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Did a quick search on the the forum and didnt find anythign..
Is this going to eventualy be able to be ported for the tilt2?
I have to say i am pissed on what it is looking like so far, I really liked windows mobile because it was different and had multaple devices that you could choese but I would like to try it at least.
I know it may be too early but thought I would see if someone knew

Windows 7
From what I have heard, All current wm 6 phones will not be able to upgrade to wm7. I beleive they are upgrading all phones that will have wm7 system with better, faster processors and the current phones dont have them and ultimately wm7 won't work on them. Consequently wm7 wont be coming out until well into 2011.....atleast the 3rd quarter.....as rumors have it that is....hope that helped.

also it is rumored wm7 requires capacitive touch screens, we have resistive with the tp2.

There will be NO WM7 for the TP2 .. Really I dont want it.. you wont be able to get all the COOL apps we have or do all the things we do to hack out phone as easy! all APPS will need to come through the app store like the apple iphone..

dahauss said:
There will be NO WM7 for the TP2 .. Really I dont want it.. you wont be able to get all the COOL apps we have or do all the things we do to hack out phone as easy! all APPS will need to come through the app store like the apple iphone..
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yep, you also have to use internet explorer, bing search, bing maps, zune marketplace. you get no real customization or third party apps. its horrible. htc sense looks better tbh. what youre gonna want running on your phone in a year is android.

brianmay27 said:
Did a quick search on the the forum and didnt find anythign..
Is this going to eventualy be able to be ported for the tilt2?
I have to say i am pissed on what it is looking like so far, I really liked windows mobile because it was different and had multaple devices that you could choese but I would like to try it at least.
I know it may be too early but thought I would see if someone knew
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I´m sure a great Chef will manage to port it in some way
Have a read on WP7 section to follow all details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605

burtonsnow8 said:
also it is rumored wm7 requires capacitive touch screens, we have resistive with the tp2.
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Considering the HD2 has a capacitive screen and they were able to port that over to the touch pro 2 I'm sure it IS doable. They also had said they the Sense 2.5 interface would run to slow on our phones and now its blazing fast.
That said.... odd's are it'll get ported to the HD2 well before the touch pro 2.
I have no doubt that it'll get ported though, buy that time though I'd be ready to upgrade my phone anyway

It's extremely doubtful at best that this device will ever see Windows Mobile 7. One problem lies in with the hardware. Windows Mobile 7 will not be made or compiled for the MSM7xxx series of processor, only the newer, faster chipsets like the Tegra and Snapdragon. I don't see any way around that unless we can get the source and compile it ourselves. Next is the kernel. Windows Mobile is designed in such a way that the kernel must fully support the device's hardware. Windows Mobile isn't designed like Windows for PC, where you can simply put it on and it does all the driver work. We need full drivers to run Windows Mobile 7, drivers I might add do not and will never exist unless we write them.
In addition, what about the bootloader? The bootloader will very likley need to be updated so it will boot Windows Mobile 7, but how to go about doing that? Porting a new version of Windows Mobile is a hell of a lot harder than porting Sense 2.5 or any other software. It's also going to be completely different (and more difficult) than porting Windows Mobile 6.5 to Windows Mobile 5 or 6 devices, since the kernel is totally different.
I think that the only way this device will ever get Windows Mobile 7 is if someone has a Windows Mobile 7 Rhodium test ROM for internal use by Microsoft, and it gets leaked here. Otherwise, we're probably out of luck.
It's not that I don't want Windows Mobile 7 on the Rhodium, since I really do, I'm just thinking realistically.

Can it be upgraded to windows mobile??

CAN IT BE UPGRADED TO WINDOWS MOBILE??
does it support windows mobile to be installed on it??

Even if it's possible, I don't think "upgrading" is the correct term.

he might means wp7S

Why would you buy a brand new Android phone and even want to change the OS - astounded!!

I think he means "porting" to WM. I am also wondering if this would be possible to port to WM7S with this device, although, strict hardware chassis requirements would be required (Back, Start and Search button on all Windows Phone 7 Series devices).

I didnt think it was possible to run WM on an android phone, i always thought that android on WM was only possible

Currently, there is no way of installing Windows Mobile on any Android phone
But you can install Android on Windows Mobile on selected devices.

