Hey guys
So here is the deal. Cellular South has just released a CDMA version on the Desire. I plan on picking one up very soon. Until then I am trying to find out if any devs would help me port a desire rom for use on a my network. Please contact me through pm or this thread as I will frequent it. I have no prior knowledge of porting roms for use on different devices. I am assuming I will be able to root the same way I did with my Hero as they are probably similar in that aspect. I would love to be active in this process and hopefully learn something that I can take to the next level and give back to this great community that I have had the please of being a member of for the past year. Anyway I'm starting to ramble. If this is a feasible task please help point me in the right direction.
OBSt4l0n said:
Hey guys
So here is the deal. Cellular South has just released a CDMA version on the Desire. I plan on picking one up very soon. Until then I am trying to find out if any devs would help me port a desire rom for use on a my network. Please contact me through pm or this thread as I will frequent it. I have no prior knowledge of porting roms for use on different devices. I am assuming I will be able to root the same way I did with my Hero as they are probably similar in that aspect. I would love to be active in this process and hopefully learn something that I can take to the next level and give back to this great community that I have had the please of being a member of for the past year. Anyway I'm starting to ramble. If this is a feasible task please help point me in the right direction.
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You should be able to use unrevoked 3.2 to root and install any cdma desire roms. which opendesire is the only one right now, and its still got the backlight and oj problem.
its the same phone as far as i know as USCC released last month.
purezero said:
You should be able to use unrevoked 3.2 to root and install any cdma desire roms. which opendesire is the only one right now, and its still got the backlight and oj problem.
its the same phone as far as i know as USCC released last month.
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It is the same as my US Cellular desire, so everything that we can use, you can use.
thanks guys for your quick answer. real quick question though as i cannot find an exact answer. what are those two issues please explain
I was going through the threads and what really bugs me is the virgin mobile desire development is mixed up with the Europe version. I know the phones are identical but we have a different Hboot and Software. We should separate the two versions in two different threads making it easier for users to follow the development phase.
Would make a lot of sense, however I feel like there's not enough development on this device to even bother with the separation. Plus I feel like in the future, developers who might want to make stuff for the 816 would go for the other (dual sim) versions, so the VM one would either get way less development, or all its development a lot later, when our favorite devs were asked to port it to the VM version.
I agree with this as well. Merging the types has caused irreversible bricks for people who aren't savvy in these things especially if they haven't backed up their original software via Nandroid. Now you may think just download an RUU but those are not available for the Virgin Mobile model and finding and using someone else's nandroid isn't a simple drag and drop process including the fact that they can't boot the system. They would indeed have to use for example Cyanogenmod but then people aren't even sure if its possible to restore an original backup from Cyanogen.
On top of that there is a custom kernel but no one has uploaded an original for those who want to go back to stock for squaretrade insurance purposes maybe? I would possibly hear, this sounds like a "you" problem but regardless of the device they were produced and people do use them and some people do like to mod them to the fullest extent to call it "theirs". You might say just learn but it isn't that simple for everyone. What takes an expert a few minutes/hours to arrange may take a new person months or years and with risk that they cannot restore the device in the case of a bad flash. Just saying to consider everyone not just the general population. Minorities in society deserve a chance no?
Me? Saying; I am one of these people but I can understand the difficulty when navigating through something and when their using purely codenames such as a5_dug it makes it no simpler.
One reason for this phone.
Its available in payments on the shopping websites. 199 and 6 months to pay it off with no credit check? Yes please.
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FoxyDrew said:
Would make a lot of sense, however I feel like there's not enough development on this device to even bother with the separation. Plus I feel like in the future, developers who might want to make stuff for the 816 would go for the other (dual sim) versions, so the VM one would either get way less development, or all its development a lot later, when our favorite devs were asked to port it to the VM version.
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My thoughts exactly :good:
kr338r said:
My thoughts exactly :good:
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From March 2014 to now. Rarely spoken of out of 100's of Androids. Because of the price now development is increasing. Your really telling me separating the two forums would cost you enough time to not do it? There are phones that have no development on here and are completely sectioned out amazingly.
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From March 2014 to now. Rarely spoken of out of 100's of Androids. Because of the price now development is increasing. Your really telling me separating the two forums would cost you enough time to not do it? There are phones that have no development on here and are completely sectioned out amazingly.
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Funny!!!
Talk @ confusion, I saw this in the CM11 thread?
"One question; how the F*** for the life of day and night do you restore this device back to stock without an official RUU for Virgin Mobile? "
Just messin w/ ya, splitting development would not be a good idea IMHO, more of these phones were sold for months outside of US.
VM owners are probably a small minority, so most devs probably wouldn't be bothered with our ROM, give it time, if there's market penetration, we could think @ a split from WW dev.
