Can I just flash the June update and go back?
No issues when I used the July update (non-Verizon), but yes you can go back
If you don't mind setting up your phone again you might want to try a factory reset before going back to June. Sometimes after an OTA update or an accumulation of OTA updates over time something in the phone gets corrupted (cache, old app data, code that isn't properly updated or erased in an update) and the best thing to do is a factory reset to start fresh.
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No issues when I used the July update (non-Verizon), but yes you can go back
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Thank you for responding.
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If you don't mind setting up your phone again you might want to try a factory reset before going back to June. Sometimes after an OTA update or an accumulation of OTA updates over time something in the phone gets corrupted (cache, old app data, code that isn't properly updated or erased in an update) and the best thing to do is a factory reset to start fresh.
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That's a good suggestion. Thanks for responding.
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Can I just flash the June update and go back?
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Mine did as well, I suspected teh July update.
5 days in though it seems to have cooled off and is working at the temps I am accustomed to ~30c at idle.
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Mine did as well, I suspected teh July update.
5 days in though it seems to have cooled off and is working at the temps I am accustomed to ~30c at idle.
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Okay thanks. That's good to know. For now I have flashed back to June. I may flash July and factory reset as was suggested above. For the past few months I have been updating by removing the "-w" from the flashall batch file and maybe it's caught up with me. I also tried wiping the davlik cache in twrp but that doesn't seem to work.
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Okay thanks. That's good to know. For now I have flashed back to June. I may flash July and factory reset as was suggested above. For the past few months I have been updating by removing the "-w" from the flashall batch file and maybe it's caught up with me. I also tried wiping the davlik cache in twrp but that doesn't seem to work.
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Try just clearing your cache partition from settings > storage. It may help in some cases too if cache is corrupted.
Factory reset will pretty much guarantee fix.
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That's a good suggestion. Thanks for responding.
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You're welcome.
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milan187 said:
Try just clearing your cache partition from settings > storage. It may help in some cases too if cache is corrupted.
Factory reset will pretty much guarantee fix.
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You might be right that adding -w caused your problem. There is always a possibility that some user data in an app that gets saved can cause problems after the phone is updated.
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You might be right that adding -w caused your problem. There is always a possibility that some user data in an app that gets saved can cause problems after the phone is updated.
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Well I factory reset and installed the July update. The phone is fine now and not not hot but it seems a lot faster too. The only issue I ran into was that evidently my apps weren't being backed up to my google account, so I had to manually install them again. Thanks for your advice!
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Well I factory reset and installed the July update. The phone is fine now and not not hot but it seems a lot faster too. The only issue I ran into was that evidently my apps weren't being backed up to my google account, so I had to manually install them again. Thanks for your advice!
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I've had that happen after a factory reset or Rom flash in the past too even though I knew my apps were being backed up--they are by default unless you turn the feature off. I don't know why that happens but sometimes it does. I'm glad everything is working fine now. Sometimes giving your phone a fresh start by doing an occasional factory reset or completely clean flash is the best thing you can do. The fact that it seems to be running faster now is very likely true. Again, glad you got it sorted out. I'm actually running the beta of O and if you like how the Pixel runs on Nougat I think you will be even happier when O officially rolls out in August. The boot time on O is almost instant, battery life is slightly better and should improve more if more apps optimize their code for O, and the phone runs very snappy even though O is still in beta.
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I've had that happen after a factory reset or Rom flash in the past too even though I knew my apps were being backed up--they are by default unless you turn the feature off. I don't know why that happens but sometimes it does. I'm glad everything is working fine now. Sometimes giving your phone a fresh start by doing an occasional factory reset or completely clean flash is the best thing you can do. The fact that it seems to be running faster now is very likely true. Again, glad you got it sorted out. I'm actually running the beta of O and if you like how the Pixel runs on Nougat I think you will be even happier when O officially rolls out in August. The boot time on O is almost instant, battery life is slightly better and should improve more if more apps optimize their code for O, and the phone runs very snappy even though O is still in beta.
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Interesting. So O is supposed to become available in August. Will my older apps still work or will they all have to be updated by the developers? Also- for future updates would I be better off doing an OTA vs a complete flash (with the -w taken out)? In any case it sounds like at least every other month I should do a reset and reinstall anyway. What is the risk in just not updating every month? Thanks!
