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Got a new update for my K10-420ds. Just added an emergency button on power off screen a narrower notification panel and just some tweaks and supposedly updates to 5.1.1. I think this might be the final update for this phone. Just wanted to let you know. Does this mean that now the bootloader is unlock able?

sammessi10 said:
Got a new update for my K10-420ds. Just added an emergency button on power off screen a narrower notification panel and just some tweaks and supposedly updates to 5.1.1. I think this might be the final update for this phone. Just wanted to let you know. Does this mean that now the bootloader is unlock able?
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Wait, what? Some ok K10's are still on lollipop?

sammessi10 said:
Got a new update for my K10-420ds. Just added an emergency button on power off screen a narrower notification panel and just some tweaks and supposedly updates to 5.1.1. I think this might be the final update for this phone. Just wanted to let you know. Does this mean that now the bootloader is unlock able?
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Seems like you are late buddy. I already posted about the update long back. I also uploaded the firmware file if you ever need to refresh your phone.
Nougat will be coming for the phone according to some news articles.

pvineeth97 said:
Seems like you are late buddy. I already posted about the update long back. I also uploaded the firmware file if you ever need to refresh your phone.
Nougat will be coming for the phone according to some news articles.
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I am sorry but what you are trying to say is Snap 410 models of K10 are gonna be updated to Nougat? I've seen the article but upon asking the same to the CC, they just say that they are not allowed the disclose unlike Samsung who just said that my J7 Prime is gonna get a Nougat update and If at all they are gonna release an update for K10's, it would definitely be for the MTK models. I dont know to any extent but is it really possible to directly upgrade from Lollipop to Nougat. Just not so knowledgable in this Upgrade stuff.

sammessi10 said:
I am sorry but what you are trying to say is Snap 410 models of K10 are gonna be updated to Nougat? I've seen the article but upon asking the same to the CC, they just say that they are not allowed the disclose unlike Samsung who just said that my J7 Prime is gonna get a Nougat update and If at all they are gonna release an update for K10's, it would definitely be for the MTK models. I dont know to any extent but is it really possible to directly upgrade from Lollipop to Nougat. Just not so knowledgable in this Upgrade stuff.
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Yup this update N would be for MTK variants only. Why? because the LGk10 2017 is MTK variant only. Probably the Nougat which is built-in in 2017 will just ported to MTK 2016 variant like k430dsy

ArcherEmiya said:
Yup this update N would be for MTK variants only. Why? because the LGk10 2017 is MTK variant only. Probably the Nougat which is built-in in 2017 will just ported to MTK 2016 variant like k430dsy
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No not true bro. Most of the Qualcomm based phones have higher RAM like K420DS (Indian Variant) has 2 GB RAM and I believe that they will release Nougat for Qualcomm too.
As you know they always release new updates to Korean variants first.
Korean variants are : F670L,S etc. They have Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 same as other Qualcomm models except LG MS428. So I believe strongly it will be released for Qualcomm soon!
Keep looking here for new "Nougat" updates: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=nougat

Hey guys. I have an AT&T lg k10 ( build number mxb48t). Does my phone have an MTK chipset (In other words, will I get an nougat update)?Also, do you know if there's and method available for a root? I have 6.0.1

Nobodyslight said:
Hey guys. I have an AT&T lg k10 ( build number mxb48t). Does my phone have an MTK chipset (In other words, will I get an nougat update)?Also, do you know if there's and method available for a root? I have 6.0.1
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Download app "AIDA 64" tap on cpu, and you will have listed cpu socket.
And no you will most likely not get nougat, none of 2016 models will. Specially mediatek versions, because of they are mediatek.

Professor Woland said:
Download app "AIDA 64" tap on cpu, and you will have listed cpu socket.
And no you will most likely not get nougat, none of 2016 models will. Specially mediatek versions, because of they are mediatek.
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Why do you say none of the 2016's will?

