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TWRP and root
How long does it typically take for the devs to get TWRP and root on a new device? Are there concerns about the difficulty of these with android 9 and Pixel 3?

stupidis said:
How long does it typically take for the devs to get TWRP and root on a new device? Are there concerns about the difficulty of these with android 9 and Pixel 3?
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Depends, a Developer will need to get their hands on one, then see what needs to be done.

stupidis said:
How long does it typically take for the devs to get TWRP and root on a new device? Are there concerns about the difficulty of these with android 9 and Pixel 3?
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If the latest Magisk already supports the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL, then root should be ready to go when the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are released. The Pixel 2 and 2 XL also run Android 9 and are A/B slot treble devices like the Pixel 3 and 3 XL should be. The only issue is you'll need a way to install Magisk, which is where TWRP comes in. Being a Google device, I'd imagine that some form of TWRP (official or unofficial) will hopefully be released within a few weeks after the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are released.
If TWRP and root are a concern for you, be super sure you don't purchase a Verizon device. "OEM unlocking" in developer options is typically disabled on Verizon Pixel devices and if you can't unlock the bootloader, then you can't install TWRP, and without TWRP you can't install Magisk, and without Magisk you have no root.

Has there been any leaks or info as to whether the new pixels will support hdmi out?

^So far, none to quote...

Thank You
Especially Thanks for this - In my early android days this would have saved me a lot of headache. I only buy phones now that are unlock friendly. Current device is Nexus six. Bought OP 6 because I thought surely their support / customer service has improved in the 6 years since I had to deal with them (have 2 OP 1's) - No luck, they need to work on their customer care.
If TWRP and root are a concern for you, be super sure you don't purchase a Verizon device. "OEM unlocking" in developer options is typically disabled on Verizon Pixel devices and if you can't unlock the bootloader, then you can't install TWRP, and without TWRP you can't install Magisk, and without Magisk you have no root.
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misc useless info:
My first device that I really started digging around android was an HTC One-s - Learned quite a bit with that - root, s-off, super CID, etc, - Thought I bricked it multiple times, but it turned out to be soft brick.
Borked radios and had to fix them.
God I love android - Say no to bloatware, privacy abuses etc etc - only buy unlock friendly Devices then all manufacturers will become more unlock friendly.

the phones are already available on project fi.

Will we be able to Port the new camera app to other devices because I don't want to buy the phone but those camera features are super good

sd_shadow said:
Depends, a Developer will need to get their hands on one, then see what needs to be done.
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It will be interesting to see if that titan security chip they're touting will have any impact on gaining root access.

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It will be interesting to see if that titan security chip they're touting will have any impact on gaining root access.
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This was my only thought when they announced the security chip. Especially since they said one of its primary jobs is to ensure OS integrity. If this prevents root, I will be selling the device and going back to my 2 xl. I can surely go at least another year with the iffy screen.

I am thinking about Pre-ordering the Pixel 3 XL ( coming from the Nexus 6p It's old and dying ). Does anyone have any experience buying the unlocked phone from google directly? I am currently with Verizon, but don't want the phone to be locked to them. If I buy the unlocked phone from them will it still work on Verizon?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks

Xzirus said:
I am thinking about Pre-ordering the Pixel 3 XL ( coming from the Nexus 6p It's old and dying ). Does anyone have any experience buying the unlocked phone from google directly? I am currently with Verizon, but don't want the phone to be locked to them. If I buy the unlocked phone from them will it still work on Verizon?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
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I've bought several phones directly from Google (unlocked). They'll work all major network's system.

Ozark_8125 said:
It will be interesting to see if that titan security chip they're touting will have any impact on gaining root access.
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Avoid buying from a carrier like Verizon, if you want root.
Buying directly from Google is best option.

I preordered on Fi but I just saw the $50 credit they had on the Google store, so thinking maybe I should cancel the Fi order and switch to the play store...
Actually looks like maybe the best deal is to buy 2 on Fi and sell one after a month of service on it for the $799 service credit.

Has anyone seen a hands on review that mentions whether or not the wireless charging includes the magnets that the Nexus 5 has? Made it super convenient for in car mounts with magnets (with or without charging).

