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So I just ordered this charger and it charged my phone from 4% to %100 percent in exactly 3 hours!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051ZJA64/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Wow, what a great improvement over stock which takes 6+ hours. This makes me believe, that even though the stock output is rated at 1000ma and this charger's output is only rated 700ma that this charges works correctly!
If you have a 1800mah battery and you charge it at a rate of .7A, it should take it exactly 2.57 hours to charge, (1800/700). With stock it should take less, because 1800/1000 = 1.8 hours, but it takes 6+ hours to fully charge! Something is f'ed up with the stock charger or phone's software...
Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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At first my charging was extremely slow but now it'll charge from 2 to 100 in under three hours
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I use the Palm charger from my TouchPad. Will go from dead to fully charged in about an hour and a half.
What's you TouchPad charger's output in mah? I think I might have to splice into a spare USB cable and check how much current is actually used by phone when on stock charger...pretty sure it is nowhere close to 1000mah.
2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
I have my original charger from my Evo 4g and have noticed that it charges my phone a lot faster then the stock one that came with the phone. :-( weird
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sfhub said:
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
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That sounds about right! I'll see if I can test this with my AMP meter tonight and tell you all for sure on stock vs new samsung charger that I've got.
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2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
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Yeah, at 2000mah it should charge in less than one hour...I would say your actual charge current to be around 1200mah...
i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
Seems like i must have gotten lucky as a ton of people are having problems with their phone or chargers.
I just charged my battery from 0 to 100% off the stock charger in 2 and a half hours and i also havent gotten any of the dodgy input problems using the phone while charging.
I went back and took a longer look at the battery history when charging. When starting the charge at 65% it starts off around 828mA, then 540mA, then 360mA, so it looks like (as expected) the phone knows how much current to pull to charge the battery safely and it adjusts based on how full the battery is. Not saying it does this for the charger included with your phone, but that is the behavior for the charger included with this phone.
These are all estimates provided by Battery Monitor Widget because there is no real-time mA current meter in this phone (according to the author)
Ordered one of these. Stock charger takes a lifetime to charge the phone.
My GF got Nexus S 4G and it's stock charger also takes 6+ hours to charge, so there's something wrong with the chargers I guess...
The pins on this charger must me different than the stock charger. Just because the stock charger is rated up to 1Ah doesn't meant the phone or batteries circuitry allows that much output. The resistance and length of the USB pins on the cable are what determines the output of the charger. Simply using a different USB cable with the stock charger will get you faster charge times.
Using a 2Ah charger will get you nowhere, the circuitry doesn't allow that strong of a current. Just a bit of an FYI. Save your money and save your phone, use a different USB cable.
Also, how is the charge time holding up? I doubt you're getting a saturated charge with that charger.
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i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
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Ive dealt with 1,2, and 3 cell lipos ranging from 150mah to 5000mah, and every one of them either say to be (or ive been told its recommended to do so) charged at 1C. so a 500mah battery should be charged at .5A, 1000mah at 1A, 5000mah at 5A, etc...
my lipo charger displays a bunch of info as the battery charges and it definitely drops the current as the battery gets closer to being fully charged. if its the same with li-on then I would imagine that .18A should be the most you would charge this battery, but Id rather it take a long time because unless things have changed recently, doesnt the slower you charge the battery prolong its life cycle as well as extend how long it lasts each charge? I only charge mine at night when I am sleeping so who cares if it takes longer than an hour. if I get into an emergency situation I have the cig lighter charger and in the worst case I even have one of those crank flashlights I can use to charge the phone in the event my car battery shorted out or something...
I just got a t-mobile version of the S4 and I'm loving it, but I noticed it is very very slow to charge.
Aside from light to medium usage i didn't touch it much between last night and today. I had it plugged in and charging via USB, but it maybe charged about 40-45% in 6+ hours. My old phone (LG G2X) never took this long to charge.
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This was using the Stock T-mobile Rom
I have since rooted and installed CM10 nightly on the phone, It appears to suffer the same issue
Between 9:27 to 10:00 it went from 67% to %74, My LG went from %39 -%56 in about 20 minutes. By those quick number it will take 7 hours to charge the S4 while only 3 to fully charge the g2x
Is this normal? is there anything i can do to fix/test or alleviate this?
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I had it plugged in and charging via USB,
Is this normal? is there anything i can do to fix/test or alleviate this?
