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I've been reading in different pundits that Sony is going to take over Ericsson's part in SE. The idea is pretty much defined in that Sony wants to have a tighter integration between its media production and consumption systems.
Do you see this as a positive movement? On the one hand, it'd be great to have more functions by having our Play and other future devices connect with Sony products. On the other hand, Sony hasn't shown much love for the hacking and modding community...
I've been reading this all day and waiting for updates.
Well, I do believe Sony provides much more support and stuff for it's devices, that's be a plus. It seems a good news overall.
Sony doesn't like much hacking in their other devices like PS3 etc, that just makes their devices open to piracy.
But in case of mobile phones running Android, i do believe they won't be foolish enough to attempt to stop hacking.
If they do, I hope they don't treat the developers/community like they do in PS3
All I want is tight integration with my PSN account, and to be able to play the dozens of PS1 games I have already paid for.
If this does happen I doubt their policies will change on the mobile side. They did just hand out 20 devices to grassroots devs. I'm sure that wasn't just the Ericsson side doing whatever they want, but both being ok with it. Especially because a couple of the devices have the Playstation logo on them.
Means **** tbh
I LOVE ps3,and i hate the hackers who JB it!
I LOVE hackin and development for SErricson phones,its amasing
Sony and SErricson might have a bit of a conflict...
This rumour has popped up almost every year since 2008.
I hope it doesn't happen especially now that Sony Ericsson has worked its ass off to get itself out of a ditch.
Sony would probably release phones with nicer materials and their flagship would be a lot more powerful than anything SE would release, but their prices would probably be 2X that of current SE prices.
Sony is no longer the company that charges a lot more then it's competition. Their quality is still up there but their prices had dropped drastically over the years. I'm sure when they do take over, they will keep the existing ceo.
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wait doesnt sony already OWN it?
i Mean it is the SONY ericsson
Bad idea
The latest software update for Sony's PS3 license and agreement terms states that consumers will give up their right to be able to sue Sony for any faults in their system. That means if your personal details or account information gets stolen you'll be the one that loses everything.
Imagine having this on your SE device if their official software update bricked your nonvodied phone you'd have to pay for everything! SE better hold its ground cause Sony is only for the business not for the people
This could be really good news for Xperia PLAY's dev support.
...but absolutely disastrous news for the marketing decisions made for it.
are there any sites that compare phones beyond just hardware? something that gets updated but shows software problems with different phones?
It's really hard to find something like this, problem is most of them have the following system of reviewing:
1- Get an equivalent Apple product.
2- Find features on the Apple product that do not exist on the actual reviewed product.
3- IF there are features on the other product that you can't turn a blind eye to talk it down.
Then mark it accordingly...
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I would recommend The verge review though, Josh knows what he is talking about.
The issue is it is a huge undertaking to keep all of these reviews on a site up to date. They publish 100's of device reviews and it would be pretty impossible to keep them up to date.
Even if they wanted to keep them up to date, 99% of the time the devices are review units that are returned a week later and there is no long-term evaluation of it.
You kinda gotta trust new news stories will come out if something serious effects the device.
What you can do is read lots of reviews and make a list of the good and bad things, then you'll a pretty accurate opinion of the phone.
At least for me works fine this method
By JARED NEWMAN | February 22, 2012
Android-powered Google glasses may seem like fantasy, but according to the New York Times, they’re real, and on track for a 2012 launch.
Citing “several Google employees familiar with the project,” Nick Bilton reports that the heads-up display will go on sale by the end of the year. It’ll have a 3G or 4G data connection built-in, and will cost somewhere between $250 and $600.
Between Bilton’s report and earlier rumors from 9to5Mac’s Seth Weintraub, we’re starting to get a clearer picture of what these glasses will look like. Weintraub reported that the actual heads-up display is “only for one eye and on the side.” That pretty much lines up with Bilton’s account that the glasses will include “a small screen that will sit a few inches from someone’s eye.” In other words, these aren’t the kind of glasses where the lens is the actual display.
A low-resolution camera will be able to provide real time information about a user’s surroundings. The glasses will reportedly resemble Oakley Thumps, pictured here.
As for software, Weintraub wrote that users will navigate the HUD with a system of head tilting. Although the information will be based on existing Google services, such as Google Latitude and Google Goggles, it’ll be presented as augmented reality, on top of whatever’s happening in the real world, according to Bilton.
Still unclear, of course, is whether anyone would actually wear these things in public. Would I love to have a HUD to remind me about the names of people I’ve met, or to give me directions in the car without having to glance down at my phone? Absolutely. But as my editor Doug Aamoth pointed out, waiting for the contact lens version may be more socially acceptable.
