Separate variant guides - Moto E4 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion

Moto E4 Plus have 2 variants, Qualcomm devices and Mediatek devices.
I think more easy to users, if have separate guides, from Qualcomm and MTK devices.
This is only one sugestion for moderators.
What you think about?

ROGGGER3G said:
Moto E4 Plus have 2 variants, Qualcomm devices and Mediatek devices.
I think more easy to users, if have separate guides, from Qualcomm and MTK devices.
This is only one sugestion for moderators.
What you think about?
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Possibly, but only in Dev Forums and only if the devices have significant popularity. Which seems a way off right now.
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SM-N7502 Not even getting KITKAT, How can I get it myself?

Hello,
My friend owns a Samsung Note 3 Neo (N-7502) and he wants to update it because it never got any updates from Samsung from the day he got it (Still running 4.3 and other versions at 5.1.1 already....)
I know there's more than a topic of discussions about this, but there's no answers so I thought the people who could help didn't notice this...
It could be CyanogenMod or anything else, just something newer, better.
He could sacrifice the usage of the 2nd sim card for now if that's the only way.
Please if you know a way, help.
Thanks
My girlfriend owns one too. I've searched in a lot of places, but people said that installing something of the single SIM variants on a dual SIM one won't work. If someone knows how to make it work, please tell us.
*Bump*
I've searched a lot for a solution but I couldn't find any.
Would installing a different model's (N7505) rom work?
Would it even boot up?
It is a totally different phone
Duos variant is qualcomm based while other variants are exynos so no ROM other than stock will work for it for now
There is some hopeful trials to build cm12.1 ROM by Firelord but till the moment we are speaking there is nothing
Hope for the best
Best Regards
mylove90 said:
It is a totally different phone
Duos variant is qualcomm based while other variants are exynos so no ROM other than stock will work for it for now
There is some hopeful trials to build cm12.1 ROM by Firelord but till the moment we are speaking there is nothing
Hope for the best
Best Regards
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I had higher hopes.. According to PhoneArena the 750 variant is the one with Qualcomm and the duos (7502) is similar to 7505 processor wise.
Is that wrong?
Iamhady said:
I had higher hopes.. According to PhoneArena the 750 variant is the one with Qualcomm and the duos (7502) is similar to 7505 processor wise.
Is that wrong?
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See that page :
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_neo_duos-6015.php
Also i got build.prop which confirms this
Also all kernel sources from Samsung
Knowing that the device is qualcomm based gives me hope that it may get CM ROM
Anyway, We need some attention from more developers
Best Regards
mylove90 said:
See that page :
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_neo_duos-6015.php
Also i got build.prop which confirms this
Also all kernel sources from Samsung
Knowing that the device is qualcomm based gives me hope that it may get CM ROM
Anyway, We need some attention from more developers
Best Regards
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I'm not sure developers will bother.. But I hope they will.
I don't understand the reason for this... Qualcomm is the most popular processor manufacturer of CPUs so it'd be easier to create a ROM or edit an existing one to work on this phone... I don't understand why the exynos ones are getting more attention.
Iamhady said:
I'm not sure developers will bother.. But I hope they will.
I don't understand the reason for this... Qualcomm is the most popular processor manufacturer of CPUs so it'd be easier to create a ROM or edit an existing one to work on this phone... I don't understand why the exynos ones are getting more attention.
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According to https://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ MSM8228 board is used by Samsung G800H (Galaxy S5 mini) and N7502. Also google shows HTC Desire 816 Dual Sim based on the same board and looks like that's all. But these other devices already have custom roms.
Please build a ROM for sm n7502 dual sim variant