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Why do you say none of the 2016's will?
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Because you don't launch next generation of phones if you are going to update software on last generation. Especially when is case of mid-range phones. Mid range phones are made to 'be' one year, then new generation comes up with new software and so on.. One more thing, phones that aren't flagships and have mtk chipset - the one that got any software update are rare (you can say that isn't any out there)

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Because you don't launch next generation of phones if you are going to update software on last generation. Especially when is case of mid-range phones. Mid range phones are made to 'be' one year, then new generation comes up with new software and so on.. One more thing, phones that aren't flagships and have mtk chipset - the one that got any software update are rare (you can say that isn't any out there)
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But wouldn't you think that that Snapdragon editions would feature at least 7.0? I mean some of the components that make the 2017 K10 "new" aren't involving the software. It's mainly the hardware. A fingerprint sensor, better battery, and expanded ram are what would pull for an upgrade. I agree that the MTK variants are out of the question, but I feel like nougat isn't to far of a stretch for the Snapdragons

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But wouldn't you think that that Snapdragon editions would feature at least 7.0? I mean some of the components that make the 2017 K10 "new" aren't involving the software. It's mainly the hardware. A fingerprint sensor, better battery, and expanded ram are what would pull for an upgrade. I agree that the MTK variants are out of the question, but I feel like nougat isn't to far of a stretch for the Snapdragons
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Yes, there are new hardware things, but not big deal only fingerprint sensor the rest is just better version so it handles nougat smooth. I don't think that they will give nougat for just a half or ¼ devices (I don't know how many % are snapdragon versions) that's logic you must agree.

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Yes, there are new hardware things, but not big deal only fingerprint sensor the rest is just better version so it handles nougat smooth. I don't think that they will give nougat for just a half or ¼ devices (I don't know how many % are snapdragon versions) that's logic you must agree.
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I see what you mean, but the percentage that are snapdragon are the major carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc). I just attempt a hopeful opinion on nougat. I mean look how long the Nexus 7 was supported.

Nobodyslight said:
I see what you mean, but the percentage that are snapdragon are the major carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc). I just attempt a hopeful opinion on nougat. I mean look how long the Nexus 7 was supported.
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You can't compare any nexus or pixel device to any other phone when it's about software especially how long they maintains it.

pvineeth97 said:
No not true bro. Most of the Qualcomm based phones have higher RAM like K420DS (Indian Variant) has 2 GB RAM and I believe that they will release Nougat for Qualcomm too.
As you know they always release new updates to Korean variants first.
Korean variants are : F670L,S etc. They have Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 same as other Qualcomm models except LG MS428. So I believe strongly it will be released for Qualcomm soon!
Keep looking here for new "Nougat" updates: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=nougat
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The first LG K10 2017 variant has MTK SoC and Mali GPU thats why I think they just gonna release it first on MTK 2016 variant. Well good luck for all of us with this rumors I wish Android N had no compatibility issue with some previous games and wish it can have root access also.

Professor Woland said:
Because you don't launch next generation of phones if you are going to update software on last generation. Especially when is case of mid-range phones. Mid range phones are made to 'be' one year, then new generation comes up with new software and so on.. One more thing, phones that aren't flagships and have mtk chipset - the one that got any software update are rare (you can say that isn't any out there)
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I kinda agree with you sir.

I have a qualcomm snapdragon LG k10 from metro pcs you think it would ever get 7.0?

shadowwolf86 said:
I have a qualcomm snapdragon LG k10 from metro pcs you think it would ever get 7.0?
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First read posts in this thread.
Yes you can have nougat on k10 but only if you buy 2017 K10
Seriously now, since there is next gen of K series there is 0,001% chance of getting nougat, besides that there is K10's with mtk chipset which is know for not getting too much updates.

Professor Woland said:
First read posts in this thread.
Yes you can have nougat on k10 but only if you buy 2017 K10
Seriously now, since there is next gen of K series there is 0,001% chance of getting nougat, besides that there is K10's with mtk chipset which is know for not getting too much updates.
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Actually, I've been following up on the news for the 2017 K10. Its only been released in india as of now, and looking at some other phones which had a similar lifetime (being recreated with the same name), it's possible that companies like at&t may not sell this phone. And if that's the case, then the likelihood of a nougat update (from said companies) is great. Offering a low budget phone like the K10 that has the latest OS is a great way to improve sales. I also don't thinks it's a fair assumption to say that there's a 0.001% chance. At&T just updated the g5 this last week.

