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So my buddy wants a smartphone finally so I tell him about the Nexus S and WP7 (focus) in this case since he's on ATT.
He really liked the way the Nexus S felt but I convinced him to go give the focus a try. He is very much on the fence since he likes the moving backgrounds of Android but also liked the integration of my WP7 device.
Anyway, we go to the ATT store and we're getting the pros and cons of the various phones they have. When they get to the focus, the store rep talks about how it's one of their best selling phones even though it doesn't have a SAmoled screen. I chime in with a "Yes it does" and the rep looks kinda irritated.
Then he's talking about how it doesn't have 4G like the iPhone and I'm like "The Iphone doesn't have 4G". Then the other rep starts screaming "Android is the future. it has 100k apps compared to WP7".
I say "Way to compare 3 months to 3 years buddy" He starts talking about how Android is killing everything at which point we both walk out kinda irritated by the moron.
He didn't even realize I wasn't even anti-Android. I just hate fanatical fans.
Anyone else experience crap like this?
Looks like WP7 is not going to get 4G, only Android at this stage.
Wow ;D That man is really stupid I hate when there are people who work in mobile sectors and don't know a **** about everything else, than their beloved smart phones This way, it was Android and iOS Android has lots, lots, lots of **** apps though. Well, I would argue till closing hours to those *****es ;D
lekki said:
So my buddy wants a smartphone finally so I tell him about the Nexus S and WP7 (focus) in this case since he's on ATT.
He really liked the way the Nexus S felt but I convinced him to go give the focus a try. He is very much on the fence since he likes the moving backgrounds of Android but also liked the integration of my WP7 device.
Anyway, we go to the ATT store and we're getting the pros and cons of the various phones they have. When they get to the focus, the store rep talks about how it's one of their best selling phones even though it doesn't have a SAmoled screen. I chime in with a "Yes it does" and the rep looks kinda irritated.
Then he's talking about how it doesn't have 4G like the iPhone and I'm like "The Iphone doesn't have 4G". Then the other rep starts screaming "Android is the future. it has 100k apps compared to WP7".
I say "Way to compare 3 months to 3 years buddy" He starts talking about how Android is killing everything at which point we both walk out kinda irritated by the moron.
He didn't even realize I wasn't even anti-Android. I just hate fanatical fans.
Anyone else experience crap like this?
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so where was this? as in state... city...
thats hilarious
lekki said:
So my buddy wants a smartphone finally so I tell him about the Nexus S and WP7 (focus) in this case since he's on ATT.
He really liked the way the Nexus S felt but I convinced him to go give the focus a try. He is very much on the fence since he likes the moving backgrounds of Android but also liked the integration of my WP7 device.
Anyway, we go to the ATT store and we're getting the pros and cons of the various phones they have. When they get to the focus, the store rep talks about how it's one of their best selling phones even though it doesn't have a SAmoled screen. I chime in with a "Yes it does" and the rep looks kinda irritated.
Then he's talking about how it doesn't have 4G like the iPhone and I'm like "The Iphone doesn't have 4G". Then the other rep starts screaming "Android is the future. it has 100k apps compared to WP7".
I say "Way to compare 3 months to 3 years buddy" He starts talking about how Android is killing everything at which point we both walk out kinda irritated by the moron.
He didn't even realize I wasn't even anti-Android. I just hate fanatical fans.
Anyone else experience crap like this?
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They are both practically the same phone with the exception of some really minor difference.
Maybe the rep is kind of stupid, anyone that has seen a SuperAMOLED screen before in their life can tell the Focus has SuperAMOLED.
To be honest, the last time I went to a store to check out a phone was at an Apple store (actually I was there to fix my iPod Touch). And before that was at the Microsoft store (I ended up looking at the Alienware m17x). Although back in the June the people at the T-Mobile store were pretty unbiased in terms of OS (okay, well T-Mobile had a bad selection).
id b pissed too!
kawgirlval69 said:
so where was this? as in state... city...
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Des Plaines, IL. Not telling exactly where in case there are crazies on this forum that will actually go start sh1t.
Man, that's just silly. Unfortunately, it also seems to be somewhat common.