Anyone with a system dump already? Would love to try and include the features in my Pixify module.

What is Pixel 3 XL's Codename?

Havoc vs Pixeldust - which is better

Hi,
I'm looking to move from Stock ROM of P2XL to some CUSTOM ROM. I see that Havoc and Pixel Dust are great.
But the question is, which is better in terms of battery&Magisk hide?
I'm having troubles with Magisk Hide on STOCK so I would think to move on the custom one.
Also I don't play games, so I do not need high performance.

Vortuks said:
Hi,
I'm looking to move from Stock ROM of P2XL to some CUSTOM ROM. I see that Havoc and Pixel Dust are great.
But the question is, which is better in terms of battery&Magisk hide?
I'm having troubles with Magisk Hide on STOCK so I would think to move on the custom one.
Also I don't play games, so I do not need high performance.
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If you're looking an improvement, if any, in battery life, your best bet would be stock + kernel. Not much from custom roms these days with speed or battery as it's just down to customization nowadays. Google seems to know what's best for their own product for optimization. It's tough for one person to optimize something better than a company with many coders, testers, and resources working on a product that they made themselves.

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If you're looking an improvement, if any, in battery life, your best bet would be stock + kernel. Not much from custom roms these days with speed or battery as it's just down to customization nowadays. Google seems to know what's best for their own product for optimization. It's tough for one person to optimize something better than a company with many coders, testers, and resources working on a product that they made themselves.
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Do you have a recommendation for a kernel??

richii0207 said:
If you're looking an improvement, if any, in battery life, your best bet would be stock + kernel. Not much from custom roms these days with speed or battery as it's just down to customization nowadays. Google seems to know what's best for their own product for optimization. It's tough for one person to optimize something better than a company with many coders, testers, and resources working on a product that they made themselves.
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Hi,
Thank you for your reply
I know that the stock ROM is the best option available, but I'm having trouble with Snapchat/GPay as they've stopped working.
Snapchat is constantly banning me as they say that I'm rooted. That's why I'm looking for a good custom ROM
But as the @blaaaazedup said, what's the best kernel in your opinion?
Regards,
Vortuks

blaaaazedup said:
Do you have a recommendation for a kernel??
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ElementalX by flar2. His work has been around for years and knows his stuff, just like Franco. I'm a bit hesitant to try kernels from new developers as I've seen many make a couple of patches and stop while flar has a proven track record.

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ElementalX by flar2. His work has been around for years and knows his stuff, just like Franco. I'm a bit hesitant to try kernels from new developers as I've seen many make a couple of patches and stop while flar has a proven track record.
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Do you use GPay on a March Update?
I have a problem with that, as the GPay says that I've altered my device in someway(rooted/unlocked bootloader).
I'll try stock(March update) with Magisk Canary.

Vortuks said:
Do you use GPay on a March Update?
I have a problem with that, as the GPay says that I've altered my device in someway(rooted/unlocked bootloader).
I'll try stock(March update) with Magisk Canary.
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I use GPay but I have been using locked - unrooted for about a year now. When I was last unlocked, safetynet passed with ElementalX on my OG pixel

richii0207 said:
I use GPay but I have been using locked - unrooted for about a year now. When I was last unlocked, safetynet passed with ElementalX on my OG pixel
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Thanks, I'll try Havoc as they seem more reliable(to me).
Also, thanks for your participation in this thread.

