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I've been using the Droid Turbo since the original launch date. I picked up the Turbo 2 this morning on the way to the office. Here are my observations thus far:
Good
Turbo charging is much faster.
The screen quality is great (plastic smchmastic!)
Power and volume buttons are improved.
This puppy is fast!
Android 5.1.1 is snappy.
New Moto tools are nice. I'm fond of "lift for voice."
The form factor is an improvement over the Turbo.
Addition of the SD card is very welcome!
I prefer the soft touch material to the Kevlar or ballistic nylon options on the Turbo.
The camera is surprisingly good and has zero shutter lag. It took some good pictures in low light.
Drum roll please... The volume is excellent!!!
Not so good
Do they have to keep making them bigger?
Did I mention it's bigger?
A fingerprint scanner would have been a welcomed addition.
In case you hadn't noticed, it's bigger.
Silly little Verizon logo on the chin is unnecessary.
I'll update this list throughout the day.
Thank you for posting. I am planning on a trip to Verizon after work to take a look, possibly buying if they have color combos that I like.
My questions, if you have time.
Are the front speakers stereo and how well does it work with the bottom one cut in half?
How is the screen in sunlight?
Martingitdave said:
I've been using the Droid Turbo since the original launch date. I picked up the Turbo 2 this morning on the way to the office. Here are my observations thus far:
I'll update this list throughout the day.
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Any chance you can post a photo/vid of the screens side by side on like min/mid/max brightness?
I have a Maxx, but won the DT2 during the droidseeker disaster yesterday
Sorry. I traded in the Turbo. Congrats on winning one. I got kicked out of the game 5 times with no success.
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Martingitdave said:
Sorry. I traded in the Turbo. Congrats on winning one. I got kicked out of the game 5 times with no success.
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ah, damn. Would you say its comparable? Heard some questions about the increased "gap" between the front panels and the actual screen underneath.
Re: winning, i got really lucky got booted alllllll day, then around 10 ish i gave it "one last shot" & it just started working perfectly.
So screen ISNT a downgrade despite 500 layers of materials? Did you have a chance to put the Turbo and Turbo-2 side by side to compare? Thats one thing definitely concerning me.
Also, I assume the speakers, despite 2 grills, are NOT stereo, right? Can you confirm that? glad to hear volume is improved.
calash said:
Thank you for posting. I am planning on a trip to Verizon after work to take a look, possibly buying if they have color combos that I like.
My questions, if you have time.
Are the front speakers stereo and how well does it work with the bottom one cut in half?
How is the screen in sunlight?
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I can't speak to being stereo, or not. The sound is very good. The screen is much easier to read in daylight than my Droid Turbo.
asuhoops8628 said:
ah, damn. Would you say its comparable? Heard some questions about the increased "gap" between the front panels and the actual screen underneath.
Re: winning, i got really lucky got booted alllllll day, then around 10 ish i gave it "one last shot" & it just started working perfectly.
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Perhaps, but I can't find fault with it. Probably more black around the screen then some of the newer slimmer phones.
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I can't speak to being stereo, or not. The sound is very good. The screen is much easier to read in daylight than my Droid Turbo.
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I've read reviews that say only the right portion of the bottom speaker bit is actually used for music/speakerphone. No idea if they knew what they were talking about though. Could the bit to the left just be for looks?
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So screen ISNT a downgrade despite 500 layers of materials? Did you have a chance to put the Turbo and Turbo-2 side by side to compare? Thats one thing definitely concerning me.
Also, I assume the speakers, despite 2 grills, are NOT stereo, right? Can you confirm that? glad to hear volume is improved.
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No, as far as I am concerned the screen quality is at least equal.
Yeah I'd say the negatives pretty much come down to:
1. Big
2. No fingerprint scanner yet
3. Screen size is not as big as it could be, verizon logo, lost some of the aesthetic appeal since the Moto X
Fwiw I looked at four different T2s and every screen was dark and dingy compared to my Pure with full brightness on all of them.
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At the Verizon store last night. Thanks to a non-motivated sales person I did not leave with one, but I got mine ordered on Moto-maker under contract.
The screen was fine for me holding it next to a HTC One M7. I may be more forgiving than others so a personal inspection is a real good idea.
This may just be me but I was kind of expecting stereo speaker output and this is not the case. Youtube played from the lower speaker area on the demo units at Verizon.
Edit: On a side note, does Motomaker normally ship in less than 24 hours? I put in my order at 10pm and this morning Verizon sent me tracking info. That seems a bit fast...I hope they get my order right.
I overheard a sales person saying that they give you a code to follow up with Moto directly. No idea if this is true. Probably a lot of confusion with a new program.
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At the Verizon store last night. Thanks to a non-motivated sales person I did not leave with one, but I got mine ordered on Moto-maker under contract.
The screen was fine for me holding it next to a HTC One M7. I may be more forgiving than others so a personal inspection is a real good idea.
