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So recently I have been wondering if the way I charge my phone could negatively affect it. So I'm wondering when, and how you guys charge your phones?
I personally drain it as much as I can (to dead if possible), then plug it into my wall charge and leave it plugged in overnight. (Since I kill it right before I go to bed)
Nah, just charge whenever you need to. I would avoid completely draining it as that can damage lithium batteries.
At night. Wall charger.
No reason to be worried about negatively affecting your phone by charing it a certain way. It's going to be okay .
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Nah, just charge whenever you need to. I would avoid completely draining it as that can damage lithium batteries.
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He is safe, this isn't a concern as there is internal regulation in the battery pack itself. It cuts out output to prevent completely draining.
Darunion said:
He is safe, this isn't a concern as there is internal regulation in the battery pack itself. It cuts out output to prevent completely draining.
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Might I add I have the extended 2100mA battery.
I charge when needed (keep a charger nearby at all times) and am only concerned with keeping the battery from dying and leaving it at full charge for more than a couple of hours. Most of the time this results in once a day charging before bedtime but if I'm downloading or tethering all day (recently lost my wifi connection) then I'm looking at 2-4 charges a day. Kinda lame but eh, electricity is cheap.
I charge it when it needs to be charged.
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drake90001 said:
So recently I have been wondering if the way I charge my phone could negatively affect it. So I'm wondering when, and how you guys charge your phones?
I personally drain it as much as I can (to dead if possible), then plug it into my wall charge and leave it plugged in overnight. (Since I kill it right before I go to bed)
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Your practice is bad. The deeper you discharge a battery, the shorter its overall battery life will be. However, it's also not good to keep topping it up, thereby keeping the batter in a perpetual high voltage state. Just use it normally, and charge it at the end of the day.
Source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
I hear waiting till level gets to 40% to charge is suggested. Keeps the battery stuff moving properly. Think I read it on CNet
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Meh I just charge it whenever and haven't noticed a bad effect on it yet. I put it in and out of car dock multiple times a day. Always charge it at night when sleeping. And if I'm at home all day using nit a lot I might charge it an extra time if I wasn't getting topped off in car dock.
I charge my phone at night while I sleep. Oft times it's dead from being charged he preceding night.
Another question. How is cell service in the majority of users areas?
I have no service at all for at least half the day (school and home). At work I have good service, and I'm only ever in other good service areas for no more than two hours. I finish off the day with an average screen on time of one hour and thirty minutes.
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infazzdar said:
I charge my phone at night while I sleep. Oft times it's dead from being charged he preceding night.
Another question. How is cell service in the majority of users areas?
I have no service at all for at least half the day (school and home). At work I have good service, and I'm only ever in other good service areas for no more than two hours. I finish off the day with an average screen on time of one hour and thirty minutes.
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My phone gets about -90dBm on LTE near Chicagoland area at home. At school, my signal drops quite a bit, and I get about 2 bars (No idea what dBm, never checked.) but overall, I usually have great signal and speeds.
I also average about 11 hours of just normal use (for me, checking it quite a bit, playing games and listening to music)
I rarely plug my phone into the wall outlet. I have the pogo pin dock so during the work week I have it sit on the dock all day and it is fully charged when I come home from work. So even with heavy usage at night, I never have to plug it into the wall whether that be after work or when I go to bed. The next day I just charge it back up at work.
The only time I run into battery issues is during the weekend. But since I have two batteries they normally can get me through the whole weekend without having to plug it in to the wall too much (again it depends on usage).
Really depends on the situation. If I need the phone next day and won't have access to charger for sure I'll charge overnight from USB port on one of my comps that is on 24/7. Usually I don't let the battery go below 20% before charging. I'm also always charging the phone when driving since use my GNex for listening to music with Spotify and always force the screen to stay on during those times. Don't want the battery to drain when driving due to having the screen on for long time.
Hey guys I'm often a lurker on here and don't post a whole lot but came across this article and found it interesting. Thought I'd share... Also, I like to leave my HTC ONE plugged in on my desk stand at work with the "Daydream" clock function running (basically using my phone as a desk clock). Do you think leaving it plugged in charging all day running this clock is doing any damage to my battery? It of course fills up and charges to 100% pretty quickly because I never really let it get below 80%. Below is my charging habit...