Update for Noughat
ArcherEmiya said:
Yup this update N would be for MTK variants only. Why? because the LGk10 2017 is MTK variant only. Probably the Nougat which is built-in in 2017 will just ported to MTK 2016 variant like k430dsy
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Hi sorry but there wont be an Noughat 7.0 update
please find attached URL:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-k10/help/news-updates-k10-t3566332

[NEWS] LG Spirit Getting Nougat Update

We expect these LG devices will be treated to Nougat soon:
LG G4
LG G5
LG Magna
LG Spirit
LG V10
Source: http://hub.91mobiles.com/android-nougat-update-devices-list/

I just to check at opensource.lge.com but nothing is there yet

walterfuster said:
how do you know that??
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The article does say about it.

I don't think so, but i would like it
Sent from my LG-H440n from Serbia

While this does sound great, it does sound a bit too great imo. The article doesn't say if it was announced, or even rumoured from the inside - it's just their own speculation. Nevertheless, hope it pans out.

There's no way we're getting Nougat. Also 1GB is a bit too low for Nougat. I hope I'm wrong though. I noticed that they "expect" OP2 and X to get Nougat, but it's widely known by now that they're doomed in terms of official software updates.

I don't think we're getting nougat update at all. They've released many devices after spirit with mm on them ,so they'll prioritize them first and lg never gave more than a single os update to their mid range devices.

LG Stylo 2, that phone got Nougat update, but hw is a bit same with spirit, also there are config files in kernel. They could made it as I was managed to boot Nougat on Spirit! :d

LG K10 "Novo" (Code name: M250S)

So here in Brazil LG has recently (March 2017) released the LG K10 "Novo" (Portuguese for "new"), which is a sort of second-generation K10. Unfortunately I could not find information about it on other markets, though I read a rumor that it would be released in other countries as the "LG K20". It features slightly improved hardware (1.5gh quad core processor, 2gb of RAM, NFC, double download speed, OTG USB), a major exterior redesign (the most noticeable change is that the volume buttons were moved to the side) and comes with Nougat pre-installed, with a very different interface in general.
My question is: is this phone likely to get any attention here on XDA? In case LG doesn't decide to release it in other markets, which would seem unlikely, can we still expect rooting, custom roms and other customization for this phone in the future?

FelipeFritschF said:
So here in Brazil LG has recently (March 2017) released the LG K10 "Novo" (Portuguese for "new"), which is a sort of second-generation K10. Unfortunately I could not find information about it on other markets, though I read a rumor that it would be released in other countries as the "LG K20". It features slightly improved hardware (1.5gh quad core processor, 2gb of RAM, NFC, double download speed, OTG USB), a major exterior redesign (the most noticeable change is that the volume buttons were moved to the side) and comes with Nougat pre-installed, with a very different interface in general.
My question is: is this phone likely to get any attention here on XDA? In case LG doesn't decide to release it in other markets, which would seem unlikely, can we still expect rooting, custom roms and other customization for this phone in the future?
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We can't tell anything about rooting, custom roms and stuff until it is released.

I can confidently tell you that the LG K20 is absolutely not the same phone as LG K10 Novo / LG K10 2017.
LG K20 does not appear to have NFC, has a quad core processor instead of an octa core, has a slightly lower mAh value battery, seems not to support USB OTG, is available in 32GB storage version too, and has more minor differences.
(Also it goes by the name LG K20 Plus or LG K20 V).
For the rest I must say the whole releasing logics of LG confuse me a lot with all the new editions, different names around different areas, etc.
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We can't tell anything about rooting, custom roms and stuff until it is released.
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Well, to be fair, the phone has been released however it appears not in every region, which is what one would expect. I have no clue if they are still planning to.

No more update

Do not by it.
The M2 will stay on 5.1, while the M3 is on 7.0
That is a shame From huawei

Pascal536 said:
Do not by it.
The M2 will stay on 5.1, while the M3 is on 7.0
That is a shame From huawei
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I wouldn't be so harsh on Huawei. They did provide a means to unlock your device. Unfortunately there isn't much in the way of after-market development at the moment. I'd be willing to give it a try but don't really know where to start, however the investigation continues...
<rant>As a side-note, Oppo takes the award for the worst company. As a R7s owner I was surprised at the length they went to stop people developing for this device, and they didn't provide any updates either. If you want to advise anyone which company to avoid, I think Oppo is at the top of the list.</rant>

Yeah it's a real shame. They promised Marshmallow and cancelled it in the end without any information to us users...
Never gonna buy a Huawei again.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Yeah it's a real shame. They promised Marshmallow and cancelled it in the end without any information to us users...
Never gonna buy a Huawei again.
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Me too

The same here!