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This seems like an awesome idea but I can't help to think at the sony 3D glasses that a) dont fit your head and b)cause headache. I hope if googles release these glases that they fix these issues
If they put sell this tech to glasses makers, make possible to use the whole lens, turn it off and have about 2 Gb for data (useful things), I would buy it.
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Finally a potentially more effective way of developing brain tumors.
Although, this is just speculation
That would be nice, I'd totally ditch my contacts (they're a pain anyways) for tech glasses, that is if they can give me a nice frame to go with it.
well i had also read this news ago but i was not assure that time but thanks you share it again with us so now i am agree with the news
maybe they can also warn you not to run against signs on the street, like some people do while texting I think this would also reduce the number of brain-tumors D
I need this glasses, then I can surf while I sitting in lessons
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Great comment. I wonder about this too.
uselessmass said:
Finally a potentially more effective way of developing brain tumors.
Although, this is just speculation
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Felimenta97 said:
If they put sell this tech to glasses makers, make possible to use the whole lens, turn it off and have about 2 Gb for data (useful things), I would buy it.
Xperia X10 Mini Pro with CM9 by paul-xxx
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Agreed!
But I think that it can have a little more than 2gb!
It would be great...
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Agreed!
But I think that it can have a little more than 2gb!
It would be great...
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I mean for contacts, people and such. I don't think 8 Gb is needed. Maybe 4 Gb it's OK. And a little bit more for the OS.
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Ahem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmSsQ7m3GVA
These documents contain additional technical details, and internal photos of the device.
Confirmed WiFi, and full NFC communication.
Some of the images are clearly early prototypes, but this is the final report regarding it's hardware specs.
Enjoy
That would be great, but if these was made with prototypes we still can't be sure if final version has it or not.
This is so ridiculous. Come on Sony, why no one there cares talking about your own device?
They could lead the new generation of Smart watches but their silence means they probably don't care...
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That would be great, but if these was made with prototypes we still can't be sure if final version has it or not.
This is so ridiculous. Come on Sony, why no one there cares talking about your own device?
They could lead the new generation of Smart watches but their silence means they probably don't care...
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I agree 100%. This is the first watch that combines that whole fitness aspect with android wear. They should be getting this watch out there in the media as much as possible.
I think they must be working thru some of the new parts of the android wear update.
Isn't the SW3 wifi compatible ? I checked the white paper and I cannot see anything... :crying:
I found the answer myself ^^ document 2407959 white paper page 3
First time I'm leading such a thing so mods, if there's a better way to lead people to the right thread, please let me know!
I've started a XZ1 & XZ1 Compact bounty thread for getting a reward pool up for anyone who can find a locked bootloader root method, TA backup & restore method or any other way to root and retain DRM features. Thought it would be great to have the bounty in a single thread for both the normal size XZ1 and XZ1 Compact since both models are very similar and obtaining root usually comes in pairs anyway since the Z1 and Z3 days.
Aside from the XZ1 and XZ1 Compact having great on-paper specs and being very appealing, I'm also fed up that the latest Xperia model where root and retain DRM is possible is the 1 year old XZ!! I'm sure some of you share the same feelings too!
When i get mine i am up for testing.
XZ1Compact is a junk i returned it sorry.
Ok, so.. this is my first time being interested in a Sony device. Long time LG user here, and I'd be all over the V30 if T-Mobile didn't lock the bootloader down. Is the purpose for this bounty solely to retain DRM keys after the bootloader unlock? I see the XZ1 is part of the Sony Open source project where they let you unlock the bootloader. I only want to root this phone for v4a and adaway.
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Is the purpose for this bounty solely to retain DRM keys after the bootloader unlock?
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Your question is answered in the thread the OP linked to, aka the bounty thread.
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Your question is answered in the thread the OP linked to, aka the bounty thread.
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My apologies. I was too vague in my original question. I was hoping for specifics pertaining to this model, the XZ1 Compact. I'm well aware of the proprietary Sony software lost by removing DRM keys. I know after several reviews I've read that the XZ1 does lack a couple of features that it's bigger brother.
Another question. If Sony has this open source platform set up specifically for developers to create ROM's based on this XZ1 Compact, why would Sony hinder the performance and features by not allowing you to keep the DRM keys when unlocking the bootloader in a simple fashion?
Please don't respond if my questions upset you. I've read the posts and I'm posting questions here because I'm genuinely interested in this.
