Hello everyone, I might came with a dumb question, but I'd like to know if there's any posibility to make Windows RT (8.0 or 8.1 Jailbroken) able to install 3rd party themes. If there's any way, then how? I've been searching everywhere and there wasn't anything for Windows RT or atleast a way without 3rd party software usage... But, if there's any posibility, it would be very nice..
It has been a while since waiting for answers and nobody had replied yet... Or just the silence might mean no..
r4d0n7 said:
It has been a while since waiting for answers and nobody had replied yet... Or just the silence might mean no..
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There is no way. Every theme requires an x86 exe file. RT only support ARM exe files
Qiangong2 said:
There is no way. Every theme requires an x86 exe file. RT only support ARM exe files
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But these .exe can be recompiled for arm
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-compile-and-port-win32-apps-for-windows-rt/
thandiBear said:
But these .exe can be recompiled for arm
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-compile-and-port-win32-apps-for-windows-rt/
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Yes, but the themes he was talking about are not available for ARM
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Yes, but the themes he was talking about are not available for ARM
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How about win86emu
thandiBear said:
How about win86emu
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That doesn't support low level calls that themes require. That's also the reason you cannot run a full version of microsoft office.
Qiangong2 said:
That doesn't support low level calls that themes require. That's also the reason you cannot run a full version of microsoft office.
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Hmm I see
But I'm still content with what I've got. Only earlier this week did I come to know that Windows RT could be jailbroken. Up until now I used my surface only as a power bank for my phone, or occasionally for editing a word document.
I had almost given up on it, but it's good to see an active XDA community even for such an old device.
thandiBear said:
Hmm I see
But I'm still content with what I've got. Only earlier this week did I come to know that Windows RT could be jailbroken. Up until now I used my surface only as a power bank for my phone, or occasionally for editing a word document.
I had almost given up on it, but it's good to see an active XDA community even for such an old device.
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My surface 2 has been my only laptop for the past 3 years and I haven't needed anything more. I have my linux desktop for dev purposes, but I mainly use my surface 2 for work.
Qiangong2 said:
My surface 2 has been my only laptop for the past 3 years and I haven't needed anything more. I have my linux desktop for dev purposes, but I mainly use my surface 2 for work.
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Yep. Surface RT has been my only windows device for the last 3.5 years as well. I got it as a gift. Initially I was skeptical about whether it would be of any use for me apart from light web browsing or documents editing and I was right for the most part.
But Android has come a long way and to be honest I haven't missed windows as much as I had thought I would. I'm not a developer, so having an Android phone as a daily driver is just enough for me.
However it's always better to use every device you own to it's full potential. A potential that windows RT could never achieve under Microsoft's money minded approach towards it
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Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian
Nope. Not possible.
Why would you expect your customers to hack their devices to install WM 6.5 just to run your company's software (which would kill their warranty for the device) even if it was possible?
Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.
People seem to think phones are like PCs... They aren't.
Downgrading is easy. Bring the WP7 devices back and get HD2s or Tilts/TouchPro's, etc. Samsung Jacks or Epix if you're into that formfactor.
I would never expect anyone to do this on my request
it was actulaly the client that asked me My only reply was that I would look into it
regards Christian Andersen
Its not possible but on the bright side, there will be a big update in Jan
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Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian
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why are you dropping support for 6.5? and why not make a wp7 port, from what I've heard, it's not that hard.
There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian
tboy2000 said:
Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
Martice said:
http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
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sorry but these were only rumoured and as you can already see, the htc trophy is now the HTC 7 Trophy...
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ
Fa310tx said:
I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ
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Touch control are koo but arent a good replacement for d-pads imo...mainly for games. Maybe one day some finds a way to have a slider cell that has dedicated game keys like a psp & physical kb like the tp2.
candersen said:
There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian
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I'm guessing you've done 0 development on WP7?
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Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
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HTC support said it would be possible.
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.
cbebop7 said:
then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.
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For me because it doenst have a keyboard..
nurps said:
For me because it doenst have a keyboard..
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then get a mytouch 4g....
Doesnt have a keyboard.
nurps said:
Doesnt have a keyboard.
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I meant the g2...