I changed from samsung to huawei but I will never buy huawey: I had to buy a new smartphone and I was convinced to buy huawei Nova but after this deportment I will change my choice

Pascal536 said:
Do not by it.
The M2 will stay on 5.1, while the M3 is on 7.0
That is a shame From huawei
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There is an Android 6.0 update since a half year. But this don't come over OTA, right? They have canceled this? I could flash it for 6 month. Since this time there come no newer security patches. Really bad by huawei.
The update has broken some things like the launcher. I have must for the person take the settings new. Maybe that was the reason for cancel. Just flashable, no OTA, so do you mean it, right?
For M2-801L (lte-version) we have used the B206. Looks that huawei's developer had gotten no much time for this device. So no official roll out possible. For P8 Lite they roll out every month security patches. Crazy for a cheap phone.

Bye
I will go back to SAMSUNG

Pascal536 said:
I will go back to SAMSUNG
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Samsung is almost in every device My Z Play has Samsung MMC flash and Samsung RAM So far so good. Updates? LOS14.1 the best, but not so easy on Kirin
Short: Media Pad M2 and updates are dead

Pascal536 said:
I will go back to SAMSUNG
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Samsung are no better.
I have lost count of the amount of Samsung devices that I have owned that have never had more than one or two very minor updates and then been abandoned by them.
My last tablet was the Galaxy TabPRO 8.4, it was released as part of their flagship range at the time, got 3 or 4 security patches then abandoned by them - only ever had 4.4.2 which was a real shame given its good spec and awesome 2560 x 1600 screen.

I dont care about updates
You shouldn't be so harsh on huawei, because updates are only important if you play on your device. I only use it as a media device, and not for games, and I think there will be sufficient apps for it in the next 3 years. It is also important, that no update is better than ****ty update. I just changed from my Nexus 7 to Huawei mediapad, because there was an update to lollipop. beforethe update everything was smooth,now the device is lagging so hard, I wish I were able to downgrade it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/help/nexus-7-unusabable-5-1-t3110720

@Boris An sorry to correct you. But with all those newly found security breaches on the SoC level "no update" is unacceptable. I bought it because Huawei stated that they will update the M2 at least to Marshmallow. That's just ridiculous and causes an enormous fragmentation. I'm so glad that Treble has to be active and implemented on all devices delivered with an Android 8 since this year. Won't buy any device running Android 7 or lower any longer, just to show those OEM that it's time for a change. And Huawei is just dead for me. Never again. Such a bad service...
Treble can realise a better update policy across different OEMs and bring Android nearer to the best practice update policy of Apple, assuring more devices to be other latest Android version and security-patch level.
Sent from my HTC U11 using XDA Labs

DEC 5, 2017 Security Patch was just pushed out to my M2-801W

ZiCott said:
DEC 5, 2017 Security Patch was just pushed out to my M2-801W
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It's sad and ridiculous. The Premium variant is still on 5.1.1 ...
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
It's sad and ridiculous. The Premium variant is still on 5.1.1 ...
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6.0 on 801l available, but security patch just from end 2016. Very bad and there is no newer version like B206?

Will post the name, something like B010 was pushed today as a new security patch.Something like 58Mb, with device improvements and security updates.Didnt install it yet.I have the 16gb wifi version of the 10.1 inch M2.Gladly the still update it, now hoping we will ever get a newer emui.Nice tab, very nice but cant share it with my partner for example due to emui 3.1..Happy anyway!

For the M2 801l it's B208 out with march security patch and EMUI 4.0.3. Better than nothing.

Got this update last week-end:
OTA-M2-A01WV100R001C100B008_B010
This improves system stability and security, along with the newest security patches from Google.

i received the "com.huawei.android.hwouc.17784.apk" through the Yalp store, not google playstore...Is it safe to install it and try update?

LG V30 Desktop Mode Android 10

Can someone with access to Android 10 on LG V30 please try Desktop Mode, as it seems to be available in Android 10: https://m.twitch.tv/videos/539056427
This would be so cool! I am currently enjoying something similar (in terms of using the phone on a large screen keyboard mouse etc) with HP Elite X3, but the apps are limited for Windows mobile, so I would rather use the dock which came with HP for my LG V30...