richii0207 said:
ElementalX by flar2. His work has been around for years and knows his stuff, just like Franco. I'm a bit hesitant to try kernels from new developers as I've seen many make a couple of patches and stop while flar has a proven track record.
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This. I feel exactly the same way, but at the same time, both the kernels you named have their own apps specifically for their kernels, so it makes the user experience better as well. Other than that, it just works, lol.
Vortuks said:
Do you use GPay on a March Update?
I have a problem with that, as the GPay says that I've altered my device in someway(rooted/unlocked bootloader).
I'll try stock(March update) with Magisk Canary.
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I was using stock+rooted for a long time and noticed the SafetyNet was failing, so I just recently switched the DU and now it's passing the SafetyNet no problem.
But really, there isn't much to custom roms nowadays besides a bit more customization. My favorite would probably be the bottom brightness in the QS page.
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This. I feel exactly the same way, but at the same time, both the kernels you named have their own apps specifically for their kernels, so it makes the user experience better as well. Other than that, it just works, lol.I was using stock+rooted for a long time and noticed the SafetyNet was failing, so I just recently switched the DU and now it's passing the SafetyNet no problem.
But really, there isn't much to custom roms nowadays besides a bit more customization. My favorite would probably be the bottom brightness in the QS page.View attachment 4727163
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The other screenshot was broken, but maybe it'll work now.
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Have you tried ColtOS? It reminds me of Nougat RR and it comes with unicornblood

Question No more OP 9 Pro updates?

Really?
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The latest OTA is version 11.2.8.8.LE15AA, I think that one in the screenshot is the full version download preceding the latest OTA updates, but IDK for sure lol
Edit - my default kernel was built on Jul 8 2021, and android security date/level is 7/1/21 ... HTH

I read about OnePlus getting new people to make a team to work on Open Beta for 9/9Pro.
I like that!

New team is not something to like. It might be good but also be a disaster. Questions should be asked like WHY????? are they getting a new team? What happened to all the revenue they made and how are they using it? Who is controlling the company, One Plus or the Chinese government? Why the delay to begin with. I realized DP1 was developers preview and not beta but why not allow Google updates for DP 2 and three. Who cares that Oxygen was not on it yet. Now that stability been reached with Beta, let's us Early Adopters adopt. I refuse to buy a Google Pixel love my one plus but was so excited that it allowed BL to be unlocked but I feel let down by OP. Perhaps my expectations were unrealistic to begin with

vibrantliker said:
Really?
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This update is from June. (end of the month)
There's an update (11.2.8.8) from July. (end of month)
So, following this logic, this week OnePlus might release a new one.

bencozzy said:
I'd be more worried if the US government was running it like apple with the new back door.
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Lol US government and Chinese as well because even though apple says they are all American blah blah but they are manufactured in China as well. Just all marketing etc

People get married, have kids, no more time to spend on Android. Priorities change.

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People get married, have kids, no more time to spend on Android. Priorities change. I also think not only priorities of people's lives but also Android itself and the huge slowdown of phone evolution. Actual since smartphone sales slowed companies like apple and Google created smart watches to help increase revenues. They first used the old nostalgic movies like knight rider or James bond to sell them even though Smart watches cannot do anything close to what the movies portrayed. You can make flippable phones but you won't see hologram s coming out of your phone. I know we love to always think of our technology being limitless but that dam law of physics keeps getting in the way. So now they will start with AR glasses with WebView capabilities. And when that fails, which it will because who wants a HUD I'm their line of sight. In 30 years we will events have implants and chips that will help the brain and technology link. Isn't it Neurolink that exists now. That technology is decades away. Because again we do not know how the body/brain will react and now I'm having flashback from the movie Black Mirror.
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Ain't no updates that can save this POS.

the support update page is only updated from time to time, it does not repesent the actual stage of the software.
At this point 11.2.8.8 is up 2 date. OnePlus updates bi-monthly.

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Ain't no updates that can save this POS.
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Get a life.. go buy an iphone or something and quit trolling

There's closed beta testing so maybe devs are focusing to it. Sad to see no fix for Gmail notification bug...

AndroPlus said:
There's closed beta testing so maybe devs are focusing to it. Sad to see no fix for Gmail notification bug...
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I think the gmail app just sux. I've experienced the late notifications across quite a few devices personally.

Oxygen sucks because of google. The more google on it the more bad Oxygen will be.
Also the King of Bloatware, samsung already gets Androis 12.
And OnePlus release 9R or something...

They are starting the ultimate consolidation of Oxygen OS into Color OS. How is OnePlus going to manage all these phones? Do they even have enough staff to manage all these phones?

Unfortunately they only update bi-monthly.
I saw a user suggest on their official forums basically say "hey guys, how about monthly updates like your competition?" in a friendly way, and a mod basically said **** off and closed the thread. I wasn't impressed.
This was my first OnePlus device, maybe my last.
That 12 Beta debacle was ridiculous.

