3500mAh - OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers

I found this battery on AliExpress among others that claim to have bigger capacity than the original. Has anyone tried aftermarket batteries? Any advice?

XDRdaniel said:
I found this battery on AliExpress among others that claim to have bigger capacity than the original. Has anyone tried aftermarket batteries? Any advice?
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Well it should work since it is the same Voltage. Voltage is a really important one. Several people have tried it on other phones and it worked fine.

XDRdaniel said:
I found this battery on AliExpress among others that claim to have bigger capacity than the original. Has anyone tried aftermarket batteries? Any advice?
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You can go through this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...lacing-3400-mah-oneplus-3t-oneplus-3-t3510883

I would like to know if it works in case you buy this, brother and if it really improves the battery life. Ideally, since voltage is same it shouldn't cause any issues.
The thread of putting 3400mah 3T battery in 3 doesn't work because of different voltage.

It might work or it might not. I've seen cases on YouTube with batteries of different capacities inserted in android phone that would work, and they greatly increased the phone's life. I will try myself in the end, but I was curious if someone did it before me.. like, would it charge, would it show up as the capacity stated, will it last longer, etc

XDRdaniel said:
It might work or it might not. I've seen cases on YouTube with batteries of different capacities inserted in android phone that would work, and they greatly increased the phone's life. I will try myself in the end, but I was curious if someone did it before me.. like, would it charge, would it show up as the capacity stated, will it last longer, etc
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Let me know bro, if it works. I'll also order then. Also test on both stock and custom ROMs.

Looking at the Voltages it should work.
Recently OnePlus has patched their bootloader so the phone won't boot If you swap the battery for the one of OP3T (3400 mAh).
I'm not sure what they check for determine whether is the original OP3 battery or the OP3T battery, my guesses are the Voltages or the Raw capacity of the battery.
If they check the Voltages, since the Voltage of the OP3 battery is Nominal 3.80 (V) and Charge 4.35 (V) vs the 3.85 (V) and 4.40 (V) on the OP3T battery, therefore that battery should work. But If they check the capacity of the battery that battery won't work or neither of the battery that are more than 3000 mAh
Let us know If you try it!
@XDRdaniel Answering your questions, If it works;
Yes, it should charge (as the charger/motherboard/USB Power Delivery is rated for those voltages), It might not show the full capacity but that could be modified (not big deal) but it would charge to the full capacity and Yes it should last longer, assuming that the cell used are from a good quality.

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NEED HELP:4800mAh Cameron Sino Battery and original 1620mAh battery problems!