This may just be me but I was kind of expecting stereo speaker output and this is not the case. Youtube played from the lower speaker area on the demo units at Verizon.
Edit: On a side note, does Motomaker normally ship in less than 24 hours? I put in my order at 10pm and this morning Verizon sent me tracking info. That seems a bit fast...I hope they get my order right.
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I put a motomaker order in at about 9pm last night, by 1030, it was "being built." I could see it shipping in 24 hours based on this. I seem to remember hearing motomaker would be 1-2 days to build.
Against my principle of waiting for it to have android 6 (so I have no right to complain if it takes forever to get marshmallow... I knew better Lol), I picked up a turbo 2 today.
So far I like it a lot. I was worried about the screen being too detached with all of the layers, and while it does seem farther away than on my note 5, it isn't a big deal to me.
No fingerprint scanner isn't a big deal to me since I have a moto 360, and use it as a trusted device.
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Picked up a dt2 today. Traded in my old lg g2. Loved my droid maxx and still have it as a backup phone. So far I'm really liking this phone. Screen is bright and ui seems fast. Camera is OK but I've seen better. Fp scanner would have been nice but not a have to for me right now. Under development option there's a unlock oem bootloader toggle. Not sure what's that about. It can't be that easy. Yeah the split grills at bottom are not too attractive but hey who really looks at your phone but you. It's not that big a deal to me. Sound is pretty good. Overall I'm happy.
So been away from XDA for a while but just picked up my Droid Turbo 2 and loving it so far... Nice solid build quality, solid reception, Ballistic material has a nice feel, cameras are typical moto in my opinion but good enough for my use... the front flash for the times when the gf wants a selfie is going to be a big plus... overall very pleased so far... looking forward to more time with this device....
Also OEM (bootloader unlocking) has a toggle under developer options so maybe it wont be so locked down...
Just ordered my Turbo2.
Considering I was able to get the trade-in promo of $300 value for my existing Turbo, and use account upgrade on the new Turbo2, I'm actually coming out ahead. Wow.
Awesomeness.
Goodbye root
rajuabju said:
Just ordered my Turbo2.
Considering I was able to get the trade-in promo of $300 value for my existing Turbo, and use account upgrade on the new Turbo2, I'm actually coming out ahead. Wow.
Awesomeness.
Goodbye root
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Really? I was going to order online and was going to do the promotion of the trade in, but they only appraised my Turbo at a value of $191
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HTC 10 owners speak up! How great is your 10 let everyone know how well yours is built and holding up. Also your first impressions, the knock your socks off experience unfortunately mine shipped while I was on vacation and is sitting at home waiting on me. Will report on Monday when I get home! Can't wait!
From the 7-ish hours I've had mine, it has 100% completely lived up to the hype and has been an enormous upgrade from my One m9. I have absolutely zero build quality, screen, or performance issues. The camera is miles ahead of the m9's and I can't wait for the 1.30 software update to hit my phone which will make it even better. Also, one thing that really stood out is just how fast and accurate the fingerprint scanner is. The capacitive button idea is simply perfect for a fingerprint scanner. There's no way I can go back to a phone without a fingerprint scanner now.
My absolute biggest complaint (if you can call it that) is the position of the headphone jack. I've gotten used to having it on the bottom of the phone which fits best with my personal usage since I place a phone top-down in my pocket. I'm not sure this even qualifies as a problem and I know I'll get used to it quickly.
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From the 7-ish hours I've had mine, it has 100% completely lived up to the hype and has been an enormous upgrade from my One m9. I have absolutely zero build quality, screen, or performance issues. The camera is miles ahead of the m9's and I can't wait for the 1.30 software update to hit my phone which will make it even better. Also, one thing that really stood out is just how fast and accurate the fingerprint scanner is. The capacitive button idea is simply perfect for a fingerprint scanner. There's no way I can go back to a phone without a fingerprint scanner now.
My absolute biggest complaint (if you can call it that) is the position of the headphone jack. I've gotten used to having it on the bottom of the phone which fits best with my personal usage since I place a phone top-down in my pocket. I'm not sure this even qualifies as a problem and I know I'll get used to it quickly.
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You are really making me anxious to get my hands on mine!!!
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You are really making me anxious to get my hands on mine!!!
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Let me tell you, you will not be disappointed! The 10 is, without a doubt, the best android experience currently available.
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Guessing this one's still open then? Lol
Did u get any delivery news mate?
U guys won't be disappointed. Mines coming next week and I'm convinced still despite the launch BS That it's gonna be a cracker.
Carbon grey ten for me, looking forward to that sexy 2.5d glass on a black front and grey device.
Drooling over next week!
I was working on the wrong thread! LOL
Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
@Stephen hahaha
I'm coming from the m9 so the ten will be like well u all Know of course
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Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
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How you finding size difference, I'm in a 6P and bothered about smaller screen
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eneka said:
Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
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Hmm. I also using the 6p. Please explain how and why
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Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
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Yes also I had the 6p, I found it too big and clunky. I currently have the Lumia 950xl. While it is also a 5.7" screen, it is quite a bit smaller and lighter than the 6p. I also really did not like the camera strip at the back. Just could not get used to that at all.
