I know the title sounds far fetched but since Microsoft announced today that manufacturers can have Windows 8.1 on their tablets (9" or smaller) can install it without paying a licencing fees. Kinda like what Google does with Android.
You guys think its a possibility for Windows 8.1 OS to run on the Nexus 7 (2013)? I think it would be pretty cool to have an amazing Tablet like the Nexus 7 to have such a capability :victory:
What are you thoughts?
I was literaly going to post the same question. I hope someone can do this.:good:
Why would one want that?
Even the 10+ inch Microsoft powered tablets are hard to control as they are not so touch friendly.
Why?
Why would you go to a inferior OS?
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Why?
Why would you go to a inferior OS?
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I wouldn't say Windows is an inferior OS. It's just that a lot of my usage on a OS happens to be done on a PC. Android is still growing but I also like Windows in its own way. There are just something you NEED a PC/MAC for in order to do.
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I'm surprised no one has pointed this out yet. This is the Nexus 7 2012 forum and not the 2013 forum.
The question however is quite general so it's okay.
I read about a porting guide (to windows tablets). Don't think that'll work for Android tablets.
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I'm surprised no one has pointed this out yet. This is the Nexus 7 2012 forum and not the 2013 forum.
The question however is quite general so it's okay.
I read about a porting guide (to windows tablets). Don't think that'll work for Android tablets.
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oh snap! I thought this was the Nexus 7 2013 forum xD. Usually the website has the order from top devices but for some reason my order is messed up. I see some top devices and then random old ones then top ones again.
Android can be ported to devices because it is open-sourced. MS will never (at least not in the foreseeable future) release the source code of Windows for free. They only licence it (for free in this case) to manufacturers.
It isn't only the open-source issues we're talking about. You also need to consider the processor capabilities of the current Gen Nexus devices. They aren't Intel based. They're ARM based. That is why a normal Windows laptop makes such a mess of an Android installation. Same thing, vice-versa.
P.S. If a full fledged PC is what you wanted then why not root for Ubuntu? That's almost as full fledged as Windows though slightly lesser of user friendliness
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It isn't only the open-source issues we're talking about. You also need to consider the processor capabilities of the current Gen Nexus devices. They aren't Intel based. They're ARM based. That is why a normal Windows laptop makes such a mess of an Android installation. Same thing, vice-versa.
P.S. If a full fledged PC is what you wanted then why not root for Ubuntu? That's almost as full fledged as Windows though slightly lesser of user friendliness
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Yes, Windows was made for x86 and x64.
I don't think MS would be thrilled about that. I think they are making it free as an incentive to get OEMs to promote their platform. The OEMs aren't going to do that if they can't make money in the process, and OEMs don't make money unless they actually sell something. That said I don't think MS will allow you to do that, thus I'd wager that the price of free only applies to licensed partners.
As it is right now, you can't even buy RT as a standalone license like you can regular Windows, and I haven't seen them giving it away either (except as a repair tool for Surface RT owners.)
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Yes, Windows was made for x86 and x64.
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...... Very good. Now time to learn a new platform called ARM. Its not either.....
Sorry your answer or question..... Couldn't figure out wtf you were trying to say lol
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Just Got My HTC Desire (UNLOCKED)
and BTW loving every bit of it
was wondering that if in the future it would be possible to run Windows Phone 7 on HTC Desire??
or
[Poll] Whether anyone is interested to run windows phone 7 on Desire?
P.S. Just Learnt someone is working a port of andoid on the iphone (not )
Lol! That will take some effort to make.
It will be really good though, just depends on what future android releases are like.
Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
I went with Desire cuz I didnt want to have a windows phone nor Symbian but had no money for an Iphone. lol. So thanks but no thanks.
lol the Desire is much better than the iPhone
You should be happy that you didn't have the money
That's like saying can iPhone OS be ported to the Desire.
Never gonna happen with a closed source OS.
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Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
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you're calling it crap when it's not even out yet? 0.o
It might not be as good as android, but im sure it's not 'crap'
It's just my opinion, but yes, I call it crap.
i agree
I agree I had a windows phone everything was so complicated... windows stick to home pcs
Dualboot IMO
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
If WP7 would ever be ported on Desire, I would probably just test it, to see what its all about. and then delete it...
It would be interesting to play with, but I doubt it would be possible
There's a project porting android to the iPhone, and it's proving very difficult even with Android being open source. So closed source, I don't think it would work..
Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
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If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
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i dont even think that would be possible, the sdk htc used to write the sensor and harware code isnt compatible with windows, on the other hand, android can be configured to run on hardware written to run on windows phone thats the problem lol
dexteral said:
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
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So umnmm.....did anyone actually READ the link?
Today's internet leak is brought to you by our friends at Adobe Photoshop and is apparently known as the HTC Mozart.