After having the 7, 8, & 9 Pro, I will be leaving the building as well!

Is this a joke? About month last update and now ppl are think this is over. How do u even can survive this life?

I like how people actually think theres a decent alternative to oneplus these days. At least not in the US. Maybe google if the pixel 6 is actually premium/flagship this time. Otherwise theres no other brand with an unlockable bootloader, which is how they get away with so much bloat. Personally im fine of oneplus becomes a little more like the others as long as the hardware is premium and the bootloader is unlockable.

9 Pro is my first and last phone from OP if they can't get they BS sorted out. The phone has horrible battery life, scrolling issues, and it doesn't get better with next updates. Also, wtf is that BS with the bi-monthly update scheudle? A device like this should be fixed ASAP, the users are experiencing problems and neet to wait, the hell is that policy? Would they wait 2 months to release an update if someone would find a security bug too? So stupid. Get your **** together OnePlus.

General Paranoid Android might be coming to the P6 / Pro

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1453843673901379586
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That would be awesome...the kitchen is starting to heat up!

galaxys said:
That would be awesome...the kitchen is starting to hear up!
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Damn that would almost tempt me to root again. But not for Pay and banking. We need a phone that is shipped with the bootloader unlocked and rooted. Then if you try to lock it or unroot you get a warning that your apps won't work now. Then you wake up.

bobby janow said:
Damn that would almost tempt me to root again. But not for Pay and banking. We need a phone that is shipped with the bootloader unlocked and rooted. Then if you try to lock it or unroot you get a warning that your apps won't work now. Then you wake up.
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We're all in the Matrix and in real life our phones are all rooted - that's how we got put in the Matrix to begin with.

Oh paranoid android will come to our device alright! It just won't be supported for more than like an update like always. Everytime I switch to PA they abandon it. Funniest part is they usually JUST released it to. Extremely hard pass from me, but don't let ME stop you. Just don't tell me I didn't warn you when they cease development very quickly.

Gytole said:
Everytime I switch to PA they abandon it. Funniest part is they usually JUST released it to. Extremely hard pass from me, but don't let ME stop you. Just don't tell me I didn't warn you when they cease development very quickly.
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Are you paranoid... android?
Sorry, couldn't resist, just a joke.

Gytole said:
Oh paranoid android will come to our device alright! It just won't be supported for more than like an update like always. Everytime I switch to PA they abandon it. Funniest part is they usually JUST released it to. Extremely hard pass from me, but don't let ME stop you. Just don't tell me I didn't warn you when they cease development very quickly.
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Lmao you're right though I'm not falling for the hype anymore. It seems they just do it for likes , shares and donations cuz for the like the last few years they'll announced a new version when the next Android os drops then after a build or 2 they go missing again for a whole year or 2 and leave us in the dust I'm good!

yeah i stayed away as its not guaranteed to be updated all the time
my go to custom ROMs are AOSIP or Havoc but neither are developing for P6 I think. But Proton does look like it could be good also.

Agree with the commenters here; Paranoid Android is no longer reputable (and hasn't been in many years). ProtonAOSP, Lineage, AOSIP, and a bunch of other mainstream ROMs will officially support the P6 so it is absolutely not worth messing with PA.

I'd like to add "but" the more developers working on the P6P the better for everyone, even if one group's stuff isn't up to snuff. At least, as long as they share information when appropriate, which the best developers do, in my opinion.

roirraW edor ehT said:
I'd like to add "but" the more developers working on the P6P the better for everyone, even if one group's stuff isn't up to snuff. At least, as long as they share information when appropriate, which the best developers do, in my opinion.
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Yeah, development on the P5 was severely lacking but on the P6 and the P6P many more people have it in their hands. Unfortunately, I don't root any longer but I like to see the tweaks and new stuff the devs come up with. (I actually rooted my P5 and loaded a rom before rolling it back before I sent it in for trade-in) Specifically kernel tweaks which are usually drastically needed. Nonetheless, it's a good start as you say.

What Rom Do You Guys Want?