I came from the shamu to the 6p so the screen size didn't bother me, and the phenomenal camera on the 6p made up for the ugly glass strip. Overall I'm extremely happy with the 6p but I have always been an HTC fan,(I of course had the M9 and A9 both in between, but both had their limitations) so I'm really really anxious to try a more pure stock sense experience coupled with very promising hardware!!
How is the notification sound for you guys? Idk if it is my unit, or its me, or they are all in general like that but the notification sound is kinda muffled
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How you finding size difference, I'm in a 6P and bothered about smaller screen
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That's one of the main reasons I switched, the 6p was just was just to big for me. Loving the smaller screen size.
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Hmm. I also using the 6p. Please explain how and why
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The HTC 10 feel a whole lot more solid and heftier. The fit and finish just feels nicer, no mismatching plastics or pieces that aren't flush, there is no black plastic "ring" around the screen that dents and comes off easily, button feel more solid
I used to be diehard pure Android only and have tried different skins over the years, even stuff like PA or some other custom wrong. But I'm finding myself liking sense a lot. Hated the previous version on my One S. I am itching to root just so I can block ads...
the way i would describe it is real metal especially compared to the A9 and X9 (which has thin metal like the iPhone)
the 10 is simply steel and glass, with no plastics in your sight (except the hidden strips)
overall a screaming premium feel, my TPU case is killing the whole aura so i am really anxious for my Spigen ExactFit to arrive, also the Fitbag black rave pouch looks amazingly classy with it
My eyesight isn't what it used to be so I've been using phablets - Note 2, Note 4, Moto X Pure Edition - and I was a little worried about the smaller screen size on the HTC 10. I've discovered, however, that it's very easy for me to read the HTC 10 screen. I prefer Sense over TouchWiz, but I've been spoiled by the flexibility of Nova Prime and I installed it on my HTC 10 after about an hour. So far, I'm very pleased with the HTC 10. I'll know more after I've used it for a week or two.
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Perry977 said:
How is the notification sound for you guys? Idk if it is my unit, or its me, or they are all in general like that but the notification sound is kinda muffled
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I'm hard of hearing but I can easily hear the notification sound on my HTC 10, even without my hearing aids.
I got mine yesterday (so far I love it) and I just now noticed there is a slight gap between the top of the screen and the frame. Has anyone else noticed this?
OK after having phone a solid 8 hours with 80% of my apps installed compared to Samsung S7 Edge is a mini review:
Nice build quality, slightly smaller screen, cleaner UI but with some idiosyncrasies, very good sound, type-C connector.
I am finding the more apps I install the slower the phone is becoming with some lag and stutter, the camera is quite good but Edge is better overall especially in low light, Edge is blazing fast despite touch wiz, Edge screen is gorgeous and battery life is probably better but will withhold judgement on HTC 10 for a day or two.
Overall a very good phone but not enough to best the Edge. Marketing will be an issue for this phone and may be difficult for buyers to justify at same price point if the preorder $100 discount is not available.
The wow factor is almost there IMHO.
Will keep testing with an open mind.
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take a look at this durability video
pretty solid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ62ixgzhrI
I'm digging' the heck out of it! What a fantastic device!
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just got a pleasant surprise email, my pixel buds shipped, supposed to be delivered Tuesday. Weren't supposed to ship until the 20th.
Got mine last night been wearing them most of the day. Digging them so far.
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Got mine last night been wearing them most of the day. Digging them so far.
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How's the sound quality? I'm on the wait list, but am starting to have second thoughts. I was sold on the instant translation features, but am starting to think I should look at some more reputable headphones.
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How's the sound quality? I'm on the wait list, but am starting to have second thoughts. I was sold on the instant translation features, but am starting to think I should look at some more reputable headphones.
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I was rocking Jay Birds that are extremely loud and seal your ear cavity and get uncomfortable after an hour of use. Compared to those, not heavy bass but good clean sound, loud enough but no Jay Birds. Solid connection to ear but light comfortable feel. You can hear outside sounds well when nothing is playing. I really like them m
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Got mine last night been wearing them most of the day. Digging them so far.
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how has the battery life been, close to what they claimed?
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how has the battery life been, close to what they claimed?
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Don't know yet. They were quiet most of the day while wearing them.
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lucky! i ordered the just black version and mine is still saying it wont ship until december 4th!
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lucky! i ordered the just black version and mine is still saying it wont ship until december 4th!
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Mine December 15!!!
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Been using them for about 2 day and they are amazing ! Order mines through the Verizon store.The only issues I'm having trouble is activating Google Assistant at lock screen which seem to be a problem and Is being look over right now.
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Been using them for about 2 day and they are amazing ! Order mines through the Verizon store.The only issues I'm having trouble is activating Google Assistant at lock screen which seem to be a problem and Is being look over right now.