(as it is, there isn't much going on in dev right now anyway, I'm thankful for the CM11 port we have from Grarak & v_superuser)
Truth be told, things would be easier for us if there was a separate sub forum but it wouldn't favor us as far as development goes.
To the best of my knowledge there are a handful of devs who work with VM phones. I'm not exactly sure if any of them have jumped on the 816.
Until that happens I think it's in our best interest to hang out and wait. Right now we're dependent on those that have had the phone for about 6 months longer than we have..
v_superuser and Garak have posted their CM11 in a cl;ear enough way that DLing and running that rom should be pretty straightforward. If any future roms are posted in the same way there should be no confusion.
That being said, I can see a VM specific subforum being helpful for people who may be starting out and aren't sure about general stuff relating to VM bloatware etc.
kr338r said:
Funny!!!
Talk @ confusion, I saw this in the CM11 thread?
"One question; how the F*** for the life of day and night do you restore this device back to stock without an official RUU for Virgin Mobile? "
Just messin w/ ya, splitting development would not be a good idea IMHO, more of these phones were sold for months outside of US.
VM owners are probably a small minority, so most devs probably wouldn't be bothered with our ROM, give it time, if there's market penetration, we could think @ a split from WW dev.
(as it is, there isn't much going on in dev right now anyway, I'm thankful for the CM11 port we have from Grarak & v_superuser)
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Lol . I bricked this phone 4 times going back and forth; from the Stock ROM, to the Chinese sort of stock ROM, to Cyanogen. Done erased my /sdcard to where it wasn't mountable and brought it back with Cyanogen and sideload. (Luckily, the bootloader wasn't affected by the amount of **** I threw at it.) Tested 3 different recoveries only to find out the old version from the CM11 post was the only one that really worked the properly.
I was able to start it back up and continue to put the backup onto the internal storage since I didn't have an external SD on hand; BUT then I found out that the backup was 1.96 GBs and needed to be in the /data/media/clockworkmod/backup section of the device which was inaccessible via normal USB methods since your stuck in /data/media/0 and is considered basically a completely different partition. This phone has 8GB internal and uses 4.xxGB with its normal software when installed (yes even with Cyan) then I just put a 1.96 GB file so it was basically stopping me from copying the whole folder which was just ever so slightly annoying since I had to use ES file explorer, make a new folder with the same name, then; one by one Cut and Paste each file into the new folder in the /backup folder. This might seem like a simple process but with absolutely no guides out there for a guideline this really sucked. It's basically like; if you have this device then you know how to flash/root/etc as the norm. Trial and error. -_-
Then after looking around and seeing that VM had 55$ for their plan. I saw that Straight Talk was able to accept the MEID of this VM device without a hitch, but then I looked into different carriers for even better alternatives and saw that Ringplus had $17.99 for Unlimited Talk/Text/400MB 3G/4GLTE. I thought **** why not? Turns out Ringplus doesn't accept VM devices. (Sucks)
SO then I decided to "spoof" the IMEI/MEID/ESN with DFS/QPST (Experience) and I was able to get the MEID/ESN to change and get EvDo Rev.A service but to no avail with LTE since the IMEI is "unspoofable" without S-Off. I thought well why not $17.99 for unlimited T&T w/data? Signed up with my new "S3". lmfao
Purpose of this post?
There was at least 3-10 topics I could cover for VM Desire devices now.
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Maybe this is a dumb question but if the VM version isn't capable of dual numbers or being ported or used anywhere else why does VM advertise this as dual sim on their site as part of the device name? What would be the point of the false advertising.
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Maybe this is a dumb question but if the VM version isn't capable of dual numbers or being ported or used anywhere else why does VM advertise this as dual sim on their site as part of the device name? What would be the point of the false advertising.
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I just checked out the VMUSA site and couldn't find anything about dual sim. I did however see "Dual Mode" used for the phone. Dual mode is just a term to say that the phone uses both CDMA and GSM. CDMA for 3G and GSM for LTE.
An answer could be to have a thread under "Desire 816 General" called "Virgin Mobile Issues" or something similar. I'm guessing there could be enough traffic to keep it on the first page for a while. For example I'm still curious exactly how the -chl is best classified. Is this hybrid best thought of as a single or dual sim? Will getting s-off allow the phone (with some rom work) to be used by another carrier? Having all these VM specific questions and answers in one place would be a plus and it shouldn't interfere with the Q&A being done on the true dev work here in other threads.
Let's agree, GPS and FM Radio fixing is out of our reach right now. No one has been able to fix it and chances are no one will in the distant future. We need private code of GPS and FM Radio from ASUS and Broadcom to fix this and no one here is an expert in Reverse Engineering, So, I think it's safe to say, we can't fix this on our own.