New Update

Got a new update for my K10-420ds. Just added an emergency button on power off screen a narrower notification panel and just some tweaks and supposedly updates to 5.1.1. I think this might be the final update for this phone. Just wanted to let you know. Does this mean that now the bootloader is unlock able?
sammessi10 said:
Got a new update for my K10-420ds. Just added an emergency button on power off screen a narrower notification panel and just some tweaks and supposedly updates to 5.1.1. I think this might be the final update for this phone. Just wanted to let you know. Does this mean that now the bootloader is unlock able?
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Wait, what? Some ok K10's are still on lollipop?
sammessi10 said:
Got a new update for my K10-420ds. Just added an emergency button on power off screen a narrower notification panel and just some tweaks and supposedly updates to 5.1.1. I think this might be the final update for this phone. Just wanted to let you know. Does this mean that now the bootloader is unlock able?
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Seems like you are late buddy. I already posted about the update long back. I also uploaded the firmware file if you ever need to refresh your phone.
Nougat will be coming for the phone according to some news articles.
pvineeth97 said:
Seems like you are late buddy. I already posted about the update long back. I also uploaded the firmware file if you ever need to refresh your phone.
Nougat will be coming for the phone according to some news articles.
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I am sorry but what you are trying to say is Snap 410 models of K10 are gonna be updated to Nougat? I've seen the article but upon asking the same to the CC, they just say that they are not allowed the disclose unlike Samsung who just said that my J7 Prime is gonna get a Nougat update and If at all they are gonna release an update for K10's, it would definitely be for the MTK models. I dont know to any extent but is it really possible to directly upgrade from Lollipop to Nougat. Just not so knowledgable in this Upgrade stuff.
sammessi10 said:
I am sorry but what you are trying to say is Snap 410 models of K10 are gonna be updated to Nougat? I've seen the article but upon asking the same to the CC, they just say that they are not allowed the disclose unlike Samsung who just said that my J7 Prime is gonna get a Nougat update and If at all they are gonna release an update for K10's, it would definitely be for the MTK models. I dont know to any extent but is it really possible to directly upgrade from Lollipop to Nougat. Just not so knowledgable in this Upgrade stuff.
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Yup this update N would be for MTK variants only. Why? because the LGk10 2017 is MTK variant only. Probably the Nougat which is built-in in 2017 will just ported to MTK 2016 variant like k430dsy
ArcherEmiya said:
Yup this update N would be for MTK variants only. Why? because the LGk10 2017 is MTK variant only. Probably the Nougat which is built-in in 2017 will just ported to MTK 2016 variant like k430dsy
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No not true bro. Most of the Qualcomm based phones have higher RAM like K420DS (Indian Variant) has 2 GB RAM and I believe that they will release Nougat for Qualcomm too.
As you know they always release new updates to Korean variants first.
Korean variants are : F670L,S etc. They have Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 same as other Qualcomm models except LG MS428. So I believe strongly it will be released for Qualcomm soon!
Keep looking here for new "Nougat" updates: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=nougat
Hey guys. I have an AT&T lg k10 ( build number mxb48t). Does my phone have an MTK chipset (In other words, will I get an nougat update)?Also, do you know if there's and method available for a root? I have 6.0.1
Nobodyslight said:
Hey guys. I have an AT&T lg k10 ( build number mxb48t). Does my phone have an MTK chipset (In other words, will I get an nougat update)?Also, do you know if there's and method available for a root? I have 6.0.1
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Download app "AIDA 64" tap on cpu, and you will have listed cpu socket.
And no you will most likely not get nougat, none of 2016 models will. Specially mediatek versions, because of they are mediatek.
Professor Woland said:
Download app "AIDA 64" tap on cpu, and you will have listed cpu socket.
And no you will most likely not get nougat, none of 2016 models will. Specially mediatek versions, because of they are mediatek.
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Why do you say none of the 2016's will?
Nobodyslight said:
Why do you say none of the 2016's will?
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Because you don't launch next generation of phones if you are going to update software on last generation. Especially when is case of mid-range phones. Mid range phones are made to 'be' one year, then new generation comes up with new software and so on.. One more thing, phones that aren't flagships and have mtk chipset - the one that got any software update are rare (you can say that isn't any out there)
Professor Woland said:
Because you don't launch next generation of phones if you are going to update software on last generation. Especially when is case of mid-range phones. Mid range phones are made to 'be' one year, then new generation comes up with new software and so on.. One more thing, phones that aren't flagships and have mtk chipset - the one that got any software update are rare (you can say that isn't any out there)