The sales reps I've spoken to here were equally as ignorant, but they weren't fanboys or derogatory - they just didn't really care much. They were friendly, though, and were quite willing to talk about what they did know and admit when what they were saying was personal opinion. Maybe that's just more of the prevailing attitude in the south, though.
AT&T instore reps for the most part are clueless!! I was calling on 11.5.10 asking about WP7 phones and they didnt have a clue what I was talking about. That's 3 days before launch. They tell you what ever is going to put $$ in their pockets. They think beause AT&T gave them a spec sheet that GOD must have wrote it. When I bought my Focus on Day 1 I would have bet everything I own that I knew more about WP7 devices and the OS then every employee in the store combined. Which doesnt say much since it was my first smart phone and I don't code or anything special. I just read, read a lot, and use good judgement to decipher truth from fiction.
Niiceg said:
Wow ;D That man is really stupid I hate when there are people who work in mobile sectors and don't know a **** about everything else, than their beloved smart phones This way, it was Android and iOS Android has lots, lots, lots of **** apps though. Well, I would argue till closing hours to those *****es ;D
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+1. I would've tore into that idiot and just humiliated him in front of the whole store. Show the manager what kind of ignorant dip**** he has working there.
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Des Plaines, IL. Not telling exactly where in case there are crazies on this forum that will actually go start sh1t.
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just wanted to know to AVOID that store if it were close to me....
Saturday i went in a t-mobile store to look at the blackberries and when i reached for the hd7 near it the rep said "don't recommend."
That's all she said, but i wasnt there for that anyways, so it really dodnt bother me much...
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there are alwyas going to be some idiots in any field no matter what.
saying that one dude didn't know what he was talking about doesn't suggest anything about WP7, Android or anything, it just means you had the bad luck of talking with an idiot.
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there are alwyas going to be some idiots in any field no matter what.
saying that one dude didn't know what he was talking about doesn't suggest anything about WP7, Android or anything, it just means you had the bad luck of talking with an idiot.
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I know this...that was the whole point of this thread. Am I missing your point?
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I know this...that was the whole point of this thread. Am I missing your point?
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apparently.
The point is that it would be like if I opened a thread going
"so I walk into a Burger King and this dude is like "hey man the new chicken sandwich has mayo" and im like "no bro, it has mustard" and he's like totally clueless and I'm like "what an idiot"
It seems like a pointless story unless you're implying that other personnel have some kind of vendetta against WP7 or something.
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apparently.
The point is that it would be like if I opened a thread going
"so I walk into a Burger King and this dude is like "hey man the new chicken sandwich has mayo" and im like "no bro, it has mustard" and he's like totally clueless and I'm like "what an idiot"
It seems like a pointless story unless you're implying that other personnel have some kind of vendetta against WP7 or something.
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Then you missed the point about how people who are supposed to be able to represent the OS to make commission can't even do that and when push comes to shove, spew incoherence instead.
It happens in T-Mobile stores and ATT stores. It's bound to happen in the Sprint and Verizon stores when they get their CDMA phones too.
People love to point to sales figures yet if the points of sale offer resistance, how the hell will the OS do well?
I'm sorry I needed to spell it out for you
that was my point.
you can't just say "because one d-bag didn't know anything then that means it's a problem in so many other stores" because I can point out instances where some tmobile rep didn't know the first thing about Android trying to sell a freaking blackberry or some other garbage.
It doesn't mean anything, just one idiot in one store. Go into another store and see how many reps are trying to pimp WP7.
I just find this to be a funny story. I experience this every time I go into a t-mobile store for a new phone. They try to tell me why I should get this or why I should get this. I always tell no that's alright I just show me the phone I want so i can demo it just to make sure I want the phone
Store to Store
It depends on the store and people in it, it varies from store to store. I bought my Focus at a store in NW NJ where the manager was very knowledgeable and so was the assistant manager. The Assistant manager just came back from WP7 training and had some great advice that he shared. I wasn't pressured, they helped me decide between the 3 devices and put up with me returning to the store three times while I was researching my choice. This was an ATT store.
Pretty obvious that the uber microites run the show, people making totally valid points about an OS with a lack of facilities, that the OS it is replacing had in abundance are castigated and threads closed. Free speech my arse, wonder if the microsoft adverts that keep popping up could give us a clue, and there again perhaps I don't wonder. Whatever happened to democracy, are the uber microites dispensing their sponsors version of that ????