1. Charges all night at my bedside
2. Take it off the charger in the morning while getting ready for work and my drive
3. Get to work, plug it in for 6-7 hours running Daydream
4. Take it off the charger and go home... (off the charger for about 4-5 hours in the evening)
5. Go to bed, plug it in, and start all over again...
Oh and here's the article :lol:
http://gizmodo.com/going-from-all-the-way-full-to-all-the-way-empty-wont-h-618834847
How To Take Care of Your Smartphone Battery the Right Way
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Your smartphone is a minor miracle, a pocket-sized computer that can fulfill almost every whim. But none of its superpowers matter a bit if it runs out of juice. With removable batteries becoming more and more rare, you've got to take good care of the one you got. Fortunately, it's not to hard keep the lithium-ion powering your everything machine happy if you follow a few simple rules.
Obviously, the first rule for extending your battery life is not using up all your battery life playing candy crush and walking around with Wi-Fi and GPS enabled when you're not using either and really, really need your phone to last that extra hour. But aside from that, there are some basic rules for care and charging, and they're the simplest baseline for a healthy battery.
Top it off
You may vaguely recall hearing something about rechargeable batteries and the "memory effect." You know, that if you don't "teach" your rechargeable batteries their full potential by taking them from totally full to totally empty, they'll "forget" part of their capacity. Well forget all that. Right now. It's wrong.
To get the most out of a lithium-ion battery, you should try to keep it north of 50 percent as much as possible. For the most part going from all the way full to all the way empty won't help; in fact, it'll do a little damage if you do it too often. That said, it's smart to do one full discharge about once a month for "calibration," but don't do it all the time. Running the whole gamut on a regular basis won't make your battery explode or anything, but it will shorten its lifespan.
So if you're really particular about optimizing your battery's life, you should try to go from around 40 percent to around 80 percent in one go, and then back down whenever possible. A bunch of tiny charges isn't as bad as going from 100 down to zero all the time, but it's not optimal either.
Keep it cool
It's easy to worry about bad charging habits thanks to the training we've had from old rechargeable batteries, but lithium-ion batteries have a worse enemy: heat. Your smartphone's battery will degrade much much faster when it's hot, regardless of whether it's being used or just sitting around doing nothing.
At an average temperature of 32 degrees fahrenheit, a lithium-ion battery will lose six percent of its maximum capacity per year. At 77 degrees, that number jumps to 20 percent, and at 104 degrees it's a whopping 35. Sure, it's not exactly practical (or sane) to keep your phone in the fridge, but it's worth going out of your way to prevent long stays in hot cars and the like.
Avoid wireless charging
Wireless charging is can be incredibly convenient if your phone can do it, but it's not without its disadvantages. The inductive, wireless chargers out there today have this nasty habit of generating a fair bit of waste heat. And while wasted energy is just a bummer in general, that heat will also toast your battery in the process. That's no bueno. It's a little less convenient, but standard plug-in charging is going to keep your battery in better shape, especially if you're some place warm to begin with.
Never go to zero
Obviously, using your battery is going to make it degrade. But it's going to slowly die even if you just leave that iPad in the closet for a bit. There's a trick to minimizing that inevitable aging though: leave it a little bit of juice.
If you're going to be shelving any lithium-ion battery for a long time, try to leave it with at least 40 percent battery power to tide it over. Lithium-ion batteries don't hemmorage power at 30 percent a month like nickel-metal-hydride batteries do; they'll lose maybe five to ten percent of their charge each month.
And when lithium-ion batteries get too low—like, literally zero percent—they get seriously unstable, and dangerous to charge. To prevent explosion-type disasters if you do try to charge one, lithium-ion batteries have built-in self-destruct circuits that will disable (read: destroy) the battery for good, if it reaches rock bottom. And sure, that'll save you from a face full of battery-acid, but it'll also leave you short one battery.
Don't sweat it too much
It's easy to get protective of your battery, but it's also easy to get lazy. And that's fine, because as long as you're not a complete idiot, you'll be OK. Typically, a lithium-ion battery lasts for three to five years, and chances are you're going to want to swap out your gadgets sometime in that window anyway. The slight damage of a technically bad idea like leaving your phone plugged in all night every night, or using wireless charging, might be worth the convenience.