first of all im sorry if this issue seems to be redundant to all....
im a bit confused to some of the post on this forum regarding this issue...
(so please bear with me...especially to the mods out there)
i do have this battery and it seems that it wont even last for atleast a day...
is this normal for this brand of battery or 4800mAh battery?
how long is the normal standby time for 4800mAh battery?
i also have an original 1620mAh battery and it even last longer than my 4800mAh battery..
can anyone here help me on what to do?
is there anyone in here can prove that 3200 or 1620 is much much better than 4800?
and one more question...i also have a 2 spare 1620mAh battery....
one of it turns off at 75% the other at 21%....
i've tried resetting them both but no of luck..still the same..
is there any other possible way for me to use them and drain them up to 0% or atleast 10%?
thanks in advance!
3200 will last twice as long as 1620; 4800 three times.
However, this is given they are all the same manufacturer. Some batteries are better than others. Cheap eBay batteries are known to give problems - however I have had good as well as bad one's from eBay.
Also, batteries will wear out after a while - I think suggested time is a year or two.
I have four 1620's which last from 50 minutes to 3 hours (constant useage with backlight on). My 3200 lasts 6 hours.
I find that whichever (fully charged) battery is in Uni when I upgrade ROM, will give accurate reading. The reading becomes inaccuate (turning off a x%) when I swap for different battery.
ROM Upgrade & battery
so your saying that when i upgrade or change rom..
1. the battery should be at 100% charge..?
2. and the battery that i used when upgrading should be the one to be used until it drains to 0%? coz when i replace the battery thats the time it will shut off at X%?
is my understanding correct?
if i may ask...what brand of battery would you recommend for a 4800mAh?
and would you recommend 4800mAh?
ive seen DUKE NUKEM's post..he's selling batteries right?im planning to buy 2 pcs of 4800mAh....but the problem is i dont have a PAYPAL account and im a bit confused coz some say 3200 is much better than 4800..and some say 1620 is the best...
thanks for your help sir jonny....
Yes, you are correct.
I don't have a 4800, so can't comment.
Anyone else got a recommendation?
The main reason that people prefer one battery over another is due to the size. Most people seem to like the 1600 because the Universal is fat enough without having a huge battery sticking out the back! Other people may be biased toward a certain capacity because they bought a duff battery.
Personally I'll use a 1600 and carry a spare sometimes... unless I know I'm going to need juice (for a plane trip etc) and I'll stick in my 3200.
what to do on batteries shutting off at x%?
sir jonny do you know a way on how to correct those batteries that shuts off at x%?
coz what im doing is
1.charge the battery to full
2.put an adhesive tape to cover the second connector of the battery
3.then drain the battery using my UNI or using 3 LEDs...
4.charge the battery again to full
the problem is that it still shuts off at x%...
some claims that this corrects the problem..
am i doing the right way or is there any possible way?
ive seen some threads regarding this issue but in my case it dont work..
ive got 3 pcs of 1620mAh with this problem..
thanks again for your help...
Did you charge it with your original charger? If not, you can't get 4800 mah.
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sir jonny do you know a way on how to correct those batteries that shuts off at x%?
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Haven't we just been through this?
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Haven't we just been through this?
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ooops!sorry my bad....
anyway thanks for your help.
huysmall said:
Did you charge it with your original charger? If not, you can't get 4800 mah.
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im always using the original charger....but if your talking about the initial charging prior to shipping of the battery...i cant answer that because i bought that battery from a friend...and it is a second hand battery..but he told me that he just used the battery once and havent asked about what charger he used.
I have done some efforts regarding battery capacity measurement Just lookup this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5558383#post5558383
I would suggest stay away from the Sino Cameron batts. They simply suck. I have one 1650 and another 4800. Both not very up to stretch, especially the 4800. By all means it does NOT last three times as the standard batt. I'd say perhaps just about two times in reality. Perhaps not. I just keep seeing the batt level dropping fast. Plus the build quality is a real issue. Somehow the 4800 gets too fat and the batt cover cannot completely fit in the slot. Three times the size but just a little power boost. It's cheap, but now I regret having wasting money on them...
Then I switched to Momax. It's just a standard 1500. But it shines! Battery drains pretty slowly and stably (no sudden dropping). It's a bit more expensive than those crappy Camerons, yet it's worth the extra dollars.
Yes, right
It´s always better to go for the original one
soyabean said:
I would suggest stay away from the Sino Cameron batts. They simply suck. I have one 1650 and another 4800. Both not very up to stretch, especially the 4800. By all means it does NOT last three times as the standard batt. I'd say perhaps just about two times in reality. Perhaps not. I just keep seeing the batt level dropping fast. Plus the build quality is a real issue. Somehow the 4800 gets too fat and the batt cover cannot completely fit in the slot. Three times the size but just a little power boost. It's cheap, but now I regret having wasting money on them...
Then I switched to Momax. It's just a standard 1500. But it shines! Battery drains pretty slowly and stably (no sudden dropping). It's a bit more expensive than those crappy Camerons, yet it's worth the extra dollars.
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If you want a good battery for your Universal, I will suggest you to buy a 3200 mAh battery from ebay, it's the best
Which brand of 3200 batt do you recommend?
I have 2 similar 3200mah batteries but to speak frankly, I used them mainly at home and when I go out I take 2 1620mah batteries with me. The 3200mah is simply too huge & heavy - since the Uni is a big phone, people may find it funny if they see the overal size especially when you are putting it near your cheek when receiving/making calls! You can check this link - the seller also sells cheap 1620mah:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3200mAh-Extended-Battery-For-HTC-Universal-O2-Xda-Exec_W0QQitemZ270540854225QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3efd7dd3d1
rosscruz08 said:
first of all im sorry if this issue seems to be redundant to all....
im a bit confused to some of the post on this forum regarding this issue...
(so please bear with me...especially to the mods out there)
i do have this battery and it seems that it wont even last for atleast a day...
is this normal for this brand of battery or 4800mAh battery?
how long is the normal standby time for 4800mAh battery?
i also have an original 1620mAh battery and it even last longer than my 4800mAh battery..
can anyone here help me on what to do?
is there anyone in here can prove that 3200 or 1620 is much much better than 4800?
and one more question...i also have a 2 spare 1620mAh battery....
one of it turns off at 75% the other at 21%....
i've tried resetting them both but no of luck..still the same..
is there any other possible way for me to use them and drain them up to 0% or atleast 10%?
thanks in advance!
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No bro!! Cameron Sino is garbage batery I did buy the samew batery and dont worksmy uni works like a stove and the batery drains faster.

[Q] Regarding 3500mAh battery!