Who ever said this place was a democracy? If you don't like how it's run, maybe you shouldn't be so loyal. Plenty of other sites where you can go and be a rebel.
Personally, I just can't get enough of this place.
Same **** happens in the android section every day. Seemingly the only somewhat mature community on here is the WinMo community and that's because most of them are dinosaurs.
elyl said:
Who ever said this place was a democracy? If you don't like how it's run, maybe you shouldn't be so loyal. Plenty of other sites where you can go and be a rebel.
Personally, I just can't get enough of this place.
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Maybe I just went to a better school.
rhory said:
Maybe I just went to a better school.
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Doubt it, mate, or you wouldn't still be living in that dump Larkhall.
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rhory, do the community a favor and leave since you have such a great problem. You don't know how to share opinions, you attack people who disagree with you. You make retarded claims such as 'its a beta OS' when you have no idea what the term 'beta' means. And it gets old you trolling every single positive topic. It isn't that speech is restricted, it's that you feel the need to be a jerk in every single topic and ruin the experience.
The mods probably just don't want trolls running rampent across the forum, which on a forum like this would be easy to have happen. There isn't bias in that.
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Doubt it, mate, or you wouldn't still be living in that dump Larkhall.
HMRC Loyal RSC
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That's how I know I went to a better state school, by your not very subtle allusions.
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rhory, do the community a favor and leave since you have such a great problem. You don't know how to share opinions, you attack people who disagree with you. You make retarded claims such as 'its a beta OS' when you have no idea what the term 'beta' means. And it gets old you trolling every single positive topic. It isn't that speech is restricted, it's that you feel the need to be a jerk in every single topic and ruin the experience.
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Shouldn't you be robbing the wealth of some third world state like Alabama or Mississippi, silly me, you've already done that, now you want to applaud microite for robbing us with a piss poor product. I am only to happy that my American relations are nothing like your persona, don't worry sugar, we know how to deal with bully's on this side of the pond, a mouth like you wouldn't last two minutes.
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Shouldn't you be robbing the wealth of some third world state like Alabama or Mississippi, silly me, you've already done that, now you want to applaud microite for robbing us with a piss poor product. I am only to happy that my American relations are nothing like your persona, don't worry sugar, we know how to deal with bully's on this side of the pond, a mouth like you wouldn't last two minutes.
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Dude, you truly are a racist clown... I hope they ban you, and if they reprimand me for pointing out the obvious, that's fine, but you truly are a leech to societ, I will not be addressing you, ever again
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Dude, you truly are a racist clown... I hope they ban you, and if they reprimand me for pointing out the obvious, that's fine, but you truly are a leech to societ, I will not be addressing you, ever again
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As clowns go you are definitely the CoCo of the board, perhaps you will be able to point out any racist comments I have made, apart from pointing out that Americans I know are nothing like your ugly bullying persona, an absolute tube, I could give you lower accolades, but that will do to be going on with.
rhory said:
Shouldn't you be robbing the wealth of some third world state like Alabama or Mississippi, silly me, you've already done that, now you want to applaud microite for robbing us with a piss poor product. I am only to happy that my American relations are nothing like your persona, don't worry sugar, we know how to deal with bully's on this side of the pond, a mouth like you wouldn't last two minutes.
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Wouldn't that make Scotland a third world county as it has about the same GDP as Alabama?
Please close this unuseful thread mods
Sorry to be the adult here, were supposed to be XDA 'developers'. Save the chatter for the playground.
Tone_ said:
Wouldn't that make Scotland a third world county as it has about the same GDP as Alabama?
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If you can tell me something that a Scotsman didn't invent that was and is of use in the world today,in between building the Americas and the Commonwealth, and generally developing the world in general I might agree with you, but since you can't I won't.
Here's a little teaser for all you uber microites, what is the connection between Bill Gates, microsoft and Scotland, not withstanding a Scot being one of, if not the chief writer of microsofts global dominance.
Just a few of my countrymen and women's contribution to the world. http://tinyurl.com/4zrxkeh
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If you can tell me something that a Scotsman didn't invent that was and is of use in the world today,in between building the Americas and the Commonwealth, and generally developing the world in general I might agree with you, but since you can't I won't.