Still, it's pretty easy to keep your battery reasonably healthy just by avoiding particularly egregious torture like letting your phone discharge from full to zero every single day, or leaving it in a hot car all the time. And the next time you make it back home with power to spare, you'll thank yourself for it.
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I dont agree that your battery dosent like being or performs worse at a 100%. Or that it harms the battery in any way. I keep my phone plugged in as much as possible durring the day, and all night long. But i only use the wall charger that came with the phone, or a smart car charger made for my phone. Because as the article says, these chargers are smart enough to stop charging for awile after the phone has reached 100% to prevent over charging/heating. Cheap wall and car chargers dont have this feature and continuously provide a charge to the phone. Also charging using a usb port on a pc or other device does not provide this overgharge protection.
My last phones battery lasted for almost 3 1/2 years before needing to be replaced. Heres what i do.
Keep it charging as much as possible only with a "smart" charger.
Never let the batter drain all the way down. If it gets to 10% and i cant charge it at the moment, i turn it off.
Never let your device get too hot. Dont leave it in hot cars or sitting in the sun, etc.
Never "bump charge". That is just a way to trick a smart charger into overcharging your battery.
Also over clocking/volting your phone puts more strain on your battery than it was intended to take. It makes its temperatures rise higher, and the charge to deplete in a more rapid fassion. Both of which are bad for your battery.
These are just my opinions of course, but it seems to work out good for me. I think 3 1/2 years is a pretty acceptable life span.
never let it die
I have always left my phone's plugged in constantly and never an issue. Once my phone hits 100% it stops charging and then is very cool to the touch from then on.I heard phone's now has a failsafe that will stop charging and start running the phone off the charger and not battery.
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What's the best battery conservative rom?
Why do you think you should never fully drain it?
Every 30-40 days, you should fully drain your battery - until your phone automatically powers down - and then fully charge it - and allow it to stay on the charger for 30-40 minutes after it's 100%.
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Why do you think you should never fully drain it?
Every 30-40 days, you should fully drain your battery - until your phone automatically powers down - and then fully charge it - and allow it to stay on the charger for 30-40 minutes after it's 100%.
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Draining a lithium ion battery all the way can damage the cells causing irreversible damage to the battery. Read this
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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disconnecktie said:
Draining a lithium ion battery all the way can damage the cells causing irreversible damage to the battery. Read this
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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The battery management system in the phone does not allow the cells to go lower than the safe level. For Li-ion cells, that's somewhere around 2.7-3.0volts/cell.
If it did, there'd be not only a huge warranty liability, but also a safety one.
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The battery management system in the phone does not allow the cells to go lower than the safe level. For Li-ion cells, that's somewhere around 2.7-3.0volts/cell.
If it did, there'd be not only a huge warranty liability, but also a safety one.
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You can believe that if you want to but if you actually read that link you will understand. It puts a lot of strain on the cells to go that far down. There is a physical reaction inside your battery of growing and stretching created from the charge/discharge cycle. If you regularly drop the charge to nothing then it makes it harder for it to keep a charge over time. You're more than welcome to do your method of calibration but I'm a firm believer in keeping the battery healthy.
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You can believe that if you want to but if you actually read that link you will understand. It puts a lot of strain on the cells to go that far down. There is a physical reaction inside your battery of growing and stretching created from the charge/discharge cycle. If you regularly drop the charge to nothing then it makes it harder for it to keep a charge over time. You're more than welcome to do your method of calibration but I'm a firm believer in keeping the battery healthy.
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I didn't say regularly. I said every 30-40 days. I have a lot of experience with lithium cells - both manufacturing and selling.
Before getting the One, I regularly used my HiTec lithium charger on my thunderbolt battery to run a discharge cycle, and then balance/charge it slowly.
No one need be afraid of their phone getting below 10%. It isn't causing any damage.