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Interesting. So O is supposed to become available in August. Will my older apps still work or will they all have to be updated by the developers? Also- for future updates would I be better off doing an OTA vs a complete flash (with the -w taken out)? In any case it sounds like at least every other month I should do a reset and reinstall anyway. What is the risk in just not updating every month? Thanks!
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I've encountered a handful of apps that don't work on O but they probably will by the official launch date. But an app being optimized to help provide better battery life is something that goes on in the background that you won't notice unless you are a programmer that can analyze code or knowledgeable tech writers shame app devs publicly who don't do it. Android O has the ability to limit an apps background processes so it uses less battery but my understanding is that it only happens if the app developers voluntarily write code that allows O to do that to the app and a lot of devs are probably not going to do that if it is voluntary.
I'm not sure what your setup is but if you are manually flashing updates presumably you have a custom recovery and possibly root. Some Pixel users have reported successfully flashing OTA updates anyway because of the dual partitions on the Pixel but it wipes out your custom recovery and root and returns you to full stock and I'm not sure doing that works reliably. I don't know that the Flashfire/Flashify (I don't remember which app goes with TWRP) works on the Pixel. I don't have any experience flashing OTA updates manually via bootloader rather than the full monthly update. Personally I was never a fan of removing -w from a full flash because it can always lead to potential problems that aren't necessarily completely obvious. I always prefer to clean flash to give the phone a clean start, but that's just my own preference. I didn't like to dirty flash custom Roms either --i would always do a clean flash every month and set up my phone from scratch.
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I've encountered a handful of apps that don't work on O but they probably will by the official launch date. But an app being optimized to help provide better battery life is something that goes on in the background that you won't notice unless you are a programmer that can analyze code or knowledgeable tech writers shame app devs publicly who don't do it. Android O has the ability to limit an apps background processes so it uses less battery but my understanding is that it only happens if the app developers voluntarily write code that allows O to do that to the app and a lot of devs are probably not going to do that if it is voluntary.
I'm not sure what your setup is but if you are manually flashing updates presumably you have a custom recovery and possibly root. Some Pixel users have reported successfully flashing OTA updates anyway because of the dual partitions on the Pixel but it wipes out your custom recovery and root and returns you to full stock and I'm not sure doing that works reliably. I don't know that the Flashfire/Flashify (I don't remember which app goes with TWRP) works on the Pixel. I don't have any experience flashing OTA updates manually via bootloader rather than the full monthly update. Personally I was never a fan of removing -w from a full flash because it can always lead to potential problems that aren't necessarily completely obvious. I always prefer to clean flash to give the phone a clean start, but that's just my own preference. I didn't like to dirty flash custom Roms either --i would always do a clean flash every month and set up my phone from scratch.
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Okay that's good to know thank you!
You're welcome.
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Hi,
am using a Pixel XL 1 on Android 8.1, bootloader unlocked, patch level of February. Now I have the problem that since about December no OTA updates are shown/offered at all. Therefor I always had to manually update.
Even the manual triggering of searching for updates, which has recently been changed so that the devices explicitly should get the currently available update, does not work.
The device was rooted, but I have unrooted it (Magisk) now, and is running the standard firmware from Feburar on it.
Does anyone have any clue why my device is not offered any OTA updates?
Anyone?
What kind of recovery do you have installed? Stock or TWRP?
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What kind of recovery do you have installed? Stock or TWRP?
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Stock. So everything should be as vanilla as possible! I'm really clueless.
i don't get it either. pixels running a non-stock os should get notifications about a new update. they won't install successfully though. i'm guessing, but maybe going through the unroot process to get rid of magisk did not return your os to completely stock. maybe some junk was left behind and that's causing your issue.
my suggestion is to flash a full factory image to start fresh. i would edit the flash-all.bat script to remove the -w option to keep data. if that doesn't work, put the -w option back and rerun to wipe data and flash the factory image. if you really want to see if that fixes your problem, flash an older image like the february or january one, and see if the update notification comes back. or flash the march image to be up to date and wait until april to see if you get the update notification.
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i don't get it either. pixels running a non-stock os should get notifications about a new update. they won't install successfully though. i'm guessing, but maybe going through the unroot process to get rid of magisk did not return your os to completely stock. maybe some junk was left behind and that's causing your issue.
my suggestion is to flash a full factory image to start fresh. i would edit the flash-all.bat script to remove the -w option to keep data.