Hey guys I just saw a 3500mAh battery for SGS2 on ebay. Is it safe to use such battery? I mean it won't harm the phone, will it? :O
Probably won't harm the phone, no.
I bought a 3500mAh obscurely branded Chinese battery in mid-December. Tried it out for almost two weeks, a bunch of charge/discharge cycles & estimated its real capacity was around 1900mAh. It also used to heat up a lot on recharge (mid-high 40's Celsius, which isn't normal when the phone isn't being used whilst charging).
I took it back, got a refund & bought an original Samsung 2000mAh battery. Hasn't missed a beat, is obviously close to its advertised capacity given I get around 20% more use out of a charge than I do with a 1600mAh battery.
Obviously your mileage may vary if you buy one of these (you might have a better experience than I did), just thought I'd let you know about my experience.
MistahBungle said:
Probably won't harm the phone, no.
I bought a 3500mAh obscurely branded Chinese battery in mid-December. Tried it out for almost two weeks, a bunch of charge/discharge cycles & estimated its real capacity was around 1900mAh. It also used to heat up a lot on recharge (mid-high 40's Celsius, which isn't normal when the phone isn't being used whilst charging).
I took it back, got a refund & bought an original Samsung 2000mAh battery. Hasn't missed a beat, is obviously close to its advertised capacity given I get around 20% more use out of a charge than I do with a 1600mAh battery.
Obviously your mileage may vary if you buy one of these (you might have a better experience than I did), just thought I'd let you know about my experience.
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Thank you very much!
chinmayanaokar said:
Hey guys I just saw a 3500mAh battery for SGS2 on ebay. Is it safe to use such battery? I mean it won't harm the phone, will it? :O
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Well i heard that their batteries exploded in their phones......so be careful.....better pay for a better one instead of having a chance to ruin your expensive phone.
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I have one of those I got from DealExtreme and it is great. It lasts 2x longer than the original Samsung battery.
I take care not to swap them often, because I am afraid that this action might damage the original cover, eventually breaking it.
Battery Life
I am still using the 1650 mAh battery (stock) for my S2.
I am really facing some battery issues. Its charging almost all day !
Yes I am using 3G all day and WiFi HotSpot too. But use wifi at home. Thats when I get good battery life. Any better way to conserve some battery ?
Any tips might help
Thanks
Got mine a few days ago from eBay and its been fine so far. It last more than 2x the regular battery. Phone does not heat up or anything strange..
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well i an getting with the original battery 24H of usage.
with the 3500mah i am getting 60H of usage... so my 3500 is truly 3500mah!
the language is hebrew.
i use congnition rom 1.51 and siyah kernel.
So, where can I see a trustful review on batteries for SGS2? What is the most extended one?
It's really frustrating that my current stock battery is only enough for 2 hd video view (4-5 hours).
Also, the higher the mAh value the more battery lifetime is, right?
I would really want to buy 3500 mAh, but it costs so little.
And the official Samsung variant that offers the longest lifetime of a battery for SGS2 is this one, maybe Mugen 3500 mAh is the best choice out there?
chenrp said:
well i an getting with the original battery 24H of usage.
with the 3500mah i am getting 60H of usage... so my 3500 is truly 3500mah!
the language is hebrew.
i use congnition rom 1.51 and siyah kernel.
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What is the model name of the battery? Is it being overheated in comparison to stock one?
why should it overheat?
it is lithium ... same same
Yes, it's special lithium from China extracted under full moon and blessed by a thousand virgins
Really now, if it was possible to manufacture a battery having more than double the capacity of the stock battery while taking up the same volume, don't you think the megacorporate Samsung would buy that technology immediately in order to use it themselves ? "Too cheap to be true" is valid even here; most knock-off batteries either are fake ("9999 mAH SUPER EXTRA" sticker over the original rating), or will degrade quickly in time leaving you with a dud.
Since there are already fake electronic components...
... why not fake and cheap batteries too, certainly seems to be a high demand for them.
a. it is not the same volume! in is twice as much as the original.
b. the i9100 has a circuit that allows a slow stable charge rate so i dont think it will damage the battery.
As well as being made of inferior materials, not being subjected to the same QC, not having the fuel gauge chip present in original Samsung batteries, you pretty much get what you pay for.
My advice would be to avoid non-original batteries altogether, and given a 2000mAh original battery will cost around the same as one of these 3000mAh+ batteries with all their problems & poor life, it's a no brainer.
Stick with Samsung batteries.
fuel gauge chip?
i would like to see that chip in an any cellphone battery please.
If you're not aware of/don't know about the fuel gauge chip in original SGS2 batteries, you've probably been living under a rock since the phone was released
chenrp said:
fuel gauge chip?
i would like to see that chip in an any cellphone battery please.
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MistahBungle said:
If you're not aware of/don't know about the fuel gauge chip in original SGS2 batteries, you've probably been living under a rock since the phone was released
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well i think that you misunderstood the meaning fuel gauge.
there is no chip in the battery that is in charge of the fuel gauge.
furthermore there is no use of recalibrating the battery in out i9100 model.
all you gave me is a link you Google...
please... show me that chip! i would like to learn something new about lithium batteries..
Plz can you Possible link topic of the battery
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chenrp said:
why should it overheat?
it is lithium ... same same
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What about the other question that you chose to ignore, regarding the battery's model that you mentioned.
thanks for the info guys,
cuz I need a battery really disparately cuz I use so much data and sync :'(
I couldn't find something really reliable feedback from viewers, and i'm trying to find something with good quality as well!
guess i have to search further!
VAXXi said:
Yes, it's special lithium from China extracted under full moon and blessed by a thousand virgins
Really now, if it was possible to manufacture a battery having more than double the capacity of the stock battery while taking up the same volume, don't you think the megacorporate Samsung would buy that technology immediately in order to use it themselves ? "Too cheap to be true" is valid even here; most knock-off batteries either are fake ("9999 mAH SUPER EXTRA" sticker over the original rating), or will degrade quickly in time leaving you with a dud.
Since there are already fake electronic components...
... why not fake and cheap batteries too, certainly seems to be a high demand for them.
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You have a point mate! Thanks