Well i guess its all a matter of opinion. Me and my wifes first smart phones were the htc incredible. I would never let mine die and the battery lasted fir 3 1/2 years. My wife would let hers die once or twice a month, and it lasted for 14 months before it needed a new battery. Got on her about not letting it die after we replaced the battery, much to my surprise she listened, and the replacement lasted for another 2 1/2 years. Both of our batteries actually still work today just not used to much anymore.
I had the dinc2 and followed the same procedure he used and pretty much nuked a battery from doing that same procedure. In less than a year my battery was bad. To each their own but I still don't suggest running it all the way out.
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even anker, who is is probably the biggest portable battery manufacturer recommends not letting their products get below 25% because it can reduce the lifespan of the pack. They state that keeping it between 25-75% is ideal.
Interesting article, thanks for sharing OP.
I also leave my phone plugged in while sitting at my desk and let it charge up. Typically I plug into my laptop via usb while at work, once fully charged it shows 'fully charged' and switches the led status light to green.
I try to never let it die either but have to travel for work and do get very low on occasion, once I get down to 10% I typically just shut to phone off to preserve power while I am flying and avoid turning it back on again til I can get it on a charger.
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I'm new to this phone,so I'm not entirely sure how the battery life is ... but I heard a while ago that you get the best battery life out of phones when you only plug them in to charge when they are completely dead. I don't do it often enough to see a difference, but has anybody else done it?
You probably get a much more consistent charge while it is dead/powered off. The only problem there is does letting your phone die occasionally ruin your battery or not?
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danprichet said:
... I heard a while ago that you get the best battery life out of phones when you only plug them in to charge when they are completely dead. ...
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Did you not read the first message in this thread. wherein it says:
To get the most out of a lithium-ion battery, you should try to keep it north of 50 percent as much as possible.
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Never go to zero.
Alright, alright - I was merely saying I'd heard a theory stating otherwise.
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Did you not read the first message in this thread. wherein it says:
To get the most out of a lithium-ion battery, you should try to keep it north of 50 percent as much as possible.
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Never go to zero.
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My laptop, which is a Lenovo, has 2 settings. Best battery health and best battery life. Best health keeps the battery charged to between 50-60 percent and then stops the charge. Best life goes up to 100.
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Note 7 is my first foray into wireless charging. I figured it would be useful at work for me as I can spend random amounts of time away from my desk throughout the day so when at my desk I can drop it on the charger and then grab it when I need to go. I just wondered if thats bad for the battery?
I already did a full drain and then full charge from there and even that I'm not sure if it's still beneficial to do. But with a non removable battery I want to make sure I'm not doing more harm than good and shortening it's life by having it on and off thw wireless charger often during the day. Thanks.
Its not bad, its actually recommended. Keeping the battery as high as frequently as possible will help in the long run.
Using it while its charging isnt so good though.
imatts said:
Its not bad, its actually recommended. Keeping the battery as high as frequently as possible will help in the long run.
Using it while its charging isnt so good though.
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Recommended by whom? The magic dragon?
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it can slowly reduce the lifespan of your battery..
imatts said:
Its not bad, its actually recommended. Keeping the battery as high as frequently as possible will help in the long run.
Using it while its charging isnt so good though.
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From my research into battery life what you write is incorrect. There are other threads on this very subject where I precise my findings.
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Apparently keeping the battery between 50-80% is the ideal scenario. It's probably ok to change to 100 but leaving it on the charger once it's fully juiced makes the battery heat up too much which is bad for it.
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There has been research that suggests it is better to charge the battery from around 40%-to about 95%, never full.
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There has been research that suggests it is better to charge the battery from around 40%-to about 95%, never full.
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I looked at some of the research people have mentioned and it does seem that between 40 and 80% is the sweet spot on the Lithium Ion batteries. It says not to charge to 100%, but that the phone is smart enough to stop charging ones full to prevent overheating. But regardless I suppose leaving it plugged in overnight isn't the best idea.
But in my case it sounds like multiple charges throughout the day isn't bad on the battery as long as it keeps it in the 40-80% range? I can manage that, just wanted to make sure multiple small(5-10%) charges throughout the day wasn't also shortening its life span.
Hard to say I guess. I was the drain and fully charge guy. Never any issues. My wife is the opposite, she should constantly top it off or close and her battery would drain faster than mine. Eventually hers would die very early. So who knows.
