Swap out the Soc? - Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This is a technical question.... if I have a bootlooping 5x (which I do) and I also have a working 6p with a smashed screen but works (which I also do) then would be possible to just swap out the 808 in the 5x for the 810 from the 6p? And if it works, would I then try and flash the device with a standard 5x rom?....

No and no. You're better off fixing both phones respectively.

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Replace 2GB RAM with a different chip

Hi guys,
My good friend has a mobile fix store.
I'm thinking if it is "theoretically" possible to replace the 2GB chip to a different one?
Look here @ iFixit
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
Here's the chips is a huge high-res image. The red one is the RAM chip.
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/GUvrNofWVjoHTgMV.huge
What do you think?
Anything is theoretically possible, but chances are your friend doesn't have the equipment to do this. Almost no one does surface mount repairs, and if you read, the actual processor shares that space, further complicating things.
While it may be possible, it's entirely implausible.
mewshi said:
Anything is theoretically possible, but chances are your friend doesn't have the equipment to do this. Almost no one does surface mount repairs, and if you read, the actual processor shares that space, further complicating things.
While it may be possible, it's entirely implausible.
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Let's say he does have the equipment... he does the most advanced fixes on mobile. If I had a Snapdragon 810 together with the 3gb RAM pulled from a Nexus 6P, it should be swappable, right?
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zurih said:
Let's say he does have the equipment... he does the most advanced fixes on mobile. If I had a Snapdragon 810 together with the 3gb RAM pulled from a Nexus 6P, it should be swappable, right?
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Why don't you give it a try and then let us know?
Cell phones aren't designed to have the CPU/RAM swapped out like a computer. The interconnects/traces on the motherboard probably would not support such a swap.
For instance the 6p uses DDR4 and the 5x uses DDR3.
I wouldn't harbor any hopes this could possibly work if I were you. Most certainly you'll end with a stylish paperweight. Electronics are not bricks you can swap and rearrange at will. They are placed a and connected following a complicated design where every element affects any other element in the board. Getting a 6p to scrap parts for the 5x will end in an epic fail of trashing two good phones
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Pelrauns said:
I wouldn't harbor any hopes this could possibly work if I were you. Most certainly you'll end with a stylish paperweight. Electronics are not bricks you can swap and rearrange at will.
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Not yet at least! COME PROJECT ARA we need you!
bblzd said:
Cell phones aren't designed to have the CPU/RAM swapped out like a computer. The interconnects/traces on the motherboard probably would not support such a swap.
For instance the 6p uses DDR4 and the 5x uses DDR3.
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I'd be extremely surprised if this weren't the case. Obviously it's impossible to know without having more data on the soc's or someone trying it but I really doubt it's worth the headache/time/money. Then you'd run into software/firmware issues. The swap itself wouldn't be fun either. I'd just get a 6p if it were that important.
Illogi.xbone said:
Not yet at least! COME PROJECT ARA we need you!
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The catch is for that kind of modularity some design concessions should be made both in software and hardware. Think for example about the Apple model. They just develop their software for a reference hardware platform. That allows them to tune the software so precisely they can get a lot more performance than a PC with similar specs. That's mostly because the PC runs an OS made to work in many heterogeneous hardware platforms and the PC is made to support a variety of hardware modules and combination of those. That will also plague project ARA.
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Is there was a way to check if the chips/motherboards are compatible I would go ahead and test it. My friend has from now and then spare parts from various devices, but still I would risk it if there would be a way to really ensure if SD808 and SD810 are compatible is the way they're fused into the motherboard.
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This is 100% not going to work, so don't waste any spare parts. I doubt, that the pin layout for the 808 and the 810 are the same. Apart from that, even if they would be compatible there would most certainly still be driver problems and problems with the peripheral controllers/chips.
So the only thing you would get are two fried motherboards.
zurih said:
Hi guys,
My good friend has a mobile fix store.
I'm thinking if it is "theoretically" possible to replace the 2GB chip to a different one?
Look here @ iFixit
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
Here's the chips is a huge high-res image. The red one is the RAM chip.
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/GUvrNofWVjoHTgMV.huge
What do you think?
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I think you should buy another phone.
if you're going to get a N6P for parts, why not just get a N6P instead?
zurih said:
Hi guys,
My good friend has a mobile fix store.
I'm thinking if it is "theoretically" possible to replace the 2GB chip to a different one?
Look here @ iFixit
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
Here's the chips is a huge high-res image. The red one is the RAM chip.
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/GUvrNofWVjoHTgMV.huge
What do you think?
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The 6P uses DDR4. The Snapdragon 808 doesn't support DDR4. It won't work. Simple as that.
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should I sell LG G3 and buy a Nexus 5X 32GB?