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For those of you waiting until December - you can order from verizon right now and get them on 11/29 - https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/google-pixel-buds-ga00205/
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Been using them for about 2 day and they are amazing ! Order mines through the Verizon store.The only issues I'm having trouble is activating Google Assistant at lock screen which seem to be a problem and Is being look over right now.
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Strictly out of curiosity, what do you find 'amazing' about them?
I've had mine for a few days now. They are great! Google translate is so cool.
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Strictly out of curiosity, what do you find 'amazing' about them?
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I have had mine for a days- I was surprised how comfortable they were once I figured out the loop and how good they sound, particularly the Bass. I was not really expecting great sound, but these are some of the best "buds" I have heard, though I normally use over the ear. Translate is really cool too.
I did have trouble getting them paired at first but now they are good
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I have had mine for a days- I was surprised how comfortable they were once I figured out the loop and how good they sound, particularly the Bass. I was not really expecting great sound, but these are some of the best "buds" I have heard, though I normally use over the ear. Translate is really cool too.
I did have trouble getting them paired at first but now they are good
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I agree, sound fantastic. I found them easy to pair.
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How's the bass with these things? been thinking of getting them but not trying to waste my time if the bass isn't there.
Finally got my shipped notice for mine ordered back on 10/5 (Black).... So, hope to see them Monday !
Had them about a week or so. Dynamic range and clarity are actually pretty decent (low to high); I'm not an audiophile, but I am pretty finicky relative to sound quality.
I have been using Sennheiser in-ear-canal type buds for several years (similar price range to these - $150). I find the Pixel buds comparable for sound quality, except for lack of noise isolation, but knew that going in.
Volume is good, even a bit LOUD at max range. I've read reports that people can hear what's playing on your Pixel Buds, so that might be an issue, say on an airplane.
My only complaint is the too coarse volume adjustment via swiping. Pixel 2 XL provides 25 increments, 0% to 100%. The Pixels buds only provide 7-8 increments. Way too coarse, resulting in a too loud or too soft result. I suspect this might be fixable in software (?). EDIT: I can press the right bud say "75% Volume" (even just "75%" will do it after an initial request), so maybe a good compromise.
My only other complaint is lack of a swipe gesture to switch tracks. I can press the right bud and say "skip" (even softly) to get the desired action, but I would prefer to simply swipe UP or DOWN to get this result. I've read this was the intended function, but might have been confusing for users compared with in-out volume gestures, and was disabled. I do like being able to say, "Thumbs Down" and Play Music will tag that song and skip to the next track.
Comfort for me has been good. The rope between the left and right buds is perfect. I'd surely lose them if not attached!
I dont understand why volume gesture couldnt be made to be up/down and track forward/back be swipe forward/back.
Appears there may be an issue with the Google Assistant not working on the Buds. Several Google forums are having this issue, as well as me. The Buds drop connection after 1-2 minutes and then have to be forgotten from the Pixel XL 2, in my case, then repaired. Once repaired the situation repeats itself. Contacted Google and they've heard of this issue. Supposed possible update comming but looks like they are RMA'ing the Buds. If you haven't used them in a while might want to check it out to see if you are having same issues.
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Appears there may be an issue with the Google Assistant not working on the Buds. Several Google forums are having this issue, as well as me. The Buds drop connection after 1-2 minutes and then have to be forgotten from the Pixel XL 2, in my case, then repaired. Once repaired the situation repeats itself. Contacted Google and they've heard of this issue. Supposed possible update comming but looks like they are RMA'ing the Buds. If you haven't used them in a while might want to check it out to see if you are having same issues.
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I tried them but returned. Got my zolo liberty + and find them to be quite a bit better.
I was wondering if anyone made that move ?
I am considering doing so, however I'd like feedbacks from people that might have done that move.
Cheers !
Paradoxxx said:
I was wondering if anyone made that move ?
I am considering doing so, however I'd like feedbacks from people that might have done that move.
Cheers !
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This is what i'm thinking of doing too. Might be worth buying one to test for yourself and send it back if you don't like the 5T? It'll be interesting to read others users thoughts on this.
Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Hey I love the 5T...the Pixel XL is junk, well, at least the screen is. It has issues no doubt. 5T screen is better IMO. Camera, obviously not as good. Neither has an external SD Card?!?!?! Why!!!!!
Anyway, for the money, 5T is hard to beat honestly. Dev support is descent, but not like HTC or Pixel/Google phones.
I had an S8+ for 1 day. Of course, since you can't root without breaking everything like Android pay and Safety Net...no thanks. The S8+ is a near perfect phone, but their abillity to allow you to unlock the bootloader and customize...is nonexistent. Got rid of it. I'm in the US, so the exynos won't work in this country which does allow bootloader unlocking...ridiculous.
I've been an HTC fan for 8yrs now. Just sold my HTC 10. The camera on this OnePlus 5 is better than anything HTC has produced ever. The camera isn't that bad. The OnePlus takes photos as good as my daughter's iPhone 7 Plus. And that camera is no slouch. In fact, head to head, my photos are often better with the 5T.
