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Both browsers on my Tilt2 (IE and Opera) seem to have some serious problems where the screen is at times unresponsive or extremely slow. This seems to happen in 3G and Wifi.
Actually, I saw these types of problems in a review at: http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/htc-tilt-2/10602.html which said: "Nowhere did the HTC Tilt 2 give us more trouble than in the browsers. Both the standard Internet Explorer browser and the Opera Mobile browser gave us serious trouble, with an unresponsive screen that always took numerous taps to register a click on a Web link. It was a very strange issue, as finger scrolling was much more responsive. But when we wanted to click on a link, or when we wanted to tap the address bar to change our URL, the phone would require multiple taps, which was a seriously annoying issue."
Have others experienced this? Is the phone a complete lemon? Is anyone aware of a what could be wrong and/or a fix?
Experiencing the exact same thing.
At stock, don't expect the TP2 to run flawlessly, and this device is certainly not a lemon. Flashing a custom rom to this device improves its usability, and even functionality in some areas, But of course, it depends on the rom that is installed. It would help to scour these forums as there are numerous fixes and enhancements for the WM platform that'll make you enjoy it
I am not expecting it to run flawlessly. I assume, as you are with T Mobile, that you do not have the Tilt2. My experience with the Tilt2 is that both browsers are just non-functional given the complete lack of responsiveness. I understand that there are many things that can be done to it, but it seems like it should simply not be operating like this out of the gate. I would be pleased to do what I can to increase performance, but purchasing a new product that is not functional with the goal of enhancing performance should not be acceptable. Please understand, that out of the box when I click on a link many times it simply does not work and when it does, it often takes minutes to connect (in some cases worse than a throw back to dial-up connection speeds). If this is what Windows Mobile has come to, as a consumer device it really will continue to become obsolete with a very small user base. I am hopeful that it is not WinMo as I have had Pocket PCs since they came out and hope to remain faithfull.
That said, I have done a considerable amount of searching in the forum. If there is something you would recommend for this specific browser issue, I would very much appreciate the reference. Thanks.
While I wouldn't say that Opera is "unusable", it's definitely slow. I've read on the forums that Opera Mobile 9.7, which is currently in beta, seems to be significantly faster. Though, it lacks Flash if you care about that sort of thing.
I haven't tried it yet but it seems like a worthwhile shot.
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While I wouldn't say that Opera is "unusable", it's definitely slow. I've read on the forums that Opera Mobile 9.7, which is currently in beta, seems to be significantly faster. Though, it lacks Flash if you care about that sort of thing.
I haven't tried it yet but it seems like a worthwhile shot.
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Do any of guys use skyfire(this by far the best option), also check the proxy setup, Third just heads up, when I was selecting diferent option packages from ATT they initially screwed up my data connect and I was getting block out of there proxy, once this was corrected all is well but Skyfire is still the best released product.
Skyfire works, but its not very clear unless you zoom in. I have Opera beta but you can't use the zoom slider and its only marginally better.
Iris (God rest its soul) is okay but its not fast either. I wonders why none of them are cutting the mustard.
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Do any of guys use skyfire(this by far the best option), also check the proxy setup, Third just heads up, when I was selecting diferent option packages from ATT they initially screwed up my data connect and I was getting block out of there proxy, once this was corrected all is well but Skyfire is still the best released product.
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I prefer not to use Skyfire because it's completely insecure. I went to my fantasy football website and found some other user's session logged in. Had I wanted to be a jerk, I could have dropped all of his good players and replaced them with players from the Detroit Lions.
Seriously, though...if you use Skyfire be very careful what sites you visit as all of the data is rendered remotely and will be seen by others.
CAVEAT before I begin: I had pretty good connection with Opera (on 3G) out of the box.
As others have said on this thread, first thing is to disable the AT&T proxy (Start\Tools\Proxy Manager\Disable Proxy -- then soft reset), unless you want to use AT&T's Media Mall and other bloatware that requires an Internet connection.
In Opera the proxy still sticks unless you manually edit the opera.ini file. See this post here for instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4771442#post4771442
I had to do this, or Opera would not connect at all under Wi-Fi. Speed also seems to be improved.
It sounds, though, that you're speaking more about screen sensitivity. It seems that you have to zoom in more (than on a Fuze, at least) to get a link to actually respond when touched. This may sound simplistic, but note that when the Tilt2 boots up for the first time (or after hard reset), it does not run through the screen-alignment process as the fuze and other phones do. Go to Start\Settings\System\Screen and do the alignment -- it helped a bit on my phone. And every little bit counts...
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I've very disappointed with the AT&T Tilt 2. I've tried several ROMs but the MS IE is slow in all of them. In some of them the Opera gets download speeds of over 1000 kbps. However, the MS IE is usually down around 300 kbps.
This is unacceptable. I used the same sim in my original AT&T Tilt 1 and I get 1200 kbps. What gives??