Currently have a LG G3 16GB a year (bought sim -free) and wondering is a Nexus 5X a good replacement? from United Kingdom (GB)
reefuge said:
Currently had my LG G3 16GB a year (bought sim -free) and wondering is a Nexus 5X a good replacement? from United Kingdom (GB)
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I was using g3 16gb 2gb of ram
I would say definitely worth to upgrade
Good camera
More performance
Faster update.
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It's not. Even from G2. Go for Nexus 6P, Pixel or OnePlus 3.
Dont purchase LG they have very ****ty warranty and support.
Just IMHO. Having had LG G2, G3, G Flex 2, Huawei P8 in passing 6 mths. Each of those had something unique. The 5X seems it doesn't. BUT despite being plastic without the premium feel, it rocks very snazzy camera and 2g Ram ain't still bad. Display is nice and sufficient and having regular, stable and most recent updates is the bonus to welcome. Plus there's a nice custom Rom community that makes your phone a beast. So choice's yours but if you grab that you won't be disappointed
Check out some reviews
The way I see it, switching from LG G3 to Nexus 5X is merely a side-grade, not an upgrade as far as the specs go. You lose the sd card slot, but gain a barely faster CPU and relatively lean ROM that has been already upgraded to Nougat.
Its definitely an upgrade IMO! Nexus rules. Better roms, kernels, other mods, more compatible.. More roms! Kick ass devs!!! I used to buy flagships. Last flagship I had was an GS4. I've had every Nexus except the Nexus 4 because at the time I was on Sprint and they didn't have it. The Bullhead is a good phone. I had a 6p before and it got destroyed on a job and liked it more as far as internal specs.. It is faster and gets better battery but I like the 5x build quality and led light seems to be more on point with colors .. You can grab a 5x for like $200 now. Dang well worth 2 bills.
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Duckscreen said:
I was using g3 16gb 2gb of ram
I would say definitely worth to upgrade
Good camera
More performance
Faster update.
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If you want a better phone which runs fast and smooth and you don't want to spend a lot of money yes nexus 5x is great!If you have no problem to spend some more I think one plus 3 would be the best choice. I wouldn't say pixel is a lot faster.
I came from a G3. It was a great move with no regrets
I swapped my lg g3 for 5x. Same 32gb UK model etc. A great decision imo. Only drawback is lack of expandable storage but there is no overheating issues like in g3
That's exactly what I've done a month ago lol yeah it's woth to change the only thing I regret is the 2k screen but nexus 5x is just a little less defined and it's a lot more performing/frequently updated/more supported by xda/has a better hardware so it's worth the change
I came from a Sony Z3 Compact and I have to say that i'm too happy having mi 5X. Excellent camera (better than Z3 compact's), stock android is the best that any android fan could have, you're free from useless apps from manufacturers. The display is really good, processor works perfect, battery do it's job perfectly and further more you will have access to very nice mods and roms with great support and easy ways to install it, making the 5x a very custom phone compared to your old G3. If you want a premium feel in your hand with this phone, you just have to buy a vinyl set, there are very nice variants. Trust me, if you are an android fan, the 5x is a great upgrade from your G3.
khanjui said:
It's not. Even from G2. Go for Nexus 6P, Pixel or OnePlus 3.
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had g2, and 5x is an upgrade albeit a small one, but g3 is garbage and inferior to both phones.
imo the only phones worth to buy for their price group are:
moto E3
nexus 5X
oneplus 3
Sorry to hijack your thread but I have the same dilemma as well, between OnePlus X and Nexus 5X. Should I keep 5X and sell OPX or the other way round.
OPX over 5X:
- Sleeker body profile VS fatter body profile. The Onyx version is really nice.
- SDCard slot so I can use SD card as adaptive storage to get more spaces VS fixed 16/32 storage
- 3GB RAM VS 2GB RAM
- Better screen? AMOLED vs IPS. Higher PPI.
5X over OPX:
- Better processor 808 VS 801
- Fingerprint VS no fingerprint
- USB Type C VS micro USB
- Better camera quality and performance
- Faster update from Google, but this doesn't matter as I always flash custom ROM
Thank you.
vibranze said:
Sorry to hijack your thread but I have the same dilemma as well, between OnePlus X and Nexus 5X. Should I keep 5X and sell OPX or the other way round.
OPX over 5X:
- Sleeker body profile VS fatter body profile. The Onyx version is really nice.
- SDCard slot so I can use SD card as adaptive storage to get more spaces VS fixed 16/32 storage
- 3GB RAM VS 2GB RAM
- Better screen? AMOLED vs IPS. Higher PPI.
5X over OPX:
- Better processor 808 VS 801
- Fingerprint VS no fingerprint
- USB Type C VS micro USB
- Better camera quality and performance
- Faster update from Google, but this doesn't matter as I always flash custom ROM
Thank you.
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dont matter:
performance, 808 throttles so its the same in daily use
amoled, that tells nothing about screen colors, ppi difference is not visible
slightly matter:
usb c, for covenience
fingerprint, for "security"
3gb, nice to have
sd card, nice to have
important:
processor, qualcom stops releasing updates for old hardware
looks, if you crave the phone then you might as well buy it
Giorgos Chatziioannou said:
dont matter:
performance, 808 throttles so its the same in daily use
amoled, that tells nothing about screen colors, ppi difference is not visible
slightly matter:
usb c, for covenience
fingerprint, for "security"
3gb, nice to have
sd card, nice to have
important:
processor, qualcom stops releasing updates for old hardware
looks, if you crave the phone then you might as well buy it
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I have both of them now, OPX and 5X.
So your suggestion is to stay with Nexus 5X due to USB-C and fingerprint?
Thank you.
vibranze said:
I have both of them now, OPX and 5X.
So your suggestion is to stay with Nexus 5X due to USB-C and fingerprint?
Thank you.
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thats on you. personally i dont even use fp anymore, while i LOVE usb c not having to play twister every time i plug in xD
I did and I'm happy because of it N5X works much better than G3.
Did you sell it yet? ???? @reefuge
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Purchase Opinion - Upgrade to a used 5X, or a new OnePlusX?