A leaked internal Telstra document is offering the first indication of when we might actually see a Windows Phone 7 device in stores and all but confirms that HTC will be one of the first manufacturers to launch a phone running Microsoft's overhauled OS.
We suggest you forget about the image, which is clearly just an HTC Desire with a WP7 home screen photoshopped onto the front of it. However, what is really interesting is the AU$49 per month price cap, Telstra's newest and lowest available Next G cap. Everyone who assumed that the first swell of WP7 phones would run at a premium cost (us included) were obviously mistaken.
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I would use it. The more I play with Windows Phone 7 the more I am sure it is going to be a serious player in the mobile world. I love the openess of Android, but I've been playing with several WP7 ui apps and I want more!
I would buy a WP7 phone as a secondary, but as of yet, I don't really like any of the hardware currently available with AT&T bands...
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WP7 has been ported to HTC HD2; maybe it was easier because WP7 is based on Windows CE 6, as winmo was.
I got to thinking and wondered if Windows Mobile 7 Verizon ROM has been ported to Dinc? Is like to check it out for connecting to all our MS bases crappy at the job! A search didn't return anything.
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I would think it'd be much quicker/easier to go out and buy a windows phone 7 phone... that's my $0.02. There's much better (more worthwhile) projects to be undertaken first.
There is a Home Launcher that does a good job emulating a Win 7 phone.. it's called Metro UI
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Yeah pretty sure WP7 can't be ported to our device or any android device for that matter. It would be cool, but I don't think it's possible
Windows = closed source. Android = open source.
You won't find any custom WP7 ROMs because the source code is not openly distributed.
Windows Phone 7 won't be on Android phones anytime soon, just like the other posters have said. I'll point you to two things:
1. Launcher 7 (https://market.android.com/details?id=info.tikusoft.launcher7&feature=search_result) is a very solid WP7 launcher that receives steady updates and is only improving. It's definitely worth checking out.
2. The WP7Android project (www.wp7android.com) is developing 9 WP7 applications for Android, and will supposedly develop WP7-like ROMs for popular devices.
However, I'd recommend you just buy a Windows Phone 7 device. The Mango release update coming in a few months is going to really make WP7 competitive, and there are many aspects that you simply won't be able to replicate with Android.
if you ever had a window's phone, you wouldn't be posting this..
What about the HD2 being able to run Android and Windows Phone7?
It's not a matter of possible, it's definitely possible.
It's a matter of whether someone smart enough to know how to reverse engineer and re-engineer ARM machine code wants to put in the effort to make it work. I don't think anyone with those capabilities has any desire to put the effort into getting WP7 on the DInc.
BLASPHEMY!!
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What about the HD2 being able to run Android and Windows Phone7?
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Hd2 started as WINMO 6.5. Therefore it can run any windows or android, cause its starting from closed source.
I propose a toast to the 21st century.
Who dares?
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.
Would be cool to dual boot like the HD2 days. But TBH Sui, we barely have any devs for anroid let alone start a whole new can of worms with WP7. Like the idea though.... +1
Wp7 doesn't support multiple cores.
$1 gets you a reply
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Wp7 doesn't support multiple cores.
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Except for, you know, the already released dual-core WP7 phones.
Good Point Kallkti, but soon it will. I was at a mircosoft event and we will see an update in a few months to support it. In theory couldnt we just use one core like ....idk the original froyo/GB code, and keep the second core sleeping. I never wrote kernel code im only asking
lol we dont even have a working CM7 or Miui...yet you want this?! i dont think it'll ever happen
GS2 doesn't meet hardware requirements for 6 hardware buttons and who knows what else, but seems to me if someone wants a WM7 phone, you get one.
Another thought - get an HTC HD2 - ROMs available for WM 6.5, 7 and just about every flavor of android available. A little slow (1 GHz) but satisfies all other requests.
I think it'd be awesome, been thinking about this myself. Probably damn difficult if not impossible to do at this point.
My girlfriend has a Samsung focus and it's pretty sweet. I find myself getting jealous over her phone at times especially with the zune pass lol.
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Sui Generis said:
Who dares?
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.
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Why would you ruin a perfectly good phone and turn it into an unstable brick?
The question is not who dares. But why? Lol
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They have not released any dual core wp7 phones.
Windows Phone 7 will never work unless Microsoft makes it open source. The Hd2 was lucky only because the Hd7 has the same exact internals and even that phone doesn't run Windows flawlessly.
Its like trying to put iOS or RIM's software on the GSII. It will never work and if you are lucky to get it to boot it will be extremely buggy!!!!
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I just don't understand why you would want that OS on such an amazing piece of hardware. WM7 in my opinion is just too limited in the things you can do, hence the reason why people including myself rid of 6.5 from their HD2's.
