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I went to sleep last night leaving the phone to charge with the wall charger. This morning the phone only had a 71% charge and was ultra-hot. These lithium batteries don't like high temperatures.
Anyone else had these high charge temperatures?
It seems faulty ...
I did couple of times charging overnight, and so far so good ... always came back with 100% and cold.
i noticed that if i leave the phone to charge battery down on my leather couch it heats up but on my glass table it is fine think it to do with heat distrabution.
so to save any problems i bought a desk dock charger and never heated up since
Do you have a link to the desk dock you bought?
I was quite disappointed that the Desire couldn't use the Nexus One's stand so I'm interested in the alternatives.
Mine gets very hot when charging from the USB on my computer (and it charges veeeeeery slowly), but using the wall charger it charges fast and stays cool to the touch...
I an charging with the wall charger as we speak with phone on and from 6% and though the phone is very slighty warm it's definately not hot.
Maybe you didn't put the usb in properly and had a bad connection?
Was wifi on?? That affects heat. Any running apps??
Charging with the wall charger normally charges my phone from 10% to 100% in little over an hour while staying cool. I never do anything special to stop apps, last night nothing special was running (no movies or music or heavy cpu stuff).
The heat was located at the lower side of the phone. Under the battery lies the cpu (and gpu) and they were radiating the heat in my opinion, not the battery itself.
Hey guys, so it has been 3 days since I bought my note 2 and I've noticed today that my phone is kind of heating up while it's charging on the wall charger. I can feel the back side quite hot with a case on but the screen seems alright. Also the charger gets much more hotter than the phone. As I noticed that I just unplugged my note 2 charger and took out my dad's HTC one V charger and charged with that. The phone was charging fine but I also noticed the charger getting hot. So my question is that is it normal? The phone heating up as well as the charger? Also if I charge it with the HTC one V charger is it fine? I haven't noted the phone's temperature but I could do that if anyone wants to know.
Thanks a lot!
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If your battery level is low when you start charging, it will attempt to draw a much current as possible, up to a maximum of 2 amp from the stock charger so it will get hot. The reason it does not get hot with the other charger is probably because the other charger can only output 1 amp maximum.
aquaholik said:
If your battery level is low when you start charging, it will attempt to draw a much current as possible, up to a maximum of 2 amp from the stock charger so it will get hot. The reason it does not get hot with the other charger is probably because the other charger can only output 1 amp maximum.
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Thanks for the reply! And I guess it's that then. So you're telling me that I shouldn't worry if it's getting hot while charging, right?
Test it. When phone is 60-80% charge it and sees if it warms up. My S2 warms up quickly and so does the charger if I let it drop to below 20% and start charging. So does my Lenovo Thinkpad's charger if I charge when battery level is low. The device and smart charger is pretty smart these days and varies the current and amp draw depending on the status of charge.
If you are not in a hurry, it might be better just to stick with the 1 amp charger for overnight charging. For quick charge or quick fill up when you don't have time, use the stock 2 amp charger.
the phone also has a failsafe, my og galaxy s used to get so hot in the car it would shut itself down
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Hi,
Is it possible to turn off the dash charge? 5T is charged only overnight cause it can last the whole day anyway.
PS: I can turn off Fash Charge in my Samsung Note. So it saves battery if I charge only overnight and don't need fast charge feature.
There is no stock option for this. Maybe a custom kernel can support it or a custom kernel that doesn't support it at all would also be a possibility in theory.
I would suggest using a normal power adapter instead of the Dash charging one. Even a normal USB C cable prevents Dash charging as it can only be used with OnePlus' own cable. So maybe get a cheap USB C cable and use that?
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
Why would you want to do this? The OnePlus dash charger works differently from other chargers in that it holds the heat in the charging block. If you use a standard adapter you would transfer the heat to the phone while charging. I would NOT recommend doing this.
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I use an Anker IQ 6-port Charger with a couple of fairly good quality cables.
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge, even if the heat is absorbed by the DASH charger block. IQ Charge adapts itself with the needs of the device connected.
And my unit stays cool if I touch it while its charging.
Charge however you want. But for me, dash charger while getting ready in the morning or when you have a free half hour. Forget about charging overnight. I don't know your usage but for me, this works. The phone just sits on my nightstand without connecting overnight and I lose a very minimal battery amount.
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https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge. I'll just leave this here.
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That's why we can choose
Just not in a software way.
I choose to use wireless charging using a receiver.
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DragonMessor said:
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
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It's fine at even less than 1 amp. We have two 5Ts in the house and charge them at night at 0.35 - 0.45 amp.
I saw the dash reduce Ampare when pass above 80%.
(When not rush I use official iPhone 1Amp charger.)
Use 5V/2A standard charger to standard usb type c.
Oneplus 5t = 5V/4A
Quick Charge = 9V/2A
Dash n QC have more power!