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My apologies. I was too vague in my original question. I was hoping for specifics pertaining to this model, the XZ1 Compact. I'm well aware of the proprietary Sony software lost by removing DRM keys. I know after several reviews I've read that the XZ1 does lack a couple of features that it's bigger brother.
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Can you elaborate on what you want to know? You said you are already aware of feature loss, so what sort of specifics are you talking about?
As you said, the XZ1 Compact does not have any additional features that the bigger brother XZ1 doesn't, hence whatever DRM-reliant features are lost in the absence of DRM keys on the XZ1, the same goes for the XZ1 Compact.
Sony has never really published a list of features that will be broken, they're somewhat (purposefully) vague on this part.
The bounty thread mentions some of the most prominent features that are impacted, I urge you to take a look. As I had mentioned in my previous reply, it also answers your original question regarding the scope and goal of the bounty.
Another question. If Sony has this open source platform set up specifically for developers to create ROM's based on this XZ1 Compact, why would Sony hinder the performance and features by not allowing you to keep the DRM keys when unlocking the bootloader in a simple fashion?
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That is a question only Sony knows the answer to.
However, from a purely speculative viewpoint, it seems they think that binding some of their proprietary features to DRM keys is a way of protecting their IP.
Your phone won't actually be rendered useless after losing your DRM keys per se, you just lose the ability to utilize some of their more "advanced" toys like low light noise reduction algorithms and X-Reality, which are definitely nice to have but not "essential" features.
For AOSP ROMs, for example, Sony still provides bare bone driver support for the display and camera - perfectly functional, just not exceptional.
They opened up their phones to developers in the name of mutual benefit, but of course we know that it's more for their own sake than ours.
As for the lack of DRM-bound features in an unlocked open world, I suppose it's just their way of saying those assets are off limits, and to discourage average consumers from messing with their phones and driving up the cost and complexity of support.
Then again, just think for a minute. This is Sony we're talking about. Sony history is practically made up of anti-consumer-friendly practices with locked down, proprietary everything.
Just be grateful they're even doing this open devices thing, citizen scum dear users, and pray they don't hinder it any further.
Then again, just think for a minute. This is Sony we're talking about. Sony history is practically made up of anti-consumer-friendly practices with locked down, proprietary everything.
Just be grateful they're even doing this open devices thing, citizen scum dear users, and pray they don't hinder it any further.
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Yeah, I completely agree. I only blame Apple for this. They've always been supreme dictator over iOS and I think larger companies like Samsung with their locked bootloaders on carrier phones and Verizon - which has no reason to lock theirs down are following suit because they can.
Ahh well, I appreciate your response. I just read an article the other day - the top three phones that are Dev friendly are the OnePlus 5T, Google Pixel and Huawei Mate 9. I'd go that route, but they are all larger phones. Guess I'm just hoping for something that doesn't exist (still!)
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Yeah, I completely agree. I only blame Apple for this. They've always been supreme dictator over iOS and I think larger companies like Samsung with their locked bootloaders on carrier phones and Verizon - which has no reason to lock theirs down are following suit because they can.
Ahh well, I appreciate your response. I just read an article the other day - the top three phones that are Dev friendly are the OnePlus 5T, Google Pixel and Huawei Mate 9. I'd go that route, but they are all larger phones. Guess I'm just hoping for something that doesn't exist (still!)
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I had exactly your doubts but...well its not KitKat time anymore, Android Oreo is pretty much a complete OS to me...and yeah not having adblock sucks but at least I can still use AdGuard...I'm not a teenager anymore and so I wouldn't have time to mess with my phone anyway, at least not like with my previous Nexus 5...I bought xz1 Compact and have no regrets, seriously....at this point, if not for adblock, I don't have any other reason to want to root my phone...I guess I'm getting old lol
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I had exactly your doubts but...well its not KitKat time anymore, Android Oreo is pretty much a complete OS to me...and yeah not having adblock sucks but at least I can still use AdGuard...I'm not a teenager anymore and so I wouldn't have time to mess with my phone anyway, at least not like with my previous Nexus 5...I bought xz1 Compact and have no regrets, seriously....at this point, if not for adblock, I don't have any other reason to want to root my phone...I guess I'm getting old lol
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So.. I just turned 40 this year. I've been playing around with Android phones now since the HTC Eris back in 2009 (yikes!!). I travel a lot for work and carry two pair of headphones with me. One pair of IEM's and one pair of large wireless cans. The IEM's are mostly used out of convenience and sound quality.. cans when I don't want something stuck in my ear. Anyway, the point to my rambling, is back in the Samsung days, I was introduced to something called "Voodoo Sound". It was created by a dev on XDA to manipulate the hardware settings (particularly the hardware gain) for users audio. It was amazing. The point of it was to boost the volume so you could CUT frequencies on an EQ and still keep the NORMAL volume of the phone. I see so many people on here complaining to other users about why they want to boost the volume, when that's not what they are doing at all. I fell in love and held on to old phones to keep from giving that feature up. Then, it slowly vanished and Viper4Android was released by a bunch of Chinese devs. I eventually switched over. I can't live without v4a. It makes up for the shortcomings in my IEM's.