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The Internets
Invented by Al Gore who is 43% myth and 82% anti-matter and hand-made in England by Vietnamese orphans
There is no such thing as free speech without consequences. It gets tiring to hear people say I have freedom of speech. You do, but you can be censored, or penalized for some of the things that you say. This is so in every free, democratic country. Look at Slander and also Hate Speech.
Now to get to the Hate Speech aspect - you want your members to express themselves without negatively impacting on the other members. We all have different personalities and idea and to properly manage a forum to ensure that everyone gets to express themselves without negatively impacting on other members is not easy since we can be hedonistic.
Anyone that has read your posts in the Windows Phone 7 forum gets your point. You think the OS is garbage and not fit to be sold. You could easily just move on, but you do not. I am not your psychologist so I will not bother trying to explain why.
But maybe, just maybe it is you. It is a difficult concept for one's ego to accept. The Cheers song works well in these cases:
Wouldn't you like to get away?
Sometimes you want to go
Where everybody knows your name,
and they're always glad you came.
You wanna be where you can see,
our troubles are all the same
You wanna be where everybody knows
Your name.
FiyaFleye said:
rhory, do the community a favor and leave since you have such a great problem. You don't know how to share opinions, you attack people who disagree with you. You make retarded claims such as 'its a beta OS' when you have no idea what the term 'beta' means. And it gets old you trolling every single positive topic. It isn't that speech is restricted, it's that you feel the need to be a jerk in every single topic and ruin the experience.
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I just want to point out that I always enjoy reading your posts. You seem to a level-headed and well thought out person. Kudos for trying to talk sense to this idiot.
nicksti said:
There is no such thing as free speech without consequences. It gets tiring to hear people say I have freedom of speech. You do, but you can be censored, or penalized for some of the things that you say. This is so in every free, democratic country. Look at Slander and also Hate Speech.
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I'm sorry to say, but if free speech has such consequences like censorship then it is no longer free speech. That being said, a forum is one of the last places on earth where you would be able to use free speech. Forums have been censored due to political or personal opinions for years. Also democratic countries do not support free speech. They do accept a wider range of topics in the "media" then other governments would allow, but they definitely do not condone free speech.
rhory said:
Just a few of my countrymen and women's contribution to the world. http://tinyurl.com/4zrxkeh
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What an old and questionable list of inventions - think you are getting inventions and patents confused. Has Scotland forgot how to innovate\invent?
Still does not change your GDP being less than the 3rd world stated you mentioned.
I hate even giving threads like this any attention, but it's hard to not just ask every time, If you don't like it, why are you here? Let others talk about the OS without having to sift through your stupid threads and pointless rants. If you don't like it... go away. Stop acting like an infant.
From: http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-...itterwp&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
“Many of you are making critical comments here which are certainly fair. First, I was wrong when I said “most people have received the February update.” There are many of you who have yet to receive it, and I don’t blame you for speaking up and pointing out my mistake. Second, I referred to our updates as “complete” because I was thinking of the internal process where we pass completed software to another group who delivers them – but of course no update is complete until you all have it. Plus, at the time I did the interview we had started the NoDo (“march update”) delivery process and I knew “it was going well” from our perspective: people were officially getting it, the success rate of its deployment on real-world phones was looking good, and we were happy that the process had STARTED well. Still—these are NOT the same as all of you getting it and I’m sorry that I came across as insensitive to that fact.
I am a very, very big advocate for all our end-users and developers, and it bothers me a lot if I sounded out of touch. I wasn’t as prepared for this interview as I should have been—I walked into the studio with an informal state of mind, thinking about MIX and what we WILL be talking about, and I didn’t have the right up-to-date information to give a good explanation on updates which I know to be a very high-interest topic right now.
I have read all of the comments here (and many of them on the other blogs) and so has pretty much everyone in our management team. We know it’s been frustrating to wait for features/fixes and (probably worse) to hear little from us on specific dates. We are sorry the process has been rocky. The “where’s my phone update” table is our first step to try to remedy this in the face of technical problems that have made our first wave of updates take longer than we expected. We know the table would benefit greatly from more detail, and we are hoping to add more to it by working with the Operators who own the “testing” phase to get more clarity. If your phone is shown in “scheduling”, it’ll be worth checking the table next week.
