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Alright A NEW LG K10 Design in 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsUIsJnQqk4
This 2017 variant comes with built-in Android Nougat 7.0 OS. Unfortunately for us 2016 buyers didn't have this OS.
Watch this video. Come on K10 users of 2016, send some msg. to the official LG page. Tell them that we want the Android Nougat too. I guess it comes with a Vulkan API which is so much good for gaming.
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For me K10 2017 looks worse than K10 2016..
I read somewhere that K10 2016 should get Nougat in February 2017 so we will see is that true

ArcherEmiya said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsUIsJnQqk4
This 2017 variant comes with built-in Android Nougat 7.0 OS. Unfortunately for us 2016 buyers didn't have this OS.
Watch this video. Come on K10 users of 2016, send some msg. to the official LG page. Tell them that we want the Android Nougat too. I guess it comes with a Vulkan API which is so much good for gaming.
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K series (prevously L series) is mid range phones and much variants have mediatek chipsets who doesn't share sources. Point of not sharing is that you must buy new generation phone/chipset to get newest software, so basically mid range phones lasts one year until next generation comes out with newest software (in this case K10 2107) . So there is very small chance of getting Nougat, i would like that but I don't hope too much.

But the specs are the same

ArcherEmiya said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsUIsJnQqk4
This 2017 variant comes with built-in Android Nougat 7.0 OS. Unfortunately for us 2016 buyers didn't have this OS.
Watch this video. Come on K10 users of 2016, send some msg. to the official LG page. Tell them that we want the Android Nougat too. I guess it comes with a Vulkan API which is so much good for gaming.
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We will be getting Nougat for sure! We have almost the same specs has LG K10 2017.

Yeah but he is right, I guess not a 100% since they say that K10 2017 has a GPU of Mali T860 which is capable of handling Vulkan API. While most of 2016 mtk variant has Mali T720 :c too bad so sad.

I need the buttons on the back panel, with the knock on function its the greatest thing ever... but i cant see it on the 2017 versions. it was the only reason i bought LG

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But the specs are the same
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That is the thing, they make new phone more-less with same hardware, but new software. If they make nougat for 2016 version then they will lowered selling of 2017 version.
 @gottlasz
It has unlock button on back but volume are on side.
Knock code should be there that's lg's special sign if know what I mean.

gottlasz said:
I need the buttons on the back panel, with the knock on function its the greatest thing ever... but i cant see it on the 2017 versions. it was the only reason i bought LG
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I feel you. Whenever i play music i can easily change the volume within my pocket. Just put it in ur pocket where in u can still press the button

Professor Woland said:
That is the thing, they make new phone more-less with same hardware, but new software. If they make nougat for 2016 version then they will lowered selling of 2017 version.
@gottlasz
It has unlock button on back but volume are on side.
Knock code should be there that's lg's special sign if know what I mean.
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The only reason why I like Nougat are the multi screen and Vulkan API. But 2016 has mali t720 while the 2017 has t860 which is capable of vulkan. Another thing is the metal backpanel of 2017 looks good

[NEWS] LG Spirit Getting Nougat Update

We expect these LG devices will be treated to Nougat soon:
LG G4
LG G5
LG Magna
LG Spirit
LG V10
Source: http://hub.91mobiles.com/android-nougat-update-devices-list/

I just to check at opensource.lge.com but nothing is there yet

walterfuster said:
how do you know that??
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The article does say about it.

I don't think so, but i would like it
Sent from my LG-H440n from Serbia

While this does sound great, it does sound a bit too great imo. The article doesn't say if it was announced, or even rumoured from the inside - it's just their own speculation. Nevertheless, hope it pans out.

There's no way we're getting Nougat. Also 1GB is a bit too low for Nougat. I hope I'm wrong though. I noticed that they "expect" OP2 and X to get Nougat, but it's widely known by now that they're doomed in terms of official software updates.

I don't think we're getting nougat update at all. They've released many devices after spirit with mm on them ,so they'll prioritize them first and lg never gave more than a single os update to their mid range devices.