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The question for you is the source? If you plugged it into your compy, it will take forever as standard compy USB ports (USB 2.0) provide only about 500 mA. The stock S4 charger is 2 Amps.
The fix, plug the phone into the wall using your stock charger. If it is still slow, it is probably your battery. Good luck.
Make sure to use the charger that it came with. Ever since I started using the stock charger my battery charges fast. Also it could be your plug so test it with another just in case.
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Yup it was the charger, I have chargers pretty much where ever i go so i just used those. With the stock one it works great but i ran into another issue. I plugged it in and it was taking a really long time to charge with the stock charger, something like 3% in 30 minutes. I had to unplug and plug in the cable again and it charged normally.
Is this something I should worry about?
It could be possible that the cable was not properly seated in the phone, or the charger end was not properly seated in the wall cube. I wouldn't lose sleep over it unless it happens often. Could be a phone problem, but sounds like a one off to me.
Yea my lady like to use my charger with her HTC phone because it "charges faster". The S4 stock charger has the highest amp rating and provides juice at the highest rate to any device. :good:
icewolf293 said:
I just got a t-mobile version of the S4 and I'm loving it, but I noticed it is very very slow to charge.
Aside from light to medium usage i didn't touch it much between last night and today. I had it plugged in and charging via USB, but it maybe charged about 40-45% in 6+ hours. My old phone (LG G2X) never took this long to charge.
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This was using the Stock T-mobile Rom
I have since rooted and installed CM10 nightly on the phone, It appears to suffer the same issue
Between 9:27 to 10:00 it went from 67% to %74, My LG went from %39 -%56 in about 20 minutes. By those quick number it will take 7 hours to charge the S4 while only 3 to fully charge the g2x
Is this normal? is there anything i can do to fix/test or alleviate this?
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There are a few factors here.....
1. The charger itself. The original Samsung is a 2A charger. If you use a different one (most are only 1A) it will take twice as long to charge.
2. The USB Cable. Believe it or not, not all cables are the same. With the standard charger and cable you will be able to charge @ 1900mA. Less then 2 hours to fully charge a completely dead battery. But.... plugging some USB cables into the standard charger will limit the charge down to just 600mA.... taking 3x_ longer to charge.
3. The other is the kernel. If you're using a newer custom kernel Samsung has limited to a max of 1200mA with the screen on & full 1900mA with the screen off.
Lastly, you can download an app on the playstore called Galaxy Charging Current. This will show you the charging rate should you want to test your setup.
dannyben said:
There are a few factors here.....
2. The USB Cable. Believe it or not, not all cables are the same. With the standard charger and cable you will be able to charge @ 1900mA. Less then 2 hours to fully charge a completely dead battery. But.... plugging some USB cables into the standard charger will limit the charge down to just 600mA.... taking 3x_ longer to charge..
Lastly, you can download an app on the playstore called Galaxy Charging Current. This will show you the charging rate should you want to test your setup.
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This man speaks the truth. I use CurrentWidget and set to manual update. Whenever I'm testing cables/chargers, I plug in a known good cable (charges at 1900) to see what the charger is putting out. I do the same with a known good charger (2A - iPad and S4) and test the cables
Anyone else notice that with the supplied charger charging ins't what it should be. My iPhone 5 charged almost twice as fast as this phone. I find it kind of annoying. I did order one of these chargers hoping that solves the issue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The supplied charger is charging rapidly no doubt.
I guess not less than 1% per minute - particularly when below 70%..
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The supplied charger is charging rapidly no doubt.
I guess not less than 1% per minute - particularly when below 70%..
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No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
I'm having literally no issues with charging from dead to 25% in about 15 minutes. 2 hours to 100% im very happy with the speed of charging and this is using my m8 charger as the m9 one is still sealed in box.
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MattMJB0188 said:
No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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I went with this one and it working like a champ, 30% to 100% in 50 min
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QTJZ3D0/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been using the GS4 charger, with a high output cable. The Samsung charger is 1.5A where the HTC m8/m9 charger is 1.0A
the supplied charger is definitely giving 1.5 amps to mine. charges up pretty quick. with a quickcharge 2.0 charger it's crazy fast to charge.
One thing to note is it will take a faster charge the lower the battery level is, which means more heat. if you're also gaming with it, you could be bumping against the battery charging cutoff temperature. I only ever saw this happen on my Tegra HOX+. IIRC HTC has the notification LED blink in alternating green and orange/red when this happens. I'm guessing you would have mentioned temperature in the OP if this was the case, but I figured I'd bring it up.