In the spirit of “MIX as a conversation” – I will make sure that when I show up in Vegas that I’m well prepared to give an update in person and to try to answer your questions as best I can. You folks are obviously a very important audience for us and it’s right for you to expect us to communicate and execute better. I know at this point it’s our actions that matter… The main thing we are trying to do is to get the updates out to everyone in a way that is reliable and works, and then make our process better and more transparent in the future.”
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awwwwwww im not mad at them anymore. vattay cutie
let's be real. I wasn't mad, but is this enough to shut the burn microsoft to the ground crowd away? I'm not sure...
Transparency is always better than non transparency.
It's really, really nice to hear that they know they have made it wrong. I love it. Everybody does.
But it would be better to hear that the update is going right, and we gonna receive it in the next few days.
mikeeam said:
It's really, really nice to hear that they know they have made it wrong. I love it. Everybody does.
But it would be better to hear that the update is going right, and we gonna receive it in the next few days.
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Admitting you were wrong doesn't make it any less wrong.
I'm through with them.
They had to admit after seeing all the comments pretty much everywhere online and from the bloggers. Here's where it started. http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Coun...-Joe-Belfiore-Talks-Phone#c634367845660000000
N8ter said:
Admitting you were wrong doesn't make it any less wrong.
I'm through with them.
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+1
Fool me once........
I cannot accept it. My HD7 is non-brand and doesn't receive the NoDo update til now.
I don't rally care about excuses, and I am still pissed, and I have still not got the NoDo. However, I give MS some credit, since at least they show their customers they care by making statements like this, and admit everything is not always sunshine and cloudless skies. Compared to Crapple (Apple), who always denies- or don't say a word to their "customers" that they actually do **** up sometimes.
And that Joe Belfiore I really like, he seems to be the perfect guy as Director of Windows Phone 7. And he's funny to.
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I don't rally care about excuses, and I am still pissed, and I have still not got the NoDo. However, I give MS some credit, since at least they show their customers they care by making statements like this, and admit everything is not always sunshine and cloudless skies. Compared to Crapple (Apple), who always denies- or don't say a word to their "customers" that they actually do **** up sometimes.
And that Joe Belfiore I really like, he seems to be the perfect guy as Director of Windows Phone 7. And he's funny to.
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Whatever Crapple says they deliver which is exactly why they are kicking everyone's ass whether you hate to admit it or are totally in denial. You give MS credit because they finally admitted after being cornered by WP7 users and had no way out BUT to admit it. It's like saying well let the bank robber go free because he at least admitted his crime. So you like Belfiore because he is funny and can entertain you? WOW!! Maybe MS should hire Jerry Seinfeld or (choose your favorite comedian) to be the Director of WP7. It's become a joke anyway so might as well hire comedians!
I respect Joe Belfiore for admitting his/Microsoft's mistake. But as that as for Eric Hautala, he is a complete joke.
Look at all the complains ppl have made over at Windows Phone Blog, hundreds after hundreds and he doesn't even stands up to say a single word.
What kind on a General Manager, Customer Experience Engineering is he???
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Whatever Crapple says they deliver which is exactly why they are kicking everyone's ass whether you hate to admit it or are totally in denial. You give MS credit because they finally admitted after being cornered by WP7 users and had no way out BUT to admit it. It's like saying well let the bank robber go free because he at least admitted his crime. So you like Belfiore because he is funny and can entertain you? WOW!! Maybe MS should hire Jerry Seinfeld or (choose your favorite comedian) to be the Director of WP7. It's become a joke anyway so might as well hire comedians!
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I'm going off topic here, but..
Well yes, Apple deliver updates flawlessly. However, they totally deny any design flaws of their hardware in their products - witch cannot be fixed with software. The iPhone 3G/S, cracks everywhere on the plastic backside and it got tons of dust under the screen. Also, the Macbook cracks. The Iphone 4 antenna design flaw - very well known but Apple denies there is anything wrong. Their response is simply "don't hold it that way" and a short while after, they kick the responsible person for the antenna design out of the company, lol. I guess the guys at Apple is the real comedians.
