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SM-N7502 Not even getting KITKAT, How can I get it myself?

Hello,
My friend owns a Samsung Note 3 Neo (N-7502) and he wants to update it because it never got any updates from Samsung from the day he got it (Still running 4.3 and other versions at 5.1.1 already....)
I know there's more than a topic of discussions about this, but there's no answers so I thought the people who could help didn't notice this...
It could be CyanogenMod or anything else, just something newer, better.
He could sacrifice the usage of the 2nd sim card for now if that's the only way.
Please if you know a way, help.
Thanks

My girlfriend owns one too. I've searched in a lot of places, but people said that installing something of the single SIM variants on a dual SIM one won't work. If someone knows how to make it work, please tell us.

*Bump*
I've searched a lot for a solution but I couldn't find any.
Would installing a different model's (N7505) rom work?
Would it even boot up?

It is a totally different phone
Duos variant is qualcomm based while other variants are exynos so no ROM other than stock will work for it for now
There is some hopeful trials to build cm12.1 ROM by Firelord but till the moment we are speaking there is nothing
Hope for the best
Best Regards

mylove90 said:
It is a totally different phone
Duos variant is qualcomm based while other variants are exynos so no ROM other than stock will work for it for now
There is some hopeful trials to build cm12.1 ROM by Firelord but till the moment we are speaking there is nothing
Hope for the best
Best Regards
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I had higher hopes.. According to PhoneArena the 750 variant is the one with Qualcomm and the duos (7502) is similar to 7505 processor wise.
Is that wrong?

Iamhady said:
I had higher hopes.. According to PhoneArena the 750 variant is the one with Qualcomm and the duos (7502) is similar to 7505 processor wise.
Is that wrong?
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See that page :
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_neo_duos-6015.php
Also i got build.prop which confirms this
Also all kernel sources from Samsung
Knowing that the device is qualcomm based gives me hope that it may get CM ROM
Anyway, We need some attention from more developers
Best Regards

mylove90 said:
See that page :
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_neo_duos-6015.php
Also i got build.prop which confirms this
Also all kernel sources from Samsung
Knowing that the device is qualcomm based gives me hope that it may get CM ROM
Anyway, We need some attention from more developers
Best Regards
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I'm not sure developers will bother.. But I hope they will.
I don't understand the reason for this... Qualcomm is the most popular processor manufacturer of CPUs so it'd be easier to create a ROM or edit an existing one to work on this phone... I don't understand why the exynos ones are getting more attention.

Iamhady said:
I'm not sure developers will bother.. But I hope they will.
I don't understand the reason for this... Qualcomm is the most popular processor manufacturer of CPUs so it'd be easier to create a ROM or edit an existing one to work on this phone... I don't understand why the exynos ones are getting more attention.
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According to https://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ MSM8228 board is used by Samsung G800H (Galaxy S5 mini) and N7502. Also google shows HTC Desire 816 Dual Sim based on the same board and looks like that's all. But these other devices already have custom roms.

Please build a ROM for sm n7502 dual sim variant

Alright A NEW LG K10 Design in 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsUIsJnQqk4
This 2017 variant comes with built-in Android Nougat 7.0 OS. Unfortunately for us 2016 buyers didn't have this OS.
Watch this video. Come on K10 users of 2016, send some msg. to the official LG page. Tell them that we want the Android Nougat too. I guess it comes with a Vulkan API which is so much good for gaming.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::good::good::good::good:

For me K10 2017 looks worse than K10 2016..
I read somewhere that K10 2016 should get Nougat in February 2017 so we will see is that true

ArcherEmiya said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsUIsJnQqk4
This 2017 variant comes with built-in Android Nougat 7.0 OS. Unfortunately for us 2016 buyers didn't have this OS.
Watch this video. Come on K10 users of 2016, send some msg. to the official LG page. Tell them that we want the Android Nougat too. I guess it comes with a Vulkan API which is so much good for gaming.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::good::good::good::good:
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K series (prevously L series) is mid range phones and much variants have mediatek chipsets who doesn't share sources. Point of not sharing is that you must buy new generation phone/chipset to get newest software, so basically mid range phones lasts one year until next generation comes out with newest software (in this case K10 2107) . So there is very small chance of getting Nougat, i would like that but I don't hope too much.

But the specs are the same

ArcherEmiya said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsUIsJnQqk4
This 2017 variant comes with built-in Android Nougat 7.0 OS. Unfortunately for us 2016 buyers didn't have this OS.
Watch this video. Come on K10 users of 2016, send some msg. to the official LG page. Tell them that we want the Android Nougat too. I guess it comes with a Vulkan API which is so much good for gaming.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::good::good::good::good:
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We will be getting Nougat for sure! We have almost the same specs has LG K10 2017.