LG Stylo 2, that phone got Nougat update, but hw is a bit same with spirit, also there are config files in kernel. They could made it as I was managed to boot Nougat on Spirit! :d

LG Update History Myth

I have seen a lot of people say that they would not get the V30 or any LG phone because they suck at updates. I knew this was not entirely true from when I owned a G3 the updates were actually pretty good. I remember specifically the G3 being the first non-Google phone to get Lollipop update.
So I thought maybe their updates have gotten worse and decided to do some research. The best way to tell how good updates will be in the V30 is to see how the updates were on the V phone which has been out for a good while. Of course that's the V10. So here are my findings of the update history for the V10 which will likely indicate how the V30 updates will be.
Unlocked models:
Released November 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 March 2016
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017
Latest Security Patch September 2017 or possibly newer
T-Mobile model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017
Latest Security Patch September 2017
AT&T model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today
Verizon
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on March 2016
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today
CONCLUSION: past updates for the V10 released 2 years ago shows if you buy a V30 on T-Mobile or unlocked version then you will receive updates and security patches for up to 2 years. If you purchase on Verizon or AT&T then updates will only be for about 1 year.
So from this actually LG is very good with updates!! People just think they are not because it is Verizon and AT&T who are the ones holding back updates.
Also 1 additional note, the V10 was never released on Sprint, but the V30+ was, and Sprint has a very good update history. So the V30+ will likely receive 2 years of updates on Sprint too. Unfortunately their network is the worst.
Hopefully this clears up the myth that LG doesn't update their phones. The only thing they are bad at is taking a few months to release the update after Google has released the update (which most companies do), but they do still push out the updates for 2 years. It's the 2 biggest carriers Verizon and AT&T that do not, or at least did not with the V10. Therefore giving the perception LG is bad at updates when theyre not.

You forgot the H870 which is still on July patch, same happened with G5 H850 last year.
LG is good with major updates for speed, for patches and minor updates is one of the worst.
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Just realized that all those data are about the V10... Why? Use more recent phones for right comparison at least, anyway you can sum up the LG updates year like this:
- Release-November: One update for two months
- November-December: Major update
- January-end of the updates: random

Just curious, what's so important about not getting security updates? What would happen if we don't receive it?
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

melihcarter said:
Just curious, what's so important about not getting security updates? What would happen if we don't receive it?
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Nothing, your device will be vulnerable to some vulnerabilities, which 99% of times are nothing urgent, but krack is something dangerous

Killua96 said:
Nothing, your device will be vulnerable to some vulnerabilities, which 99% of times are nothing urgent, but krack is something dangerous
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Thank you for clarifying, now I'm on htc m9, don't remember the last time I got one
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

melihcarter said:
Thank you for clarifying, now I'm on htc m9, don't remember the last time I got one
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Probably because you're out of the 2 years support xD

my sister LG G5 last android security update is on Apr 2017.
suck at update? you bet.