Anyway...I can imagine the 6 and 6T are going to be a pretty nice. Snapdragon 845 already confirmed for the 6 in a few months they claim it will be released.
Otherwise, I'm not personally dropping $800+ on a new phone no matter who makes it. Which rules Pixel, Huawei, Samsung whatever, and Def iPhone garbage out of the picture. I never spent more than $500-600 on any phone the last 8yrs. HTC resell is pretty good, plus I would wait about 4-6 months after their premier release version to buy it and it is discounted.
Also, my HTC 10 charge port started smelling like burning plaster and wouldn't charge. I had to send it back, and it could take 4 months for them to "evaluate" the burning in Taiwan, then send it back to Seattle, where they say they might not even replace it. They just want to examine it. It is under their uh-oh warranty...so don't know WTF they even care what has happened to it, they will give almost anybody a replacement phone.
Oh well...saw further below that you got the 5T and are keeping it. Version 6 will be out by end of March...so, take it from there. So far, really like the OnePlus...just wish it had a slightly better camera and an SDCard slot.
I was using a Pixel XL for a year and pre-ordered the Pixel 2 XL on launch day.
I got my Pixel 2 XL on October 18th and used it for 2 weeks and there were a lot of good things about it that I liked. It only had a few issues that I could not overlook:
The screen was of poor quality. I'm not talking about unsaturated looking, either. It had harsh blue shift that was impossible not to see in normal day-to-day usage. It also had very poor picture quality when used in a dark room at low brightness. Like everything was too dark yet bright parts of pictures were very bright. Like the contrast of the screen was junk. This was also apparent when viewing pictures at full brightness, but only if I held up my Pixel XL next to it and compared the two. Again, very apparent at low brightness, not as much at normal brightness. Since I like to use my phone at night in the dark, this was a huge pain point. I had no burn-in or noticeable grain in the screen. I was worried moving from a Pixel XL with a quality Samsung panel to a Pixel 2 XL with a questionable LG panel would be a problem, and I was 100% correct.
The battery charging speed. This was something that the Pixel XL wasn't very good at, and I couldn't even get 1% per minute. The Pixel 2 XL was in the same boat, slow charging. Even slower than my old S7 Edge with a larger battery!
These two things were just too much to accept with a $950 device. I returned it to Google for a full refund. Bought the 5T 128GB model on launch day and received it on Black Friday. The 5T has a good screen (like the Pixel XL) and the fastest possible charging option. I also saved like $400 buying the 5T so I got a PS 4 Pro with the extra cash. It's been the best decision I've made since buying the original Pixel XL which was a great phone.
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Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Do you have some camera samples from your S8+ that you could replicate with the 5T and share them with us ?
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Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Same here !
At first I got OnePlus 5T.. in this phone everything was great, except for camera. Camera is a complete disaster - I do not know how people can be taking decent pictures without optical image stabilization. In my case when you look carefully at edges - there was a blur. Tried many camera softwares - the phone simply can't take good pics without OIS. Based on rumors, OnePlus 6 doesn't intend to include OIS in the camera either. Which is sad, as camera modules are about $15 a piece.. likely OIS would be a few dollars more. So, in summary:
OnePlus 5T:
Pros:
- Everything about the phone, screen, performance, development community
Annoyances (not a deal breaker)
- Separate switch on the side of Do not Disturb, Silent, Loud mode. Why on earth this can't be done via volume keys (Mute -> Vibrate -> Loud) and perhaps few other modes?
- Fingerprint reader., especially in the middle of the screen. Mobile device makers are attempting to convince us that bio-metrics are safe, while even US government wasn't able to prevent breach of biometric data of its own employees..
- Mobile camera in the corner, not in the middle of the back panel - in place of a fingerprint. Sometimes camera is obstructed by fingers, perhaps it is just a matter of habit.
Deal breaker:
- Crappy camera with lack of optical image stabilization. No matter what software does via EIS - it is not the same
Outcome: OnePlus 5T returned.
Then - decided to get Pixel 2 XL, hoping that it would get better shots. What a disaster of a phone it is.. around 1,100 Canadian - that is on sale.
Pros:
- Perhaps camera, but in two days took some photos, they didn't look nice either
Deal breaker/disasters:
- Screen - non bright, cheap looking
- I also didn't like the curvy screen. No benefits, as the image is displayed on front of the screen, not on the curves. Only adds to ridiculous and unnecessary cost of the device.
- Screen edges - round. Maybe this is Google's "Style", but falls into a complete disaster category in my book. Even worse - initial version of the software had these roundish corners on top, and at the bottom had three white software keys on black background. Of course when the menu was on, lower corners were squared. When you look at combination of round above, and squared below - you feel like you are not seeing right, and time to visit a nuthouse.