Porting WP7 to the desire would be a downgrade, not an upgrade. WP7 is going to be even more watered down than the iPhone OS, and a trident based web browser... no thanks

Oh dear, getting deja vu feelings here. Let's say it's a recurring topic when new Android devices come out And every time the replies are about the same lol

WP7 offers classic mode
If the news is true and not an April Fool's joke, WP7 will offer a classic mode download once it's launched and we will be able to run all wm6.5.3 programs on it, similar to WinXP mode on Win7. This will be a good reason to port over to WP7 right?
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Oh well, after doing just a bit more googling it appears to be just another joke.

crasher said:
If the news is true and not an April Fool's joke, WP7 will offer a classic mode download once it's launched and we will be able to run all wm6.5.3 programs on it, similar to WinXP mode on Win7. This will be a good reason to port over to WP7 right?
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Oh well, after doing just a bit more googling it appears to be just another joke.
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I actually believe it would be easier just to make kind of Windows Mobile emulator or virtualization, something like wine on linux to run wm classic software on android rather than porting to proprietary platform

patasenko said:
I actually believe it would be easier just to make kind of Windows Mobile emulator or virtualization, something like wine on linux to run wm classic software on android rather than porting to proprietary platform
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WINE exists for desktop linux but it's been developed on for years. I'm sure something is possible it's just a case of who would want to adopt and code such a product. And anyway, I think if something was attempted it would be to emulate iPhone apps on Android not WM apps.

I couldn't believe the title of this thread. WHY would anyone want to do this ?
Stick to Android. It will fair you well.

easy
Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.

Upgraded?!?
Windows Mobile is dead and Windows Phone 7 sucks balls, it's worse than iPhone OS.

Nice reactions to Windows Mobile!
I only had wm5 on an old mda compact ii, just got my desire with android and OMG, who would ever take android off their phone? !

profet said:
Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
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LMFAO!!
At least there wasn't any flaming of the OP this time....

Why would you want to port winmo-CRAP to an android phone like the HTC Desire ???????????????????/

While I'm not a fan of microsoft in general, I have a Topaz presently and I do like both the phone and the HTC Sense/TF3D interface. I also have a collection of apps that I've grown quite fond of, apps that AFAIK don't have any Android counterparts.
In fact, the only things I'd like to improve on the Topaz is a slightly larger screen and much faster CPU. If I could have the Desire with winmo 6.5 or 6.5.x this would fit the bill perfectly.
I know of the supposed HTC Obsession/Diamond 3, but it's supposed to run WP7 and with the kind of functionality sacrifices that means (copy/paste, multitasking, no 3rp party UIs/skins) I'm not tempted.
Each to their own, live and let live. Just because you don't understand why, doesn't make it wrong.

Why on earth would anyone want to install WM on the Desire??
I think its possible like some of the members said, using WINE or something, but i doubt that anyone would be interested (maybe just for experimental purposes)
profet said:
Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
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Made my day!

[Q] Is it posible to downgrade a windows phone 7 or android to windows mobile 6.5

Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian

Nope. Not possible.
Why would you expect your customers to hack their devices to install WM 6.5 just to run your company's software (which would kill their warranty for the device) even if it was possible?

Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.

People seem to think phones are like PCs... They aren't.
Downgrading is easy. Bring the WP7 devices back and get HD2s or Tilts/TouchPro's, etc. Samsung Jacks or Epix if you're into that formfactor.

I would never expect anyone to do this on my request
it was actulaly the client that asked me My only reply was that I would look into it
regards Christian Andersen

Its not possible but on the bright side, there will be a big update in Jan

candersen said:
Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian
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why are you dropping support for 6.5? and why not make a wp7 port, from what I've heard, it's not that hard.

There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian

tboy2000 said:
Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.

pimppoet said:
For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010

Martice said:
http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
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sorry but these were only rumoured and as you can already see, the htc trophy is now the HTC 7 Trophy...

pimppoet said:
For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ

Fa310tx said:
I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ
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Touch control are koo but arent a good replacement for d-pads imo...mainly for games. Maybe one day some finds a way to have a slider cell that has dedicated game keys like a psp & physical kb like the tp2.

candersen said:
There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian
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I'm guessing you've done 0 development on WP7?

candersen said:
Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
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HTC support said it would be possible.

pimppoet said:
For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.

cbebop7 said:
then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.
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For me because it doenst have a keyboard..

nurps said:
For me because it doenst have a keyboard..
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then get a mytouch 4g....

Doesnt have a keyboard.

nurps said:
Doesnt have a keyboard.
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I meant the g2...

Windows Mobile 7 ROM for Dinc??

I got to thinking and wondered if Windows Mobile 7 Verizon ROM has been ported to Dinc? Is like to check it out for connecting to all our MS bases crappy at the job! A search didn't return anything.
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I would think it'd be much quicker/easier to go out and buy a windows phone 7 phone... that's my $0.02. There's much better (more worthwhile) projects to be undertaken first.

There is a Home Launcher that does a good job emulating a Win 7 phone.. it's called Metro UI
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Yeah pretty sure WP7 can't be ported to our device or any android device for that matter. It would be cool, but I don't think it's possible

Windows = closed source. Android = open source.
You won't find any custom WP7 ROMs because the source code is not openly distributed.

