I have a lot of experience with Linux but despite having similar roots, Linux and Android are certainly very different beasts so I have a pretty noob question...
Would it be technically possible to easily create a ROM based on LG Stock, like Fulmics, but without the LG style and bloat? Basically LG Framework and camera but the rest (settings, dialer, icons, everything else) is pure stock Android.
For doing that You have to port google stock android app to lg g3 or theme the apps you need....i think so
Hi there. Your over-complicating the issue.
The best way to go about this would be to root your phone, freeze bloat-apps (I use system tuner pro to disable the annoying sms that my carrier sends through broadcast channel) and then install nova-launcher or something of the sorts. I now completely switched over to CM.. still on 12.1 though, as 13 is a tad buggy atm.
Not sure on how to go about the settings menus and stuff modification, but maybe someone else has figured that one out.
As for creating an entire rom based on LG's, I'm more worried about the legal constraints than anything else... their software might be android in its core, but it's still proprietary.
Maybe you can learn more if you start helping developers with current ROM's. I've always wanted to but never had the time.
Teoritically It is possible porting LG ui and camera to cm but no one will do it because framework need do much sources otherwise it will fc
Its not even worth the work
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sebatox said:
Teoritically It is possible porting LG ui and camera to cm but no one will do it because framework need do much sources otherwise it will fc
Its not even worth the work
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I was thinking the other way. Taking a stock based ROM like Fulmics have done but stripping out the hideous LG tweaks such as the oversized navigation soft-touch buttons and the ugly status bar icons.
Also replacing LG Dialer, calculator, calendar, email, etc with the normal Android ones.
xposed all the way plus fulmocs 3.5 mm on d850 g4 tweakbox gravity box and android theme engine
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xposed all the way plus fulmocs 3.5 mm on d850 g4 tweakbox gravity box and android theme engine
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Thanks. I wanted to try an avoid xposed if poss because it messes up Snapchat but it may be the unavoidable way to go.
true it sucks too cause when it come to lg. The g2 g3 and id say so on that stock roms are better in my opinion but i dont use a lotta app most people do i dont facebook i dont even really know whT snap chat is lol im old fashioned face book is the devils tool no good will ever come of it.
Stock rom without personalization layer
It would be interesting to have a stock rom and delete completely its layer of personalization (LG UX 3.0) and have pure android without customization. Is there any possibility to delete your personalization layer? In this aspect, the rom wins much fluidity. One of the main disadvantages of using rom like cyanogenmond, is the loss of the quality of the camera (Due to the framework of LG) but its fluidity and performance is extraordinary.
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i m thinking about whether i flash a custom rom or not...
it's reli confusing....
i love the lg stock function like qmemo, qslide...
but at the same time i want kitkat since many nice apps require 4.3+ and more rom customization (modules in xposed framework dun reli work well with lg stock, just a few of them work perfectly)....
wt do u guys think i should do
sorry for my bad english
Qremote can be flashed on stock ROMs and the xfloatinghalo xposed module coupled with Notification Shortcut and Halo Shortcut gives you a feature similar to qslide but you can use any app.
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I've stuck with stock, specifically a debloated ROM, mainly for battery performance — my standby battery life is ridiculous — and text wrapping/reflow. Google seen fit to remove text wrapping/reflow in 4.4 and that's something I really need in my browser and only Opera worked on the ROMs I tested.
However, as Neroga pointed out, you can pretty much get the extra functions if you want them. Furthermore, 4.4 should be hitting the OGP in a month or two
Hey guys I'm a little sad :/
As many of you would know G3 camera support on AOSP is in a really poor condition.
The driver made by LG isn't present on AOSP, making it an utter disappointment after you get over the thrilling speed compared to LG's own rom.
I know the G2 camera has been ported, I also found a post requesting a port for G3 (last response in october), but that didn't happen.
I don't know in detail how hard the problem is, but I imagine that it should be doable unless of course this is completely proprietary code by LG.
I am imagining that you could simply move the right apk's to the phone and try out if something will work, unless of course it is in the LG kernel itself, but then maybe an LG kernel could be used with AOSP, who knows.
The guy who is working on LG XCam for both the G2 and G3 already said he will focus on LG's own roms, so that a no go as well. I have really been looking, but nothing seems to be up.
