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Hey All!
So my Nexus 4 took a big spill the other day that put it out of commission and i had to go to T-Mobile to get another phone. Last month i looked into the phones that were on the market (because my friend lost hers and i was helping her pick out a phone) and the choices we came down to were Nexus 6, Galaxy S5, and LG G3. Well She ended up finding her old phone but from that research i knew which one i wanted to get. I really like the nexus series but 6 inches is a deal-breaker for me, my biggest complaint about this LG G3 is that its too big...
In any case, i have had the phone for about one day but i can't stand the LG ROM on it. It feels slow (even with 3GB of RAM in this thing!) and I really don't like all the bloat ware the Tmobile put on my phone.
I like the stock android experience and want to find one that comes pretty close to it (although extra features are always a plus). Here is what I prioritize in my phone (starting with highest priority and going down:
-Stable, First and foremost i cannot stand a crash, i hate hate hate it. I need the ROM to work just as well (if not better) than the stock android ROMs on the nexus line
-Working Hardware, i take a bunch of pictures and am constantly using mobile data (4G LTE) so i need all these to work well
-Battery Life, I play games a lot on my phone during the day when waiting around for the bus or whatever, i like to have my battery last as long as possible so i don't need to break out a portable charger.
-Responsive, i don't need to have a ton of crazy amazing features, but i do want it to be responsive, nothing peeves me more than having input lag when texting someone.
-Customizability, i really do enjoy the fact that i can change the home buttons on that appear on the bottom of the screen on the LG G3 ROM, its a nice touch to be able to tap a button to get your notifications to pull down (especially on such a large phone), so customizability of small features like that go along way with me, small things like being able to see the day next to time i really love.
-Lastly i like to have my phone flat on my desk a lot and with the button on the back the best way to turn it on is the double tap, so if possible (but not necessary) i would like to retain that feature.
Some ROMs i have been looking at and read reviews but cant really decide which to try are Cyanogen Mod 12, Illusion, and PurpleDrake.
Based on my user profile (what is most important to me) which ROMs (can be one of the ones i listed or whatever one you think works best) would you recommend.
Also is flashing a custom kernel very popular on the LG G3? I know it was on the nexus 4 but is it also beneficial on this device?
Last, is there a good instruction on xda for rooting and unlocking the bootloader (and possibly flashing a custom recovery) for the LG G3 D851 (The specific one i have)?
Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
Itaintrite said:
Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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Thanks so much for your input! What is xposed? Is is an app that you install after flashing the ROM or is it something like GAPPS which your flash during installation of your ROM? Where can i find more information on what Xposed is and how it provides features?
Why do you say that my best bet is a stock-based ROM over an AOSP one?
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Thanks so much for your input! What is xposed? Is is an app that you install after flashing the ROM or is it something like GAPPS which your flash during installation of your ROM? Where can i find more information on what Xposed is and how it provides features?
Why do you say that my best bet is a stock-based ROM over an AOSP one?
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Basically, Xposed is a framework that allows you to install/remove codes (modules) on-the-fly. Easy to install. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-faq-issues-t2735540
Stock-based over AOSP because of your preferences lol. They're generally more stable and let you take advantage of ALL of the G3's hardware.
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Basically, Xposed is a framework that allows you to install/remove codes (modules) on-the-fly. Easy to install. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-faq-issues-t2735540
Stock-based over AOSP because of your preferences lol. They're generally more stable and let you take advantage of ALL of the G3's hardware.
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Do you know any specific problems that AOSP have with the G3 hardware over the Stock? I am really looking to get rid of bloatware and increase responsiveness and battery life. I just get this weird feeling like the stock ROM is slooooooow.
Also does the Xposed framework load down the phone at all? I feel with each module i install it would get progressively slower with all the stuff running in the background. Doesnt seem very lightweight after having the cloudyG3 installed i should have a ton of features (since its stock and not AOSP). seems like it would lag down it even more.
I'm just looking for a stable ROM with a decent set of features (i don't need anything too crazy) that is responsive (i feel with 3GB of RAM i shouldnt have to deal with lag anymore) and has a decent battery life (3000mAh is a lot, even with the large screen). What can you guys recommend based on that simply details?
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Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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I totally agree. Stock based +xposed over cm any day for stability.