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But wouldn't you think that that Snapdragon editions would feature at least 7.0? I mean some of the components that make the 2017 K10 "new" aren't involving the software. It's mainly the hardware. A fingerprint sensor, better battery, and expanded ram are what would pull for an upgrade. I agree that the MTK variants are out of the question, but I feel like nougat isn't to far of a stretch for the Snapdragons
Nobodyslight said:
But wouldn't you think that that Snapdragon editions would feature at least 7.0? I mean some of the components that make the 2017 K10 "new" aren't involving the software. It's mainly the hardware. A fingerprint sensor, better battery, and expanded ram are what would pull for an upgrade. I agree that the MTK variants are out of the question, but I feel like nougat isn't to far of a stretch for the Snapdragons
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Yes, there are new hardware things, but not big deal only fingerprint sensor the rest is just better version so it handles nougat smooth. I don't think that they will give nougat for just a half or ¼ devices (I don't know how many % are snapdragon versions) that's logic you must agree.
Professor Woland said:
Yes, there are new hardware things, but not big deal only fingerprint sensor the rest is just better version so it handles nougat smooth. I don't think that they will give nougat for just a half or ¼ devices (I don't know how many % are snapdragon versions) that's logic you must agree.
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I see what you mean, but the percentage that are snapdragon are the major carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc). I just attempt a hopeful opinion on nougat. I mean look how long the Nexus 7 was supported.
Nobodyslight said:
I see what you mean, but the percentage that are snapdragon are the major carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc). I just attempt a hopeful opinion on nougat. I mean look how long the Nexus 7 was supported.
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You can't compare any nexus or pixel device to any other phone when it's about software especially how long they maintains it.
pvineeth97 said:
No not true bro. Most of the Qualcomm based phones have higher RAM like K420DS (Indian Variant) has 2 GB RAM and I believe that they will release Nougat for Qualcomm too.
As you know they always release new updates to Korean variants first.
Korean variants are : F670L,S etc. They have Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 same as other Qualcomm models except LG MS428. So I believe strongly it will be released for Qualcomm soon!
Keep looking here for new "Nougat" updates: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=nougat
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The first LG K10 2017 variant has MTK SoC and Mali GPU thats why I think they just gonna release it first on MTK 2016 variant. Well good luck for all of us with this rumors I wish Android N had no compatibility issue with some previous games and wish it can have root access also.
Professor Woland said:
Because you don't launch next generation of phones if you are going to update software on last generation. Especially when is case of mid-range phones. Mid range phones are made to 'be' one year, then new generation comes up with new software and so on.. One more thing, phones that aren't flagships and have mtk chipset - the one that got any software update are rare (you can say that isn't any out there)
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I kinda agree with you sir.
I have a qualcomm snapdragon LG k10 from metro pcs you think it would ever get 7.0?
shadowwolf86 said:
I have a qualcomm snapdragon LG k10 from metro pcs you think it would ever get 7.0?
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First read posts in this thread.
Yes you can have nougat on k10 but only if you buy 2017 K10
Seriously now, since there is next gen of K series there is 0,001% chance of getting nougat, besides that there is K10's with mtk chipset which is know for not getting too much updates.
Professor Woland said:
First read posts in this thread.
Yes you can have nougat on k10 but only if you buy 2017 K10
Seriously now, since there is next gen of K series there is 0,001% chance of getting nougat, besides that there is K10's with mtk chipset which is know for not getting too much updates.
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Actually, I've been following up on the news for the 2017 K10. Its only been released in india as of now, and looking at some other phones which had a similar lifetime (being recreated with the same name), it's possible that companies like at&t may not sell this phone. And if that's the case, then the likelihood of a nougat update (from said companies) is great. Offering a low budget phone like the K10 that has the latest OS is a great way to improve sales. I also don't thinks it's a fair assumption to say that there's a 0.001% chance. At&T just updated the g5 this last week.
Update for Noughat
ArcherEmiya said:
Yup this update N would be for MTK variants only. Why? because the LGk10 2017 is MTK variant only. Probably the Nougat which is built-in in 2017 will just ported to MTK 2016 variant like k430dsy
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Hi sorry but there wont be an Noughat 7.0 update
please find attached URL:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-k10/help/news-updates-k10-t3566332