Always been like this with all our phones
I know some firms in the past have built in charge counters in batteries so you could only charge the X amount of times, but that was a fair few years ago and things have moved on since.
but my phones I have charged them multiple times a day and my Xperia Z1 that I got on launch day is still in use by a friend and still has near perfect battery life despite being charged some time multiple times a day and always being left on charge overnight every night. (so thats for about 3 years now?)
my S6 I have ran on the wireless charger since I got the phone on release day, every time I went in the room I chucked it on the pad to keep it charged up, the phone still works and charges flawlessly, the Samsung charging pad unfortunately wasn't as up to the job as the phone was and died last week. but no big loss as I want a fast charging one after I get my note tomorrow.
-The less you recharge your phone, the better
-Keeping your phone between 40-80% is the best theoretical solution for best health. But if you are running your battery down to 40%, and charging back up to 80% twice a day, that's still more wear than just leaving your phone at your desk plugged in at 100%.
Or say you keep it at your desk and you have to move around office 4 times that day. So every time you leave your desk and come back, you charge it back from 90% to 100%. 4 x 10% - 40% is still less wear then the guy doing the 40-80% x 2 a day. Less charging overall.
http://techlife.samsung.com/tips-keep-smartphone-charged-1059.html
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According to Samsung.
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imatts said:
Its not bad, its actually recommended. Keeping the battery as high as frequently as possible will help in the long run.
Using it while its charging isnt so good though.
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Wrong. Going above 80% is a "high stress" situation for lithium batteries. It isn't bad, but the best charging practice for absolute longevity is keeping it between 20%-80%.
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Apparently keeping the battery between 50-80% is the ideal scenario. It's probably ok to change to 100 but leaving it on the charger once it's fully juiced makes the battery heat up too much which is bad for it.
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Leaving it on the charger doesn't heat up the battery. It just keeps the battery in that high stress state, and isn't good long-term. If you are doing intense activities with it plugged in, then yes that is a combo for high heat which is bad for the battery.
dermotti said:
-The less you recharge your phone, the better
-Keeping your phone between 40-80% is the best theoretical solution for best health. But if you are running your battery down to 40%, and charging back up to 80% twice a day, that's still more wear than just leaving your phone at your desk plugged in at 100%.
Or say you keep it at your desk and you have to move around office 4 times that day. So every time you leave your desk and come back, you charge it back from 90% to 100%. 4 x 10% - 40% is still less wear then the guy doing the 40-80% x 2 a day. Less charging overall.
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Not really. Leaving it at 100% all day is not the best idea. It'd be better to let it run down to 20% and recharge to 80%. Unless Samsung routes power directly to the motherboard when plugged in, instead of passing it THROUGH the battery first, it is absolutely better to not keep the phone at 100% and charging while using it, heating it up further, and it is still cycling the power/wear through the cells.
Does any of this matter? No. Unless you keep your phone for 2+ years, you aren't going to notice any difference. Charge it whenever and however you want. The battery isn't going to **** out on you because of how you charge it.
Thought the manufacturer warranty was two years anyway? Android phones are only guaranteed updates every two years so may as well upgrade every two years. If the battery craps out inside that time just warranty it. It's extremely unlikely though.
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TOO MANY MISCONCEPTIONS. Let me clear them up !!!!
1) Lithium batteries like to sit around 50% for prolonged periods.
2) It will NOT hurt to keep your phone on the charger. The charging circuitry cuts off power once the Cell hits 4.35 - 4.4v
3) It will HURT THE BATTERY MORE to keep using it when it is depleted or near depleted. Lithium batteries DO NOT like to go below a certain voltage depending on specific chemistry formulation.
To expand on this. It is BETTER to keep the phone at 95% than it is to keep it at 5%. I personally would NOT want my battery falling low enough that it gives a low battery indication (usually around 15%)
4) High Charge and Discharge LOWERS battery longevity. Lithium batteries prefer to be charged slowly and discharged slowly.
You guessed it. AVOID high charge scenarios such as Fast Charge. AVOID fast discharge scenarios such as gaming with high brightness etc.