So anyone have any idea how one could try to run windows 8 rt on the Note 2? Kinda like they created an app for ubuntu to run within android, is it possible for windows 8 to do the same thing? just curious if anyone has any knowledge in this area. If you do please let me know, and I will get a copy of windows 8 rt for you to play around with!! Thanks XDA'ers...
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So anyone have any idea how one could try to run windows 8 rt on the Note 2? Kinda like they created an app for ubuntu to run within android, is it possible for windows 8 to do the same thing? just curious if anyone has any knowledge in this area. If you do please let me know, and I will get a copy of windows 8 rt for you to play around with!! Thanks XDA'ers...
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Please search before you post next time. This question is literally asked on every board for every new device. Theoretically Yes it is possible but reality is no dev would do it because they would get sued into oblivion by Microsoft. Windows is not open sourced like ubuntu or android. In order to port windows over legally they would have to get a license to port him and pay royalties to MS
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So anyone have any idea how one could try to run windows 8 rt on the Note 2? Kinda like they created an app for ubuntu to run within android, is it possible for windows 8 to do the same thing? just curious if anyone has any knowledge in this area. If you do please let me know, and I will get a copy of windows 8 rt for you to play around with!! Thanks XDA'ers...
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Not even possible. Windows RT has specific bootloader hardware requirements (I forget its name) add to that it is not open source so would need to be hacked together. You might be able to get windows phone to work but again, not open source so lawsuits would ensue.
On a side note why would you want windows rt on here? Windows RT is useless, cant run normal windows apps, and windows staore has less apps then android. Windows is going to release office for android next uear ( or so they claim) so not much need for windows RT on the Note 2.
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The only time i've ever heard about Microsofts latest OS's getting ported to a non approved device was the HD2, and as far as I'm aware nobody is getting sued over there. And the only reason the HD2 got WP7 was because it was used as a test device.. I haven't heard anything about it being ported to other devices that have a lot in common (EVO 4G, Nexus One, HTC Desire, etc)
If it could be ported to an android device it will probably be done. but it will need to run the exact same hardware. and even then i still doubt it will happen.
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And the only reason the HD2 got WP7 was because it was used as a test device.. I haven't heard anything about it being ported to other devices that have a lot in common (EVO 4G, Nexus One, HTC Desire, etc)
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The reason behind that is HD2 was a windows mobile device. It was based on winCE kernels and other devices were based on android Os which is based on Linux kernels.
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rajivshahi said:
The reason behind that is HD2 was a windows mobile device. It was based on winCE kernels and other devices were based on android Os which is based on Linux kernels.
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Indeed. Similar to this was the Toshiba TG01, which also runs WP7. It is a native WM6 device with a 1GHz CPU, 512MB ROM, and 256MB RAM.
Thanks for the replies guys. I appreciated the useful information. Oh, and I did do a search.. There was nothing in this forum in reference to W8 being put onto this device. Sorry if I offended.
Seems going directly to preview.windows.com doesn't work any more, as MS has pulled the file download from the site. For what purpose, I don't really know.
So I have been busy all summer and missed out on the RT 8.1 preview, which I finally decided to go for today. However, preview.windows.com simply states "Windows RT 8.1 Preview is not available", stating "the preview is no longer available."
I know it's only a month(ish) until full 8.1 comes out, but now i'm trying to figure out how to get 8.1 on it via other means. I know it's through the store - but it's triggered by a small file download. (an msu i think?)
Does anyone have a mirror of the .msu or has it locally? Or is there another way to try and force the preview to pull down? I thought maybe an 8.1 recovery file would work as well, but I haven't found any of those either. I'd really like to try to get my hands on this.
The preview has ended because 8.1 has been released to manufacturing.
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The preview has ended because 8.1 has been released to manufacturing.
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I understand that but it's a stupid reason, companies still need to test RT devices before October.
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I understand that but it's a stupid reason, companies still need to test RT devices before October.
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That is not the purpose of the preview builds.
The preview is intended for developers to ensure their software still works with 8.1. It also serves as public testing. It is not intended for consumers or businesses to go "hey whats 8.1 gonna be like", that is what the microsoft demonstration stands are for at various public events (of which I attended one yesterday).