Windows Phone 7 won't be on Android phones anytime soon, just like the other posters have said. I'll point you to two things:
1. Launcher 7 (https://market.android.com/details?id=info.tikusoft.launcher7&feature=search_result) is a very solid WP7 launcher that receives steady updates and is only improving. It's definitely worth checking out.
2. The WP7Android project (www.wp7android.com) is developing 9 WP7 applications for Android, and will supposedly develop WP7-like ROMs for popular devices.
However, I'd recommend you just buy a Windows Phone 7 device. The Mango release update coming in a few months is going to really make WP7 competitive, and there are many aspects that you simply won't be able to replicate with Android.

if you ever had a window's phone, you wouldn't be posting this..

What about the HD2 being able to run Android and Windows Phone7?

It's not a matter of possible, it's definitely possible.
It's a matter of whether someone smart enough to know how to reverse engineer and re-engineer ARM machine code wants to put in the effort to make it work. I don't think anyone with those capabilities has any desire to put the effort into getting WP7 on the DInc.

BLASPHEMY!!

Solar257 said:
What about the HD2 being able to run Android and Windows Phone7?
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Hd2 started as WINMO 6.5. Therefore it can run any windows or android, cause its starting from closed source.
I propose a toast to the 21st century.

Windows 8.1 on Nexus 7?

I know the title sounds far fetched but since Microsoft announced today that manufacturers can have Windows 8.1 on their tablets (9" or smaller) can install it without paying a licencing fees. Kinda like what Google does with Android.
You guys think its a possibility for Windows 8.1 OS to run on the Nexus 7 (2013)? I think it would be pretty cool to have an amazing Tablet like the Nexus 7 to have such a capability :victory:
What are you thoughts?

I was literaly going to post the same question. I hope someone can do this.:good:

Why would one want that?
Even the 10+ inch Microsoft powered tablets are hard to control as they are not so touch friendly.

Why?
Why would you go to a inferior OS?
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muldy said:
Why?
Why would you go to a inferior OS?
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I wouldn't say Windows is an inferior OS. It's just that a lot of my usage on a OS happens to be done on a PC. Android is still growing but I also like Windows in its own way. There are just something you NEED a PC/MAC for in order to do.
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I'm surprised no one has pointed this out yet. This is the Nexus 7 2012 forum and not the 2013 forum.
The question however is quite general so it's okay.
I read about a porting guide (to windows tablets). Don't think that'll work for Android tablets.

sgt. meow said:
I'm surprised no one has pointed this out yet. This is the Nexus 7 2012 forum and not the 2013 forum.
The question however is quite general so it's okay.
I read about a porting guide (to windows tablets). Don't think that'll work for Android tablets.
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oh snap! I thought this was the Nexus 7 2013 forum xD. Usually the website has the order from top devices but for some reason my order is messed up. I see some top devices and then random old ones then top ones again.

Android can be ported to devices because it is open-sourced. MS will never (at least not in the foreseeable future) release the source code of Windows for free. They only licence it (for free in this case) to manufacturers.

It isn't only the open-source issues we're talking about. You also need to consider the processor capabilities of the current Gen Nexus devices. They aren't Intel based. They're ARM based. That is why a normal Windows laptop makes such a mess of an Android installation. Same thing, vice-versa.
P.S. If a full fledged PC is what you wanted then why not root for Ubuntu? That's almost as full fledged as Windows though slightly lesser of user friendliness
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cwankhede said:
It isn't only the open-source issues we're talking about. You also need to consider the processor capabilities of the current Gen Nexus devices. They aren't Intel based. They're ARM based. That is why a normal Windows laptop makes such a mess of an Android installation. Same thing, vice-versa.
P.S. If a full fledged PC is what you wanted then why not root for Ubuntu? That's almost as full fledged as Windows though slightly lesser of user friendliness
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Yes, Windows was made for x86 and x64.

I don't think MS would be thrilled about that. I think they are making it free as an incentive to get OEMs to promote their platform. The OEMs aren't going to do that if they can't make money in the process, and OEMs don't make money unless they actually sell something. That said I don't think MS will allow you to do that, thus I'd wager that the price of free only applies to licensed partners.
As it is right now, you can't even buy RT as a standalone license like you can regular Windows, and I haven't seen them giving it away either (except as a repair tool for Surface RT owners.)

Netero Pito said:
Yes, Windows was made for x86 and x64.
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...... Very good. Now time to learn a new platform called ARM. Its not either.....
Sorry your answer or question..... Couldn't figure out wtf you were trying to say lol
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