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That's what I've did already No difference.
if that doesn't work, put the -w option back and rerun to wipe data and flash the factory image.
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It's just the hassle installing everything from scratch again.
I wish recovery/backup was as easy as on iOS. Without necessity of any tricks, root etc.
Is this phone enrolled in the Android Beta Program ? I've had trouble getting OTA updates on my phone after the beta program ended for it until I un-enrolled from the program, then I got updates like normal. There will be warnings about having to wipe the device, but if your on the the stock/stable version already you won't have to.
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Is this phone enrolled in the Android Beta Program ? I've had trouble getting OTA updates on my phone after the beta program ended for it until I un-enrolled from the program, then I got updates like normal. There will be warnings about having to wipe the device, but if your on the the stock/stable version already you won't have to.
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Tried that one as well. I was on a beta at some point, but unsubscribed from the beta. Also tried to unsubscribe again, but it the well know link took me to a page where it said that there is no beta, hence I couldn't try to unsubscribe again.
When you flashed the full factory image did you use the newest march update? if you did then you wouldnt get anything because you are already current
Gotta say, exactly the same problem.. stuck on 8.0 November lol. Haven't found a solution, too lazy to manually flash for now. Let me know if you find a solution!
have you tried deleting the data and cache on the google services app?
Hi, I'm aware that several people have issues with the new pie rom.
Unfortunately, I have a problem that I haven't seen before on the forum:
It takes like a full 5 sec to call somebody and the same to end it.
It's very frustrating because I never know how to react in this situation (did he heard? Etc...)
I don't want to factory reset and I got everything stock.
Anyone has an idea on how to fix this?
Can I wipe cache with the stock recovery? Maybe install an other phone app?
Thx
i am having issues in pie as well. i cant seem to transfer large files to the phone.doing so makes the phone restarts. i tried it 5 times or so. fhis update is not good
Only way to clear up issues is a clean factory image install if this was not done to begin with.
OK thanks...
Though I blindfully hope someone will be get some alternative has I don't want do execute such extreme solution
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OK thanks...
Though I blindfully hope someone will be get some alternative has I don't want do execute such extreme solution
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It's actually relatively painless. Apps restore automatically when you go through setup, calls and texts are restored, as well as system settings and WiFi networks. Takes me ~30 mins total, and maybe 5 of that is actually looking at the phone, the rest is letting it sync and restore backups automatically.
I was thinking about it doing a factory reset once the final came out but I've heard stories from fellow moviepass owners that are unable to use the app when switching phones. That would make a valid concern for factory resets as well. Not because of lag but I have noticed battery seems worse after the upgrade and wanted to factory reset to rule out. As I ran all the ota betas of pie a factory reset isn't a bad idea anyway.
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I was thinking about it doing a factory reset once the final came out but I've heard stories from fellow moviepass owners that are unable to use the app when switching phones. That would make a valid concern for factory resets as well. Not because of lag but I have noticed battery seems worse after the upgrade and wanted to factory reset to rule out. As I ran all the ota betas of pie a factory reset isn't a bad idea anyway.
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Your device ID is tied to the app. When you factory reset and reinstall the app your device ID is reset. You can root using Magisk and then install Titanium Backup to backup the app and data, this will preserve the ID. i had to do this when switching ROMS.
My Pixel 2XL is acting up starting this morning
- The camera app won't open, it crashes instantly. Other apps can't access the camera. I tried clearing the data, cache and restarting. Nothing has worked so far.
- YouTube is stuck in a load loop, all is see is the loading circle to infinity. I attempted to clear cache and data and install an older version. Again, nothing works.
- Restarting didn't solve anything.
- Both issues linger in safe mode.
Any ideas on wtf could be going on?
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My Pixel 2XL is acting up starting this morning
- The camera app won't open, it crashes instantly. Other apps can't access the camera. I tried clearing the data, cache and restarting. Nothing has worked so far.
- YouTube is stuck in a load loop, all is see is the loading circle to infinity. I attempted to clear cache and data and install an older version. Again, nothing works.
- Restarting didn't solve anything.
Any ideas on wtf could be going on?
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Sounds like you've got an unexplained, interesting and unwanted glitch! Are you full stock, or rooted?
Your only solution will likely be a factory reset, or possibly a dirty fastboot flash of the factory image so as not to wipe your data. You might even get by with just fastbooting the vendor image as well.
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Sounds like you've got an unexplained, interesting and unwanted glitch! Are you full stock, or rooted?