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The Samsung charger is 1.5A where the HTC m8/m9 charger is 1.0A
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Just spread your arm, pick whether HTC M8 or M9 charger, and read upon it.. 8)
Both M8 and M9 chargers are - 1.5 Ampere.. furthermore both handhelds are charging fast - otherwise if the cable is a problem..
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Just spread your arm, pick whether HTC M8 or M9 charger, and read upon it.. 8)
Both M8 and M9 chargers are - 1.5 Ampere..
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Sorry, meant it was 1.5a for HTC and 2.0a for the Samsung one. Didn't have them on hand to check.
iPhone 5 battery is 1,440 mAh... M9 battery is 2,840 mAh. 50% charge of Iphone battery doesn't equal 50% charge of M9 battery, in terms of charge time.
I believe the rate of charging to decrease while you use it to prevent the phone from overheating. (My M8 does this as well)
My stock charger is fast, and my quick charge 2.0 is crazy fast.
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No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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If you are using your phone and charging at the same time, it will take longer to charge....
as someone who had a nexus 6 with turbo charging. this is bad. charging is so slow.
joetang97 said:
If you are using your phone and charging at the same time, it will take longer to charge....
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I got a qualcomm 2.0 charger and now its super fast.
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I got a qualcomm 2.0 charger and now its super fast.
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Yeah, this. I got an HTC Rapid Charger 2.0 for it just to be sure since I knew with certainty it's Quick Charge 2.0. In retrospect perhaps not the best move considering I'm essentially incentivising HTC for not including one in the box from the get go, but whatever.
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No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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Yup i got the same issue gonna take me 6-11hrs to charge and its very slow charging
I had a similar problem to OP. The second night I had my phone I plugged it in at 11 pm with about 5% battery left and went to bed. At 5:15 the next morning (6 hours later) it was only at 85%. I can't tell if there's still a problem or I just think there is because I'm paranoid about it now. I haven't run my battery down that low since, and looking at the charge current with Ampere seems somewhat inconclusive. I may have to run it down and then keep an eye on it while charging to see what's going on.
Something IS wrong with SOME M9 phones (I think)
I have one of the "bad" ones. Mine takes hours and hours to charge, whether on the cable and plug that came in the box, or on any others that I have around - some I know are 2 Amps. I think there is something seriously wrong with some of these phones, based on what I am reading in this thread, and on my own example. I have had my M9 for just a few days.
I'd like to post a follow up to this thread after having the phone for a couple of weeks now.
I've had several occurrences where my phone didn't fully charge overnight. The worst was a few days ago, I plugged it in at 5% and the next morning (6-8 hours) it was at 1%, it actually lost charge. I noticed before unplugging it so I looked at the history in Battery Widget Reborn and it showed the battery level just slowly dropped from 5% to 1% without any jumps or dips. The battery icon at the top of the screen showed it was charging but it died at that point so I didn't get a chance to open Ampere.
I think it's the charger (and/or the cable) that came with the phone. I've tried several other chargers that have all worked reliably:
- The QuickCharge 2.0 charger that came with my wife's S6 charges my phone really fast.
- I have a Kmashi external battery that also seems to charge it relatively quickly.
- Two older chargers that are several years old (both rated 5 volts at 0.7 amps) charge it from around 30% to full in 3-5 hours.
At first I thought it might have been a wakelock problem, but the battery has been dropping so slowly when the phone is just sitting in my pocket that I'm confident now that it's not wakelocks. I don't know if HTC is likely to send a replacement, but I'm going to stop into the Verizon store that I got the phone from to see if they'll replace it.
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My phone is also odd when charging.
Half of the time it takes 6 hours or more to charge. If I look at GSAM battery monitor it shows a charge current of around 350mA. If I then unplug the charger and reconnect after 15 seconds I get over 1300mA charging current, most of the time. (It takes GSAM a while to show an accurate reading). Occasionally it will take a few tries to get it right. Once I get a good reading over 1300mA the phone will charge in 1.5 hours like it should.
Something very buggy about this phone's charging circuit. I get the same behaviour with all chargers and cables, even my battery bank.
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Anyone else notice that with the supplied charger charging ins't what it should be. My iPhone 5 charged almost twice as fast as this phone. I find it kind of annoying. I did order one of these chargers hoping that solves the issue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I use a 2A tablet charger from my hp touchpad. Charges from dead to 100% in 45 minutes.