I'm using an old 1A Samsung power adapter and dash charge cable and in addition I also use Battery Charge Limit app to limit charging the battery to 80%.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-battery-charge-limit-t3557002
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I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
SilverSurger said:
No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Your informations are not correct.
Dash (or VOOC, which is the very same technology since OnePlus is an Oppo brand) uses high current fast charging instead of high voltage charging (QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 uses high voltage) and the circuit that produces heat in phones that are not Dash/VOOC compliant is inside the phone, while in Dash/VOOC is inside the charger.
Oppo and OnePlush themselves have acknowledged that it makes SAFE to use the phone while it is quickcharging, NOT that the battery is not getting damaged by the use of a fast charging method, even if it charges at a lower voltage and higher current.
The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Just because they moved a bunch of the power regulation stuff to the charger doesn't mean the battery doesn't still get warmer. If you push 4 amps of current into it, it will heat up more so than when it receives, 1 amp.
Now you have me curious though, I guess I'll have to pay close attention to the battery temp next time I charge my battery. I've never used the dash charger, but perhaps I'll have to get it out of the box, and test with it as well just to see what kind of temps I see with a more powerful charger as well. I'm curious to see how much temperature difference there is.
I know on my Nexus 5X my phone always lasted long on a single charge when slow charged (0.35 amps), vs using the factory 3 amp charger.
Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
Squabl said:
I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
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That would be a good idea to do. Although the best is to just Dash charge in short 30 minute bursts when you can.
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Your informations are not correct.
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The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
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How does it imply that? Heat is the only factor. Phone is not getting hot(ter than slowly charging) when charging.
What is the truth? With the rapid charging the battery deteriorates faster or better a slower charging?
Hi, I have Samsung Galaxy S20+ G985F/DS (Exynos). Few weeks ago I get a new company car, which has wireless Smartlink+ for android auto and apple car play. I was used to use cable, but few days ago I decided to bought wireless charger (Baseus Cobble 15W) to my car. Since then I have problem with overheating my phone when I am using wireless android auto and wirelessly charging it. I am using Spotify and Waze together and at same time I am charging it with wireless charger, but after few minutes (usually 5-10 minutes) it disconnets with error that my phone is too hot and it will continue charging after it will be colder. When I try to take a phone its damn hot. Is this normal behaviour or my phone is broken?
Running the battery hot will cause premature aging fast; stop doing it.
Software may be using a lot of cpu cycles; wayward apk(s).
Correct this if so.
It's not a good idea to charge and use the phone.
Get a fast charger for the car; you get about 2% per minute with a 25 watt one in fast charging mode between 40-65%.
A 25% charge should last 2 hours.
Li's love frequent partial midrange charge cycles and will get hundreds to thousands more full charge cycles when used like this. Partial fast charging does no harm as long as you keep the temp in the 80-99F range.
Try to avoid charging when under 80F and especially if near or below freezing temperatures.
Been using my 10+ like that for over a year, the battery is in very good condition to spite near all day use.
blackhawk said:
Running the battery hot will cause premature aging fast; stop doing it.
Software may be using a lot of cpu cycles; wayward apk(s).
Correct this if so.
It's not a good idea to charge and use the phone.
Get a fast charger for the car; you get about 2% per minute with a 25 watt one in fast charging mode between 40-65%.
A 25% charge should last 2 hours.
Li's love frequent partial midrange charge cycles and will get hundreds to thousands more full charge cycles when used like this. Partial fast charging does no harm as long as you keep the temp in the 80-99F range.
Try to avoid charging when under 80F and especially if near or below freezing temperatures.
Been using my 10+ like that for over a year, the battery is in very good condition to spite near all day use.
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Well thank you for your answer, but I don't understand you well. Your post is very confusing. But from what I understand, you simply tell me, that I must buy normal wire charger and I must stop using wireless charger because using it is not good? But that is not answer that i want. Because I don't want to plug cable to phone, because when I have wireless android auto in my car, its useless. For example my colleague have car with built in wireless charger. And from what you told me, he can't use this built in charger because its bad?
You have two issues.
App(s) that are using excessive battery.
Charging while using.
Both are best avoided and both drive up the temperature.
Of course you can do what you want but battery longevity may take a hit in doing so.
Karma Firewall is useful for finding unnecessary bandwidth hogs and some of the battery hogs. Start with that.
All wireless chargers make phone hot. Even if you use it at home and no aps are open.
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All wireless chargers make phone hot. Even if you use it at home and no aps are open.
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Excellent point.
A damp rag can be used to reduce the temp.
Unless the charge port is broken wireless charging just doesn't seem like a good modility.
Even at high frequency and optimum primary/secondary winding gapping air core transformers are notoriously inefficient.
These batteries are power hungry critters...