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Except for, you know, the already released dual-core WP7 phones.
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What windowsphone7 phones have you seen with dual cores? Even the top of the line phones are single core be ause the OS doesn't support it yet.
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wp7 runs extremely smooth and looks very nice. i don't know why this phone has no cool stuff, we have a bunch of competent developers, even cyanogen is working on this phone. i'm hoping that in the next 3 months development will explode for this phone.
like stated before if we can't even get a stable version of cm7 or miui we are deff not getting this here....... lol
If it's looks you want there might be a launcher theme out there you could try
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Who dares?
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.
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i still have my hd2. its cool as hell but i never used wm6-7. why because it sucks-hard. why would you want that? Oh if you like wm and like your phone, download a wm7 launcher. i think thats going to be the most development youll see.
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The question is not who dares. But why? Lol
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Windows Phone 7.5 is a better OS than Android. Does it have as much developer support? No. But speaking strictly of the OS itself, it's much more efficient, handles battery life much better, is smoother out of the box. It just needs more love from software developers.
That said, what the OP is suggesting is never going to happen. Least of all on the Hercules/T989
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Windows Phone 7.5 is a better OS than Android. Does it have as much developer support? No. But speaking strictly of the OS itself, it's much more efficient, handles battery life much better, is smoother out of the box. It just needs more love from software developers.
That said, what the OP is suggesting is never going to happen. Least of all on the Hercules/T989
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Ya saying Windows phone anything is better than android is just straight up garbage sorry. If that was the case it wouldn't have 1% marketshare while the richest company in the world is marketing and pushing it.
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So anyone have any idea how one could try to run windows 8 rt on the Note 2? Kinda like they created an app for ubuntu to run within android, is it possible for windows 8 to do the same thing? just curious if anyone has any knowledge in this area. If you do please let me know, and I will get a copy of windows 8 rt for you to play around with!! Thanks XDA'ers...
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So anyone have any idea how one could try to run windows 8 rt on the Note 2? Kinda like they created an app for ubuntu to run within android, is it possible for windows 8 to do the same thing? just curious if anyone has any knowledge in this area. If you do please let me know, and I will get a copy of windows 8 rt for you to play around with!! Thanks XDA'ers...
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Please search before you post next time. This question is literally asked on every board for every new device. Theoretically Yes it is possible but reality is no dev would do it because they would get sued into oblivion by Microsoft. Windows is not open sourced like ubuntu or android. In order to port windows over legally they would have to get a license to port him and pay royalties to MS
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So anyone have any idea how one could try to run windows 8 rt on the Note 2? Kinda like they created an app for ubuntu to run within android, is it possible for windows 8 to do the same thing? just curious if anyone has any knowledge in this area. If you do please let me know, and I will get a copy of windows 8 rt for you to play around with!! Thanks XDA'ers...
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Not even possible. Windows RT has specific bootloader hardware requirements (I forget its name) add to that it is not open source so would need to be hacked together. You might be able to get windows phone to work but again, not open source so lawsuits would ensue.
On a side note why would you want windows rt on here? Windows RT is useless, cant run normal windows apps, and windows staore has less apps then android. Windows is going to release office for android next uear ( or so they claim) so not much need for windows RT on the Note 2.
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The only time i've ever heard about Microsofts latest OS's getting ported to a non approved device was the HD2, and as far as I'm aware nobody is getting sued over there. And the only reason the HD2 got WP7 was because it was used as a test device.. I haven't heard anything about it being ported to other devices that have a lot in common (EVO 4G, Nexus One, HTC Desire, etc)
If it could be ported to an android device it will probably be done. but it will need to run the exact same hardware. and even then i still doubt it will happen.
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And the only reason the HD2 got WP7 was because it was used as a test device.. I haven't heard anything about it being ported to other devices that have a lot in common (EVO 4G, Nexus One, HTC Desire, etc)
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The reason behind that is HD2 was a windows mobile device. It was based on winCE kernels and other devices were based on android Os which is based on Linux kernels.
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The reason behind that is HD2 was a windows mobile device. It was based on winCE kernels and other devices were based on android Os which is based on Linux kernels.
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Indeed. Similar to this was the Toshiba TG01, which also runs WP7. It is a native WM6 device with a 1GHz CPU, 512MB ROM, and 256MB RAM.
Thanks for the replies guys. I appreciated the useful information. Oh, and I did do a search.. There was nothing in this forum in reference to W8 being put onto this device. Sorry if I offended.
Hey guys! I was reading an article that shows a M8 running windows mobile 8. I saw it pop up on multiple sites so it must be really comming. I was just wondering what if the device had the same specs as ours. Doesn't that nean that in the future we may be able to run it on ours. Not that I would ditch android but just the thought of having the best of both worlds gets me excited. How about you? Any thoughts?