I am currently a somewhat happy owner of a Sony Z3 Compact. Which, hardware wise, was perfect for me 2 years ago. (Small form factor, ext SDcard port, waterproof*, unlockable bootloader, and flagship hardware CPU/GPU) But due to it's unpopularity in sales & the difficulty Sony has put in the way of AOSP community developers effectively I'm stuck at 5.1.1 LP (AOSP derivative ROM) as a stable daily driver.
So, I'm looking at either a gently used 5X, or a new OnePlusX. Both will let me flash easily, but I lose an external SD card with the 5X. I know the responses here will be somewhat biased, but I'm also posting this within the OnePlusX forum to gauge both sides of the responses.
(And no, I don't want to pay ~$700-800 for a 128GB Pixel. I don't have that kind of money to burn. And the 5.5" of the OP3T is bigger than I want to have in my hands / pocket.)
So get the 5X? Get a new OPX? Anything else on the horizon I'm missing? (Wait for ---- ?)
Thanks in advance for your opinions.
buy a new 5x? its the same price (around 250eu) and 5x should be better at everything other than ram
a cheaper alternative could be moto g4 (dual). is it "worse" phone? yes, but its around 80eu cheaper too, and imo more sensible choise than oneplusx
I say go for the 5x. the internal memory for the 5x is doable since it comes with either a 16gb, 32gb, or 128gb, hopefully the used one has a 32gb so you want have to worry about space that much

Related to bootloop (same as G4?)