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My experience with the Tilt2 is that both browsers are just non-functional given the complete lack of responsiveness.
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That's been my experience, too. Even with an excellent 3G connection (a megabit usually, or close to it, and sometimes better than that), and with the AT&T proxy disabled, both Opera and IE are utterly unusable on my Tilt 2 with WM 6.5.
And I can't blame Touch-flo. I don't even use it.
As a result, I run Skyfire as my default browser unless I'm in a place where I can't get a strong 3G signal. Then I switch to Opera Mini. Both are fast enough to keep me very happy.
I've wasted too much time trying to get Opera to do anything other than annoy me. Try some cooked ROMs, or switch. Otherwise, you're wasting your time.
i agree
I dont even bother to tap the links anymore, i navigate through them using the arrow keys and then press enter. I find them completely unresponsive to taps.
concur that the browsers suck
Too bad that there isn't a safari port....
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While I wouldn't say that Opera is "unusable", it's definitely slow. I've read on the forums that Opera Mobile 9.7, which is currently in beta, seems to be significantly faster. Though, it lacks Flash if you care about that sort of thing.
just bought mine yesterday and it is un-usable taking 20-30 min. to access and sign into my ebay account is pretty much un-usable. My 8925 wasn't the fastest but I coud access the web w/o taking 2-5 min per page. I took my iphone back thinking this would be atleast as good as or better than my 8925,boy was i wrong.And now they tell me I only get one return(iphone) so I am stuck with this beautiful p.o.s.
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i also experience problem with it. My experience seem to be that if I have both IE and opera running together, it will cause the unit not responsive. So far, I kind of stuck with IE as it seem to work better than opear.
Try the Opera 10 Beta, it is masses better than Opera 9 as far as interface experience and speed. never liked IE mobile and skyfire has potential but still feels unfinished.
Opera 10 has a really nice tabbed browsing system and is finger friendly. haven't seen any responsiveness issues. The other thing to consider is what else you are running in background, is Opera 9 still running in background? it could be slowing everything else down.
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I have this situation thats hard to narrow down. Looking to see if anyone else has seen it.
This startef for me on April 6th, and continues through the update.
When visiting some web pages, the page will connect, but no data is displayed. Its obvious the page has connected. There is NO connection issue. I am connected.
Once this situation occurs, no other web page will display data. A reboot is requried.
Now, this occurs, as far as I can tell, only on certain pages, and only about 1 in 15 times. It only occurs while on WFI, and never occurs when connected only to 4g.
The pages I have had trigger this situation are:
Twitter homepage. But not in the last week.
XDA.
Has anyone else seen this? I can reproduce this everyday if I wish. It most definitely is NOT a data disconnect. But is fatal in that once it occurs, no other web page will display.
My xda page will scramble and change formating. No other page does this.
Any thoughts???
At first I figured the best I could do was test when I got home, so I wen't back to the forum list. And then it hit me! At work, using ie and no ad-block software XDA will sit and spin as certain ad site's fail to render (I just assumed it's blocked by my employer).
I don't have this problem on my phone, but then I use board-express. This never happens in Firefox or at home (where I do use ad-block software).
Could this be related? When it happens my page is all-white, and is done loading. After 5 minutes it 'pops' back to XDA.
Another question: do you experience this in mobile and desktop versions of the browser?
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At first I figured the best I could do was test when I got home, so I wen't back to the forum list. And then it hit me! At work, using ie and no ad-block software XDA will sit and spin as certain ad site's fail to render (I just assumed it's blocked by my employer).
I don't have this problem on my phone, but then I use board-express. This never happens in Firefox or at home (where I do use ad-block software).
Could this be related? When it happens my page is all-white, and is done loading. After 5 minutes it 'pops' back to XDA.
Another question: do you experience this in mobile and desktop versions of the browser?
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I would not have even thought of it as a rendering problem until I read about the Twitter page being rendered badly.
I just set the IE mobile browser to Desktop version and will be attempting to reproduce it. I cannot reproduce it on the PC at all...
It's actually a WiFi issue. I've had this problem on occasion with both my windows phones as well as my HP touchpad w/ WebOS and Android. It has something to do with certain routers holding onto a connection even when a device has dropped while in sleep mode.
I currently have a Belkin router and have had limited success in resolving it with this router. The best result I had was shortening the DHCP leasing, but still have issues on occasion.
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It's actually a WiFi issue. I've had this problem on occasion with both my windows phones as well as my HP touchpad w/ WebOS and Android. It has something to do with certain routers holding onto a connection even when a device has dropped while in sleep mode.
I currently have a Belkin router and have had limited success in resolving it with this router. The best result I had was shortening the DHCP leasing, but still have issues on occasion.
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I'm pretty sure you're right. I apparently only get the issue at home. Work...no issues. 4g no issues. I actually changed AP's yesterday at home. I had a dual band AP. Though faster, the AP was always dropping. So I put in an older Linksys and its steady. We'll see if i can dupe it with the old one.