Yeah but he is right, I guess not a 100% since they say that K10 2017 has a GPU of Mali T860 which is capable of handling Vulkan API. While most of 2016 mtk variant has Mali T720 :c too bad so sad.

I need the buttons on the back panel, with the knock on function its the greatest thing ever... but i cant see it on the 2017 versions. it was the only reason i bought LG

ArcherEmiya said:
But the specs are the same
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That is the thing, they make new phone more-less with same hardware, but new software. If they make nougat for 2016 version then they will lowered selling of 2017 version.
 @gottlasz
It has unlock button on back but volume are on side.
Knock code should be there that's lg's special sign if know what I mean.

gottlasz said:
I need the buttons on the back panel, with the knock on function its the greatest thing ever... but i cant see it on the 2017 versions. it was the only reason i bought LG
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I feel you. Whenever i play music i can easily change the volume within my pocket. Just put it in ur pocket where in u can still press the button

Professor Woland said:
That is the thing, they make new phone more-less with same hardware, but new software. If they make nougat for 2016 version then they will lowered selling of 2017 version.
@gottlasz
It has unlock button on back but volume are on side.
Knock code should be there that's lg's special sign if know what I mean.
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The only reason why I like Nougat are the multi screen and Vulkan API. But 2016 has mali t720 while the 2017 has t860 which is capable of vulkan. Another thing is the metal backpanel of 2017 looks good

[NEWS] LG Spirit Getting Nougat Update

We expect these LG devices will be treated to Nougat soon:
LG G4
LG G5
LG Magna
LG Spirit
LG V10
Source: http://hub.91mobiles.com/android-nougat-update-devices-list/

I just to check at opensource.lge.com but nothing is there yet

walterfuster said:
how do you know that??
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The article does say about it.

I don't think so, but i would like it
Sent from my LG-H440n from Serbia

While this does sound great, it does sound a bit too great imo. The article doesn't say if it was announced, or even rumoured from the inside - it's just their own speculation. Nevertheless, hope it pans out.

There's no way we're getting Nougat. Also 1GB is a bit too low for Nougat. I hope I'm wrong though. I noticed that they "expect" OP2 and X to get Nougat, but it's widely known by now that they're doomed in terms of official software updates.

I don't think we're getting nougat update at all. They've released many devices after spirit with mm on them ,so they'll prioritize them first and lg never gave more than a single os update to their mid range devices.

LG Stylo 2, that phone got Nougat update, but hw is a bit same with spirit, also there are config files in kernel. They could made it as I was managed to boot Nougat on Spirit! :d

LG K10 "Novo" (Code name: M250S)

So here in Brazil LG has recently (March 2017) released the LG K10 "Novo" (Portuguese for "new"), which is a sort of second-generation K10. Unfortunately I could not find information about it on other markets, though I read a rumor that it would be released in other countries as the "LG K20". It features slightly improved hardware (1.5gh quad core processor, 2gb of RAM, NFC, double download speed, OTG USB), a major exterior redesign (the most noticeable change is that the volume buttons were moved to the side) and comes with Nougat pre-installed, with a very different interface in general.
My question is: is this phone likely to get any attention here on XDA? In case LG doesn't decide to release it in other markets, which would seem unlikely, can we still expect rooting, custom roms and other customization for this phone in the future?

FelipeFritschF said:
So here in Brazil LG has recently (March 2017) released the LG K10 "Novo" (Portuguese for "new"), which is a sort of second-generation K10. Unfortunately I could not find information about it on other markets, though I read a rumor that it would be released in other countries as the "LG K20". It features slightly improved hardware (1.5gh quad core processor, 2gb of RAM, NFC, double download speed, OTG USB), a major exterior redesign (the most noticeable change is that the volume buttons were moved to the side) and comes with Nougat pre-installed, with a very different interface in general.
My question is: is this phone likely to get any attention here on XDA? In case LG doesn't decide to release it in other markets, which would seem unlikely, can we still expect rooting, custom roms and other customization for this phone in the future?
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We can't tell anything about rooting, custom roms and stuff until it is released.

I can confidently tell you that the LG K20 is absolutely not the same phone as LG K10 Novo / LG K10 2017.
LG K20 does not appear to have NFC, has a quad core processor instead of an octa core, has a slightly lower mAh value battery, seems not to support USB OTG, is available in 32GB storage version too, and has more minor differences.
(Also it goes by the name LG K20 Plus or LG K20 V).
For the rest I must say the whole releasing logics of LG confuse me a lot with all the new editions, different names around different areas, etc.
pvineeth97 said:
We can't tell anything about rooting, custom roms and stuff until it is released.
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Well, to be fair, the phone has been released however it appears not in every region, which is what one would expect. I have no clue if they are still planning to.