We have a very stable CM13 for our device that very few other devices have. Heck, OnePlus X got its first official nightly a few days ago. And I think we will get Android N in the future by our developers (I hope ).
Zenfone 5 is a great device, even after 2 years, I can imagine having it for another 2 years or more but I want the next 2 years bug free and stable and I think everyone wants this.
Our primary concern should be about getting this GPS and FM Radio code because we have everything in our reach other than this. GPS and FM Radio are what we need, not different cyanogenmod-based ROMs every day.
Both the companies have rights of their own to decide whether they want to share it or not but why shouldn't we try in our own means ?
We can post daily on ZenTalk once requesting the code or just sit here enjoying our bugged ROMs.
We, as a mass, can do this. We just have to be persistent about the matter and not lose interest, Enough resistance and load on ZenTalk server and we can make an impact on them, just an impact. We just need to make sure they know we want this.
I tried to contact few of the prominent developers here but they weren't willing and I understand why, this is a lost cause if there isn't enough participation from the community. So,
I hope everyone has an opinion about this matter. We can achieve this and we will.
Sign this petition to support the cause
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/release-gps-and-fm-radios-private-code-of-asus
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This guy has raised a valid point. We have so many awesome ROMs coming up but only issue is GPS and FM. We should find out means to fix this and get out ROMs full usable.
As far as ASUS developers are concerned, they have not been able to provide us even a lollipop OTA with Battery Drain Fixed so i dont expect any help from them. They are busy making newer devices and ignoring ZF5 users who took the risk of buying an ASUS device when ASUS was a new player in the smartphone market.
Either our XDA developers have to find out something else we should flood ZenTalk to get their attention this !!!!!
XDA Developers please dont provide us too many customizations with multiple versions of the same ROM but please please try to fix GPS bug
Exactly. We need awareness, @vgpranav, you should share this in zenfone groups. Not only you, Everyone who's reading should do this. It's not about just posting on ZenTalk, it's about raising total awareness about this.
Nah. Asus is IGNORING the first generation of the zenfones since the zenfone 2 comes out with the other vesions.
Soo i think we unload our anger on Zen talk would not make a difference.
Just waisting our time..... even tho I travel a alot and i need GPS but i think ASUS just gonna point the middle finger to us then ignore our existance.......
ChristopherXI said:
Nah. Asus is IGNORING the first generation of the zenfones since the zenfone 2 comes out with the other vesions.
Soo i think we unload our anger on Zen talk would not make a difference.
Just waisting our time..... even tho I travel a alot and i need GPS but i think ASUS just gonna point the middle finger to us then ignore our existance.......
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So how you manage with RR ROM???
vgpranav said:
So how you manage with RR ROM???
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Pretty good actually )
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Pretty good actually )
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No actually m asking wat u use for navigation?? RR Rom has GPS bug
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No actually m asking wat u use for navigation?? RR Rom has GPS bug
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A-GPS working fine buddy. In the 1.9 build
I think we'll never get this private code...
What @ChristopherXI said is true, ASUS is ignoring the first generation Zenfones since the release of the Zenfone 2, proof of this is that even a good and optimized Lollipop ROM didn't come to Zenfone 5, even a OTA update for Lollipop...
ASUS disappointed me so much doing this...
It dosen't matter if asus will going to ignore us, we need to TRY, look how far we are now! remember the old days when we din't even have a forum section for our zenfone 5! and now we even have resurrection remix 5.6.7!! becouse the developers put a lot of effort for making this, and this time is for US to make an effort to them, we can do this guys!
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It dosen't matter if asus will going to ignore us, we need to TRY, look how far we are now! remember the old days when we din't even have a forum section for our zenfone 5! and now we even have resurrection remix 5.6.7!! becouse the developers put a lot of effort for making this, and this time is for US to make an effort to them, we can do this guys!
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I'm still waiting for the guy that claimed that he FIXED the GPS. Along with his Xperia rom......
TecnoTailsPlays said:
It dosen't matter if asus will going to ignore us, we need to TRY, look how far we are now! remember the old days when we din't even have a forum section for our zenfone 5! and now we even have resurrection remix 5.6.7!! becouse the developers put a lot of effort for making this, and this time is for US to make an effort to them, we can do this guys!
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FM Radio is a secondary/optional thing, as most people dont use it(have offline music or services like spotify instead), but GPS is a must, the question is how to find the proper sources, if any device has a similar hardware, it could be backported, on Motorola Atrix's time, a group built a 3.10.x kernel from scratch(literally) as 2.6.32 was totally obsolete for android 4.x(motorola's drivers just didnt work), the same can be done on the zenfone, if only people find a similar hardware with open source code and time(plus lots of testers reporting issues properly/logcats).