Your only solution will likely be a factory reset, or possibly a dirty fastboot flash of the factory image so as not to wipe your data. You might even get by with just fastbooting the vendor image as well.
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Full stock.
I want to avoid any resets tbh.
Could the OTA Monthly Update solve anything?
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Full stock.
I want to avoid any resets tbh.
Could the OTA Monthly Update solve anything?
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It's definitely worth a try. Just like fastbooting the factory image without the -w :good:
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It's definitely worth a try. Just like fastbooting the factory image without the -w :good:
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I guess I'll wait for the Sept update, if that doesn't work, I'll try the manual flashing
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I guess I'll wait for the Sept update, if that doesn't work, I'll try the manual flashing
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The job of flashing the factory image while saving data is super easy. If you have a pc and a half hour your golden. If you wanna give it a go, let us know and one of us can walk you through it if you have any concerns...
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Even i have the same camera issue. It suddenly stopped working. Some times it does start after a few tries if i hold it in landscape mode. But mostly it keeps crashing and doesn't even allow other apps to access camera.
So a quick follow-up. Here is what i've done so far:
- Cleared storage/cache and uninstalled the camera updates
- Installed Android 10
- Updated to Camera 7.0 Beta
- Booted into safe mode.
None of these actions solved the issue.
I then resetted my phone (2 days ago) and that seemed to have solved the problem. However, starting a few minutes ago and while I was taking photos, I again lost focus in the lens and the app crashed.
What could be the issue? It seems its the focus is problematic though it worked for a good while. Surely it isn't hardware as the camera worked for ~40 hours after resetting.
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What could be the issue? It seems its the focus is problematic though it worked for a good while. Surely it isn't hardware as the camera worked for ~40 hours after resetting.
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Just because it worked correctly for around 40 hours after a reset doesn't mean that you can rule out hardware issues as a culprit. Especially since you have done everything you possibly could on the software end and it hasn't helped.
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Just because it worked correctly for around 40 hours after a reset doesn't mean that you can rule out hardware issues as a culprit. Especially since you have done everything you possibly could on the software end and it hasn't helped.
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You're absolutely right. I did another reset (this time without restoring from backup) and the camera doesn't open at all. I'm hoping its a OS bug.
Thank god the Pixel 4 will be released in 4 weeks.
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The job of flashing the factory image while saving data is super easy. If you have a pc and a half hour your golden. If you wanna give it a go, let us know and one of us can walk you through it if you have any concerns...
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I have exactly the same problem that they report, it does not open cameras or YouTube.
Can you give me the steps to upload a factory image?
Regards
Hello, everyone!
I just installed Android 10 onto my Pixel 3 XL a couple of hours ago and I've noticed battery drain and some lag. Is a factory reset suggested at this point, since I flashed a new Android version?
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I had animations removed under "Accessibility" and I toggled it back on, then I turned Dev. Options on and switched animations to .5x and the problem seems to have went away. I'll have to update you all on battery life later. Still, the question remains... Is a reset suggested?
I just also did the ota update and now my pixel 3xl is stuck on a Google splash screen. Did I just somehow brick my phone?
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I just also did the ota update and now my pixel 3xl is stuck on a Google splash screen. Did I just somehow brick my phone?
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Had to enter stock recovery and reboot myself, mine was black screen. After that i was good
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Had to enter stock recovery and reboot myself, mine was black screen. After that i was good
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Were you on the latest beta before the update? My update file was only 5.5mb. Went pretty quickly.
is it worth factory resetting device with this latest update?
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is it worth factory resetting device with this latest update?
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No, if you used the ota through phone, google would of already done maintenance before the install, ie, removed incompatible apps settings and features.
Has anyone flashed the factory image? If so what one did you use. I can't flash the the 10 factory image. The only was I can get it is to flash the Pie factory image, and then take the OTA. Not sure why I get an error every time I try to flash 10.
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I just also did the ota update and now my pixel 3xl is stuck on a Google splash screen. Did I just somehow brick my phone?
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This happened to me too. After about five bootloops I finally got it to boot, but it booted back to B6, and the update said it couldn't install. I tried again, and all went well the second time.
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This happened to me too. After about five bootloops I finally got it to boot, but it booted back to B6, and the update said it couldn't install. I tried again, and all went well the second time.