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sharpeyedman said:
I totally agree. Stock based +xposed over cm any day for stability.
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What about Battery life? I want to get at least 4-6 hours SOT. Is that possible with stock?
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What about Battery life? I want to get at least 4-6 hours SOT. Is that possible with stock?
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i get about 4 hours sot i run stock and i used titanium backup to remove all the tmobile bloat and changed my startup and shut down logo since i run this on cricket which is now att.
i love att but will only use tmobile phones.
I have a lot of experience with Linux but despite having similar roots, Linux and Android are certainly very different beasts so I have a pretty noob question...
Would it be technically possible to easily create a ROM based on LG Stock, like Fulmics, but without the LG style and bloat? Basically LG Framework and camera but the rest (settings, dialer, icons, everything else) is pure stock Android.
For doing that You have to port google stock android app to lg g3 or theme the apps you need....i think so
Hi there. Your over-complicating the issue.
The best way to go about this would be to root your phone, freeze bloat-apps (I use system tuner pro to disable the annoying sms that my carrier sends through broadcast channel) and then install nova-launcher or something of the sorts. I now completely switched over to CM.. still on 12.1 though, as 13 is a tad buggy atm.
Not sure on how to go about the settings menus and stuff modification, but maybe someone else has figured that one out.
As for creating an entire rom based on LG's, I'm more worried about the legal constraints than anything else... their software might be android in its core, but it's still proprietary.
Maybe you can learn more if you start helping developers with current ROM's. I've always wanted to but never had the time.
Teoritically It is possible porting LG ui and camera to cm but no one will do it because framework need do much sources otherwise it will fc
Its not even worth the work
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sebatox said:
Teoritically It is possible porting LG ui and camera to cm but no one will do it because framework need do much sources otherwise it will fc
Its not even worth the work
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I was thinking the other way. Taking a stock based ROM like Fulmics have done but stripping out the hideous LG tweaks such as the oversized navigation soft-touch buttons and the ugly status bar icons.
Also replacing LG Dialer, calculator, calendar, email, etc with the normal Android ones.
xposed all the way plus fulmocs 3.5 mm on d850 g4 tweakbox gravity box and android theme engine
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xposed all the way plus fulmocs 3.5 mm on d850 g4 tweakbox gravity box and android theme engine
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Thanks. I wanted to try an avoid xposed if poss because it messes up Snapchat but it may be the unavoidable way to go.
true it sucks too cause when it come to lg. The g2 g3 and id say so on that stock roms are better in my opinion but i dont use a lotta app most people do i dont facebook i dont even really know whT snap chat is lol im old fashioned face book is the devils tool no good will ever come of it.
Stock rom without personalization layer
It would be interesting to have a stock rom and delete completely its layer of personalization (LG UX 3.0) and have pure android without customization. Is there any possibility to delete your personalization layer? In this aspect, the rom wins much fluidity. One of the main disadvantages of using rom like cyanogenmond, is the loss of the quality of the camera (Due to the framework of LG) but its fluidity and performance is extraordinary.
In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
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In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
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Get a Mi phone for all those features plus a mi phone will have better support for miui roms. Oxygen os is close to stock with some little functional tweaks. it doesn't have anything fancy like miui. But if you would ask me which rom is better i would say oos. it's simple clean less gimmicky. Hope this helps you.
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If you want to try MIUI, I suggests, buy Mi5... A MIUI port won't stable than an original one.
From my perspective: MIUI is really beautiful... If you see the screenshots.... You should try it. I think, everyone tried at least once... But for daily driver? No way. If you ever used AOSP based roms (oos, cm, etc), you won't use MIUI. I'm 80% sure, that you'll replace the original launcher. Than you'll sick some annoying incompatibles... Just look at MIUI forums. Problems with pop-up windows (for example Facebook messanger), problems with Android Pay, etc, etc.
I was ordered Mi5 (4/128G), but it went to out of stock, so I got refund... That was my luck. Now, I'm a happy OP3 user, and I don't need MIUI... That's my opinion.
As someone who previously always used stock or near stock ROMS, I currently own a Xiaomi Mi5. I ran with Miui for about a few weeks, but it really frustrated the hell out of me. Yes it looks nice, but I was always finding background apps just randomly stopped working or you had to allow extra security settings. I tried Google Now Loader on it, but that randonmly stopped working. In the end, I've flashed CM on it. So much better.