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Well yes, Apple deliver updates flawlessly.
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People seem to forget that Apple had growing pains with iOS as well and had major issues when they first started to push out version 3. When it all happened they just shrugged and kept quiet. At least MS acknowledges it, this is a step int eh right direction. Now they just need to move fast and fix it all or quit telling people when something is coming out.
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Admitting you were wrong doesn't make it any less wrong.
I'm through with them.
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Does this mean you'll be through with the wp7 found as well??? ;-)
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Well hopefully they will get their **** together, and to get people happy may push out the mango update sooner?? Who knows.
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People seem to forget that Apple had growing pains with iOS as well and had major issues when they first started to push out version 3. When it all happened they just shrugged and kept quiet. At least MS acknowledges it, this is a step int eh right direction. Now they just need to move fast and fix it all or quit telling people when something is coming out.
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Yeah, even Apple make mistakes. And they don't admit. There is a lot of examples of that. Still, sooner or later, they fix it. And most of the time, sooner. And when they say that they have an update, well, I envy that, everyone is able to download and update their iPhones when they want, not when carrier want, or when it is available for you.
And yes, I didn't forget that Apple just handle one phone. With just one single phone they choose the way of the whole smartphone market. And they are good at that.
Let's not forget that they learn with their mistakes. And it is really nice.
Apple was able to release iOS update before schedule and a patch shortly after all through the same carrier that Microsoft has problem to push through, AT&T.
In my book, Microsoft dropped the ball big time. And they still have no clue how to fix this. Sorry to say, at this time Microsoft lost all the credibility to me for their ability to successfully push the WP7 platform forward. Yes, WP7 will still survive - in the form of millions of cheap, low end, low resolution Nokia phones that most of us simply don't care about.
I'd love to see MS show me otherwise. But I doubt it. Big corporations don't turn around quickly unless they have a strong leader. Steve B is simply a corporate bean counter, not a leader.
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I don't rally care about excuses, and I am still pissed, and I have still not got the NoDo. However, I give MS some credit, since at least they show their customers they care by making statements like this, and admit everything is not always sunshine and cloudless skies. Compared to Crapple (Apple), who always denies- or don't say a word to their "customers" that they actually do **** up sometimes.
And that Joe Belfiore I really like, he seems to be the perfect guy as Director of Windows Phone 7. And he's funny to.
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They don't care. They just could not talk their way out of it. If they could, they would.
Apple supports their products, so I can give a flying crap what they say. I don't care what a company says, I care what they actually do.
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I'm going off topic here, but..
Well yes, Apple deliver updates flawlessly. However, they totally deny any design flaws of their hardware in their products - witch cannot be fixed with software. The iPhone 3G/S, cracks everywhere on the plastic backside and it got tons of dust under the screen. Also, the Macbook cracks. The Iphone 4 antenna design flaw - very well known but Apple denies there is anything wrong. Their response is simply "don't hold it that way" and a short while after, they kick the responsible person for the antenna design out of the company, lol. I guess the guys at Apple is the real comedians.
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WP7 has poor reception issues, which is worse than Antennagate because for an iPhone all you needed was a bumper or a case. You can't fix the poor reception in WP7 devices so easily.
I routinely get 3 bars in an HSPA+ market where my Vibrant has 5 bars and a 3.3+ mbps download speed. Call quality is noticeably worse (not even comparable, TBQH) and download speeds are much slower. I know one other person with an HD7 and he said "the phone is okay, but the call quality is ****."
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ng-focus/5b7bc221-2982-4813-95f1-a8c88bfd2e86
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...software/cf6cb222-7fe7-4c0c-92c0-357bf4cc44d1
Also, the HD7 exibits the same issue as the iPhone 4, except it has poorer reception/signal quality overall:
http://www.gsmdome.com/htc/htc-hd7-antenna-problems-explained-by-companys-spokesman_20065
Focus, Omnia 7, HD7 (I experience the bad signal quality personally). I'm willing to bet the issue is Microsoft's coding, and not the hardware. WP7 makes a worse phone than the iPhone, and a worse Smartphone than pretty much anything barring some feature phones.
Dunno where the Apple hate is coming form, but clearly some people only count the negatives of the platforms they don't like. Microsoft's handling of WP7 is making Apple look like a champ.