Man, I know what you all are saying but imagine covering your phone with a damp rag when changing, imma die of laughter if I see that anywhere. I know it's gonna work but it's going to be funny af
Mine did the same thing, it was 5 days old when I saw it the first time. If you insist using your phone and charging it wirelessly disable the fast wireless charging option from the settings and you are going to be good to go, but don't expect the phone to charge that much, maybe 2% in 5min, something like that probably. It will not overheat, tested it myself. Be careful, if it continues to overheat even with fast wireless charging option disabled stop using the charger when using your phone. I have a suspicion I burned my coil like that, it only took 5 or so times where my phone said that it can't continue charging because too hot. I hope that wasn't the case.
Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
I'll have to pay more attention to the charging speed on my P6P and let you know what I experience. I try to never use fast charging, never charge overnight, try not to let the battery go below 25% and don't charge past 75%. That 50% range lasts me about 24 hours, but I might use my phone less than you.
I had no complaints about the charging speed on Android 12.
Edit: I'm happy with how much my phone has charged in the last 45 minutes, given that I don't use fast charge methods.
I am having the same issue. Installed 13 stable on my 6 pro. My battery got down to 4% so I plugged it in. I continued to watch YouTube and after an hour it was only up to 8%. Something is def wrong. The battery sucked before but now it's even worse
Updated yesterday and seems ive now got an issue with wireless charging. My phone stopped charging at 81% overnight. Its very intermittent whether it starts charging now on the two wireless chargers i have and seems to stop randomly, not getting to 100%. Charges fine using a cable.
Have the same problem since upgrading to android 13.
According to AccuBattery is the charge current around 900 mA. Way too slow and really annoying!
Didn't have the problem with android 12.
I'm using an Anker Power Port III which can charge with up to 25W. It's the same with other cables and charging devices.
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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I think you didn't get my point. I did a comparison between android 12 and android 13. Since the charging speed is reduced dramatically it doesn't matter which cables or charging devices I use unless they are the same.
So we don't discuss absolute charging times here but the fact that by upgrading the OS of our Pixel 6 Pro the charging behaviour changed ceteris paribus.
I charge slowly over night, the charger i use normally charges at 1.5A max, now on A13 it is charging at 800mA
I have ESR magsafe ring. My car charger is working for about 2 minutes and stops. Battery temperature reach 43°C within 2-3 minutes since I upgraded to android 13.
All of the magsafe accessories stopped working. All of the normal QI chargers stopped working. I absolutely hate this phone. First 3 months - no reception in buildings. Still no 5G in my country even with root and signal guru. Now it's not charging wirelessly and only slow charing with cable.
My new guess is it is due to the overheating problem with the update to Android 13.
A lot of people complain about the high temperature. Therefore the phone reduces the charging speed.
Maybe that's also the reason for the problem with the wireless charging. too much heat = no wireless charging. Just guessing...
ATM I rebooted my phone to safe mode. Let's see if this helps.
Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
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Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
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Doubt this but I will try it and report back
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
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well we know for one you dont need that
just a cable capable of the current and a charger that hits PPF standards
and even with/without official chargers it will only peak 21w
im using a £5 Gan charger and a USlion 2M long magnetic 60w cable that can do data aswell and it is doing 20w peak for me on A13 which is what it did on A12 aswell. Both which i bought before the official charger came out
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Doubt this but I will try it and report back
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Nope, still charging like a piece of [crap, so,] not sure what Google did with A13 , I use official charger for fast charge, considerably slower than on A12
But yeah 3rd party Chinese charge and magnetic cable no issues. Charging issues are not a13 related it will be some defining factor like an app or hardware
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Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
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I am having the same problem
I updated my pixel 5a to 13 stable. It's charging speed decreased a lot . Firstly it took around 1hr 50 min to get 100 now it's lot
more than 3hr. Gets lot of heating while charging.
Sometime it shows "6 hr to full charge" even at (30-40) battery level, and that's really bad .
After 13 Device is heating ( not just warm) so much even in normal uses (No gaming).
My own testing found out as long as battery reach 41 degree C, the P6P will charge at 3.5W only... (While still displaying fast charging). It you put the phone in front of air conditioner vent to lower the temperature to 25 degrees C, then it charging at full 20W.
The P6P easily get into battery y 41 degrees C by just charging at room temperature higher then 32 degrees C. On A12 its pretty difficult to get this... Somehow A13 drive the CPU while charging which I suspect affect the heat dispatching. I used a charging wire with watterage display so its easily see how P6P limiting the charging wattage with temperature.
It was considerably slower for me too. I was in Spain, coming from UK, so had to use adapter. I thought it's the case, but it has also been something with temperatures, I couldn't backup the pictures because the system showed me it's too hot. I hope that was the issue.
I just swith to Android 13 there are ossue with battery . please fix it .you guys are doing great work