Simple question. Is it possible for a network to block the hacked hot spot? I have fast data (though roaming on Verizon), but as of this morning, when using my computer, it will start to load the page, then just stop. I tried restoring both phone, and computer, nothing changes. I have also tried other devices, same thing. This is WHILE browsing the web from the hone while trying to load a page on the computer. Phone is fast, computer won't complete a page, or download. Anyone?
Google sites, however seem to come through fine.....
And now, today, its back to normal... Very weird...
Is anyone else having issues where anything that has to load from the internet (especially websites and photos) takes close to FOREVER on the 8.0 (5110)? Thought maybe the stock rom was borked somehow so flashed Slimkat (8.x) onto it but no change at all. Dolphin often freezes while loading websites, the Facebook app takes EONS to populate photos and even the Playstore takes AGES to load photos/icons for the apps that are available (almost the feeling of dialup). By comparison, my S3 which also has Slimkat on it (as well as the SAME versions of the FB app and Dolphin) takes close to no time at all to do all that (close to instant). I'm assuming that the amount of data each device is downloading is about the same so I don't think that has anything to do with it. Tried testing pings and traceroutes on various websites on BOTH devices and I get close to the same results on each (+/-) yet there seems like SOMETHING is bogging the Note 8.0 down when it comes to real-world (non-testing) use. It's not (router channel) interference as I've tried each on different bands and the Note keeps falling short. I'm at my wits end with this. Is there some hidden setting that I'm going to have to mess with or does this sound like a basket case?
Killed off ipv6 on my router and the problem seems to have gone away.
Now the question of course is WHY?
I haven't. Had this problem on android and not since iPhone 3g years ago in college. Here is an example - you go to, school, hospital, wherever and log in through their website. Click accept to the rules and bang u r riding waves. But 10 minutes later after not being on your phone, class is done, etc you open your browser and... U want to throw the phone - now its time to hit retry, which never works, so u have to open another page to something different than Google until the website login page comes up and you can sign in by hitting accept again. I Sat next to my wife and we tried the same pages, ate lunch, opened up and her note 2 would surf no issues, my LG g3 lost connection and had to,back to the accept/login screen. So is it a setting, LG thing, or android 4.4 thing, please save my sanity and data plan.
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I haven't. Had this problem on android and not since iPhone 3g years ago in college. Here is an example - you go to, school, hospital, wherever and log in through their website. Click accept to the rules and bang u r riding waves. But 10 minutes later after not being on your phone, class is done, etc you open your browser and... U want to throw the phone - now its time to hit retry, which never works, so u have to open another page to something different than Google until the website login page comes up and you can sign in by hitting accept again. I Sat next to my wife and we tried the same pages, ate lunch, opened up and her note 2 would surf no issues, my LG g3 lost connection and had to,back to the accept/login screen. So is it a setting, LG thing, or android 4.4 thing, please save my sanity and data plan.
Stew
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probably an network thing after 10 min of inactivity it breaks the connection, you wife's note was probably syncing something in the background, so the inactivity wasn't quite as long it is that or you have ennablede the option to shut down wifi when screen is off(settings/wifi/settings/keep on durring sleep/always
I knew someone would try and say that even after it happening at multiple places and having a good test proving it. If your answer is the case, then what is her phone doing that keeps he continual, connection? Bc I can't stand this and need to,make it happen on my phone. My shoutcast is doing it too. I open Pandora to fast forward and it says connection lost and Pandora starts playing a different song than what is still playing on the shoutcast. It is not a shoutcast or network issue if I loose network connection everytime on different networks and never had the issue before with other tablets and phones except a ijunk phone5 years ago. Shoutcast streams a link sent to it, My phone should not drop the connection regardless. I don't loose WiFi connection to my house and it logs in no problem. Its the way my phone is handling the network connection. Ok maybe u r correct, in that other phones sends a continual ping, but how to fix my phone. Oh now that I think,about it, I lost connection 3 Times last night at work if my screen was off for more than a minute or so with the Amazon chat customer service for a return. I had to put my screen on no-time-out to finish the chat. This network feature to hold a connection at school years ago was one of my favorite things after coming from,iPhone. No need to mess with connecting every time if u stayed in the building.
Please pardon my thumbs, oh and the WiFi on when screen off was oem set to "on"
Solved - So Verizon tier 2 support said it was an anti virus app closing the connections. I didn't have anything which reminded me to get something good for avg i suppose. Anyway he said likely myVerizon security which I didn't set up. Anyway I downgraded and used the flash tool method to go to 10b, rootee, then used titanium and uninstalled everything on the safe bloatware to remove list. All is work now, I did have 30 minutes last night where I kept looking and instantly regaining home WiFi while watching videos on a website, no YouTube app. Networks that require web login looking connection is solved. Also, pandora issue is solved