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Maybe if you learned how to write cohesive and comprehensible statements I'd be able to answer that.
You're not from out of the country, so there's no excuse for your inability to do so...
Yup we all needed to have "that" thread to make incompetent people sush
My friend keeps nagging me about her iphone 4s and that useless siri. Post pictures or short videos to show that we are superior! I just want to win for argument's sake
Make this thread fun and amusing as possible
Ask her how much an extended battery is for her phone....or maybe ask her to show u her sd card slot. No? How about 4.52in of amoled+ goodness?
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chrisbass said:
Ask her how much an extended battery is for her phone....or maybe ask her to show u her sd card slot. No? How about 4.52in of amoled+ goodness?
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See the thing is, iphone users arent even that "technical" and her arguement would be like "so what, mine does more and still better"...lol
Screw Siri,
ask her what she does when her battery craps out? Or when she wants more ROM? Android is so far superior than that iCrap. We are not proprietary like iCrap!
Video, Video, we don't need no stinkin Video's......
rdisanza said:
Screw Siri,
ask her what she does when her battery craps out? Or when she wants more ROM? Android is so far superior than that iCrap. We are not proprietary like iCrap!
Video, Video, we don't need no stinkin Video's......
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ive always tried going technical and stuff but they just never understand! lmfao
Widgets... end of debate...
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Ask what happens when your friend is trying to use siri in a room where so many people are talking loudly?
Not having to use iTunes was worth switching to android on its own.
I'm not going to lie to you...from a technology standpoint, Siri is pretty excellent. I do hope Google catches up in regard to setting reminders, calendar events and non-email notes via Voice.
On the other hand, who wants to pay an exorbitant cost on a dated framework, unreliable service and 100% liability device? Anybody...anybody...Bueller?
Didn't think so.
Plus the screen is just so gosh darn teeny. Feh..
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All I see is an app drawer when I look at an iphone. I always said there's more to a phone than just apps. Yes widgets, extended batteries, expandable memory, hacking, launchers, keyboards, fonts, themes, live wallpapers, huge screen, not having to use iTunes, endless customizing. Only Borg type people are iphone users. Plus your supporting shady business practice.
The biggest turn off is the tiny screen. Ive also told people I couldnt deal with such a small screen.
Why do we have to argue/debate with people over this? My brother and his gf both have iPhone 4S's, I don't give a ****, that's their choice. I don't get the constant competing with users of cell phone OS's.
I usually don't but once in a while you'll get that smug ifan android basher that has no clue what their talking about. OP just wants a few talking points to shut them up.
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IPhone is a smartphone for dumb people.
Tiny screen is unacceptable.
Slave to apples dictatorship on how your phone will look and operate.
Supporting a company that competes through litigation instead of innovation in a free market.
Overpriced handsets with sub par specs and quality. $750 for the 4s? Seriously? My ET4g has 48 gigs of memory.
Apple products are made with Samsung parts and at the same time trying to sue them and ban their products.
cds0699 said:
Why do we have to argue/debate with people over this? My brother and his gf both have iPhone 4S's, I don't give a ****, that's their choice. I don't get the constant competing with users of cell phone OS's.
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Thread is for fun, relax buddy xD. And i just need some counter arguments from a friend who attacked me first! haha
How about about some 100MPH tape over her smug mouth so you don't have to hear it? There is no talking reason with those lemmings who follow the pied piper. The music is all they hear. Agree to disagree.
locoboi187 said:
Thread is for fun, relax buddy xD. And i just need some counter arguments from a friend who attacked me first! haha
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I'm very relaxed, I just tend to ignore people that are immature enough to attack me over my choice in a cell phone. Just was merely trying to show that its a silly waste of time to debate people over this, when in the end their gonna make their own choices.... which is what I personally love the most about Android, choice.
cds0699 said:
I'm very relaxed, I just tend to ignore people that are immature enough to attack me over my choice in a cell phone. Just was merely trying to show that its a silly waste of time to debate people over this, when in the end their gonna make their own choices.... which is what I personally love the most about Android, choice.
