How can my s4 mini detect bigger battery? I bought extended battery... - Galaxy S 4 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

but it lasts the same... i used several applications and all of them detect 1900mah.

No chance, you have too selfcompile the kernel to change the capacity. I have a 2100mah battery and the same "problem".
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hrodeberht

So is the "detected" capacity actually hardcoded to what the oioginal vendor's battery was? Is that even a problem then, other than the misinformation on the battery info? I mean, it should still charge to its full capacity, since even if it's bigger - the charge process should still stop charging it at the same limit voltage, and it should be very similar (if not the same) whether it's 1900 or 2100 mAh battery, right?
Or am I wrong here?

Hi, a real detection is only possible by testing the accu. In a externsl station. Without that you eont be enable to check capacity. The phone will charge the accu until it is full. An app doesnt can detected the capacity.
Ok, maybe its possible if the s4 mini have a realtime current measure and it adds all current over time and count all. Then ir could be possible, with a few full to low cycles.

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mah vs battery type

Hey guys, anyone knows if i have :
2 double AA wif 2700mah each that gives u 5400mah (using energizer energi to go) compared to lithium batt of 5000mah (using sanyo mobile booster double li on batt)
which one would be better at charging our high power consumption PDA eg. HTC touch HD?
It's not just about mAh
It's not just about the mah of the battery; you also have voltages to think about.
I have a good investment in 1.2v nimh batteries - so 2 of those would give me 4000mah if connected in parallel but only provide 1.2v of.... voltage. Then, consider your phone - it probably has a 3.7v lion battery. To get to the same total capacity and voltage, you would need to have 3 batteries connected in series (give you 3.6v or possibly a touch more if really full) to get close to 3.7v at 2000 mah.
I've built external packs for my Creative Nomad Zen (same type of battery, 3.7v 1000mah) using 4 aa batteries (4.8v, 2000mah.) The stock charger was 5v 1000mah, so it was close enough. A bit bulky, but it worked great in the car where I didn't want to buy a charger and already had the batteries. Of course, odd things can happen when the voltage of the "charger" goes below the expected input. As an extender for something USB Chargable, you could probably do the same thing with 4 batteries to simulate a charger and extend your runtime. I'd suggest "aaa" batteries to make the pack smaller.
Do not try this if you have no clue regarding electronics. You can hurt your phone, hurt yourself and light stuff on fire. And not in a cool way.
Sorry bro didnt quite understood ur conclusion here.. Wasnt electronics trained and educated haha. But anyway yah i do understand mah is not the main thing here..
But rather the voltage. So i would suppose a lithium works better at charging high power devices given approximately the same mah specs?
Alright; just so we're clear - your question is regarding whether a lion/cell battery will do better than another chemistry battery when powering a phone?
The real boom is power to weight. Look at a double a battery and compare that to your cell battery. Hold both of them - the lithium ones for a given capacity will be lighter and smaller.
Both could power a device like a cell phone for similar time, given the same capacity.
Hope that helps....
oh thx! that realli helps.. But however with regards to sanyo's website. 2x 2100mah enelop batteries could onli power a cell phone for 70mins. But its lithium 5000mah could power it for 2hrs! Doesnt that conclude that lithium gives more power given the same capacity?
Even same mah Li-ion is better than NiMH due to discharge characteristics. Li batteries lose very little voltage from Topped up to full allowable discharge. So has more usable power for a device that was built for nearly constant voltage like ours.

[Q] Modified Battery

i was just wondering if we can modify the battery.. what i mean is to operate device with the Li-ion batteries that arent for excalibur.. like batteries designed for nokia having same VDC but higher mAh... is it possible? or will it b of no use.. has any one tried this type of stuff before?
yes
it possible
you can modified NOkia BL-5c with excalibur batery
some people do it in Viet Nam
i'm not good at English so i can talk about it clearly
if you use batrere with a more current(mAh) that will create excess heat in the device, while the problem of voltage (VDC) is up to you is still within the limits of tolerance of the Voltage original battery
Hakim Rahman said:
if you use batrere with a more current(mAh) that will create excess heat in the device, while the problem of voltage (VDC) is up to you is still within the limits of tolerance of the Voltage original battery
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but there are 1500mAh battery for excalibur.. does that means tht if we use such battery it will heat the device????
can u explain further????
Any Li.Ion battery will do it. It is also safe to charge it - as normally the chargers are adjusting their charge current by the voltage of the battery. This is linked to chemistry (Li.Ion) and this is identical for all such batteries. The Capacity in mAh does not matter for charging (it just takes longer) - there are also extended capacity batteries available and they are equally safe to use.
Possibly the temperature sensor in the batteries maybe different e.g. for Nokia so the device may refuse to charge it (thinking it is "too hot" - or "invalid") - you will need to try out or rely on reports who have succeeded already. You MUST(!) take care that polarity is identical (+ and -) for a replacement, otherwise you may ruin the device, battery or even your health.