So is anyone working on this and does anyone know in detail how hard it is to solve?
Coming from Nexus 5 with SlimKat on it, LG G3 seems like the slowest thing known to man, haha, so AOSP is a must, preferably with a good camera as well.
1 moving some files wil not work start by understanding how a total framework works.
2 ya you can do kernel but do you know how it works with driver and app .
3 if you love the cam so mutch why not build a rom with lg framework ?
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1 moving some files wil not work start by understanding how a total framework works.
2 ya you can do kernel but do you know how it works with driver and app .
3 if you love the cam so mutch why not build a rom with lg framework ?
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1. I don't think the whole framework needs to be understood to port the functionality of the camera
2. No I don't, but I think the kernel is actually containing the driver, if I understand how a Linux Kernel works, but I could be wrong, since I don't know for sure on Android. Furthermore I was thinking both (parts of) the kernel and camera app could be applied to AOSP.
3. It's not the camera app or LG framework, it's the fact that the camera does not work properly on AOSP. I don't care about settings, GUI or functionality, but it simply performs like a phone from 5 years ago with 15 fps video and poor colors and constrast in images.
Hey All!
So my Nexus 4 took a big spill the other day that put it out of commission and i had to go to T-Mobile to get another phone. Last month i looked into the phones that were on the market (because my friend lost hers and i was helping her pick out a phone) and the choices we came down to were Nexus 6, Galaxy S5, and LG G3. Well She ended up finding her old phone but from that research i knew which one i wanted to get. I really like the nexus series but 6 inches is a deal-breaker for me, my biggest complaint about this LG G3 is that its too big...
In any case, i have had the phone for about one day but i can't stand the LG ROM on it. It feels slow (even with 3GB of RAM in this thing!) and I really don't like all the bloat ware the Tmobile put on my phone.
I like the stock android experience and want to find one that comes pretty close to it (although extra features are always a plus). Here is what I prioritize in my phone (starting with highest priority and going down:
-Stable, First and foremost i cannot stand a crash, i hate hate hate it. I need the ROM to work just as well (if not better) than the stock android ROMs on the nexus line
-Working Hardware, i take a bunch of pictures and am constantly using mobile data (4G LTE) so i need all these to work well
-Battery Life, I play games a lot on my phone during the day when waiting around for the bus or whatever, i like to have my battery last as long as possible so i don't need to break out a portable charger.
-Responsive, i don't need to have a ton of crazy amazing features, but i do want it to be responsive, nothing peeves me more than having input lag when texting someone.
-Customizability, i really do enjoy the fact that i can change the home buttons on that appear on the bottom of the screen on the LG G3 ROM, its a nice touch to be able to tap a button to get your notifications to pull down (especially on such a large phone), so customizability of small features like that go along way with me, small things like being able to see the day next to time i really love.
-Lastly i like to have my phone flat on my desk a lot and with the button on the back the best way to turn it on is the double tap, so if possible (but not necessary) i would like to retain that feature.
Some ROMs i have been looking at and read reviews but cant really decide which to try are Cyanogen Mod 12, Illusion, and PurpleDrake.
Based on my user profile (what is most important to me) which ROMs (can be one of the ones i listed or whatever one you think works best) would you recommend.
Also is flashing a custom kernel very popular on the LG G3? I know it was on the nexus 4 but is it also beneficial on this device?
Last, is there a good instruction on xda for rooting and unlocking the bootloader (and possibly flashing a custom recovery) for the LG G3 D851 (The specific one i have)?
Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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Thanks so much for your input! What is xposed? Is is an app that you install after flashing the ROM or is it something like GAPPS which your flash during installation of your ROM? Where can i find more information on what Xposed is and how it provides features?
Why do you say that my best bet is a stock-based ROM over an AOSP one?
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Thanks so much for your input! What is xposed? Is is an app that you install after flashing the ROM or is it something like GAPPS which your flash during installation of your ROM? Where can i find more information on what Xposed is and how it provides features?
Why do you say that my best bet is a stock-based ROM over an AOSP one?