Complain about it wont fix it, finding a workaround will.
OMG.
Source code of driver for our GPS chip was published on Github.
The problem is this source code is for device with arm processor. (our device has a x86 processor)
The other way to use a reverse engineering. It have been done too. But it does not work.
It is very hard to fix it because Bluetooth.apk, bluetooth.default.so and gpsd has many dependencies.
tank0412 said:
OMG.
Source code of driver for our GPS chip was published on Github.
The problem is this source code is for device with arm processor. (our device has a x86 processor)
The other way to use a reverse engineering. It have been done too. But it does not work.
It is very hard to fix it because Bluetooth.apk, bluetooth.default.so and gpsd has many dependencies.
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Publish ?
Actually if you gonna do it, include fastboot and Intel firmware files in your request (for freeze :laugh: )
What you think, can we send the same message, just change our name, and put the link of this thread... Toguether we can!!! :good:
TecnoTailsPlays said:
It dosen't matter if asus will going to ignore us, we need to TRY, look how far we are now! remember the old days when we din't even have a forum section for our zenfone 5! and now we even have resurrection remix 5.6.7!! becouse the developers put a lot of effort for making this, and this time is for US to make an effort to them, we can do this guys!
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This is what I'm talking about. Apparently, people just want more ROMs otherwise this post would've gotten more attention. @tank0412 Link for the published code ?
ambrico said:
What you think, can we send the same message, just change our name, and put the link of this thread... Toguether we can!!! :good:
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YES ! Same Title " RELEASE GPS AND FM RADIO PRIVATE CODE " with different/same message. I did make a post but it was ignored.
My thread had the message
"Please release Zenfone 5's source code, So that we can enjoy stable GPS-FM Radio enabled Custom ROMs. If you're not going to provide updates, let the dev community do it. We don't want your updates now, just release the source code. We need the private code of GPS and FM Radio of ASUS and Broadcom to make these functions work on custom ROMs.
I love my Zenfone 5, but it's been an absolute disappointment to see other devices get stable custom ROMs and watching my device still running on stock. This device has potential even after 2 years and I think it'll run for another two for me if you release the code.
Thanks."
Everyone can use this as a reference in their thread for posting ! Let's go !
Guys lets get them
So lets flood them with our requests so that they cant ignore us anymore
1) Visit Zentalk forum (http://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=107)
2) Create Thread with title "RELEASE GPS AND FM RADIO PRIVATE CODE"
3) Content
"Please release Zenfone 5's source code, So that we can enjoy stable GPS-FM Radio enabled Custom ROMs. If you're not going to provide updates, let the dev community do it. We don't want your updates now, just release the source code. We need the source code that is injected under Bluetooth app and Framework to make GPS, FM Radio work.
I love my Zenfone 5, but it's been an absolute disappointment to see other devices get stable custom ROMs and watching my device still running on stock. This device has potential even after 2 years and I think it'll run for another two for me if you release the code.
Thanks"
WE NEED MORE SUPPORT SO THAT WE CAN CAUSE AN IMPACT. LETS DO IT GUYS !!!!!!!!!!
adrian028 said:
When i go to the site its tells me this:
An error occurred while processing your request.
Reference #97.384b3917.1461855869.4848b34
What?
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Bro plz search for the forum manually...the link is nt wrkng 4 u maybe
I'm note sure if this is even the right a forum to do this, but I couldn't find any forums for requests, and saw nothing in the rules against it...
As I see it right now, the Verizon Note 4 is getting a real lack of love even despite the Bootloader finally having been unlocked.
So I was wondering if anyone has a Linux PC, and would be able to port the Open Source Resurrection Remix ROM to the Galaxy Note 4 Verizon. Sadly, I do not have a Linux PC, or a hard drive I can afford to format at this moment, or I'd try and do it myself.
If anyone takes up the request, thank you.
There's really enough here to play with for a while. You're on your first post, and asking for more development. Maybe getting into some other rom threads and flashing, tweaking, repeating for a bit will fill your need. Then, after that, you can port your own roms. There are a number of roms in the international thread that are able to be flashed on our phones with data fixes etc.
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There are a number of roms in the international thread that are able to be flashed on our phones with data fixes etc.[/URL]
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Can you direct me to a tutorial to do said data fixes, then?
So why 5g Ver does'nt have so much (stable enough)rom like 4g Ver does?
I even want to replace my 5G ver to 4G ...
Are you posing a philosphical question? Anyway, there are other resources that might have the ROMs you need. Some of them are not posted here because they might not be able to comply with XDA requirements, or because they want to maintain an alternate support channel. Hopefully more developers will get to own this phone and develop custom ROMs for it. In the meantime let us appreciate those devs who have shared their work here.