Going from a stock or near stock rom to MIUI is like going from Android to Apple. I will be returning my Mi5 to stock and selling on, as I now have a OP3 on the way.
Another reason - community support for OP3 is already strong. The Mi5 support thread is a joke.
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In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
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why dont you try the hos
for me OOS is better than miui. as i prefer stock android ui than heavily skinned miui.
MIUI 8 is cool- looking, feature-rich, but i just dont like the ios lookalike UX.
I have bad experiences with Oxygen in OP1 and 2, always uses CM or H20 ,
but if you are wondering about phones which running those 2 OS - Xiaomi mi5 and OP3, i think i should go for OP3, MI5 looks cheap with white color,and huge bezels
All the features you mentioned are available in the Chinese rom for OnePlus phones. Call recording is there, extra app permissions lockdown, etc. You'll have to install GApps manually if you need it.
The OP3 isn't on that page yet but should be soon.
Hope to See a miui rom for the op3 soon. Now using the mi launcher on it.
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I think both are not compareable. They try to reach different goals (MIUI feature rich and pretty colorful while OOS wants to add some features but stay close to stock). It depends mainly on the user.
I will be happy with tweaked OOS once my device will be delivered while you can count on custom ported MIUI roms. There's not that better one imho
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All the features you mentioned are available in the Chinese rom for OnePlus phones. Call recording is there, extra app permissions lockdown, etc. You'll have to install GApps manually if you need it.
The OP3 isn't on that page yet but should be soon.
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It mean "call recording" is not available in Oxygen?
I expect your answer to flash Oxygen. My OP3 is running H20 and if it isn't "call recording", i will not flash.
all oxygen is is stock android with a few apps from oneplus. plus it supports layers themeing. so yes IMO its almost as good as getting a nexus and much better than miui.
OOS on a Mi5?
I'm not sold on the aesthetic and a couple aspects of the OP3, I quite prefer the Mi5. I'm strongly considering attempting to load OxygenOS onto the 4/128gb Mi5 as my next phone and it sounds like people in this thread might have direct experience with this setup.
Any thoughts/tips? I unfortunately can't wait for the new Nexus phone(s) but I'm also considering a couple phones from ZTE & Huawei...
Thanks
Porting OxygenOS would be hard and pointless at this point, because Mi5 doesn't even have kernel sources and a working AOSP ROM. If you really want iOS lookalikes, I would recommend OPPO phones. They didn't release flagship for a couple years, but at least they know how to develop software well. R7 Plus has even Cyanogenmod 13, I believe.
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Porting OxygenOS would be hard and pointless at this point, because Mi5 doesn't even have kernel sources and a working AOSP ROM. If you really want iOS lookalikes, I would recommend OPPO phones. They didn't release flagship for a couple years, but at least they know how to develop software well. R7 Plus has even Cyanogenmod 13, I believe.
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Thanks but I specifically don't like iOS and wanting a phone that doesn't look like an iPhone is part of the draw towards the Mi5. That R7 Plus is an interesting phone, but for me the screen is too big and the CPU & GPU are quite subpar.
No one who makes a smartphone for the US has made one with the specs I'm looking for. OP3 falls short, the Nexus 6P is too far behind now, I find the Galaxy S7 to be hideous, the G5 was a disappointment. The HTC 10 is the closest bet but it's battery life sucks probably due to its pointlessly 4K screen.
The Huawei P9, Honor V8, ZTE Nubia Z11, and the Mi5 Pro are my top contenders at the moment, but there's no way I'm using their own OSs.
IMO Samsung is a big disappointment, because of their weird things like Knox.
boy i hate miui.. its known to bring gingerbread memory leak issues to marshmellow ! hahaha on the mi5 it restarts apps unnecessarily lol
Gingerbread didn't have memory leaks... or I've not experienced them while I was using it. In comparison, lollipop and above always had them on my Z2. That's why I started porting SailfishOS
Simontjee said:
Hope to See a miui rom for the op3 soon. Now using the mi launcher on it.
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I'm using the Mi launcher too. The look and feel of Miui and the best of OOS or Exodus Rom
OOS is great out of the box - stock Android with goodies (and useful goodies at that). Really stable and fast.