I am currently on Android 9, everything works well so far, I would rather not reinstall everything (by trying Android 10) only to find out that something does not work. The video shows it working on V50, no guarantee that it will work on our V30.

Official android 10 for v30 never happend so...

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Official android 10 for v30 never happend so...
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And never will happen.
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a_petrov303 said:
Can someone with access to Android 10 on LG V30 please try Desktop Mode, as it seems to be available in Android 10: https://m.twitch.tv/videos/539056427
This would be so cool! I am currently enjoying something similar (in terms of using the phone on a large screen keyboard mouse etc) with HP Elite X3, but the apps are limited for Windows mobile, so I would rather use the dock which came with HP for my LG V30...
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You are talking about LG stock firmware feature for Android 10. We don't have that and never will.
It's not just vanilla "Android 10". Maybe AOSP devs can add that feature in their "Android 10" ROMs?

I am not a developer, just was able to follow ChazzMat's guide to get Pie and root..
So, if something is not officially provided by LG for V30, it cannot be ported from its younger brother, V50?
I really don't know, is that what you are saying?

I thought lg confirmed android v10 for v30s? Or way it just from some random blog?

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I thought lg confirmed android v10 for v30s? Or way it just from some random blog?
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Yeah, random blog thing where they don't really know what they are talking about. I read that months ago and got excited, then re-read it and realized they didn't quote any LG sources -- it was their own speculation based on flawed reasoning.
LG V30 (all variants) launched with Nougat and get the two OS upgrades LG always gives. Oreo. Pie.
Plus LG signed Google Enterprise Recommended Device agreement which promised 90 day security updates for two years + one OS update. However, that agreement was predicated on being on Oreo. So, that OS update would be Pie. Once on Oreo, we did start getting more timely updates for awhile and now MOST have Pie. (A few still don't.) Maybe once everyone gets on Pie we will start getting 90 day security updates again? But the two year window ends around mid-year 2020, if the clock started once on Oreo.
The flawed reasoning of that blog for Android 10 was because ONE V30 variant was released in 2018 with Oreo: V30S. So, they thought since the 2018 G7 and V40 are getting Android 10, that the V30S would also. NO.
The V30S was a marketing gimmick by LG to try to compete with the early 2018 Galaxy S9/S9+ which had the new Snapdragon 845. Samsung had exclusive rights to that for a few months. So, LG re-released Snapdragon V30+ with 6GB RAM (and Oreo) and tried to claim it was a "new" phone with "ThinQ" AI cam! It wasn't. It was merely V30 updated to Oreo prior to going on sale vs all the other V30 which then got the SAME "ThinQ" Oreo update a couple months later. All V30 on Oreo or later are ThinQ -- V30S was just first. The only difference for the V30S is it has more RAM.
V30S was RELEASED with Oreo already installed -- but was not LAUNCHED with Oreo. If it was LAUNCHED with Oreo it would have Treble. All NEW phones with Oreo (or later) are required to have Treble. V30S does NOT have Treble, nor does any V30 have Treble. Besides the name (V30S) this lack of Treble proves the V30S was an already-existing phone not bound by Oreo requirements for new phones.
Yet, the 2018 G7, V35, V40 all have Treble because they were indeed new phones LAUNCHED with Oreo. Those three phones are eligible for Pie and Android 10. (They already have Pie.)
2018 V30S is a remodeled house, not a brand new house. It's still a V30 "Joan" Snapdragon 835 phone -- a series which LAUNCHED with Nougat and has received all the OS updates promised to it.
Having said that, there's no law that says LG can't give Android 10 to any phone they wish -- V10, V20, V30... But LG doesn't make any money creating, testing, rolling out updates for old phones. They make money selling new phones.
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a_petrov303 said:
I am not a developer, just was able to follow ChazzMat's guide to get Pie and root..
So, if something is not officially provided by LG for V30, it cannot be ported from its younger brother, V50?
I really don't know, is that what you are saying?
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Yes, possibly devs can port that LG stock firmware feature to AOSP LOS-17/Android 10 ROMs for the V30.
I'm not a dev either.