5) Lithium batteries do NOT like heat. Again, this is usually caused due to high charge or discharge scenarios.
It also ties in with Fast charge, wireless charge and especially wireless fast charge. Wireless charging is not efficient and energy as wasted as heat.
Personally I disable fast charge and do not use wireless charging. Good old USB Type C already charges quickly enough for me.
I might put this in a new thread.
dermotti said:
-The less you recharge your phone, the better
-Keeping your phone between 40-80% is the best theoretical solution for best health. But if you are running your battery down to 40%, and charging back up to 80% twice a day, that's still more wear than just leaving your phone at your desk plugged in at 100%.
Or say you keep it at your desk and you have to move around office 4 times that day. So every time you leave your desk and come back, you charge it back from 90% to 100%. 4 x 10% - 40% is still less wear then the guy doing the 40-80% x 2 a day. Less charging overall.
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So basically what you are saying is you the more you use your phone, the more wear you will put on your battery.
100% to 0% drain (100% total) is still more wear on the battery than 80% to 40% 2x per day (80% total)?
GUYS... Come on.
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Wrong. Going above 80% is a "high stress" situation for lithium batteries. It isn't bad, but the best charging practice for absolute longevity is keeping it between 20%-80%.
Leaving it on the charger doesn't heat up the battery. It just keeps the battery in that high stress state, and isn't good long-term. If you are doing intense activities with it plugged in, then yes that is a combo for high heat which is bad for the battery.
Not really. Leaving it at 100% all day is not the best idea. It'd be better to let it run down to 20% and recharge to 80%. Unless Samsung routes power directly to the motherboard when plugged in, instead of passing it THROUGH the battery first, it is absolutely better to not keep the phone at 100% and charging while using it, heating it up further, and it is still cycling the power/wear through the cells.
Does any of this matter? No. Unless you keep your phone for 2+ years, you aren't going to notice any difference. Charge it whenever and however you want. The battery isn't going to **** out on you because of how you charge it.
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Nitemare, you are right. Almost no one is keeping their phone here for 2 years.
Hey everyone... All we needed to do was a search: Here is the quick guide to these batteries. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3846897#post3846897
There's a more in-depth article here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=518861
Just an FYI. These articles are for 2009 but still hold true. battery tech may have gotten a bit better, but the same rules. Both posts have cited sites as well.
Spike96 said:
So basically what you are saying is you the more you use your phone, the more wear you will put on your battery.
100% to 0% drain (100% total) is still more wear on the battery than 80% to 40% 2x per day (80% total)?
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Basically yes...batteries have a finite amount of charge cycles.
Charging 2000mah into your battery, whether its all at once, or 500mah x 4, should be roughly the same amount of wear on the battery.
For me, only things i ever worry about is deep discharges and heat. Heat is the worst enemy imho.
Everything else is pretty minor when it comes to wear.
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THS1989 said:
TOO MANY MISCONCEPTIONS. Let me clear them up !!!!
1) Lithium batteries like to sit around 50% for prolonged periods.
2) It will NOT hurt to keep your phone on the charger. The charging circuitry cuts off power once the Cell hits 4.35 - 4.4v
3) It will HURT THE BATTERY MORE to keep using it when it is depleted or near depleted. Lithium batteries DO NOT like to go below a certain voltage depending on specific chemistry formulation.
To expand on this. It is BETTER to keep the phone at 95% than it is to keep it at 5%. I personally would NOT want my battery falling low enough that it gives a low battery indication (usually around 15%)
4) High Charge and Discharge LOWERS battery longevity. Lithium batteries prefer to be charged slowly and discharged slowly.
You guessed it. AVOID high charge scenarios such as Fast Charge. AVOID fast discharge scenarios such as gaming with high brightness etc.
5) Lithium batteries do NOT like heat. Again, this is usually caused due to high charge or discharge scenarios.
It also ties in with Fast charge, wireless charge and especially wireless fast charge. Wireless charging is not efficient and energy as wasted as heat.
Personally I disable fast charge and do not use wireless charging. Good old USB Type C already charges quickly enough for me.
I might put this in a new thread.
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Pretty much covered it here. Good post.
And avoid high heat scenarios as much as you can.