Hello all!
I'm MODEDGES, I'm a custom rom builder/developer
Today I would like to hear you out and ask what rom would you like to see in the Note10/S10 community, I'm curious as i like experiencing new things and testing new builds or roms so give me some ideas or if you know a rom ill see if I can build it
No promises but yes give me some suggestions

Noble ROM freaking one UI 5.0 Android 13

They already have a port for an S9 and the S10 we need one for the Note 10 please everybody's been dying for it

Ported one ui 5 Android 13

MODEDGES said:
Hello all!
I'm MODEDGES, I'm a custom rom builder/developer
Today I would like to hear you out and ask what rom would you like to see in the Note10/S10 community, I'm curious as i like experiencing new things and testing new builds or roms so give me some ideas or if you know a rom ill see if I can build it
No promises but yes give me some suggestions
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Ported one ui 5 Android 13 please

MODEDGES said:
Hello all!
I'm MODEDGES, I'm a custom rom builder/developer
Today I would like to hear you out and ask what rom would you like to see in the Note10/S10 community, I'm curious as i like experiencing new things and testing new builds or roms so give me some ideas or if you know a rom ill see if I can build it
No promises but yes give me some suggestions
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Project Elixir plz

Resurrection remix or android ice cold project hands down. If I have to give up my camera for not using one UI I want something with better options and more features because gcam is a big step down from standard Samsung camera and I haven't seen anything really worth the loss in the note ten note 10 plus development. Hell I've only seen like 2 or three mods of oneui so pickings are slim. If your gonna a take a crack at it shoot for the stars.

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i have built spark for all s10/note10 but am updating it right now spark has customisations etc, right now it's stuck on February patch, but it uses grapheneos camera, I'm gonna aim for this to be out this week

SFDalha said:
Ported one ui 5 Android 13 please
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I should mention someone is working on one ui 5.1 I have no time or day of release for that

MODEDGES said:
I should mention someone is working on one ui 5.1 I have no time or day of release for that
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Who's working on it?

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Who's working on it?
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I'm not sure if Ivan is working on it but he made it work on s10 hoping he will get it out, I'm waiting for one ui5.1 myself so I can mod it and add a lot of features to it customization etc

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I'm not sure if Ivan is working on it but he made it work on s10 hoping he will get it out, I'm waiting for one ui5.1 myself so I can mod it and add a lot of features to it customization etc
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Yh he ported one ui 5.1 on S10 few months ago. Let's hope we get it.

What is the outlook for any sort of bootloader unlock / root for the D2Q, aka Qualcomm US Variant SM-N975U1? What's the max bootloader upgrade to get a lock code these days? I've been fighting off oem security patch updates for a minute, since last time I checked they said I was fxxed... Lol.. Any direction?
Also, I have a rooted C2S, SM-N985F, running a custom TWRP with Magisk, and was wondering if any decent ROMs have been created yet for this one? I know wrong thread, sorry, but I'm reaching. Thanks for all you guys do, I'm a noob, but you guys are my heroes and I aspire to someday be able to be a part of this resistance! Lol.
Another project of mine, Jkruse' S5 Exploit is working great so far, but I'm just dipping my toes into this so far, not using it for anything besides a hobby, but not entirely against the idea of swapping it out for my e'ryday phone. So, I reading this is V7a Arm 32? I upgraded from a Stock Marshmallow to LineageOS Android 11, this is where it gets confusing as to which OpenGapps I should be flashing... Any direction in that area? I tried the V7a, which failed, so I'm thinking I should have grabbed the 32 instead? I was looking into NikGapps, BC that worked perfect for my C2S running Tiramisu, but all the mixed OS's and Architectures and Arms, plus Android Versions are still a bit, okay a LOT confusing for me. Thanks,
LibertyJ #FreeTheDragons.... Lol

very lov what one ui 5.1 do with note 20 series and above, i realy want to see note 10 and s10 series can run one ui 5.1, send form note 10 plus

I'm getting the phone tomorrow so prolly going to find the Telegram Group for Unlocking then What Is a good ROM already out there,...? I'm switching from a PH-1 for 5G and size,...