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Ive tried the update 3 times now and every time it has been stuck at the boot. I would have to turn off and try to restart around 3-5 times for it to go back to Android Pie. So still unable to update to Android 10.
Ill try it one more time later and see if maybe they changed the update a bit
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Ive tried the update 3 times now and every time it has been stuck at the boot. I would have to turn off and try to restart around 3-5 times for it to go back to Android Pie. So still unable to update to Android 10.
Ill try it one more time later and see if maybe they changed the update a bit
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I don't know if this had anything to do with it but I disabled my ad blocker and I cleared all recent apps and then when I tried it the second time it worked so maybe make sure everything is clear and you have no ad blocker enabled.
For small updates like monthly security patches or version increases of 0.1 or 0.0.1 I usually don't worry about doing a clean install since the changes are usually pretty minimal. For large updates I like to do a clean install just for piece of mind that all the crap that built up on my phone over the past year is gone, to eliminate the general issues that pop up with dirty installs, and having a squeaky clean fresh install just feels nice once in a while.
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Has anyone flashed the factory image? If so what one did you use. I can't flash the the 10 factory image. The only was I can get it is to flash the Pie factory image, and then take the OTA. Not sure why I get an error every time I try to flash 10.
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I updated 9->10 like I normally do each month by dirty flashing the full image (not full OTA) so I would say you do not need to do a factory reset. I did not previously install any of the betas. Although the install took longer and was different (fastbootd) it completed and booted to system the first time. It may just be time for a fresh install, meaning leave the wipe flag in the flash-all script and let it erase your user data.
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I updated 9->10 like I normally do each month by dirty flashing the full image (not full OTA) so I would say you do not need to do a factory reset. I did not previously install any of the betas. Although the install took longer and was different (fastbootd) it completed and booted to system the first time. It may just be time for a fresh install, meaning leave the wipe flag in the flash-all script and let it erase your user data.
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I was doing a complete wipe.
(Update) I finally got it to do a full factory image flash with a complete wipe. The only thing I changed was, I switched from Slot B to Slot A. Not sure if that was even the issue, but It worked, and now My Pixel 3XL is running really well. No issues that are being reported.
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I don't know if this had anything to do with it but I disabled my ad blocker and I cleared all recent apps and then when I tried it the second time it worked so maybe make sure everything is clear and you have no ad blocker enabled.
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i didnt install any 3rd party ad-blocker apps on the phone before... if there is any, it would be google's out of box one... i doubt they have one out of the box.
Im too nervous to do this update again only for it to brick again right now
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i didnt install any 3rd party ad-blocker apps on the phone before... if there is any, it would be google's out of box one... i doubt they have one out of the box.
Im too nervous to do this update again only for it to brick again right now
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Suit yourself, but if your adb/fastboot binaries are all up to date (July 2019) and you are flashing the full image (not the OTA image), then you should have no issues at all. There are many guides on how to do this properly and the procedure is no different now than with 9. Also, there is no "change" coming to make the install smoother because there is nothing to fix. If your bootloader is unlocked this phone is virtually un-brickable.
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Suit yourself, but if your adb/fastboot binaries are all up to date (July 2019) and you are flashing the full image (not the OTA image), then you should have no issues at all. There are many guides on how to do this properly and the procedure is no different now than with 9. Also, there is no "change" coming to make the install smoother because there is nothing to fix. If your bootloader is unlocked this phone is virtually un-brickable.
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if i do a full image, not the OTA version, does that require a factory reset?
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if i do a full image, not the OTA version, does that require a factory reset?
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No, but you do need an unlocked bootloader. If you are unlocked go ahead and flash the full image. Be sure to do a version check of your adb/fastboot. Sometimes you can get into trouble if you have old versions in a different location. You need to be sure you are running version 29.0.2 (July 2019). If you did not lose all your user data on past attempts, do a dirty flash (removing the -w flag from the flash-all.bat file). If you already lost your data, then just run the script as-is. GL.
Edit: If you were trying to update 9->10 using an OTA, that is probably your issue. The full image will properly reformat your file system for 10.
I just started receiving the error "Bluetooth keeps stopping" on my Pixel 3 XL a week ago. It comes and goes seemingly completely at random, sometimes clicking close app will work and other times it will just keep coming back over and over until I restart my phone. It's a huge problem because it takes my wifi and sometimes I think even my mobile data down with it. I've read a bunch of posts and it seems like many people have been having this issue.