As we said, horrible. Especially the Nougat (7.0) updates.
Nougat 7.0 was released by Google in August 2016.
Oreo 8.0 was released by Google in August 2017.
So, those LG V10 phones below that got Nougat in July 2017 had to wait 11 months (July 2017) after Google released Nougat in August 2016, to get it on their phones -- just one month before Oreo 8.0 was released by Google. Some of the LG V10 phones still have never received it -- over 14 months now? Even for those who got Nougat, it shouldn't take 11 months after OS release for an LG flagship phone to get that version. And those that never got it?
When Nougat 7.0 was released in August 2016, the V10 was LESS than 1 year old, having been released in October 2015. When Nougat was released in August 2016, the V20 had not yet been released. It was STILL the newest, most current "V" by LG. See what I mean?
The 2016 LG V20 was LAUNCHED with Nougat on board. But for some reason the LG V10 didn't get Nougat until almost a year after that -- July 2017.
I'm buying a carrier unlocked model, so there's no excuses about ROM OS updates. Those updates will come straight from LG. I hope they do better with the LG V30. I'll be rooted, running a custom ROM -- but to keep DAC and full camera features it may have to be stock-based custom ROM. That worries me...
AndroidPurity said:
I have seen a lot of people say that they would not get the V30 or any LG phone because they suck at updates. I knew this was not entirely true from when I owned a G3 the updates were actually pretty good. I remember specifically the G3 being the first non-Google phone to get Lollipop update.
So I thought maybe their updates have gotten worse and decided to do some research. The best way to tell how good updates will be in the V30 is to see how the updates were on the V phone which has been out for a good while. Of course that's the V10. So here are my findings of the update history for the V10 which will likely indicate how the V30 updates will be.
Unlocked US model:
Released November 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 March 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017 (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Why 11 months for a phone less than 2 years old?)
Latest Security Patch September 2017 or possibly newer
T-Mobile model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017 (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Why 11 months for a phone less than 2 years old?)
Latest Security Patch September 2017
AT&T model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Where's Nougat for the past year?)
Verizon
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on March 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Where's Nougat for the past year?)
CONCLUSION: past updates for the V10 released 2 years ago shows if you buy a V30 on T-Mobile or unlocked version then you will receive updates and security patches for up to 2 years. If you purchase on Verizon or AT&T then updates will only be for about 1 year.
So from this actually LG is very good with updates!! People just think they are not because it is Verizon and AT&T who are the ones holding back updates.
Also 1 additional note, the V10 was never released on Sprint, but the V30+ was, and Sprint has a very good update history. So the V30+ will likely receive 2 years of updates on Sprint too. Unfortunately their network is the worst.
Hopefully this clears up the myth that LG doesn't update their phones. The only thing they are bad at is taking a few months to release the update after Google has released the update (which most companies do), but they do still push out the updates for 2 years. It's the 2 biggest carriers Verizon and AT&T that do not, or at least did not with the V10. Therefore giving the perception LG is bad at updates when theyre not.
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Killua96 said:
You forgot the H870 which is still on July patch, same happened with G5 H850 last year.
LG is good with major updates for speed, for patches and minor updates is one of the worst.
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Just realized that all those data are about the V10... Why? Use more recent phones for right comparison at least, anyway you can sum up the LG updates year like this:
- Release-November: One update for two months
- November-December: Major update
- January-end of the updates: random
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I used the V10 instead of V20 because it's been out for 2 years. Therefore it is the only V phone released that can give us an update what updates will be like for 2 years. The V20 can only give us 1 year of update history to look at for comparison.
mclairs said:
my sister LG G5 last android security update is on Apr 2017.
suck at update? you bet.
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Yeah but which carrier? If it is At&t or Verizon, then that's why. That's not LG's fault because LG has released other updates since then.
ChazzMatt said:
As we said, horrible. Especially the Nougat (7.0) updates.
Nougat 7.0 was released by Google in August 2016.
Oreo 8.0 was released by Google in August 2017.
So, those LG V10 phones below that got Nougat in July 2017 had to wait 11 months (July 2017) after Google released Nougat in August 2016, to get it on their phones -- just one month before Oreo 8.0 was released by Google. Some of the LG V10 phones still have never received it -- over 14 months now? Even for those who got Nougat, it shouldn't take 11 months after OS release for an LG flagship phone to get that version. And those that never got it?
When Nougat 7.0 was released in August 2016, the V10 was LESS than 1 year old, having been released in October 2015. When Nougat was released in August 2016, the V20 had not yet been released. It was STILL the newest, most current "V" by LG. See what I mean?
The 2016 LG V20 was LAUNCHED with Nougat on board. But for some reason the LG V10 didn't get Nougat until almost a year after that -- July 2017.
I'm buying a carrier unlocked model, so there's no excuses about ROM OS updates. Those updates will come straight from LG. I hope they do better with the LG V30. I'll be rooted, running a custom ROM -- but to keep DAC and full camera features it may have to be stock-based custom ROM. That worries me...
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Technically LG released 7.0 in May 2017 for unlocked in Korea. But then it took T-Mobile another 3 months. So only 8 months can technically be blamed on LG, which yes is still way too long. Also you can't use "some​ of the V10s" not getting the update, as a excuse why LG is bad with updates. Any day passed the day LG updates the unlocked model, then those days or months can only be blamed on the carrier the phone came from.
Also keep in mind the unlocked V20 and the t-mobile V20 are on the 2nd newest security update right now, September 2017. Something I didn't mention in my original post. So that's a really good sign too.
Although yes, I totally do not blame you from buying unlocked. It is the fastest with updates. However surprisingly T-Mobile is able to usually be right behind with in a month of LG.
So in summary LG updates their flagships with updates for 2 years! Except they can lag months behind in pushing out the updates. Hopefully with V30 being the most popular V phone yet this will make them more eager to push out the updates faster.