- Even better - with the update to fix burn in issue - menu became lighter / grey color, with transparency - with white buttons. When you are hitting the soft buttons - your mind registers as if you are hitting background.
- Support.. Google won't admit that they include screen burn in issue as part of their warranty. But they do - it took > 10 minutes in chat with Google Support to squeeze out of them the simple confirmation that burn in is covered by the 2 year warranty. So if you are unfortunate to end up with Pixel XL 2 and can't squeeze the confirmation from Google - IM me, and I will gladly share the conversation transcript
- Even better.. when you tap on the phone while it is off (and on too) - it is making hollow sound in the middle, hollow surface is approximately 2./3 of the width of the phone (in the middle) and 3/4 of the phone vertically (in the middle). This gives a feeling of a very cheap and uneven device which doesn't feel solid.
Outcome: Pixel 2 XL returned..
But the phone is still needed.. I looked on Ebay - there are many brand new Nexus 5 and 5X for couple of hundred bucks.. Also, yesterdays hardware is dirt cheap brand new. E.g. Lg G4 is $120. Yes, G4s randomly die, not all of them can be rooted, but still.
Nexues run Camera NX.. Also, just realized, that before Pixels, Google used to publish their camera software without limitations to their own hardware. APK sites should have old versions of the software. When you are looking for older hardware, remember that Camera NX needs 64 bit CPU.
If you are still on the fence, good luck with the choice! And remember that if you do not need latest and greatest - you can get solid performers (models from a year or few ago) for 1/5th of their initial price.
You may consider the camera.
Went from Pixel 2xl to 5t.
I miss the dual front speakers
I miss the camera
5t charging speed is insane
5t battery is amazing
Do I regret it, hell no.
5t is the tits
martinez5241 said:
Went from Pixel 2xl to 5t.
I miss the dual front speakers
I miss the camera
5t charging speed is insane
5t battery is amazing
Do I regret it, hell no.
5t is the tits
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Can you elaborate a bit more ?
How's the feel in hands ?
Is the screen that much a difference ?
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Can you elaborate a bit more ?
How's the feel in hands ?
Is the screen that much a difference ?
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In hand the 5t feels slick and lighter than the 2xl. The 2xl I had it without a case and was able to grab the phone a lot better than I could with the 5t without a case. That being said yes both phone have fallen from my hands or from my lap when I get out of the car. The 5t is able to take a hit better than the 2xl. The 2xl casing cracked, the 5t casing only has scratches. Also, ive actually dropped the 5t in the bathtub of running water as I watched better call Saul while showering. I did Grab it quick but it was fully submerged. Phone still works. Sweet.
Didn't notice much screen size difference.
One other thing the lowest screen setting isn't low enough when laying in bed at night time, you'll need to download an app to make it lower. My wife has the pixelxl, her screen goes much lower than mine.
I grew up Google fan from original Nexus to Nexus 6p, pixel XL, pixel 2 xl. In an attempt to sell my slightly damaged p2xl someone offered me this new 5t in box with $300 cash in addition. I figured why not... I'm glad I did.
I stopped flashing ROMs due to always coming back to original stock with magisk.
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In hand the 5t feels slick and lighter than the 2xl. The 2xl I had it without a case and was able to grab the phone a lot better than I could with the 5t without a case. That being said yes both phone have fallen from my hands or from my lap when I get out of the car. The 5t is able to take a hit better than the 2xl. The 2xl casing cracked, the 5t casing only has scratches. Also, ive actually dropped the 5t in the bathtub of running water as I watched better call Saul while showering. I did Grab it quick but it was fully submerged. Phone still works. Sweet.
Didn't notice much screen size difference.
One other thing the lowest screen setting isn't low enough when laying in bed at night time, you'll need to download an app to make it lower. My wife has the pixelxl, her screen goes much lower than mine.
I grew up Google fan from original Nexus to Nexus 6p, pixel XL, pixel 2 xl. In an attempt to sell my slightly damaged p2xl someone offered me this new 5t in box with $300 cash in addition. I figured why not... I'm glad I did.
I stopped flashing ROMs due to always coming back to original stock with magisk.
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Great, and regarding the screen quality / colors / contrast & black crush ?
I went from 5T to first gen. Pixel XL. Simply put, 5T camera is crap. I got a feeling that the problems with the camera wont never be fixed properly. If good quality photos are needed, I cant recommend the 5T.
Otherwise 5T is a great device and I liked it.
I'm switching from the 5T to a Pixel 2 XL (ordered with a good deal) just for the pure Android/fast updates and better camera. 5T is an awesome device specially for money.
5T is amazing. The biggest and pretty much only downfall is the camera between this and pixel XL 2, and I personally am talking from coming from the original pixel XL, which camera was also better there. If you can get past the camera, 5T is the way to go.
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Also came from the 2 XL and I'm not one to try every flagship on the market before deciding which one to keep.
I had exchanged the 2 XL for defects twice. From touchscreen issues to dead pixel clusters. I eventually decided the display wasn't worth the price of the phone.