I've tried turning off Wi-fi and Bluetooth scanning.
updating Google Play system update.
Clearing cache and storage of Bluetooth.
resetting every bluetooth device I own
Factory Reset
sideloading an OTA image
Flashing a factory image
I'm all out of ideas. The only thing I can come up with is it's a hardware issue, but generally hardware issues I run into are not so sporadic and random. Usually it's either broke, or not broke. It doesn't seem to correlate to how hot the phone gets. I feel like Google broke something with an Android update. I've tried to warranty it through Google but I purchased it new on Ebay and they want the original purchasers name, email and order number. Anyone know of a way around that for Google's warranty?
As a last ditch effort I just flashed the Sep 18th Android 9 factory image, crossing my fingers that for some reason that does something.
My only other idea is google has driver binaries posted for pixel devices. Do these binaries get written over/rolled back when the factory image is flashed? Or are they isolated and not touched when flashing a factory image? Could flashing new driver binaries fix the problem? If so, does anyone have a guide on how to flash the driver binaries, google gives documentation for sideloading the OTA or flashing factory images, but nothing for how to install the driver binaries.
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I just started receiving the error "Bluetooth keeps stopping" on my Pixel 3 XL a week ago. It comes and goes seemingly completely at random, sometimes clicking close app will work and other times it will just keep coming back over and over until I restart my phone. It's a huge problem because it takes my wifi and sometimes I think even my mobile data down with it. I've read a bunch of posts and it seems like many people have been having this issue.
I've tried turning off Wi-fi and Bluetooth scanning.
updating Google Play system update.
Clearing cache and storage of Bluetooth.
resetting every bluetooth device I own
Factory Reset
sideloading an OTA image
Flashing a factory image
I'm all out of ideas. The only thing I can come up with is it's a hardware issue, but generally hardware issues I run into are not so sporadic and random. Usually it's either broke, or not broke. It doesn't seem to correlate to how hot the phone gets. I feel like Google broke something with an Android update. I've tried to warranty it through Google but I purchased it new on Ebay and they want the original purchasers name, email and order number. Anyone know of a way around that for Google's warranty?
As a last ditch effort I just flashed the Sep 18th Android 9 factory image, crossing my fingers that for some reason that does something.
My only other idea is google has driver binaries posted for pixel devices. Do these binaries get written over/rolled back when the factory image is flashed? Or are they isolated and not touched when flashing a factory image? Could flashing new driver binaries fix the problem? If so, does anyone have a guide on how to flash the driver binaries, google gives documentation for sideloading the OTA or flashing factory images, but nothing for how to install the driver binaries.
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Try flashing the dec/Jan build then lock bootloader then start phone as normal setup then unlock bootloader. There's also some Bluetooth settings in the developer ootions. Also check battery settings for the app maybe try turning off optizmation for it. There's also a setting somewhere that will let you turn off the ble236a scan it's always on mine new pair list. But the drivers are usually flash with the update or ota. I needed to flash those when flashing Dirty Unicorns. Fastboot flash vendor_a vendor.img and same for vendor_b believe the other is the radio img you would need to extract them with 7zip if using Windows.
Mine did this as well but I was using naptime,and servicly to kill and or deep sleep quicker. Which is what made me think of the battery optizmation
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Try flashing the dec/Jan build then lock bootloader then start phone as normal setup then unlock bootloader. There's also some Bluetooth settings in the developer ootions. Also check battery settings for the app maybe try turning off optizmation for it. There's also a setting somewhere that will let you turn off the ble236a scan it's always on mine new pair list. But the drivers are usually flash with the update or ota. I needed to flash those when flashing Dirty Unicorns. Fastboot flash vendor_a vendor.img and same for vendor_b believe the other is the radio img you would need to extract them with 7zip if using Windows.
Mine did this as well but I was using naptime,and servicly to kill and or deep sleep quicker. Which is what made me think of the battery optizmation
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Just a precaution, as soon as you start locking and unlocking bootloader you're going to be doing a complete wipe of your device. So backup before hand. You'll also want to do a complete install of the factory image, with the wipe option, before you attempt to lock the bootloader. If you lock the bootloader and you are not 100% stock of something goes wrong you could end up with an expensive paper weight.
