otherwise, though. The Samsung Pay bit was what made me stop and ask, because it's the first time I've ever seen someone who actually thought it was valuable, and I was really curious about why.

Hey!
I've been using my note 3 since it's official release and i'm wondering if you guys have a workaround of Youtube Adaway for non rooted devices !

Advantages of Root

After I get a new unit for availing the Note 7 recall program I am planning to root. Aside from seeing the "knox 0x1 or 1x0?" what are the other disadvantages of a rooted Note 7? We'll maybe except for warranty.
My reasons to root:
XPOSED Framework :laugh:
Cheers

Uses of sixaxis controller if you got a ps3/4 unless you try to use all those other third party controller that can be use without root.
Flux "root only preview". I like this one the best so far but as it a preview still it have some quirts that dont work right.
Other Root app I guess SD Maid, Carbon, and a few others.
I'm trying to figure out what the disadvantage of root as in what app wont work if rooted even with RootCloak

well, dont forget ad blocking, I also like gmd gesture control, xposed of course, ifon, among many other apps

root is life.

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root is life.
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Great argument!
I still dont see what root offers nowadays. I used to root my HTC One, S2, etc etc to allow for some apps but nowadays, Android appears to have nearly all the functionality that i need without rooting.

m00moo said:
Great argument!
I still dont see what root offers nowadays. I used to root my HTC One, S2, etc etc to allow for some apps but nowadays, Android appears to have nearly all the functionality that i need without rooting.
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For me thats the opposite, ive been tweak developer on ios. I still hack games as a hobby. No root no phone for me. I come straight from sony phones so its really different and a big change but ill manage lol. If i cant have a custom recovery, xposed & root on a phone, i will just abandon it like i did with the s5.

I always rooted my devices, but now planing on not doing so I want those security patches and OTA ofc... reflashing ROMs and setting up all form the start is pain in the ass. But i will miss xposed, adaway

Root when they no longer support your device =P

Hello just got my note 7 via Verizon ROOT HELP

Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA

Vic35 said:
Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA
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Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.

Your bootloader is locked. It's impossible to root atm.

azzicles said:
Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.
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all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate

Vic35 said:
all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate
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Again, your bootloader is locked. So the simple answer is no.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 7.

in simple words, the bootloader is like the main gate to the internals of your phone, if locked, as on snpadragon based note 7, it is very, very difficult to root, the exynos note 7 are all open, there is at the moment only one method to root a snapdragon note 7, but I think it works only for AT&T

sucks and my 14 day return period is over ... now what

Now you learn the lesson... Never, ever, under any circumstance, buy a phone until you have verified it can be rooted. There had been an exploit for root with the SDs but Samsung fixed it in the replacement devices. You will hear people telling you root might still be attained and they are right but don't pin any hope on it.
Most people have been where you are and I number among them. The only thing you can do is sell the device, hope for root, learn your lesson. I'm sorry.

One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??

3 minit battery, Viper4android and titanium backup are what I'm missing. ????

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One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??
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I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. Even on my Note 5 I saw no need to root. I was able to debloat carrier apps( Package Disabler Pro), use hotspot( FoxFi and PdaNet combo), change themes and icons( Samsung Theme Store) and much more, Plus, if you do decide to root, you can kiss Samsung or Android Pay goodbye. I also saw some had issues with the Iris Scanner after rooting as well. I personally love the fact that whatever feature I want to use on my phone I can do so with no FCs or trial and error. Custom Roms are based on the Devs likes and dislikes so what you think is a cool feature or function the Dev of whatever rom you are on may think its not and remove it. Once that happens, its more than just adding an .apk to priv-app or system apps, changing permissions and rebooting. It's more involved. This world is light years ahead of an IPhone jailbreak. No disrespect but a 70 year old woman can jailbreak an IPhone. LoL. Op read up on the benefits of root and what you think you need it for. You may be able to get the best of both worlds and still enjoy all the features and functionality the Note 7 has to offer. Samsung has done an excellent job coming into the times as far as root is concerned. They are making it so we don't have to root and can enjoy the benefits and features of these insanely expensive devices. I suggest you use the phone for a bit to its full potential and if you still think you need root then go for it but I'm almost certain you will realize you won't need it. Ultimately, its up to you.

Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting

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I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. .
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There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.

I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?

krabman said:
There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.
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I use Adguard to remove ads globally from my phone and it works better, to me anyways, than Adaway or anything equivalent but this is just my usage. Everyone's MMV. As far as using the power of root, I was one of the biggest believers in root. However, I was tired of the trial and error associated with it while running other Custom Roms( notice I keep saying I as this is just my experience). There is nothing more frustrating than going to use a feature and get a FC because either it was removed or the files associated with it were removed. Then you have to go into the archives of a stock rom and try to restore what was deleted and hope it works. At one point I just ran a fully stock rom with root and that worked for me but we both know how useless that is when you're rooted. At the end of my post I suggested to the Op, since he is new to Android, to use Android without it for a bit and see how he fares. If he still finds root is necessary than go for it. I would never tell anyone what to do with their device but you and I both know that root is becoming more of a hassle these days because of all the added security. As a newbie, this can scare the crap out of someone but ultimately it is the Op's decision.
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Vic35 said:
I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?
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I don't play Pokemon Go. I also didn't know you needed root to play that game. I thought it was merely an app.