Hi, i own a Nexus 5x H791 16 GB Carbon, manufactured in march of this year. Before this i had a LG G4 H815 (it's almost the same device), he died due to the famous Bootloop Issue after 8 months of usage. Now i'm really worried cause lot of 5x's are having the same issue, as G4 did. When my G4 bootlooped i could relived it flashing a .TOT file that turned off the 2 BIG cpu's (you know, the snapdragon 808 has 6 cores, 4 littles, 2 bigs) I remember that all i had to do was disable cpu 4 and 5, apparently the problem is a bad welding on that zone.
The conclusion is that for those who suffered this in their LG Nexus 5x (and you have not RMA, like me)
this could be a "solution". My G4 is still alive and running well (obviously it does not have the same performance that when it had the 2 big cores running)
But it runs like my Moto G 2015 and for daily simple use is more than acceptable (it's better than a paperweight).
Now we need to know how to disable cpu 4 and 5 via recovery, adb or by a .TOT file (in the scenario that we can not boot due to bootloop).
Remember that it is just an idea for those who have already exhausted their possibilities.
Lot of LG G4 revived in this way (included mine) and it is a same year device with an almost identical logic board and specs.
If someone knows how to make a script that lets you disable cpu 4 and 5 (big cores) via adb, recovery or fastboot will be very grateful.
moonlightdrive said:
Hi, i own a Nexus 5x H791 16 GB Carbon, manufactured in march of this year. Before this i had a LG G4 H815 (it's almost the same device), he died due to the famous Bootloop Issue after 8 months of usage. Now i'm really worried cause lot of 5x's are having the same issue, as G4 did. When my G4 bootlooped i could relived it flashing a .TOT file that turned off the 2 BIG cpu's (you know, the snapdragon 808 has 6 cores, 4 littles, 2 bigs) I remember that all i had to do was disable cpu 4 and 5, apparently the problem is a bad welding on that zone.
The conclusion is that for those who suffered this in their LG Nexus 5x (and you have not RMA, like me)
this could be a "solution". My G4 is still alive and running well (obviously it does not have the same performance that when it had the 2 big cores running)
But it runs like my Moto G 2015 and for daily simple use is more than acceptable (it's better than a paperweight).
Now we need to know how to disable cpu 4 and 5 via recovery, adb or by a .TOT file (in the scenario that we can not boot due to bootloop).
Remember that it is just an idea for those who have already exhausted their possibilities.
Lot of LG G4 revived in this way (included mine) and it is a same year device with an almost identical logic board and specs.
If someone knows how to make a script that lets you disable cpu 4 and 5 (big cores) via adb, recovery or fastboot will be very grateful.
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This is actually a very useful post and someone with more experience should look into this. Basically modified boot.img with two cores disabled by default. It doesn't hurt to try. Maybe someone like @The Flash could help?
Someone already did it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/bootloped-hw-please-try-t3505392

All the Nexus 5X are dying?