LG V30 Desktop Mode Android 10

Can someone with access to Android 10 on LG V30 please try Desktop Mode, as it seems to be available in Android 10: https://m.twitch.tv/videos/539056427
This would be so cool! I am currently enjoying something similar (in terms of using the phone on a large screen keyboard mouse etc) with HP Elite X3, but the apps are limited for Windows mobile, so I would rather use the dock which came with HP for my LG V30...

I am currently on Android 9, everything works well so far, I would rather not reinstall everything (by trying Android 10) only to find out that something does not work. The video shows it working on V50, no guarantee that it will work on our V30.

Official android 10 for v30 never happend so...

Dizzyrul3z said:
Official android 10 for v30 never happend so...
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And never will happen.
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a_petrov303 said:
Can someone with access to Android 10 on LG V30 please try Desktop Mode, as it seems to be available in Android 10: https://m.twitch.tv/videos/539056427
This would be so cool! I am currently enjoying something similar (in terms of using the phone on a large screen keyboard mouse etc) with HP Elite X3, but the apps are limited for Windows mobile, so I would rather use the dock which came with HP for my LG V30...
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You are talking about LG stock firmware feature for Android 10. We don't have that and never will.
It's not just vanilla "Android 10". Maybe AOSP devs can add that feature in their "Android 10" ROMs?

I am not a developer, just was able to follow ChazzMat's guide to get Pie and root..
So, if something is not officially provided by LG for V30, it cannot be ported from its younger brother, V50?
I really don't know, is that what you are saying?

I thought lg confirmed android v10 for v30s? Or way it just from some random blog?

xd4d3v said:
I thought lg confirmed android v10 for v30s? Or way it just from some random blog?
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Yeah, random blog thing where they don't really know what they are talking about. I read that months ago and got excited, then re-read it and realized they didn't quote any LG sources -- it was their own speculation based on flawed reasoning.
LG V30 (all variants) launched with Nougat and get the two OS upgrades LG always gives. Oreo. Pie.
Plus LG signed Google Enterprise Recommended Device agreement which promised 90 day security updates for two years + one OS update. However, that agreement was predicated on being on Oreo. So, that OS update would be Pie. Once on Oreo, we did start getting more timely updates for awhile and now MOST have Pie. (A few still don't.) Maybe once everyone gets on Pie we will start getting 90 day security updates again? But the two year window ends around mid-year 2020, if the clock started once on Oreo.
The flawed reasoning of that blog for Android 10 was because ONE V30 variant was released in 2018 with Oreo: V30S. So, they thought since the 2018 G7 and V40 are getting Android 10, that the V30S would also. NO.
The V30S was a marketing gimmick by LG to try to compete with the early 2018 Galaxy S9/S9+ which had the new Snapdragon 845. Samsung had exclusive rights to that for a few months. So, LG re-released Snapdragon V30+ with 6GB RAM (and Oreo) and tried to claim it was a "new" phone with "ThinQ" AI cam! It wasn't. It was merely V30 updated to Oreo prior to going on sale vs all the other V30 which then got the SAME "ThinQ" Oreo update a couple months later. All V30 on Oreo or later are ThinQ -- V30S was just first. The only difference for the V30S is it has more RAM.
V30S was RELEASED with Oreo already installed -- but was not LAUNCHED with Oreo. If it was LAUNCHED with Oreo it would have Treble. All NEW phones with Oreo (or later) are required to have Treble. V30S does NOT have Treble, nor does any V30 have Treble. Besides the name (V30S) this lack of Treble proves the V30S was an already-existing phone not bound by Oreo requirements for new phones.
Yet, the 2018 G7, V35, V40 all have Treble because they were indeed new phones LAUNCHED with Oreo. Those three phones are eligible for Pie and Android 10. (They already have Pie.)
2018 V30S is a remodeled house, not a brand new house. It's still a V30 "Joan" Snapdragon 835 phone -- a series which LAUNCHED with Nougat and has received all the OS updates promised to it.
Having said that, there's no law that says LG can't give Android 10 to any phone they wish -- V10, V20, V30... But LG doesn't make any money creating, testing, rolling out updates for old phones. They make money selling new phones.
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a_petrov303 said:
I am not a developer, just was able to follow ChazzMat's guide to get Pie and root..
So, if something is not officially provided by LG for V30, it cannot be ported from its younger brother, V50?
I really don't know, is that what you are saying?
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Yes, possibly devs can port that LG stock firmware feature to AOSP LOS-17/Android 10 ROMs for the V30.
I'm not a dev either.