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Seems going directly to preview.windows.com doesn't work any more, as MS has pulled the file download from the site. For what purpose, I don't really know.
So I have been busy all summer and missed out on the RT 8.1 preview, which I finally decided to go for today. However, preview.windows.com simply states "Windows RT 8.1 Preview is not available", stating "the preview is no longer available."
I know it's only a month(ish) until full 8.1 comes out, but now i'm trying to figure out how to get 8.1 on it via other means. I know it's through the store - but it's triggered by a small file download. (an msu i think?)
Does anyone have a mirror of the .msu or has it locally? Or is there another way to try and force the preview to pull down? I thought maybe an 8.1 recovery file would work as well, but I haven't found any of those either. I'd really like to try to get my hands on this.
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Yep, it's a MSU file and you can still get it here:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=302157 (x64)
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=302158 (x86)
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=302159 (ARM)
However, I just installed it on my SurfaceRT, rebooted and it's still not showing up in the store.
I'm pretty sure Microsoft pulled it from the Store.
ISO files still available from
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/preview-iso
I'm in the same boat. I just bought a Surface RT for my mom, only to discover that the 8.1 Preview is "not available" anymore. I was counting on it because my mom insists on having Outlook. Now, I have to either successfully convince her to use Windows Mail for two months or re-sell the device.
This is such a dumb decision by Microsoft. They're desperate to sell off their still-large inventory of 1st-gen Surface RTs (see the $150 price drop, as well as the $50 drop on the Touch Cover), and, yet, the devices are actually less attractive now than they were just a week ago. It wouldn't have hurt them any to continue offering the RT 8.1 Preview until mid-October, but pulling it now will hurt them a little. You really have to wonder what Microsoft is thinking.
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The preview has ended because 8.1 has been released to manufacturing.
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The preview is still available for x64 and x86 architectures and in over a dozen languages (see the link just above). It's only the RT 8.1 Preview that has been pulled. I can't think of any valid rationale for that. If it has something to do with the Surface RT 2 coming, it still doesn't make sense, since the 1st-gens have to be sold eventually (and they'll only get less profitable) and will be freely upgraded to 8.1, anyways.
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ISO files still available from
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/preview-iso
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ISOs are available for x64 and x86, not for ARM (RT). When you visit the page on RT, you get the "Windows RT 8.1 Preview is not available" message.
I am totally lost as to how this hurts microsoft?
THE PREVIEW IS NOT FOR CONSUMERS - IE YOU GUYS.
So they pull something not even intended for you guys to use it and you say this hurts microsoft? Hurts you perhaps but not microsoft. They have the real 8.1 in the pipe.
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I am totally lost as to how this hurts microsoft?
THE PREVIEW IS NOT FOR CONSUMERS - IE YOU GUYS.
So they pull something not even intended for you guys to use it and you say this hurts microsoft? Hurts you perhaps but not microsoft. They have the real 8.1 in the pipe.
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If you're just going to effectively shout at other users, I'm not going to bother to answer your questions or correct the multiple false assertions that you've made in this thread. I'm not even sure why you're here, since you're not helping with the problem any.
actually, I heard 8.1 doesn't work very well
but anyway, I am really looking forward to 8.1
You cannot update windows 8.1 preview to the 8.1 release version by the way.
Dude, seriously, calm down a bit.
1) The RT preview is supposed to be upgradable to RTM.
2) Pulling the RT preview so long before general availability is, in fact, stupid; how are third-party developers (like, you know, the target audience of this web forum) supposed to test their 8.1 apps unless they already upgraded?
3) While not intended for general usage and having multiple known issues, the 8.1 preview is certainly usable by the general public. It might not be the greatest idea, but still, it's better to have the option than to not have it. Removing that option removes a reason for people to buy RT right now.
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I understand that but it's a stupid reason, companies still need to test RT devices before October.
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SixSixSevenSeven said:
That is not the purpose of the preview builds.
The preview is intended for developers to ensure their software still works with 8.1. It also serves as public testing. It is not intended for consumers or businesses to go "hey whats 8.1 gonna be like", that is what the microsoft demonstration stands are for at various public events (of which I attended one yesterday).
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Chill out dude.