Hi,
I'm looking to buy a second hand device because my old phone got screwd, while looking I found a Nexus 5X which looks good and also is working perfectly for now, but I'm reading everywhere that almost all the devices from LG that have the SD808 are dying (bootloop) (G4, V10 and N5X) and instead of repairing them, they are offering LG G5, which makes me also think that it just can't be repaired in any way, so right now I'm starting to think that this Nexus 5x problem is something like the Note 7 but less violent.. I mean, that it will happen to every N5X device sooner or later, and it being a second hand device I don't really want to spend 180$ for a 1-2 months device...
Is this looking like the Note 7 problem or? What are the chances? Would you reccomend me the Nexus 5x second hand in 2017?
And which other device can you reccomend me? I've been looking for the Original Nexus 5 but the camera and the SD800...
I'm very newbie on the forum so if this question doesn't go here change it's section please, thanks.
I have my Nexus 5X for over 6 monthes , without any problems...
maybe its a luck thing, but I trust this device to continue wokring ..
hope I helped you in somthing
(pay attention that not *all of the nexus 5x are dying , just some of them.. you can see that by the usage of the nexus 5x forms here at xda)
I would go for Nexus 6P instead, maybe Pixel if your budget can handle it.
IDK if they are repairable, but AFAIK one reason is that N5X is no longer being manufactured.
neth15 said:
I would go for Nexus 6P instead, maybe Pixel if your budget can handle it.
IDK if they are repairable, but AFAIK one reason is that N5X is no longer being manufactured.
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I can't afford it, I found a S5 Plus at about 165$ that lookgs good too... But It don't have too much community support :silly:
Hmm, I see, well, if there is someone who got it in bootloop before they stopped manufacturing it and can tell me if they repared it or directly changed it for a new one and still working, please.
i hope mine will die during next 12 monts to have a refound and by a new smartphone
Actually is working fine
I actually had a g4 that died a bootlooping death before I got the 5x and if you can afford it go for the 6p.
kevtrysmoddin said:
I actually had a g4 that died a bootlooping death before I got the 5x and if you can afford it go for the 6p.
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6p is about 100$+, and I'm reading it have the bootloop problem too...
BTW turning off the big cores solves the problem? If it works I would buy it anyway, I love the design and the camera on this phone, at this price.
Recycool said:
6p is about 100$+, and I'm reading it have the bootloop problem too...
BTW turning off the big cores solves the problem? If it works I would buy it anyway, I love the design and the camera on this phone, at this price.
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Well I'm that case go for the 5x and another plus is that when official support stops the custom ROMs usually don't do you should never be stuck with outdated software
I think that was becouse of 7.0 early release. Mine nexus died too but i recovered him, from that day i still using 7.0 and now 7.1.1 without any problem. If you dont have enough money for 6P (wich i recommend, better battery life, performance, and display) You can try Nexus 5X, it's a great device but battery life would be better. :>
Choose Nex with warranty. If anything goes wrong Google will fix it (or LG). Good Luck
Siljorfag said:
I think that was becouse of 7.0 early release. Mine nexus died too but i recovered him, from that day i still using 7.0 and now 7.1.1 without any problem. If you dont have enough money for 6P (wich i recommend, better battery life, performance, and display) You can try Nexus 5X, it's a great device but battery life would be better. :>
Choose Nex with warranty. If anything goes wrong Google will fix it (or LG). Good Luck
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Yes, that is what I'm looking for, there is a shop that sells it (second hand, but with warranty from the shop), btw, how you recovered it?
Have my 5X (16b) since a year, and I think personally it's a really good phone (coupled with an external battery btw and with PureNexus 7 rom ), never had any bootloop brick.
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Probably my EFS was messed up. Died in about 2 weeks after 7.0 release. I was fighting for his life almost 2 days! I was lucky that my phone was in unlocked state. I dont know exacly how i recovered him but i tried diffrent stock images, and twrp backups (incl. EFS) but no luck, when i was gonna to give up and send my device back to LG for repair i flashed old marshmallow stock image and on top of it backup from 7.0 (without changing vendor) phone booted up! And from that moment so far no problem with this bootloop. Nex is working strong from about 1yr no problems. Everything is working like this first day, but build quality is really crap.
I have my Nexus 5x working fine with Cyanogen 13 (so Marshmallow obviously).
As far as I can see, problems begin with Nougat.
As for bootloop, have you guys tried downgrading? I will not touch 7 until they fix all issues.
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gnome_mo said:
I have my Nexus 5x working fine with Cyanogen 13 (so Marshmallow obviously).
As far as I can see, problems begin with Nougat.
As for bootloop, have you guys tried downgrading? I will not touch 7 until they fix all issues.
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Here, https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1...D3_E-rXRZ-QMmxpR4D4IdwEWZYb2NKA/viewanalytics some people saying that happened on 6.0 too, maybe because of the lapse time, or maybe they got another type of bootloop.
Btw the ratio is very good, 103\1558.
I like that ratio
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Since November my phone's battery started showing weird graphs in stats. There is an idle drain of almost 1.2%/h without any apps installed or even in safe mode. And when i calculate per-app breakdown it does not matches the drain percentage. I ignored that since i it has rapid charging which doesn't take that long to completely charge the phone.
But 4-5 days back my phone just rebooted while browsing chrome and kept on rebooting on boot logo for 3-4 times. After that it rebooted again and showed 'This device is corrupt' but phone was working as it was before reboot. Then i unlocked the bootloader and flashed the factory images. There was no issue for 2 days but last night it did the same i.e. rebooting again and again but this timei had to force restart it by holding power button since it got stuck on Android logo this time. After force restart I again got the message 'This device is corrupt'.
Hardware issue? If that's the case i am really just frustrated with this phone. Last September i got my phone's Display replaced because of dead pixels, then battery and now this.
I am going to visit LG repairs tomorrow.
neth15 said:
I would go for Nexus 6P instead, maybe Pixel if your budget can handle it.
IDK if they are repairable, but AFAIK one reason is that N5X is no longer being manufactured.
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Nexus 6P has nothing more to offer than a slighty faster cpu on paper
jody2k said:
Nexus 6P has nothing more to offer than a slighty faster cpu on paper
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Yes, what results in Daydream support. Additionally, it has bigger AMOLED display and full metal build (which is quite brittle, but that's not a problem for me personally). AAAND more RAM.
There is daydream support for nexus 5x too, check the apps section
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...d-daydream-vr-support-nexus-5x-t3518570/page2
2 gig ram is perfectly fine for me never had any issues. I play heavy games and use multitasking all the time.
On pure nexus rom everything is insanely smooth
I dont like metal build it doesnt feel good for me
Not that i want to argue but this phone is perfect, no need to pay 100€ more 6P has nothing more to offer
There has been also growing number of issues where the phone will completely die on the 6p despite having adequate battery:
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...hutdown-issue-after-android-nougat-update.htm
I don't know if there is really anything conclusive about this or the 5x, it's like which comes first the chicken or the egg (software vs. hardware).
I can say one thing though, if you get the phone cheap enough like I did (brand new 32GB, $200), then who gives a f--- if it messes up after 6 months. That's why I don't buy expensive phones anymore that way if it breaks or something happens I'm never out too much (I don't buy insurance, waste of money).

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