Vic35 said:
Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting
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Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that

Braca Ganon said:
Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that
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I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you

I'm
Vic35 said:
I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you
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Yeah I read up on the newest hacks... it seems there's apps that don't require jailbreak but I don't know of any Android apps.. keep searching google. Someone will come up with an android hack before long... the first big hack was an android app
They will absolutely release a hack app for Android... just keep searching google

http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.

Mibuix0r said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.
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That only works on pre-recall PH1 Note 7's, you can't root the new Note 7's with PHE.

Should I root?

HI All,
So I've have my 7T for about a month now and are very happy coming from a P 2xl.
Now I'm thinking should I or should I not root. When I had my Note 4 I rooted all the time but now that I think of it, even though it was kind of fun, I don't miss the bugs. On the positive side , due to so much bloat from Samsung, I liked the ability to delete and clean out the phone. Moving on the P 2 XL I didn't root because it was so clean and Google lets you delete practically everything you don't want. Now I'm with the 7T which seems to be another "clean" phone.
At this point , I'm looking for suggestions:
What are the pros and cons?
Happy Holidays
Rich

It's more like what you want to achieve with root.
It's a bit more complicated since there is no TWRP. And it case something goes wrong, it might be a bit tricky to get restore everything, but you should be fine since there's are plenty of instructions.
I've heard some banking apps does not work, but haven't experienced that.
Unlocking the bootloader makes the widevine Level L3, so you are limited to 720p Netflix.
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I don't think it is necessary to root because you can debloat with adb commands. If you root the banking apps won't work for example and because of rooting you expose yourself to a security risk

I tried it, didn't end up working well, had to use the OnePlus recovery tool
Also as for banking apps stopping working, use magisk hide, may also work on Netflix but not sure

I'm usually a big fan of rooting, but have been using my 7t for a week without it and don't miss it. Brave browser and adb debloat has accomplished most of what I need root for.

In my case answer was simple. Titaniumbackup requires root. Not all apps have import/export settings or do so completely. Adaway, Vpn hotspot (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnhotspot&hl=en_US), and some other apps I use also require root. Hell, I could of gotten a samdung product (on promotion) for a few bucks more. Root or bust !!!

Reasons to root:
Adaway
Reasons not to:

I rooted the phone a month or so back to use a custom kernel, install AdAway and even tried out OmniROM which was quite buggy and essentially a step down from OxygenOS. More importantly, it wasn't worth it because of losing Widevine L1 which is needed in my case for Netflix and Prime Video, as I occasionally connect it to other display devices over Type-C. Banking apps mostly worked with Magisk Hide but then some of them were a bit glitchy.
Moreover, it was a bit of a pain to restore OxygenOS as the fastboot roms fail the integrity check and the only option is to do a factory flash. I eventually settled on debloating through adb and using Blokada for adblocking which more or less serves its purpose.

I root on the first day. Mainly for adaway , viper4android and theming. Its just way easier to achieve these with root .

pbman1953 said:
HI All,
So I've have my 7T for about a month now and are very happy coming from a P 2xl.
Now I'm thinking should I or should I not root. When I had my Note 4 I rooted all the time but now that I think of it, even though it was kind of fun, I don't miss the bugs. On the positive side , due to so much bloat from Samsung, I liked the ability to delete and clean out the phone. Moving on the P 2 XL I didn't root because it was so clean and Google lets you delete practically everything you don't want. Now I'm with the 7T which seems to be another "clean" phone.
At this point , I'm looking for suggestions:
What are the pros and cons?
Happy Holidays
Rich
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Adaway is essential.
Root provides you with control.
YouTube without ads.
TB
Full tasker control.
Nobrainer.

Kirahvi said:
Reasons to root:
Adaway
Reasons not to:
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Was just coming on to post exactly the same point. I rooted no issues and my banking apps work if I use Magisk Hide so its all good

Hi!
Wich one is the best guide to unlock bootloader and root Without any problem?
Thanks!

paulo_snower said:
Hi!
Wich one is the best guide to unlock bootloader and root Without any problem?
Thanks!
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Check the guides section
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surdustef said:
I don't think it is necessary to root because you can debloat with adb commands. If you root the banking apps won't work for example and because of rooting you expose yourself to a security risk
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I tend to agree with you. Please explain " adb commands". I've heard of them but have no idea how to use them. Plus what is the bloat in this phone? What items should be gone?
Thanks

mikefnz said:
Adaway is essential.
Root provides you with control.
YouTube without ads.
TB
Full tasker control.
Nobrainer.
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It's actually possible to install Vanced YouTube apk without rooting

pbman1953 said:
I tend to agree with you. Please explain " adb commands". I've heard of them but have no idea how to use them. Plus what is the bloat in this phone? What items should be gone?
Thanks
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You can check my post https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/debloat-via-adb-root-t4018801 about debloat apps