Development potential oft redmi note 8 / redmi note 8 pro

Hi everybody,
I am considering to buy this phone, (rmn8 pro), however it ships with the mediatek G90T processor. in the past my understanding was that ROM development for mediatek based phones is troublesome due to missing sources. Can anyone confirm this issue for me?
Would it therefore be better to buy the non pro version of rthe rmn8 shipping with an snapdragon 655 processor?
Yeah I'd like to know it too.
OK - so it seems that if we want custom ROMs we should go with the non pro version.
Based on xiaomis history and the development activity for the redmi note 3 snapdragon and redmi note 3 mediathek there is a considerable difference.
Furthermore it appears that it took 3 years for xiaomi to release the kernel source for the rmn 3 and the rmn 2 mediatek version. In general it appears that the source release is up to the OEMS - e.g. Xiaomi. Mediathek is known to only distribute the source to customers or people who are willong to pay.
This is kind of disappointing as the pro version of the rmn8 is quite a bit better.
Any other opinions ?
I want the pro version but mtk processor no way ill be buying as I want gcam and custom roms.
I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
CO.Wildfire.OL said:
I would suggest you to wait for the Global launch because Xiaomi might launch RN8Pro with Snapdragon soc..
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That could be the case, but I guess it won't happen as they try to create some hype around the new helio chips.
If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
The phone is very, very good
The phone is very, very good,Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
kounir said:
If Xiaomi released source code for kernel, there is chance for start develop custom ROMs and kernels, but SoC from Qualcomm Snapdragon still more universal. I think MediaTek will get custom ROMs/kernels but Gcam will be more problematic. In my opinion XDA members should try create better support for MediaTek SoC. Why ? MediaTek Helio G90T it's seriously impressive SoC with some more performance than SD730G.
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The problem is that MTK doesn't fully release the sources of their SoC's that's why it has low development here in XDA.
xhqsjzs999999 said:
The phone is very, very good,Feel good, good color, great performance.
Life is invincible.
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Have you got the phone
n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
Join this telegram group for rn8 discussion- MOD EDIT: Please read this
nicflack said:
n7 pro 675 is faster than n8 665
but n8's screen is better than n7 pro
and n7 pro have a lot of rom
i searched just 3 phones have snapdragon 665,and all has few roms
so i want to buy n7 pro recently
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Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
naser_cbe said:
Exactly my thoughts.... Redmi Note 7 pro has lot of developments going on and it is better than Redmi Note 8.
Redmi note 8 has Samsung sensor which does not have much gcam support.
Redmi note 7 pro has Sony sensor which works flawlessly with gcam.
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Well about development, sure note 7 Pro may have better Dev support coz it's an older device but as far as gcam support is concerned, you may be wrong, I'm using note 8 and it's working flawless. At least it's giving much better camera results when compared to poco
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Have you got the phone
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Not sure whether the guys who ordered online received or not. I got the device from an local Mi store on the sale day itself.

Is it safe to say the Moto G5 Plus ROM development is coming to its end?

Essentially this phone reached its 3rd years anniversary. It doesn't seems there's much ROM development going anymore.
I tried to look if the G5 and G5 Plus ROM are interchangeable. I can't find a concrete answer, but some threads suggested their hardware change render the ROM are not interchangeable due to different device driver.
Is it safe to say the Moto G5 Plus ROM development is finally coming to its end?
I do not think it will arrive yet, the problem is that the Moto G5 Plus is a phone stagnant in what is development in roms, Many communities and groups in Telegram have tried to achieve those that few have achieved, Install GSIs in the G5 Plus, If it ever succeeds, the safest thing is that the development of roms and GSIs will be as great as the beginning.
MFYL said:
Essentially this phone reached its 3rd years anniversary. It doesn't seems there's much ROM development going anymore.
I tried to look if the G5 and G5 Plus ROM are interchangeable. I can't find a concrete answer, but some threads suggested their hardware change render the ROM are not interchangeable due to different device driver.
Is it safe to say the Moto G5 Plus ROM development is finally coming to its end?
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