AndroidPurity said:
Also you can't use "some​ of the V10s" not getting the update, as a excuse why LG is bad with updates. Any day passed the day LG updates the unlocked model, then those days or months can only be blamed on the carrier the phone came from.
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I used exactly the same examples you gave, and your examples are 11 months and "never" for Nougat.
There's no excuse for "11 months" (from LG for carrier unlocked version) to "never" (even if carriers may be partly to blame) for a flagship phone, when it was still the only "V" phone when Nougat was released, and the V20 launched with Nougat.
If you don't want to use carrier examples, why do you cite them yourself?
But when LG's behavior to the carrier unlocked version for the Nougat update is very bad.
If following the same timeline as the V10, we'll get Oreo when March 2018?
Peach Pie in July 2019?

AndroidPurity said:
Yeah but which carrier? If it is At&t or Verizon, then that's why. That's not LG's fault because LG has released other updates since then.
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international version.

ChazzMatt said:
I used exactly the same examples you gave, and your examples are 11 months and "never" for Nougat.
There's no excuse for "11 months" (from LG for carrier unlocked version) to "never" (even if carriers may be partly to blame) for a flagship phone, when it was still the only "V" phone when Nougat was released, and the V20 launched with Nougat.
If you don't want to use carrier examples, why do you cite them yourself?
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Multiple reasons! It was for comparison purposes. To demonstrate in the case of V10 not getting the 7.0, then it was carrier faults. Also for comparison to demonstrate LG pushed out updates a little faster than carriers. Also to compare each carrier to show which carrier was the fastest with updates. But not used to put blame on LG, because LG has no control over when the carrier updates once they give out the update of the unlocked version.
Lastly it wasn't 11 months, it was technically 8 months for unlocked version. My original post it was a mistake, i changed it from July to May. Articles announce the unlocked update May 2017. Although yes 8 months is still​ way too long. I never seen LG take that long for a major update though. So maybe it was a fluke.
ChazzMatt said:
But when LG's behavior to the carrier unlocked version for the Nougat update is very bad.
If following the same timeline as the V10, we'll get Oreo when March 2018?
Peach Pie in July 2019?
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Haha! Yeah that's pretty accurate if you go based off the V10. However when the V20 gets Oreo will be a sign as to how fast we will get Android P. So keep an eye out for that.
Overall LG is far from the worst manufacturer​ with updates, but also far from the best. They are about middle of the pack. However when a device sells well (such as the V30 seems to be) it encourages companies to be faster with updates and support because theres way more people to disappoint.
For example my girlfriend's Sony Z3 from T-Mobile back in the day stopped updates after 5.0 when Sony went to at least 6.0. T-Mobile explained to me it was because they didn't sell much of the devices, so its not worth their time and money to invest research and development for updates of a phone that sold much less than other phones. That makes sense from a business perspective and that is the way these phone companies think.
So with that in mind I think its safe to say the V30 is going to be the best selling V phone so far. Possibly even sell close to as much as the G6. Especially if they drop the price about $200 in early 2018. So that increases the chances of LG wanting to develop more time and resources into the device because it's selling so well!

AndroidPurity said:
Lastly it wasn't 11 months, it was technically 8 months for unlocked version. My original post it was a mistake, i changed it from July to May. Articles announce the unlocked update May 2017. Although yes 8 months is still​ way too long. I never seen LG take that long for a major update though. So maybe it was a fluke.
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Your original post shows U.S. unlocked got Nougat in July 2017. I live in U.S.and will be buying U.S.carrier unlocked version.
Do you have a link showing the corrected date?
And yes, Motorola is very bad with updates too. I'm only on Nougat because of custom ROM.

ChazzMatt said:
Your original post shows U.S. unlocked got Nougat in July 2017. I live in U.S.and will be buying U.S.carrier unlocked version.
Do you have a link showing the corrected date?
And yes, Motorola is very bad with updates too. I'm only on Nougat because of custom ROM.
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Yep! 3 unlocked v10 models received the nougat update may 2017. I corrected my original post to may.
Here is the link ans it list the 3 model numbers that got it in may. Again still a long time, but 3 months earlier than the only carrier that updated it.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V10-starts-receiving-the-Android-7.0-Nougat-update_id94415

CHAZZ, the speaker of truths!
this honestly was my hesitation in picking up the V30. my previous phone was the Nexus 6P and I LOVED being able to install the newest latest and greatest as soon as it dropped.
Phone manufactures really are doing themselves a disservice by not just dropping a vanilla ROM update asap and a branded OS as they see fit. They could simply omit those fancy features they bake into their ROMs.
Phone manufactures, want consumers to buy their phones for the experience...why?...why not attract consumers for the phone itself as well as the "experience". At that point you'll have 2 lines of consumers ready to buy your product. It's like when HTC? initially released some phones, they had their carrier branded phones that were spiffied up, and you could register that phone for for a developer account allowing you to install vanilla Android.