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Basically, Xposed is a framework that allows you to install/remove codes (modules) on-the-fly. Easy to install. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-faq-issues-t2735540
Stock-based over AOSP because of your preferences lol. They're generally more stable and let you take advantage of ALL of the G3's hardware.
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Basically, Xposed is a framework that allows you to install/remove codes (modules) on-the-fly. Easy to install. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-faq-issues-t2735540
Stock-based over AOSP because of your preferences lol. They're generally more stable and let you take advantage of ALL of the G3's hardware.
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Do you know any specific problems that AOSP have with the G3 hardware over the Stock? I am really looking to get rid of bloatware and increase responsiveness and battery life. I just get this weird feeling like the stock ROM is slooooooow.
Also does the Xposed framework load down the phone at all? I feel with each module i install it would get progressively slower with all the stuff running in the background. Doesnt seem very lightweight after having the cloudyG3 installed i should have a ton of features (since its stock and not AOSP). seems like it would lag down it even more.
I'm just looking for a stable ROM with a decent set of features (i don't need anything too crazy) that is responsive (i feel with 3GB of RAM i shouldnt have to deal with lag anymore) and has a decent battery life (3000mAh is a lot, even with the large screen). What can you guys recommend based on that simply details?
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Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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I totally agree. Stock based +xposed over cm any day for stability.
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I totally agree. Stock based +xposed over cm any day for stability.
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What about Battery life? I want to get at least 4-6 hours SOT. Is that possible with stock?
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What about Battery life? I want to get at least 4-6 hours SOT. Is that possible with stock?
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i get about 4 hours sot i run stock and i used titanium backup to remove all the tmobile bloat and changed my startup and shut down logo since i run this on cricket which is now att.
i love att but will only use tmobile phones.
Hello everyone,
I recently bought a Tab S 8.4 and I do have it rooted along with a custom recovery but I'm still running the stock Lollipop Samsung ROM with Touchwiz. Here is my question: If I were to flash a non-Samsung ROM like IronROM or CM12 or anything based on AOSP, what are the Samsung features I would be losing?
Here's what I can tell so far:
Fingerprint Reader
Multi-Window
Touchwiz Overlay
Hancom Office Software
S-Voice? Unsure
Peel Smart Remote? Unsure
Toolbox
Quick Connect
Will I lose Power Saving and Ultra Saving Modes? Unsure
Guest mode/Private mode
Knox? Unsure what this does
Thank you.
Bumping this in case anyone has any insight they could share with me, thank you.
IronROM is a Touchwiz 5.0.2 ROM, not AOSP. Since you have custom recovery isntalled, you should try flashing AOSP ROMs to experience the difference yourself. Perhaps you'll become a flashaholic like many of us :victory: . A Marshmallow ROM is available. I tried several TW and AOSP ROMs on various devices, and I decided I prefer TW.
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IronROM is a Touchwiz 5.0.2 ROM, not AOSP. Since you have custom recovery isntalled, you should try flashing AOSP ROMs to experience the difference yourself. Perhaps you'll become a flashaholic like many of us :victory: . A Marshmallow ROM is available. I tried several TW and AOSP ROMs on various devices, and I decided I prefer TW.
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Unfortunately, I now consider myself to be a reformed flashaholic I was hoping to avoid flashing several ROMs since it's a time-consuming process.
I did read up on some ROMs and might move over to IronROM since it keeps some of the Samsung features that might be useful. I'll end up deleting/freezing others that I don't want I suppose.
Thanks.
Personally, the only thing that keep me from using an AOSP Rom is Split Window, something that I use a lot.
You should consider if there is some TouchWiz feature that you can't live without, I consider most of it crapware.
Dont forget to run the Wanam LP Xposed module. It adds some customizations to TW.
Thanks all. I think multi-window and fingerprint reader are enough to keep me on the TouchWiz. I'll switch to IronRom and with Xposed that should do the trick, especially if I disable a lot of other Samsung bloat. Thanks again!
One major factor to me is that aosp does not support exfat. In this day and age and the size of media files that's a killer.
Also let's put something straight. TW like any other gui such as sense is just an enhanced interface.
It does provide many useful features. Samsungs problem is its insistence on bogging it down with unnecessary bloat, also knox should be optional.
TW can be just as efficient as aosp or cm.