Windows phone 8.1 not mobile
I'm not interested in using Windows phone as my daily driver but would be cool if we can dual boot wp and android.
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Windows phone 8.1 not mobile
I'm not interested in using Windows phone as my daily driver but would be cool if we can dual boot wp and android.
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Sorry lol I don't keep up that much with windows but hey it would be cool to dual boot just because why not. Using another os without having to commit to it sounds great.
I'd love a dual boot, but if I recall it's sort of a legal grey area. Windows phone isn't free like android, so it's possible that the m8's that ship with windows phone will get unofficial android support, those of us that have them that shipped with android haven't "paid" for a windows license for the phones, so we may not get unofficial WP support.
It's going to be a re-release of the m8 as the w8 running wp8.1. It's not a dual boot phone just a "new" device apparently.
But if there were certain developers that got curious and dedicated to porting wp to the Android m8 it would just be a matter time. Identical hardware only rebranded as a Windows phone with working drivers. Techically a working hboot/boot loader similar to magldr for HD2 would do it.
But that's all what ifs on a device that's not the m8.
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It's going to be a re-release of the m8 as the w8 running wp8.1. It's not a dual boot phone just a "new" device apparently.
But if there were certain developers that got curious and dedicated to porting wp to the Android m8 it would just be a matter time. Identical hardware only rebranded as a Windows phone with working drivers. Techically a working hboot/boot loader similar to magldr for HD2 would do it.
But that's all what ifs on a device that's not the m8.
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But see, the HD2 came with windows phone first, so it technically had the license for it. The M8 android edition doesn't have the windows licensing so I'm not sure if a developer would want to undertake that task and risk the wrath of microsoft.
I think if this wp8 phone had identical hardware and a stock RUU were to appear one could flash this ROM with S-OFF.
Technically speaking sense is not open source and that doesn't stop people from attempting to port it other devices. Almost always OEM ports are proof of concept.
Unless Windows/HTC were to issue a cease and desist letter to the dev community (which I don't see happening considering at this point they would be thrilled people would have an interest period) I don't see this being an issue if hardware specifications are the same or equal enough
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I think if this wp8 phone had identical hardware and a stock RUU were to appear one could flash this ROM with S-OFF.
Technically speaking sense is not open source and that doesn't stop people from attempting to port it other devices. Almost always OEM ports are proof of concept.
Unless Windows/HTC were to issue a cease and desist letter to the dev community (which I don't see happening considering at this point they would be thrilled people would have an interest period) I don't see this being an issue if hardware specifications are the same or equal enough
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Partition layout are different between the two different OS. An RUU would not flash and if it did you would screw up your phone emmc so brick.
I am by no means an expert but I know the partition are different from GPE and Sense and with soff you can still flash. In theory wouldn't that be the same? I maybe way off.
If this had the support of Nexus community I bet you a working wp8 could work. For instance if their was a nexus 5 that happened to run WP8.
In any case I would love to at least try a try WP8. I am sure I will be running back to android a weeks tops though
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I'd love a dual boot, but if I recall it's sort of a legal grey area. Windows phone isn't free like android, so it's possible that the m8's that ship with windows phone will get unofficial android support, those of us that have them that shipped with android haven't "paid" for a windows license for the phones, so we may not get unofficial WP support.
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Windows announced a couple months back that all devices under 8 or 9 inches are free now. No need to pay for a license. I'll have to look up the article I read, but I'm sure a quick Google search would yield done results.
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Windows announced a couple months back that all devices under 8 or 9 inches are free now. No need to pay for a license. I'll have to look up the article I read, but I'm sure a quick Google search would yield done results.
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Looks like you are spot on! Which answers the question and makes it more plausible.
Free Windows phone for devices < 9" Save your jokes!
This almost makes me feel like Microsoft should make it easier to convert an Android version for people that are curious to use their OS. Furthermore, it would be brilliant to help adoption rate if they give free licenses and encourage existing devices to convert to Windows in a simple easy way. Starting to see some light here.
A ROM like the gpe one coming? But w8
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I think if this wp8 phone had identical hardware and a stock RUU were to appear one could flash this ROM with S-OFF.
Technically speaking sense is not open source and that doesn't stop people from attempting to port it other devices. Almost always OEM ports are proof of concept.
Unless Windows/HTC were to issue a cease and desist letter to the dev community (which I don't see happening considering at this point they would be thrilled people would have an interest period) I don't see this being an issue if hardware specifications are the same or equal enough
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MS already went after XDA, hence all the windows phone software on the site was removed.
Is this true?
Oops posted in wrong forum...
I would love the idea of dual boot, but honestly I would do Android/UbuntuPhone