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Somewhere in the samsung+ app for note 7, it says always keep the battery between 50 -90 for longevity.
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My last phone, an HTC One M8, spent every single night on the charger for the last 2 1/2 years. I would also connect it to a charger in the car when I was driving for any length of time, and that was fairly often as I was traveling regularly. The battery life was not appreciably shorter when I retired it last week than when I first got it.
YM, as always, MV.
So I have had my pixel 6 pro for about a month. First thing I did was put it in an otterbox case, screen protector, and a pop socket. I decided to give wireless charging a try, so I bought a special pop-socket brand wireless charger that claims to work better with phones that have a popsocket on them.
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I read reviews about people claiming their phone got hot, and I did expect the phone would get warm. This is wireless charging..... in a case.. etc.
So I've determined via temperature monitoring that my phone gets to a max temp of 107F when charging. I really do love that when I go to bed at night I can throw this thing on the charger and it stays on the charger thanks to the pop socket. Since it has 8 hours to charge, and it does charge slower than normal, I don't consider the slower charging rate to be a problem. But the temperature does give me some concern. It peaks at about 20 minutes, and stays pretty solid between 105 to 107 until I take it off the charger. Once removed, it seems to dissipate its heat quickly, being back to a normal temperature in about 15 minutes. Temperatures are as read from a battery temp app I have called 3C Battery Manager. When fast charging, I see the temps go to about 100F, so it's really not that much warmer. But when fast charging, it also wouldn't sit at 100F for 8 hours.
So should I be worried about the phone potentially being at 107F for 8 hours a day?
I thought that the wireless thing would be great since I wouldn't be plugging into a USB cable every night when I sleep. But with a temperature (and combined longevity) concern, I'm really not sure what I should do.
Opinions? Thoughts?
Joshy8 said:
So I have had my pixel 6 pro for about a month. First thing I did was put it in an otterbox case, screen protector, and a pop socket. I decided to give wireless charging a try, so I bought a special pop-socket brand wireless charger that claims to work better with phones that have a popsocket on them.
Amazon.com: PopSockets PopPower Home: Wireless Charger for Phones and Tablets - Night Blooms : Cell Phones & Accessories
Buy PopSockets PopPower Home: Wireless Charger for Phones and Tablets - Night Blooms: Chargers & Power Adapters - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
www.amazon.com
I read reviews about people claiming their phone got hot, and I did expect the phone would get warm. This is wireless charging..... in a case.. etc.
So I've determined via temperature monitoring that my phone gets to a max temp of 107F when charging. I really do love that when I go to bed at night I can throw this thing on the charger and it stays on the charger thanks to the pop socket. Since it has 8 hours to charge, and it does charge slower than normal, I don't consider the slower charging rate to be a problem. But the temperature does give me some concern. It peaks at about 20 minutes, and stays pretty solid between 105 to 107 until I take it off the charger. Once removed, it seems to dissipate its heat quickly, being back to a normal temperature in about 15 minutes. Temperatures are as read from a battery temp app I have called 3C Battery Manager. When fast charging, I see the temps go to about 100F, so it's really not that much warmer. But when fast charging, it also wouldn't sit at 100F for 8 hours.
So should I be worried about the phone potentially being at 107F for 8 hours a day?
I thought that the wireless thing would be great since I wouldn't be plugging into a USB cable every night when I sleep. But with a temperature (and combined longevity) concern, I'm really not sure what I should do.
Opinions? Thoughts?
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Temps are okay as long as they under 40° Celsius. Normally a phone will not exceed 35° C. Wireless charging is a bit different, since that creates a heckload of heat, but even then it's not a big deal, since the Pixel 6 has a built-in protection against temperature, meaning it will reduce the charging speed to protect itself if necessary.
Morgrain said:
Temps are okay as long as they under 40° Celsius. Normally a phone will not exceed 35° C. Wireless charging is a bit different, since that creates a heckload of heat, but even then it's not a big deal, since the Pixel 6 has a built-in protection against temperature, meaning it will reduce the charging speed to protect itself if necessary.
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Thanks for the reply. The highest I've recorded was 41.6C, which translates to the 107F I mentioned above.
Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
I'll have to pay more attention to the charging speed on my P6P and let you know what I experience. I try to never use fast charging, never charge overnight, try not to let the battery go below 25% and don't charge past 75%. That 50% range lasts me about 24 hours, but I might use my phone less than you.
I had no complaints about the charging speed on Android 12.
Edit: I'm happy with how much my phone has charged in the last 45 minutes, given that I don't use fast charge methods.
I am having the same issue. Installed 13 stable on my 6 pro. My battery got down to 4% so I plugged it in. I continued to watch YouTube and after an hour it was only up to 8%. Something is def wrong. The battery sucked before but now it's even worse
Updated yesterday and seems ive now got an issue with wireless charging. My phone stopped charging at 81% overnight. Its very intermittent whether it starts charging now on the two wireless chargers i have and seems to stop randomly, not getting to 100%. Charges fine using a cable.
Have the same problem since upgrading to android 13.
According to AccuBattery is the charge current around 900 mA. Way too slow and really annoying!
Didn't have the problem with android 12.
I'm using an Anker Power Port III which can charge with up to 25W. It's the same with other cables and charging devices.
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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I think you didn't get my point. I did a comparison between android 12 and android 13. Since the charging speed is reduced dramatically it doesn't matter which cables or charging devices I use unless they are the same.
So we don't discuss absolute charging times here but the fact that by upgrading the OS of our Pixel 6 Pro the charging behaviour changed ceteris paribus.
I charge slowly over night, the charger i use normally charges at 1.5A max, now on A13 it is charging at 800mA
I have ESR magsafe ring. My car charger is working for about 2 minutes and stops. Battery temperature reach 43°C within 2-3 minutes since I upgraded to android 13.
All of the magsafe accessories stopped working. All of the normal QI chargers stopped working. I absolutely hate this phone. First 3 months - no reception in buildings. Still no 5G in my country even with root and signal guru. Now it's not charging wirelessly and only slow charing with cable.
My new guess is it is due to the overheating problem with the update to Android 13.
A lot of people complain about the high temperature. Therefore the phone reduces the charging speed.
Maybe that's also the reason for the problem with the wireless charging. too much heat = no wireless charging. Just guessing...
ATM I rebooted my phone to safe mode. Let's see if this helps.
Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
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Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
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Doubt this but I will try it and report back
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
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well we know for one you dont need that
just a cable capable of the current and a charger that hits PPF standards
and even with/without official chargers it will only peak 21w
im using a £5 Gan charger and a USlion 2M long magnetic 60w cable that can do data aswell and it is doing 20w peak for me on A13 which is what it did on A12 aswell. Both which i bought before the official charger came out
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Doubt this but I will try it and report back
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Nope, still charging like a piece of [crap, so,] not sure what Google did with A13 , I use official charger for fast charge, considerably slower than on A12
But yeah 3rd party Chinese charge and magnetic cable no issues. Charging issues are not a13 related it will be some defining factor like an app or hardware
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Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
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I am having the same problem
I updated my pixel 5a to 13 stable. It's charging speed decreased a lot . Firstly it took around 1hr 50 min to get 100 now it's lot
more than 3hr. Gets lot of heating while charging.
Sometime it shows "6 hr to full charge" even at (30-40) battery level, and that's really bad .
After 13 Device is heating ( not just warm) so much even in normal uses (No gaming).
My own testing found out as long as battery reach 41 degree C, the P6P will charge at 3.5W only... (While still displaying fast charging). It you put the phone in front of air conditioner vent to lower the temperature to 25 degrees C, then it charging at full 20W.
The P6P easily get into battery y 41 degrees C by just charging at room temperature higher then 32 degrees C. On A12 its pretty difficult to get this... Somehow A13 drive the CPU while charging which I suspect affect the heat dispatching. I used a charging wire with watterage display so its easily see how P6P limiting the charging wattage with temperature.
It was considerably slower for me too. I was in Spain, coming from UK, so had to use adapter. I thought it's the case, but it has also been something with temperatures, I couldn't backup the pictures because the system showed me it's too hot. I hope that was the issue.
I just swith to Android 13 there are ossue with battery . please fix it .you guys are doing great work