battery M9 with different capacity

Does anyone tried a different battery capacity? I found a 3000 mAh on ebay, did anyone tried it?
Do you think is harmful?
Thank you in advance
Is this battery built by HTC was is a third-party battery that is working with HTC?
It isn't a HTC battery, is a spare with more capacity, but I don't know if it's harmful or not, I didn't found anything in internet about it...
I don't think the battery capacity will harm the phone, maybe just the battery will hold longer or not, depends on it's quality.
The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
znarf77 said:
The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
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The phone will charge and discharge the extra 150mAh but the correct capacity will not be reported by software.
Anyway 2850 vs 3000 is a little change, and if the battery quality is lower than HTC original battery maybe you'll not see any difference or maybe the battery will hold shorter.
znarf77 said:
The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
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From what i've seen on the Galaxy Gear S forums, somebody fitted a bigger battery inside and it worked just fine.
And his watch now lasts a few more days.
Anyway, for 150mAh more is simply not worth the risk.

How to maintain optimal battery performance?

I did not use any applications supporting / suggesting exploitation activities. In general, I try to minimize the amount of all apk.
I was charging the battery slowly from the computer's USB port. For over 2 years, the Redmi 4x phone with a mega-large Li-Po battery, about 4100 mAh, practically does not stick out from the new one. According to the AccuBattery application, its current approximate capacity is about 3915 mAh.
https://imgur.com/a/mJxqfM0
I also never needed a particularly high demand for electricity. Simple conversations or several websites you have checked on the Internet. Most of the time in wakefulness or rummaging around in settings
Sony XA2, unfortunately, has a much smaller battery and, in addition, not Li-Ion, but Li-Pol, but still quite large when it comes to this price range and dimensions.
I believe that a smartphone with a battery> 3300 mAh misses the point and it is an absolute minimum. It's a pity there is no Amoled screen then the runtime would be even longer. Back to the topic:
1
The same application suggests disconnecting the charging at 80%, is it worth doing? Thus, the number of charging cycles increases, on the other hand, it is said that it is worth not to fully charge the Li-Po battery. Perhaps it would be more optimal to 90%?
2
similarly with discharge ... to 0, as it used to be, even not allowed!
3
What other apps do you use? What's worth your attention and doesn't need too many permissions?

Changing battery capacity

hellou guys. wanted to ask a question about battery, cause somewhere on internet i saw that battery capacity info is saved in kernel.
ive replaced stock battery 3430mah with a battery for 6200mah in google pixel 3xl. But in any battery info program and in AIDA64 it shows the same 3430 just like before replacement.
so the question is, do anyone knows how to change phone info about battery capacity?
Probably the capacity of that battery is wrong.maybe is the same or lower.and as far as I know the kernel has to be updated to the correct capacity if it's not a fake one that you buy.
vasiliouv84 said:
Probably the capacity of that battery is wrong.maybe is the same or lower.and as far as I know the kernel has to be updated to the correct capacity if it's not a fake one that you buy.
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ive monitored im getting charge counter more than 3430 sometimes, so i can get higher than 3430. but it cant cause of limitations of charging(it hits 100% and charging just stops)
so i dont think its fake
Battery charge is estimated through output voltage, some newer phones might have smart baterries but they are also measuring current and charging power to estimate life time. What apps and phone tells you is actually capacity propotional to voltage level. Putting a double capacity battery seems fake because of physical restrictions, again charge capacity reporting is based on kernel and you had to modifiy everytime you apply an update.
So why bother, as long as you have 8-10 sot with normal daily usage ? But are you really getting that sot's ?

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