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Try flashing the dec/Jan build then lock bootloader then start phone as normal setup then unlock bootloader. There's also some Bluetooth settings in the developer ootions. Also check battery settings for the app maybe try turning off optizmation for it. There's also a setting somewhere that will let you turn off the ble236a scan it's always on mine new pair list. But the drivers are usually flash with the update or ota. I needed to flash those when flashing Dirty Unicorns. Fastboot flash vendor_a vendor.img and same for vendor_b believe the other is the radio img you would need to extract them with 7zip if using Windows.
Mine did this as well but I was using naptime,and servicly to kill and or deep sleep quicker. Which is what made me think of the battery optizmation
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The error happened once immediately after a full factory image flash before I had downloaded a single program or changed a single setting, so I don't see how it could be bluetooth settings, battery optimization, wifi/bluetooth scanning, or a rogue app. Oddly enough, since posting this last night I've managed to go 12 hours without an errors after flashing the Sept 2018 factory image. buuuuuuuut now I'm afraid to upgrade to Android 10 again.
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Just a precaution, as soon as you start locking and unlocking bootloader you're going to be doing a complete wipe of your device. So backup before hand. You'll also want to do a complete install of the factory image, with the wipe option, before you attempt to lock the bootloader. If you lock the bootloader and you are not 100% stock of something goes wrong you could end up with an expensive paper weight.
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Thank you for making sure I understood this. Yeah, I generally factory reset my phone and laptop once a year so I always back everything up before a reset. And yeah, I haven't changed anything from stock on this phone since I've had it, so unlocking and locking the bootloader should never cause any issues. As I told Billy, the Sept 2018 image seems to have fixed the problem, fingers crossed.
Is it probable that upgrading once again to Android 10 will cause the issue to return? The Sept 2018 image must have changed an internal setting or driver that wasn't functioning properly.
iwestfall7062 said:
Is it probable that upgrading once again to Android 10 will cause the issue to return? The Sept 2018 image must have changed an internal setting or driver that wasn't functioning properly.
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I can't tell you for sure, but i would think the latest firmware should work. There have been a number of Bluetooth fixes since the original firmware, which it appears you're on now. That, and lots of security fixes.
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I can't tell you for sure, but i would think the latest firmware should work. There have been a number of Bluetooth fixes since the original firmware, which it appears you're on now. That, and lots of security fixes.
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Yeah, I mean I would much prefer being on Android 10 and having the latest updates, I normally update as soon as they come out. But, given that I flashed the Jan 2020 image and bluetooth was still broken, and then flashed the Sep 2018 which seems to have fixed it, I'm hesitant to go back to the Jan 2020 updates. Kind of tending towards the if it isn't broken, don't fix it philosophy right now. If I had time to monkey around with my phone all the time I wouldn't mind, but the semester just started and I use my phone for everything at school so I don't really have time for it to be not working. >.< Such an odd issue and odd fix.
Looks hardware related, like the cable is loose.
wangdaning said:
Looks hardware related, like the cable is loose.
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And it's continuing to happen even with the Sept 2018 factory image flash.
Why do you think it's hardware related and that a cable is loose when a reboot fixes it? If the cable is loose a reboot shouldn't fix it.
iwestfall7062 said:
And it's continuing to happen even with the Sept 2018 factory image flash.
Why do you think it's hardware related and that a cable is loose when a reboot fixes it? If the cable is loose a reboot shouldn't fix it.
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What do you have Bluetooth connected to when it happens?
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What do you have Bluetooth connected to when it happens?
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Nothing. It doesn't matter whether anything is connected or not. It literally happened on first boot up of a fresh flashed Jan 2020 factory image, before I had put a single thing on the phone.
Generally I have my Fitbit Versa connected, I got 2 tiles awhile ago, but first troubleshooting thing I did was remove the app and delete those from bluetooth since those were my latest additions to bluetooth. I have backbeat fit headphones I use sometimes, the same with bose soundlink ii headphones, ps4 controllers, a jbl pulse 3, my car radio. But I factory restored all of those items so they weren't trying to connect to my phone, and then flashed the factory image. So I don't see how it has anything to do with an actual bluetooth connection.
Im having this same exact issue. Android 9 was always super smooth. It all started with the Android 10 update. I was having all kinds of Radio related (wifi/bluetooth/data) issues ever since. I noticed sometime in Nov/Dec that google released some kind of radio system app update and things got a little better. But I still have the Bluetooth problem (like today, which prompted me to find this thread) or every once in a while ill lose all data connectivity and have to reboot my phone for everything to come back. I LOVE the dark theme, but this has to be the worst Android update from a stability standpoint ive ever experienced.