So the problem is, with all these locked bootloader phones, I can't put v4a on the phone. I usually just keep using the older phone anyway until I can't stand the sluggish performance anymore and then start hunting for a new phone. The monkey wrench this go around is that work makes me carry an iphone as well as my personal.. so I'm trying to find an all around good phone that's compact. I got real excited about this XZ1 Compact until I saw some users complaining about battery life. I am extremely hard phone a phone battery. The 3300mah battery in the ginormous V20 I have now will last me about 6 hours while traveling on the plane, through airports, etc.
My dream phone would be a utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put v4a (and prob adaway). It's crazy to me how Sony is the only manufacturer that dabbles with small phones now. Sammy tried it with the S5 mini, etc years ago, not nothing since.
Having since reading this thread is just another roadblock keeping me from going out to my local Best Buy today and just buying this phone and being done with it. I'd be worried about losing these DRM keys that effect camera performance. I love taking photos while traveling of the things I see and sharing them with family.
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Having since reading this thread is just another roadblock keeping me from going out to my local Best Buy today and just buying this phone and being done with it. I'd be worried about losing these DRM keys that effect camera performance. I love taking photos while traveling of the things I see and sharing them with family.
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It really is a douche move by Sony to render the camera completely useless after unlocking the bootloader.
Before the X-series line, at least with my own experience with the Z-series, UB affects the camera by disabling low-light noise reduction, but doesn't cause it to only take green pictures, it was still functional.
Well, the potentially good news is that a dev on XDA has created a DRM patch for the XZ Premium, which has similar platform configurations to the XZ1 and XZ1 Compact, and the dev mentioned in the bounty thread that he's working on bringing compatibility to the XZ1 family.
If you'd like, you can support him and make a donation pledge to incentivize him and/or other devs to find a solution.
Alternatively, the very same dev who created a DRM patch for the XZP also found some third party camera apps that works, presumably before he developed the fix.
See here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/tip-camera-fix-unlocked-rooted-sony-t3647333
Or, you can just flash a AOSP build.
Or, as you are contemplating, just skip Xperias altogether. It's a world of compromises, unfortunately.
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My dream phone would be a utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put v4a (and prob adaway). It's crazy to me how Sony is the only manufacturer that dabbles with small phones now. Sammy tried it with the S5 mini, etc years ago, not nothing since.
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Nobody gets that!!!! I wanted the Z2 3 years ago but it went extinct before i bought it and now i finally bought xz1 for the same reason!! utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put some other stuff. Only Sony is doing that and i get so many looks for my new phone -
Sony?? why?? wait sony still makes phones??
I am like Duh!!!
I have been using moto forever and i loved the original RAZR that came in 2011 - best size and form factor ever!!
Next to that i only liked the brick shape of sony, xz1 seems so nice for that
joesee said:
My dream phone would be a utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put v4a (and prob adaway). It's crazy to me how Sony is the only manufacturer that dabbles with small phones now. Sammy tried it with the S5 mini, etc years ago, not nothing since.
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Nobody gets that!!!! I wanted the Z2 3 years ago but it went extinct before i bought it and now i finally bought xz1 for the same reason!! utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put some other stuff. Only Sony is doing that and i get so many looks for my new phone -
Sony?? why?? wait sony still makes phones??
I am like Duh!!!
I have been using moto forever and i loved the original RAZR that came in 2011 - best size and form factor ever!!
Next to that i only liked the brick shape of sony, xz1 seems so nice for that
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Nobody gets that!!!! I wanted the Z2 3 years ago but it went extinct before i bought it and now i finally bought xz1 for the same reason!! utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put some other stuff. Only Sony is doing that and i get so many looks for my new phone -
Sony?? why?? wait sony still makes phones??
I am like Duh!!!
I have been using moto forever and i loved the original RAZR that came in 2011 - best size and form factor ever!!
Next to that i only liked the brick shape of sony, xz1 seems so nice for that
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These are my only reasons for going to iOS + jailbreaks when the iPhone 6 came out. Apple is the only one who comes out with flagship compacts year after year, Sony tries but fails with camera every year :/