hellou guys. wanted to ask a question about battery, cause somewhere on internet i saw that battery capacity info is saved in kernel.
ive replaced stock battery 3430mah with a battery for 6200mah in google pixel 3xl. But in any battery info program and in AIDA64 it shows the same 3430 just like before replacement.
so the question is, do anyone knows how to change phone info about battery capacity?
Probably the capacity of that battery is wrong.maybe is the same or lower.and as far as I know the kernel has to be updated to the correct capacity if it's not a fake one that you buy.
vasiliouv84 said:
Probably the capacity of that battery is wrong.maybe is the same or lower.and as far as I know the kernel has to be updated to the correct capacity if it's not a fake one that you buy.
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ive monitored im getting charge counter more than 3430 sometimes, so i can get higher than 3430. but it cant cause of limitations of charging(it hits 100% and charging just stops)
so i dont think its fake
Battery charge is estimated through output voltage, some newer phones might have smart baterries but they are also measuring current and charging power to estimate life time. What apps and phone tells you is actually capacity propotional to voltage level. Putting a double capacity battery seems fake because of physical restrictions, again charge capacity reporting is based on kernel and you had to modifiy everytime you apply an update.
So why bother, as long as you have 8-10 sot with normal daily usage ? But are you really getting that sot's ?
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Hello!
My S4 Mini's (LTE) battery isn't really good and I would like to buy a bigger replacement.
I've found this https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32670956124.html but it doesn't really convincing, but it's very cheap.
Yes I know about NFC cheap, but I don't use NFC.
What do you think? Could I buy it? Or it doesn't worth that money?
Your money, your rules.
I would say yes
Warning!
I heard some bad things about Aliexpress. I wouldnt buy something there.
I've bought one. Inside there are 2 stacked cells that are slightly smaller than the original battery. The actual capacity would be around 1.8x the original. The other problem is that you need to make a change in the battery management driver source code and recompile the kernel to reflect the increased battery size to have an accurate battery gauge. (search the xda forums for the thread) Other wise the phone will report 0% and shutdown when in fact the battery is half full. You can switch it on again and it will report around 50% but again it will shut down when the battery is still has a quarter charge in it.
I have the recompiled kernel for 12.1-20151117 for the serranoltexx as a .zip you can patch in recovery if you would like it.
Retrofitter said:
I've bought one. Inside there are 2 stacked cells that are slightly smaller than the original battery. The actual capacity would be around 1.8x the original. The other problem is that you need to make a change in the battery management driver source code and recompile the kernel to reflect the increased battery size to have an accurate battery gauge. (search the xda forums for the thread) Other wise the phone will report 0% and shutdown when in fact the battery is half full. You can switch it on again and it will report around 50% but again it will shut down when the battery is still has a quarter charge in it.
I have the recompiled kernel for 12.1-20151117 for the serranoltexx as a .zip you can patch in recovery if you would like it.
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Canyou share the link which you got help while u were editing kernel
umuturunc said:
Canyou share the link which you got help while u were editing kernel
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51241394&postcount=17
I bought lots of stuff at aliexpress. They always deliver.. Until now. lol.
I also bought some high capacity battery's for my old s2 plus.
Although the capacity they say will not be reached, it is still a good battery in most cases.
Check the reviews on the site, loads of people comment and if the battery is crap you'll know fast enough.
Hi,
just to share with you, I bought similar one from dx.com SKU: 252144
advertised: 6300 (Actual 5500) mAh
Mesured it with RC models li-on charger, twice...
safe conditions 500mA charge/100mA discharge and acctual capacity is far from declared and around 2900mAh
Just skip it.
but it lasts the same... i used several applications and all of them detect 1900mah.
No chance, you have too selfcompile the kernel to change the capacity. I have a 2100mah battery and the same "problem".
Regards
hrodeberht
So is the "detected" capacity actually hardcoded to what the oioginal vendor's battery was? Is that even a problem then, other than the misinformation on the battery info? I mean, it should still charge to its full capacity, since even if it's bigger - the charge process should still stop charging it at the same limit voltage, and it should be very similar (if not the same) whether it's 1900 or 2100 mAh battery, right?
Or am I wrong here?
Hi, a real detection is only possible by testing the accu. In a externsl station. Without that you eont be enable to check capacity. The phone will charge the accu until it is full. An app doesnt can detected the capacity.
Ok, maybe its possible if the s4 mini have a realtime current measure and it adds all current over time and count all. Then ir could be possible, with a few full to low cycles.
Does anyone tried a different battery capacity? I found a 3000 mAh on ebay, did anyone tried it?
Do you think is harmful?
Thank you in advance
Is this battery built by HTC was is a third-party battery that is working with HTC?