Just want you to know it isnt just you. Its something to do with some phones on Android 10
JJT211 said:
Im having this same exact issue. Android 9 was always super smooth. It all started with the Android 10 update. I was having all kinds of Radio related (wifi/bluetooth/data) issues ever since. I noticed sometime in Nov/Dec that google released some kind of radio system app update and things got a little better. But I still have the Bluetooth problem (like today, which prompted me to find this thread) or every once in a while ill lose all data connectivity and have to reboot my phone for everything to come back. I LOVE the dark theme, but this has to be the worst Android update from a stability standpoint ive ever experienced.
Just want you to know it isnt just you. Its something to do with some phones on Android 10
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Yeah, I wish this thread held a solution for you. I've searched and searched and tried every solution I've found on google and nothing has worked, and really none of the threads I have found have ever had a concrete solution either, just one or two people going "well I did THIS and it worked", and a bunch of people saying it didn't work for them. I just cannot fathom how a full factory flash back to the very first image would not revert the changes that came with Android 10. That's why I was questioning whether or not a factory flash replaces driver binaries. It's the only way I could see the factory flash to Sept 2018 not fixing our issue. (Other than it really being a hardware issue, but that doesn't seem possible to me.)
Oh wow, you're still having same issues on Android 9??
Im still on Android 10, most recent update. I did do a full factory flash a few weeks ago and it was quite the improvement. But I still do have the Bluetooth/radio issue every once in a while, like yesterday.
I wonder if it's a hardware issue and/or substandard hardware performance that Android 10 made more prevalent? That's something we'll probably never know
I only pointed to hardware as I had a similar issue years ago. The radio connections were slightly loose so it would come and go. I do hope you are able to figure out what is wrong, was not trying to be rude.
wangdaning said:
I only pointed to hardware as I had a similar issue years ago. The radio connections were slightly loose so it would come and go. I do hope you are able to figure out what is wrong, was not trying to be rude.
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Oh no, I didn't think for a second you were being rude. And I appreciate your idea, just with what I'm experiencing with my specific phone it doesn't seem to be a hardware issue.
Strangely enough, the issue has been tapering off as of late, after the factory resets I just continued to use my phone while I wait to figure out if I can get a refund or a warranty replacement, etc. The issue has been occurring with much less frequency since then. Still happens, but not like it was.
Damn, the Bluetooth bug is back again. It was so bad the other day, my phone kept bootlooping for like 20 mins while I was on the road.
I finally just let phone sit for a while and it fixed itself. Man this is completely sporadic.
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Damn, the Bluetooth bug is back again. It was so bad the other day, my phone kept bootlooping for like 20 mins while I was on the road.
I finally just let phone sit for a while and it fixed itself. Man this is completely sporadic.
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Yeah, mines been better for like 4 days, and then it just crashed and rebooted by itself earlier today.
has anyone gotten to the bottom of this yet? it seems to be a result of the play store system update being "stuck" on Sept 1st...even if you get it to download to the current version, currently March 1st, after a reboot it will not show the March update has been applied. And should it actually show that the March update has been applies, within a day the phone will reboot and the bluetooth bug will return, strangely the update to the play store system reverts to Sept 1st.
I'm having this issue with my son's phone. I tried unlocking the bootloader and flashing the factory img from April but of course the bug is still there, and after signing in the Play Store system is of course dated Sept 1st
There is no fix. I made an official Android Issue Tracker thread.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/151033055
and a Google Pixel Phone Help thread.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/32828289?hl=en
Google's being ****ty about it. I eventually just bought a new Pixel 4 XL. I needed a functional phone for school and work, and as much as I hate to spend money on another Google product after this mess, they do make the most powerful pure android phones with the best camera. Ebay FTW, $600, never giving them another penny directly.
If you still have warranty, get it warrantied immediately, and don't take no for an answer. I dawdled around thinking it would get fixed and even though I reported that I was having issues with it directly to Google's phone support BEFORE the warranty expired, by the time I called a second time and pushed a manager to see if they could warranty it, my warranty had expired so they told me to go jump in a lake.
to make it worse, Google told me the phone still has an extended warranty but I'm not the original owner and have no way to contact that individual. But you need that person's email address for it to work. So it was purchased but because of this technicality it's null and void. I get the security of it but it's still garbage