I am a professional developer, own a software company and happen to be a Microsoft Partner.
That's exactly why I need this, to test software.
For anyone else, it looks like the RT version just leaked online within the last 24hours.
All,
I'd like to give this an honest shot.
I've created an online petition to encourage/ask/beg Microsoft to provide a mechanism to allow developers and hobbyists to develop/port/use desktop software on Windows RT 8/8.1. The future of Windows RT is very uncertain right now and Microsoft would do well to open up the platform.
Once I get 500 (or more) signatures, I'll send this to contacts at Microsoft.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/windows-rt-desktop
Please help out. Share and tweet if you can.
Cheers,
bfostejr
Honest question here: Do you think a company as big and bull headed as MS would listen to something like this? I'm hoping that they do, of course, but most giants like them seem to make a big decision and stick with it. They would probably feel like they are just giving one of their products away to the world.
Well, It met its goal
te5ter said:
Well, It met its goal
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And the response from MS is the same.
jordanmills said:
And the response from MS is the same.
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What response? Or is that the point?
Does anyone know if the petition was sent to Microsoft yet?
domboy said:
What response? Or is that the point?
Does anyone know if the petition was sent to Microsoft yet?
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No response, that's what I mean.
Microsoft has released some things to the open source community, but I think RT is unlikely since it is still a supported OS. That said, supported doesn't mean fully embraced.
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Microsoft has released some things to the open source community, but I think RT is unlikely since it is still a supported OS. That said, supported doesn't mean fully embraced.
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There is 0% chance they will release the RT source, as it's the same source that Windows uses.
I have been trying to find out any definitive info on what I can and cant do with my surface. Im hoping that I can install something other than Wins 8 RT. It has not looked hopeful in the past, I was given the device as a promo training gift 3 years ago. Im tired of the neutered and damn near useless ness of this tablet. Im looking to install ubuntu or an android flavor of some sort.
As far as I know from scouring the web. Nothing as far as dual booting with an alternate OS is viable at this point. Everything has come to a halt. Surface and the RT OS is basically the Apple Powerbook of the x86 side of the world now.
In my opinion Windows RT 8.0 with the jailbreak is about as good as it's going to get (though there might finally be the possibility of an 8.1 jailbreak). I don't know if you've tried the jailbreak (not sure if you have an original Surface RT or the Surface 2) but for me it filled in most of what I was missing on RT, and has kept the device useful.
It is unfortunate that installing a non-Microsoft OS isn't possible.
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In my opinion Windows RT 8.0 with the jailbreak is about as good as it's going to get (though there might finally be the possibility of an 8.1 jailbreak). I don't know if you've tried the jailbreak (not sure if you have an original Surface RT or the Surface 2) but for me it filled in most of what I was missing on RT, and has kept the device useful.
It is unfortunate that installing a non-Microsoft OS isn't possible.
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Would be great to install linux in this tablet
I found a link with this method. Does anyone else know if this is actually doable or works? And could this apply to a windows RT tablet like the 2520?
makeuseof.com/tag/install-android-windows-8-tablet
There are times I would like to elements or apps from andoid on my windows tablet and am also looking for a dual boot solution.
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I found a link with this method. Does anyone else know if this is actually doable or works? And could this apply to a windows RT tablet like the 2520?
makeuseof.com/tag/install-android-windows-8-tablet
There are times I would like to elements or apps from andoid on my windows tablet and am also looking for a dual boot solution.
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Unfortuanately your answer is in the article you mentioned:
Although the process of installing Android on your Windows tablet – and by this I’m specifically referring to an Intel x86 device here rather than one equipped with an ARM processor (such as the Microsoft Surface RT) – will differ from device to device, the general approach is the same.
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It is talking about Windows 8 tablets, i.e. x86 devices. RT devices unfortunately have a locked bootloader, and so far no one has found a way around that, nor have OEMs released anything to unlock them, so RT devices are pretty much stuck. I hate the fact that Microsoft made that a requirement for RT devices.
I wasted my money on a Surface RT. If Microsoft had updated the platform to Windows 10 with universal apps they would have restored my faith in their hardware. Never again. Now for AMD to release a proper tablet SOC that I can actually play games on.
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