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It's not a debate! lol. I just need reasons and as I said, this is for fun. So this is just a way to kill time
locoboi187 said:
Yup we all needed to have "that" thread to make incompetent people sush
My friend keeps nagging me about her iphone 4s and that useless siri. Post pictures or short videos to show that we are superior! I just want to win for argument's sake
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...Is she a barista?
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How about the most basic of facts...just tell her, "hey, I get why you love that i-thing...who do you think made that processor and pixel-dense screen?...SAMSUNG" That's always a fun fact to throw at 'em. Good times =D
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phatmanxxl said:
I usually don't but once in a while you'll get that smug ifan android basher that has no clue what their talking about. OP just wants a few talking points to shut them up.
Best ones:
IPhone is a smartphone for dumb people.
Tiny screen is unacceptable.
Slave to apples dictatorship on how your phone will look and operate.
Supporting a company that competes through litigation instead of innovation in a free market.
Overpriced handsets with sub par specs and quality.
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I've used both platforms extensively and there are definitely strengths and weaknesses to them both. The arguments back and forth can be pretty funny especially on forums like Engadget. The statement that iPhone users are dumb though is one argument that I find ridiculous. Out of all my friends i am definitely the most tech literate. I flash roms, theme my phones, even write some applications. A lot of the people I know that use iPhones are doctors and lawyers, but don't have that much interest or the time for technology so simple is good. To think you are smarter than someone because you can switch out your launcher or overclock your phone is pretty stupid to begin with. Most of this is just effort. You are probably kidding, so not directed at you... this just always comes up in these "discussiond" especially when folks starting getting personal. Cheers.
patrick_1 said:
How about the most basic of facts...just tell her, "hey, I get why you love that i-thing...who do you think made that processor and pixel-dense screen?...SAMSUNG" That's always a fun fact to throw at 'em. Good times =D
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GOOD ONE!
I was listening to music on my verizon note 7 and the headphones got pulled out on accident. Now I can only hear music out of the left headphone [emoji20] I tried other headphones and they have sound in both... these are the headphones that came with my note 7. Are they broken or am I able to fix them somehow?
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most likely not, the wires inside are very thin, and, would be very difficult to locate the place that got torn, sorry
Just drop in at the retailer you bought it from and say... hey this one doesn't work in 1 ear - do I need time exchange the whole phone or can you just swap out the headphones...
99 percent chance that will work if you DON'T start talking about a bunch of extra stuff like "I was using them earlier and they were fine - then I yanked them out by the cord and they don't work... "
I worked in retail 15 years... keep it SIMPLE and don't elaborate... ex : i bought these - they don't work - what do I do...
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You are an ... asshole! You are everything that is wrong with the Western society, a thieving asshole lacking any morals or self respect. Sorry.
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Jeez... all over a weak headphone that came from a 700 phone... are you honestly that GREAT of a person to judge me sooo harshly about my earbud replacement moral??
Haha... I get it - I really do but man you are pretty righteous... a thieving asshole - everything that's wrong with society ... your making me blush...
You must be like the awesomest person... filled with morals and a ton of anger ...
What makes a person who cusses someone out more righteous than the person he is cussing out. You know what? You're right, what he suggest is not right but to cuss him out like that is no better.
I would have had respect for you if you would have told him in a respectful way. Actually you are what's wrong with society today also. So much anger and judgment in people these days.
Try and be respectful about it and maybe that person would take you seriously.
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nabbed said:
You are an ... asshole! You are everything that is wrong with the Western society, a thieving asshole lacking any morals or self respect. Sorry.
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What do you think big business does? They're always stealing. Just /legally/.
I 100% agree with Braca Ganon. You should be able to get them free if you keep it simple.
just one more thing, karma
Sirdragonx said:
What makes a person who cusses someone out more righteous than the person he is cussing out. You know what? You're right, what he suggest is not right but to cuss him out like that is no better.
I would have had respect for you if you would have told him in a respectful way. Actually you are what's wrong with society today also. So much anger and judgment in people these days.
Try and be respectful about it and maybe that person would take you seriously.
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Thanks for your help with that... I see he has deleted his comment... haha
I don't understand adults getting soooooo mad about a strangers opinion. Especially with the elections coming up -
Anyway, hope you have a GREAT WEEKEND
Thanks for the input guys haha sucks it had to get to this level haha
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