The blue shift is way over blown. Two of the devices I received had it and one didn't. It's not something that bugged me or noticed in daily use.
What did bug me was horrible brightness uniformity and graininess. And between receiving 3 different devices there were massive variations in display quality (color temperature, graininess, digitizer response). So it seems like buying one is like playing the lotto.
I miss the camera and the front facing speakers (no where near HTC m7,m8, m9 quality but better than the 5t).
It's a nice phone but it's not worth $1k.
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5T is amazing. The biggest and pretty much only downfall is the camera between this and pixel XL 2, and I personally am talking from coming from the original pixel XL, which camera was also better there. If you can get past the camera, 5T is the way to go.
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I came from an original pixel to the 5T, yes the pixel camera was better but imo some pictures look more natural looking with the 5T camera. I guess it's down to personal taste. Low light photos the 5T isn't as great as the pixel but it's still a good camera on the 5T.
I came from the 2nd gen Pixel and would not hesitate to recommend the 5t. The screen on the 5T has better color saturation and higher max brightness. Scrolling/smoothness isn't quite as good on the 5T, but it flies just as fast. Dash charge is insanely fast. The camera on the 5T can perform just as well as the Pixel under the right conditions but I wouldn't count on it for every point and shoot situation like you can with the Pixel. I snapped the attached pic a couple of week ago and thought it turned out great with absolutely no editing. The Google cases were cool, but the OnePlus Ebony wood bumper is the best I've had on a phone and now that there's a sandstone white variant, it looks just as good without a case. The biggest reason for me to switch to the 5T was the developer community. Since you're on XDA I would assume you're in to ROMs and customization which has already exploded for the 5T only a month or so in and for the Pixel is pretty well nonexistent. Phones are pretty much expensive toys for me and the Pixel was way more expensive, offered a great experience, but was ultimately way less fun.
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I came from the 2nd gen Pixel and would not hesitate to recommend the 5t. The screen on the 5T has better color saturation and higher max brightness. Scrolling/smoothness isn't quite as good on the 5T, but it flies just as fast. Dash charge is insanely fast. The camera on the 5T can perform just as well as the Pixel under the right conditions but I wouldn't count on it for every point and shoot situation like you can with the Pixel. I snapped the attached pic a couple of week ago and thought it turned out great with absolutely no editing. The Google cases were cool, but the OnePlus Ebony wood bumper is the best I've had on a phone and now that there's a sandstone white variant, it looks just as good without a case. The biggest reason for me to switch to the 5T was the developer community. Since you're on XDA I would assume you're in to ROMs and customization which has already exploded for the 5T only a month or so in and for the Pixel is pretty well nonexistent. Phones are pretty much expensive toys for me and the Pixel was way more expensive, offered a great experience, but was ultimately way less fun.
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That's an awesome shot indeed, and a lovely looking dog
I think I've got a pretty rough idea of what I want in a phone, and sadly as of now, there is no such thing.
I'll probably be taking a 5T and see how I like it. I know the camera isn't gonna to be as good, but I've seen like every YouTube videos that exists on the subject in the past few days and I think the only way I can decide is to try by myself.
I will keep this thread updated when I'll be receiving mine if I indeed do take one, so that the people that are in such situation, having a supposed superb flagship and that are disappointed can find a bit of information switching to a supposed "worse" phone.
I currently own a Oneplus 6 but have always loved the Pixel line up. This year i was wondering if anyone who owns both or has made the change from the Oneplus 6 to the pixel 3 xl see a difference. Is it worth it to upgrade or just wait to see what the Oneplus 6t brings. I love the stock feel from the pixel and although the oneplus has a similar stock feel i still prefer the look and feel of the pixel maybe because of the better screen not sure. Any comments or comparison i can be pointed to would be appreciated.
I had a one plus 5t, then Huawei p 20 pro and now 3xl. Your biggest upgrade will be the camera. No comparison between the Huawei or pixel camera to one plus, different league altigether. Oxygen Os is pretty clean and the One plus experience is very fast. You probably won't notice much of a speed increase. That said, Google integration is just cleaner with the pixel. I had few issues with one plus and p20 pro with Android auto and it just works with the pixel. Obviously you are doubling your investment so it depends how much your willing to spend. I got a good price for my p20 pro selling it on so got me well toward the price of the pixel.
Good luck deciding,
Mick
I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.
Yeah I want to wait off a bit for the announcement. The thing about the oneplus that it makes the phone slow down is that I prefer the stock pixel dialer and Google messaging so I have to use magisk to get the dialer and the messaging app. But for some reason the messaging app hands and crashes. Also the streen I wish they would finally go to a quad HD since they keep raising the price. And now with no headphone jack rumor I think I rather go back to pure android. [​QUOTE=sn0warmy;77941493]I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.[/QUOTE]
sn0warmy said:
I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.
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Nice review.
I lucked out with a late build of p2xl, so the display looked good with the saturated setting. Could you tell the resolution difference between the OP6 and the P2XL? P3XL?