I just bought an use xl. The oem accesories were never used seems he was charging the pixel mostly in his car. Now im using the official oem charger and cable and heat up the phone like crazy. It does say rapid charging but even the time went up to 3 hour estimated time to fully charge which is crazy. Now using a galaxy s7 edge dock charge and some spare usb c cable i had the phone does not heat up,. Charge in quick charge and it take like an hour and 20 minute to fully charge..... Im i missing something here?
Charging time left is not static it changes with temperature. If your phone is already reached 42 45 degrees which generally correct it slows down charging. And also it heats up if you are using your phone during fast charging intervals which is first 20 min. Also even when you don't use it, it heats up because of wake locks (charging). Also i realize a hot climate is a factor. For oem charger it can reach 3 amps so it is normal for heating and most other chargers supply less so it does not heat up. Soo it is like a design problem you can charge your phone super fast but it will heat up so charging speed will vary but i think in the end it will still quick enough.
Why do you think they advertise quick burst charge instead of quick full charge ?
Hi,
Is it possible to turn off the dash charge? 5T is charged only overnight cause it can last the whole day anyway.
PS: I can turn off Fash Charge in my Samsung Note. So it saves battery if I charge only overnight and don't need fast charge feature.
There is no stock option for this. Maybe a custom kernel can support it or a custom kernel that doesn't support it at all would also be a possibility in theory.
I would suggest using a normal power adapter instead of the Dash charging one. Even a normal USB C cable prevents Dash charging as it can only be used with OnePlus' own cable. So maybe get a cheap USB C cable and use that?
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
Why would you want to do this? The OnePlus dash charger works differently from other chargers in that it holds the heat in the charging block. If you use a standard adapter you would transfer the heat to the phone while charging. I would NOT recommend doing this.
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I use an Anker IQ 6-port Charger with a couple of fairly good quality cables.
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge, even if the heat is absorbed by the DASH charger block. IQ Charge adapts itself with the needs of the device connected.
And my unit stays cool if I touch it while its charging.
Charge however you want. But for me, dash charger while getting ready in the morning or when you have a free half hour. Forget about charging overnight. I don't know your usage but for me, this works. The phone just sits on my nightstand without connecting overnight and I lose a very minimal battery amount.
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https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge. I'll just leave this here.
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That's why we can choose
Just not in a software way.
I choose to use wireless charging using a receiver.
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DragonMessor said:
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
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It's fine at even less than 1 amp. We have two 5Ts in the house and charge them at night at 0.35 - 0.45 amp.
I saw the dash reduce Ampare when pass above 80%.
(When not rush I use official iPhone 1Amp charger.)
Use 5V/2A standard charger to standard usb type c.
Oneplus 5t = 5V/4A
Quick Charge = 9V/2A
Dash n QC have more power!
I'm using an old 1A Samsung power adapter and dash charge cable and in addition I also use Battery Charge Limit app to limit charging the battery to 80%.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-battery-charge-limit-t3557002
Headbanger1982 said:
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
SilverSurger said:
No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Your informations are not correct.
Dash (or VOOC, which is the very same technology since OnePlus is an Oppo brand) uses high current fast charging instead of high voltage charging (QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 uses high voltage) and the circuit that produces heat in phones that are not Dash/VOOC compliant is inside the phone, while in Dash/VOOC is inside the charger.
Oppo and OnePlush themselves have acknowledged that it makes SAFE to use the phone while it is quickcharging, NOT that the battery is not getting damaged by the use of a fast charging method, even if it charges at a lower voltage and higher current.
The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Just because they moved a bunch of the power regulation stuff to the charger doesn't mean the battery doesn't still get warmer. If you push 4 amps of current into it, it will heat up more so than when it receives, 1 amp.
Now you have me curious though, I guess I'll have to pay close attention to the battery temp next time I charge my battery. I've never used the dash charger, but perhaps I'll have to get it out of the box, and test with it as well just to see what kind of temps I see with a more powerful charger as well. I'm curious to see how much temperature difference there is.
I know on my Nexus 5X my phone always lasted long on a single charge when slow charged (0.35 amps), vs using the factory 3 amp charger.
Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
Squabl said:
I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
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That would be a good idea to do. Although the best is to just Dash charge in short 30 minute bursts when you can.
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Your informations are not correct.
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The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
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How does it imply that? Heat is the only factor. Phone is not getting hot(ter than slowly charging) when charging.
What is the truth? With the rapid charging the battery deteriorates faster or better a slower charging?