It isn't a HTC battery, is a spare with more capacity, but I don't know if it's harmful or not, I didn't found anything in internet about it...
I don't think the battery capacity will harm the phone, maybe just the battery will hold longer or not, depends on it's quality.
The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
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The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
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The phone will charge and discharge the extra 150mAh but the correct capacity will not be reported by software.
Anyway 2850 vs 3000 is a little change, and if the battery quality is lower than HTC original battery maybe you'll not see any difference or maybe the battery will hold shorter.
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The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
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From what i've seen on the Galaxy Gear S forums, somebody fitted a bigger battery inside and it worked just fine.
And his watch now lasts a few more days.
Anyway, for 150mAh more is simply not worth the risk.
First of all, I know that my OP3 will NOT Recognize the extra battery capacity. I know this has been asked before, but my question is not related to whether If I'll get extra battery or not.
With this being said, let me introduce my problem and possible solution. So basically I've been getting consistently bad battery life on my OP3, funny thing that I could get awesome battery life in the past, but this no longer the case. I've tried everything so don't suggest changing ROMs or Factory Reseting.
I was thinking of attempt a battery replacement myself. I have a OP3, but I wanted to put a OP3T battery on it. I know that the phone will only recognize 3400 mAh and not the full capacity of the 3T battery, but I was thinking that the 3T battery might last longer in terms of life expand. The problem with my battery is that it has lost capacity (or that's what I think it's). So my thoughts are, If I get a larger battery (even If I won't get the full capacity of it) It might last longer since If it loses capacity out of 3400 mAh, I would still only need those 3000 mAh, so gives more room for possible capacity lost. As JerryRigsEverything did the swap and seems like nothing went wrong I was wondering If it'd be possible in paper what I was suggesting.
On AliExpress the battery doesn't seem to expensive. If I were you I would go for it and try. In theory your battery should lose capacity way slower just like you said. You are not going to fully charge the battery which can have really great effect on minimizing capacity lose. Let me know if it improved your battery life! I am facing the same issue where I get 3 hours SoT max over 12 hours of not charging while my phone is asleep for 80% of the time.
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Is it even possible to somehow get the op3 to recognize it has a 3400mah battery in it? Maybe by altering firmware or something?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...lacing-3400-mah-oneplus-3t-oneplus-3-t3510883
I found this battery on AliExpress among others that claim to have bigger capacity than the original. Has anyone tried aftermarket batteries? Any advice?
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I found this battery on AliExpress among others that claim to have bigger capacity than the original. Has anyone tried aftermarket batteries? Any advice?
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Well it should work since it is the same Voltage. Voltage is a really important one. Several people have tried it on other phones and it worked fine.
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I found this battery on AliExpress among others that claim to have bigger capacity than the original. Has anyone tried aftermarket batteries? Any advice?
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You can go through this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...lacing-3400-mah-oneplus-3t-oneplus-3-t3510883
I would like to know if it works in case you buy this, brother and if it really improves the battery life. Ideally, since voltage is same it shouldn't cause any issues.
The thread of putting 3400mah 3T battery in 3 doesn't work because of different voltage.
It might work or it might not. I've seen cases on YouTube with batteries of different capacities inserted in android phone that would work, and they greatly increased the phone's life. I will try myself in the end, but I was curious if someone did it before me.. like, would it charge, would it show up as the capacity stated, will it last longer, etc
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It might work or it might not. I've seen cases on YouTube with batteries of different capacities inserted in android phone that would work, and they greatly increased the phone's life. I will try myself in the end, but I was curious if someone did it before me.. like, would it charge, would it show up as the capacity stated, will it last longer, etc
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Let me know bro, if it works. I'll also order then. Also test on both stock and custom ROMs.
Looking at the Voltages it should work.
Recently OnePlus has patched their bootloader so the phone won't boot If you swap the battery for the one of OP3T (3400 mAh).
I'm not sure what they check for determine whether is the original OP3 battery or the OP3T battery, my guesses are the Voltages or the Raw capacity of the battery.
If they check the Voltages, since the Voltage of the OP3 battery is Nominal 3.80 (V) and Charge 4.35 (V) vs the 3.85 (V) and 4.40 (V) on the OP3T battery, therefore that battery should work. But If they check the capacity of the battery that battery won't work or neither of the battery that are more than 3000 mAh
Let us know If you try it!
@XDRdaniel Answering your questions, If it works;
Yes, it should charge (as the charger/motherboard/USB Power Delivery is rated for those voltages), It might not show the full capacity but that could be modified (not big deal) but it would charge to the full capacity and Yes it should last longer, assuming that the cell used are from a good quality.