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MArtyChubbs said:
Nice review.
I lucked out with a late build of p2xl, so the display looked good with the saturated setting. Could you tell the resolution difference between the OP6 and the P2XL? P3XL?
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I can't even compare the screens of the OP6 and 3 XL to my 2 XL, because the 2 XL's screen was just so terrible, in comparison. But comparing the OP6 and 3 XL, the resolution difference is sublte. It's there but subtle. Both look grea. You can just tell the Samsung screen on the 3 XL is just a tad more crisp/sharp.
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I can't even compare the screens of the OP6 and 3 XL to my 2 XL, because the 2 XL's screen was just so terrible, in comparison. But comparing the OP6 and 3 XL, the resolution difference is sublte. It's there but subtle. Both look grea. You can just tell the Samsung screen on the 3 XL is just a tad more crisp/sharp.
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Agree
I did
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I had a one plus 5t, then Huawei p 20 pro and now 3xl. Your biggest upgrade will be the camera. No comparison between the Huawei or pixel camera to one plus, different league altigether. Oxygen Os is pretty clean and the One plus experience is very fast. You probably won't notice much of a speed increase. That said, Google integration is just cleaner with the pixel. I had few issues with one plus and p20 pro with Android auto and it just works with the pixel. Obviously you are doubling your investment so it depends how much your willing to spend. I got a good price for my p20 pro selling it on so got me well toward the price of the pixel.
Good luck deciding,
Mick
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How do you find your P20 Pro compared to the other two? What issues did you face
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How do you find your P20 Pro compared to the other two? What issues did you face
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My main issues with the p20 pro was updates are a little slow, also android auto didn't work as well. I had issues with screen being drawn incorrectly on car headunit. Couple of niggles with software in general and Bluetooth 4 on the p20 I found my Sony headphones would loose connection in crowded places. Otherwise screen, form factor etc were good. The camera is probably more natural on the pixel but not much in it. It's a pity the pixel doesn't have advanced face unlock as the notch is surely big enough to accommodate it. So far prefer the pixel. Also knowing Google certify everything in the pixel is a little reassuring. Who knows really what Huawei are running in their phones.
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... Who knows really what Huawei are running in their phones.
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I am sure they have your file in Beijing...
@cherritaker I received my Pixel 3 XL on October 18th. I held onto my OP6 until I tested the Pixel. After a week of using the Pixel as my daily driver, I was very pleased with it. I have sold the OP6 now and am still very pleased with my Pixel 3 XL
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@cherritaker I received my Pixel 3 XL on October 18th. I held onto my OP6 until I tested the Pixel. After a week of using the Pixel as my daily driver, I was very pleased with it. I have sold the OP6 now and am still very pleased with my Pixel 3 XL
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how much did you sell it for, was thinking of keeping it as a backup phone but meh?
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My experiences are this
Oneplus is faster at charging
better at doze (idle drain was stupid ridiculously low vs pixel 3xl)
and for one reason or another i'm getting faster LTE speeds on the OP6 where I live (can't figure out why yet)
Everything else is better on pixel 3
masri1987 said:
how much did you sell it for, was thinking of keeping it as a backup phone but meh?
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My experiences are this
Oneplus is faster at charging
better at doze (idle drain was stupid ridiculously low vs pixel 3xl)
and for one reason or another i'm getting faster LTE speeds on the OP6 where I live (can't figure out why yet)
Everything else is better on pixel 3
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OP6 8/128 mirror black and sold for US$477
btw my P3XL standby battery use is 0.78%
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OP6 8/128 mirror black and sold for US$477
btw my P3XL standby battery use is 0.78%
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what overnight? .78% per hour? what are you using? betterbattery stats to calculate this?
I lost a whopping 12% last night and i had the same apps as i did on my OP6... was wondering maybe if aggressive doze wasn't on as itw as on my OP6.
Also, i will put mine up for sale then. it's 256 matte black .
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what overnight? .78% per hour? what are you using? betterbattery stats to calculate this?
I lost a whopping 12% last night and i had the same apps as i did on my OP6... was wondering maybe if aggressive doze wasn't on as itw as on my OP6.
Also, i will put mine up for sale then. it's 256 matte black .
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My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
I use EXKM battery monitor
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lollyjay said:
My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
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Still much better than 12% overnight...
Also where is the option to allow pin screen to auto detect the pin entry without pressing enter
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lollyjay said:
My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
I use EXKM battery monitor
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I unplugged my phone from 100% 5 min ago and it's already at 98% lol
Should I trip about these things or just let it be
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Still much better than 12% overnight...
Also where is the option to allow pin screen to auto detect the pin entry without pressing enter
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I unplugged my phone from 100% 5 min ago and it's already at 98% lol
Should I trip about these things or just let it be
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How long have you had your phone?
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lollyjay said:
How long have you had your phone?
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Since Wednesday
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Since Wednesday
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Probably will settle down after few more days
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