And since it's very near to stock Android, many Xposed modules work, so you can customize it much very easily.
It is beyond me why someone could prefer MIUI over that.
Today, I went back to the Stock rom, Lg G3 marshmallow... even tho i have bloatwares of Tmobile and other apps, the performance is smooth, battery is good also i found that the phone doesn't get hot on the back like when using custom roms.
I have been using different custom roms, like N&N, Fulmics 5.3 and 6.0 ... etc but all had the issue of getting my phone super hot and not smooth as stock.
Are you using a custom rom for Lg g3?
If yes, which one and why you choose it over the stock? pros and cons of the custom rom?
Thanks!
Shady282 said:
Today, I went back to the Stock rom, Lg G3 marshmallow... even tho i have bloatwares of Tmobile and other apps, the performance is smooth, battery is good also i found that the phone doesn't get hot on the back like when using custom roms.
I have been using different custom roms, like N&N, Fulmics 5.3 and 6.0 ... etc but all had the issue of getting my phone super hot and not smooth as stock.
Are you using a custom rom for Lg g3?
If yes, which one and why you choose it over the stock? pros and cons of the custom rom?
Thanks!
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I am usong fulmics 6 1 and is stable for me..... Though the 4g bumps for some time but still it is working fine! Only issue i am having right now is the mac address that has been changed automatically and am not able to reset it back..... Otherwise the rom is good.....
Xial Xahab said:
I am usong fulmics 6 1 and is stable for me..... Though the 4g bumps for some time but still it is working fine! Only issue i am having right now is the mac address that has been changed automatically and am not able to reset it back..... Otherwise the rom is good.....
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well i flashed Fulmics 6.1... the cellphone network wasn't working and wasn't able to power off the phone or restart it... so i flashed 30d modem and bootloader and everything is working fine now... i hope we get nougat.. but it seems it is going to come only as AOSP ...it is good if IR blaster and keyboard were ported, but we have to live with crappy camera :/
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well i flashed Fulmics 6.1... the cellphone network wasn't working and wasn't able to power off the phone or restart it... so i flashed 30d modem and bootloader and everything is working fine now... i hope we get nougat.. but it seems it is going to come only as AOSP ...it is good if IR blaster and keyboard were ported, but we have to live with crappy camera :/
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Ok. But What is fulmics Base? And what is your favourit kernel for it?
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Ok. But What is fulmics Base? And what is your favourit kernel for it
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I m using the fulmics kernel and everything.. it has a very nice battery life ! and very smooth and also i flashed update for the GPU posted by someone in the threat... search for gpu .. u will probably find it.
Shady282 said:
Today, I went back to the Stock rom, Lg G3 marshmallow... even tho i have bloatwares of Tmobile and other apps, the performance is smooth, battery is good also i found that the phone doesn't get hot on the back like when using custom roms.
I have been using different custom roms, like N&N, Fulmics 5.3 and 6.0 ... etc but all had the issue of getting my phone super hot and not smooth as stock.
Are you using a custom rom for Lg g3?
If yes, which one and why you choose it over the stock? pros and cons of the custom rom?
Thanks!
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I been off of stock for awhile now. I rooted my phone and flashed a custom rom within two weeks. Way too much bloatware on stock. I tried a few roms. My favourite was Dirty Unicorns, but I am on Slimsabre 5.1.1. now. I am considering trying Paranoid Android to see how it is. Plus right now I am running without gapps, which is another advantage to custom roms. My battery life has greatly improved and I love it without Google Play Services. I prefer the AOSP roms over even stock roms like Fulmics. I tried Fulmics and I wasn't really impressed with it. More customization I have found, and I like the custom kernels settings that are available. Only thing I do miss is the knock code feature. It was so much easier and faster to unlock the phone that way. I had overheating issues as well. Once I lowered my resolution to 1080p the overheating woes were done.
Andrewoidd said:
I been off of stock for awhile now. I rooted my phone and flashed a custom rom within two weeks. Way too much bloatware on stock. I tried a few roms. My favourite was Dirty Unicorns, but I am on Slimsabre 5.1.1. now. I am considering trying Paranoid Android to see how it is. Plus right now I am running without gapps, which is another advantage to custom roms. My battery life has greatly improved and I love it without Google Play Services. I prefer the AOSP roms over even stock roms like Fulmics. I tried Fulmics and I wasn't really impressed with it. More customization I have found, and I like the custom kernels settings that are available. Only thing I do miss is the knock code feature. It was so much easier and faster to unlock the phone that way. I had overheating issues as well. Once I lowered my resolution to 1080p the overheating woes were done.