Internal Battery 3830mAh??

Found this battery on Aliexpress http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...D821-D820-battery-BLT9/339866_1760720916.html
Wondering if thats even possible? and if anyone have tryd it out?
the battery is easily replaceable if you know how to open up the phone
I know how to change it. Wondering if this is possible 3830mAh where the stock battery is just 2300mAh.
Buy it and put it in battery tester. File a claim if it's not 3800 mAh.
wackyleaks said:
I know how to change it. Wondering if this is possible 3830mAh where the stock battery is just 2300mAh.
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Non-OEM batteries make false claims about their ratings on a daily basis. They never provide as much power as they claim and using them increases the risk of your phone exploding.
Even if it's a full 3830 mAh the cheap knock-off batteries like that typically have greatly increased internal resistance which leads to not actually achieving any better battery life.
It's not ideal but if you really longer battery life I'd recommend an external option, like this.

battery M9 with different capacity

Does anyone tried a different battery capacity? I found a 3000 mAh on ebay, did anyone tried it?
Do you think is harmful?
Thank you in advance
Is this battery built by HTC was is a third-party battery that is working with HTC?
It isn't a HTC battery, is a spare with more capacity, but I don't know if it's harmful or not, I didn't found anything in internet about it...
I don't think the battery capacity will harm the phone, maybe just the battery will hold longer or not, depends on it's quality.
The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
znarf77 said:
The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
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The phone will charge and discharge the extra 150mAh but the correct capacity will not be reported by software.
Anyway 2850 vs 3000 is a little change, and if the battery quality is lower than HTC original battery maybe you'll not see any difference or maybe the battery will hold shorter.
znarf77 said:
The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
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From what i've seen on the Galaxy Gear S forums, somebody fitted a bigger battery inside and it worked just fine.
And his watch now lasts a few more days.
Anyway, for 150mAh more is simply not worth the risk.

Changing battery capacity

hellou guys. wanted to ask a question about battery, cause somewhere on internet i saw that battery capacity info is saved in kernel.
ive replaced stock battery 3430mah with a battery for 6200mah in google pixel 3xl. But in any battery info program and in AIDA64 it shows the same 3430 just like before replacement.
so the question is, do anyone knows how to change phone info about battery capacity?
Probably the capacity of that battery is wrong.maybe is the same or lower.and as far as I know the kernel has to be updated to the correct capacity if it's not a fake one that you buy.
vasiliouv84 said:
Probably the capacity of that battery is wrong.maybe is the same or lower.and as far as I know the kernel has to be updated to the correct capacity if it's not a fake one that you buy.
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ive monitored im getting charge counter more than 3430 sometimes, so i can get higher than 3430. but it cant cause of limitations of charging(it hits 100% and charging just stops)
so i dont think its fake
Battery charge is estimated through output voltage, some newer phones might have smart baterries but they are also measuring current and charging power to estimate life time. What apps and phone tells you is actually capacity propotional to voltage level. Putting a double capacity battery seems fake because of physical restrictions, again charge capacity reporting is based on kernel and you had to modifiy everytime you apply an update.
So why bother, as long as you have 8-10 sot with normal daily usage ? But are you really getting that sot's ?

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