AndroidPurity said:
Yep! 3 unlocked v10 models received the nougat update may 2017. I corrected my original post to may.
Here is the link ans it list the 3 model numbers that got it in may. Again still a long time, but 3 months earlier than the only carrier that updated it.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V10-starts-receiving-the-Android-7.0-Nougat-update_id94415
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Hmmm.. As you said, only South Korea models got it in May. Those are carrier models, sold in South Korea. Everyone else got it later.
The only caveat is the update is now being deployed in South Korea only.
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The official carrier unlocked version -- which is eligible for bootloader unlock code -- is not the same as those three South Korea carrier models.
I'm curious when the official carrier unlocked version got it. This model, which is listed on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.
LG V10 H960A
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
And the answer is July 14, 2017:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/general/official-software-h960a-v30b-nougat-t3636552/page1
So, your original email was correct, it was 11 months after Nougat was released before the official carrier unlocked version got the update.

I think since LG is including that two year warranty with most of our purchases on T-Mobile (thanks to the promo), I'd think we will see updates during that period.
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I was on the fence about keeping my pixel xl 2 or going with v30, this thread helped me make up my mind thanks

capsnbottles said:
I was on the fence about keeping my pixel xl 2 or going with v30, this thread helped me make up my mind thanks
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Well, with root (on the bootloader unlocked models) you can have custom ROMs. There will be plenty of dev work. The LG V30 will probably get Oreo ROMs before LG officially releases Oreo. This discussion is just if you want LG updates.
I'm just concerned about DAC and camera features. So, I may have to stay on stock-based ROM (debloated, tweaked, rooted), instead of LOS-based ROM. I don't know enough information yet.

ChazzMatt said:
Well, with root (on the bootloader unlocked models) you can have custom ROMs. There will be plenty of dev work. The LG V30 will probably get Oreo ROMs before LG officially releases Oreo. This discussion is just if you want LG updates.
I'm just concerned about DAC and camera features. So, I may have to stay on stock-based ROM, instead of LOS-based ROM. I don't know enough information yet.
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I'm not familiar with rooting and roms with lg. I've only done that with Nexus and pixel devices. Are they similar processes? Pixels and Nexus was very easy

Oreo will be coming around june.. on the g5+

https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS129979
This is for g5s+ but the g5+ shouldn't be left far behind

Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.

pradsngh523 said:
Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.
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It will still be 32 bit. But we need those blobs yes.

Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.

echo92 said:
Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.
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i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out

M1810 said:
i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out
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So long as you're prepared for the possibility of major, possibly device breaking bugs and having to be very careful if you wanted to downgrade back to Nougat (we've got enough bricked devices as it is)... It should be fun, just be careful

A jump is nice. Directly to 8.1 Let's see how much time it would take

I disagree that we will see an upgrade in June... Let's break it down a bit as to why:
Honestly, look at the history of the Oreo upgrade for the G5S+, it has been in beta/soak for almost 5 months. It started in late January, I can provide references but Google will work easily enough here if you don't believe me, and there are verified users getting the initial beta in early February. Although I haven't seen a screenshot of the released version, I am told it has the May security update, meaning the final build was likely early to mid-May... So conservatively that process took 4 months from initial beta test to release.
OK, so a tad longer than most Moto upgrades, but not uncommon as anywhere from 30 to 100 days from initial beta/soak to release is normal. We have seen this process be no shorter than 30 days, although 60 would be "typical", but we have seen it take in excess of 8 months (in the case of Nougat for the Moto X Style/Pure before full release, for example).
Now jump to our device, the G5+... there is no confirmed users with a beta or soak yet, not even semi-substantiated or reputable rumors of it occurring yet in ANY market. Not even confirmation of MFN users getting emails to sign up for the beta test. Plug in the previous numbers and we are looking at a release no earlier than late July, but most likely in September and possibly even later.
Again, this is all guess work and looking at history and my personal knowledge through having Moto devices for a very long time, so I could be wrong... in fact, I hope I am wrong.
Plus, let's not forget this device is already 15 months old (released March 2017), and this puts Oreo release at an age of 18+ months, something Lenovo's Moto has done before for devices this age, but also at an age they have cancelled upgrades (not updates) on other devices at this age as well. Although I don't think they will cancel it, it is a remote possibility to keep in mind.
Just my 2 cents worth... take it as you wish.

Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.

cpm said:
Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.
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Just curious, what have you seen to show the rollout is happening? I've not seen any OTA reports and the update page for the 8.1 Oreo was taken down (or I can't access it at any rate).

Just Google it (moto g5s plus oreo) and see all the reports from the last 12 hours. Eg BGR, Android Police
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/30/android-8-1-oreo-rolling-moto-g5s-plus/
Edit : seems like the articles reference a Motorola update info page that has since been taken down.
Perhaps it went up prematurely?!

Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)

preetvardhan said:
Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)
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well, at least we know that the 8.1 release note was for a soak test.. so oreo is on it's way and as soon as the soal test leaks you all will be able to install it
Now the thing is what is going to happen with the G5 plus non S?

https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June

orvon.freeman said:
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June
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*Maybe coming*
Unfortunately, we have seen these "release notes" posted many times and the associated update never appears on devices.
But since we won't get Oreo for several months, if at all, we will probably see the update.

Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!

LiteSoul said:
Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!
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I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8632026 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277398&postcount=28 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?

echo92 said:
I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cp...pers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?
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Oreo is able to run on 32bit systems, as you quoted, it does on the Z Play. As changing from 32 to 64bit needs a complete wipe no OEM will change that with an OTA update. Motorola knew what devices are running which OS and they wouldn't have announced Oreo for Moto G5 and G5+.
Some people just don't have the correct informations.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs

Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.

psychopac said:
Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.
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by the month of november all our warranties will be over and custom rom's bugs will probably be all fixed.. also treble is in a good development state, so we would not need support from motorola anymore.. i don't think it's worthed waiting that long..

Android 12 coming to V50 in next few weeks

[SW 개선] 2022년 2분기 SW업데이트 계획 (‘22. 3월) > SW 알리미 | LG전자 고객지원
LG전자 서비스 SW 알리미로 '[SW 개선] 2022년 2분기 SW업데이트 계획 (‘22. 3월)' 대해 확인해 보세요. 최신 소프트웨어 업데이트와 사용방법을 제공합니다.
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These LG phones are still getting Android 12 this quarter
LG may have exited the smartphone industry, but it's continuing to deliver updates. These phones will receive Android 12 in Q2.
www.androidauthority.com
LG’s Android 12 rollout finally begins with the mid-range Velvet
It may take at least a few weeks for the update to become available globally.
www.androidcentral.com
Even though it is the biggest pile of crap phone I've ever owned - still good news.
Matt

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[SW 개선] 2022년 2분기 SW업데이트 계획 (‘22. 3월) > SW 알리미 | LG전자 고객지원
LG전자 서비스 SW 알리미로 '[SW 개선] 2022년 2분기 SW업데이트 계획 (‘22. 3월)' 대해 확인해 보세요. 최신 소프트웨어 업데이트와 사용방법을 제공합니다.
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These LG phones are still getting Android 12 this quarter
LG may have exited the smartphone industry, but it's continuing to deliver updates. These phones will receive Android 12 in Q2.
www.androidauthority.com
LG’s Android 12 rollout finally begins with the mid-range Velvet
It may take at least a few weeks for the update to become available globally.
www.androidcentral.com
Even though it is the biggest pile of crap phone I've ever owned - still good news.
Matt
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It wouldn't be a bad phone if there was an iota of development for it. The V30 was God. This phone....ugh

Funny u should mention the c39....I'm bidding on pone now..lol
I LOVED the v30

It's may 23rd, and no A12 while prev/next weeks)))

what is A12?

trust me.....im on beta android 12 now

A12 - is Android 12.
But nothing special. My wife is beta tester too, and I already know what's inside LG A12 to make new stock-based rom at A12 for v50.
As for you words, you tell that it takes few weeks, but it's month gone, when my data is end of may.for stable release at V50.

Android 12 update have arrived LG v50 south Korean variant

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Android 12 update have arrived LG v50 south Korean variant
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Means LG G8 is next...