On the tab A they included very little bloat and it runs very well.
The tab S has quite powerful hardware and should fly, which it does when all the chaff is removed.
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One major factor to me is that aosp does not support exfat. In this day and age and the size of media files that's a killer.
Also let's put something straight. TW like any other gui such as sense is just an enhanced interface.
It does provide many useful features. Samsungs problem is its insistence on bogging it down with unnecessary bloat, also knox should be optional.
TW can be just as efficient as aosp or cm.
On the tab A they included very little bloat and it runs very well.
The tab S has quite powerful hardware and should fly, which it does when all the chaff is removed.
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Oh I had no idea about the lack of exfat support! That settles it then, I'm sticking with TW for sure and will switch to IronROM since it adds a few things and also enables the use of Xposed due to being deodexed etc. I can definitely disable the other bloat I don't need, in fact I have done that already on my current stock 5.0.2 ROM as well.
I am a serial Nexus user and the last 10 or so of my devices have all been Nexus, so TouchWiz is taking some getting used to. It does add some useful features and it's easy enough to get rid of what you don't want/need.
Thanks again everyone, much appreciated.
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Thanks all. I think multi-window and fingerprint reader are enough to keep me on the TouchWiz. I'll switch to IronRom and with Xposed that should do the trick, especially if I disable a lot of other Samsung bloat. Thanks again!
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Cm13 does suport fingerprint sensor and multi Window (not 4 Windows, or mini Windows) but fingerprint isnt working right now.
Peel does work with aosp.
S voice is crap and Google search (even cortana beta) is far better.
Toolbox can be used by using an app called Toolbox (play store it, there are 5 i think)
So, you will only lose (and miss) ultra power saving Mode, because cm13 (even xposed modules have) has Its own saving Mode called doze
Knox is a security Mode to protect your info. (i never use it)
Guest/private Mode, are cm since cm12 and of course on cm 13 too
Soundcamp, the music workstation from Samsung, does not work on AOSP but is OK on IronRom.
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Cm13 does suport fingerprint sensor and multi Window (not 4 Windows, or mini Windows) but fingerprint isnt working right now.
Peel does work with aosp.
S voice is crap and Google search (even cortana beta) is far better.
Toolbox can be used by using an app called Toolbox (play store it, there are 5 i think)
So, you will only lose (and miss) ultra power saving Mode, because cm13 (even xposed modules have) has Its own saving Mode called doze
Knox is a security Mode to protect your info. (i never use it)
Guest/private Mode, are cm since cm12 and of course on cm 13 too
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Finger print will never work for this device on an AOSP ROM. The sensor is a proprietary Samsung device, they will not release the source code for it. Regardless of the native support for fingerprint sensors in MM, it is impossible to build support for the Samsung sensors into an AOSP ROM without the source code.
Okay, I'm reverting back to my G3 after using Android N on my Nexus 6 for the past half-a-year, so I'm debating between Fulmics or something Nougat-flavored (RR, Lineage, crDroid, AICP, maybe Beanstalk?)
My priorities look like:
Ability to pass SafetyNet
Ability to enable tethering
High quality Camera (maybe built from G3 Stock?)
Stable
Well supported / vetted
Runs smooth
Can handle Pokemon GO well
Good battery life
Useful multitasking (like Android N's multi-screen & switching controls)
Ability to reply from notifications menu
Smooth, streamlined quick-setting toggles (esp. for tethering, wifi, and flashlight)
Other bells and whistles are fun (Now On Tap, etc.) but not super necessary
The reason I'm leaning towards Fulmics, in spite of it's Marshmallow flavor, is I remember the stock G3 Camera being something exclusive to stock-based ROMs... and from what I gather, that would mean anything built from Nougat would *not* have access to that Camera, right? Do other ROMs still have good Cameras? I remember the G3 being quite finicky in that regard...
That said, I really like some of the Nougat additions I've gotten used to. Notably, I like being able to reply to messages straight from the notifications menu, I like the streamlined style of the toggles, and while I believe Fulmics can do this I like the double-tap-to-switch-apps feature and multi-window feature of the task switcher
I also will need whatever I go with to pass SafetyNet – which it seems any of the ones I listed can so long as I configured Magisk right?