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well.. AOSP has a big disadvantage for me because of the Camera quality, a lot of force close and the lack of features, IR blaster and keyboard...but i guess some were ported?... and i guess the knock code feature can be added through xposed? i remember seeing a module there.
Also, not sure i can live without gapps, for updates and looking for apps and also the voice commands, make the phone smart, useful and fun.
overheating issues with aosp?
At the end, we are going to end up with AOSP one day because of Nougat won't be supported by snapdragon 801... and CM is doing a good job with it but it seems that what they are going to port is just some features and the UI... which makes it quiet hard to leave the full stock rom for AOSP .
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well.. AOSP has a big disadvantage for me because of the Camera quality, a lot of force close and the lack of features, IR blaster and keyboard...but i guess some were ported?... and i guess the knock code feature can be added through xposed? i remember seeing a module there.
Also, not sure i can live without gapps, for updates and looking for apps and also the voice commands, make the phone smart, useful and fun.
overheating issues with aosp?
At the end, we are going to end up with AOSP one day because of Nougat won't be supported by snapdragon 801... and CM is doing a good job with it but it seems that what they are going to port is just some features and the UI... which makes it quiet hard to leave the full stock rom for AOSP .
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Yes the camera quality suffers but for me, I don't use the camera really so I am fine with it. The knock code from xposed only works when the screen is on, which defeats the purpose of the knock code I think. There is f-droid, and apk's that I use. Plus if I switch roms, titanium backup has my apps backed up so it saves the headache of having to install each one again. I've been getting away from Google do no Gapps is the first part. I am starting to trust open source more now. I had overheating issues but once I lowered the resolution to 1080p it fixed the issue.
I do not have a lot of experience loading custom roms. Is this pretty easy to do? Last time I tried this was with the original Motorola Droid (the one with slide out keyboard).
Does it make the Nexus 7 run much faster?
I have not been keeping track of the benefits of Android 7 vs older versions, are there compelling advantages to Nougat?
It seems like a good idea to try before upgrading to a new tablet. Lots of people seem to think upgrading the 2013 Nexus 7 to Nougat is better than getting a new Android tablet.
i think that, if you dont really use the nougat features, like double tap the recent key to switch to a recent app or split screen, youre better off with stock MM. I really like nougat but in order to make it work smoothly i have to install purenexus and elementalx kernel. Otherwise it would lag
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... loading custom roms... easy to do?
Does it make the Nexus 7 run much faster? .... advantages to Nougat?
It seems like a good idea to try before upgrading to a new tablet. Lots of people seem to think upgrading the 2013 Nexus 7 to Nougat is better than getting a new Android tablet.
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I've been running LineageOS Nougat on my WiFi Nexus 7 for quite a while, and I really like it. I found it super easy to install, and really haven't had any issues. I'd say I'm intermediate in my Android knowledge, and this is the only device I've played around with custom ROM's on. Other than the OS itself, I haven't had to install any other addon or separate kernel, except I install SuperSU for root.
It is faster for me, almost certainly, and I know the battery life has been a lot better for me than MM. Some of the Nougat features are really cool - I like the finer-grain notification control especially, and the greater start-up control.
My experience, it was dead slow, had to wipe cache weekly to keep it running.
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My experience, it was dead slow, had to wipe cache weekly to keep it running.
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Interestingly enough, I find the same is true on my galaxy S7 edge since the Nougat update. A weekly cache clear to keep it from lagging. Makes me wonder if Nougat is actually a nugget.
Does LineageOS Nougat work with the LTE 4G version and is that the only reliable N version available for our device?
Id like to stick Android N on this thing, its such an awesome bit of kit and still serves me well, everything about it is still great for me.. Its still used daily, all throughout the day..
probably screen-on time. On 6.0.1 purenexus i had 6/7hours sot watching yt videos. On 7.1.2 purenexus i have close to 5 hours sot.
better off staying on mm with dirtyunicorn or PA