Titanium Backup alternatives? - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Ok I flashed a stock ruu.zip and restored full stock firmware
I have never seen this phone so smooth and fast
but...as I restored my apps with titanium backup everything was just as always.....scrolling doesn't feel 60fps, and I have a trained eye (play at 75hz on pc)
I always had this feeling of titanium f+k!ng up the rom, but this time is too obvious.
so, is there any alternative app for just user app backup/restore? something decent, updated and that just works
I restored 20 apps, I don't think that the problem is app quantity...or root itself
Thank you for your attention

I doubt that TiBu is the culprit. What might be happening is that you are experiencing corruption or issues related to migrating data from ROM versions using the wrong method, which is why TiBu offers different methods (XML vs 'snapshot') of backup and restore. I'm not sure from a technical standpoint why that would possibly affect your performance - perhaps someone else can explain, but I've never noticed any issue with TiBu at all.

Thank you very much for your comment
I have always kept backups not only changing roms, but also phones
For example. these backups are partially from nexus 5x and m9
Which method should I use to ensure a decent compatibility?

I've never had an issue with titanium either changing rooms from sense to aosp and back and phones. I would install one thing at a time and reboot after each install to figure out which package is causing the lag. Sounds tedious but it's the only way to figure where your issue is

I'm going to flash stock back and use titanium just for few necessary apps
let's see if I'm crazy or not
anyway, I think that mine is a very small problem that not anyone would notice....these stutters are veeery very small

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Titanium Backup. Has anyone lost faith in it?

I'm hating it with a passion and I don't know if its something that I may be missing. I purchased the full version and use it to ''Backup Apps + Data'' since I know that backing up system data screws up your phone.
Everytime I switch ROMs I run ''restore apps + data'' and upon completion I run into a ton of force closes and terrible lag issues. I also notice that the lag happens when I'm browsing on 4g. (the force closes happen all the time with almost all the apps)
I end up downloading all my apps all over again and losing my achievements and progress in games. I beat Angry Birds in like 2 days and now I have to do it again.
By the way I always download the busybox in the problems link in titanium backup. I always wipe dalvik and factory reset in between ROMs.
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I only get problems when I restore system apps, If I just restore user apps there is no problem. dont restore system data, it will overwrite the good new stuff in the new rom you just flashed and frankenstein it into both the old and the new, hence yhe fc's
sounds like you're restoring something you shouldn't. Don't just do a batch restore, make sure that you're only restoring the apps you want.
Different roms work with different version of wireless tether, spare parts, etc. Just as ZJ mentioned, you restore something that a new rom changed and it could cause problems.
Also, be careful switching between Sense and AOSP Roms, even with just user apps. People have had problems with that. But going from AOSP rom to AOSP rom, I've never had a problem. (I have the paid version, and I switch back and forth constantly.)
I wouldn't say that I've lost faith in TB, but I have never really been a big fan of it. The only things I b/u with TB is Angry Birds, and bookmarks. Everything else I b/u to Astro, or just re-d/l from the market. I try to do a clean install from the market whenever switching ROMS to avoid any data issues.
I use it every time I do a rom to restore all my apps and certain system data. The green things are typically OK to restore to any LIKE rom (sense or ASOP)
Restore like sms messages, bluetooth, wireless, etc.
Don't restore the red stuff.
Ok I will try some of those suggestions.
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GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...
Does titanium not work well with an Apps2Sd?
SantinoInc said:
GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...
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I'm very anal about my home screen and have it set up the same way regardless of what ROM I use. It's easy for me to remember because I prefer using 3 screens. I just notice lag when scrolling through my apps or random force closes on apps I use often. Like you mentioned before I only do a batch backup of installed apps and then I restore apps + data only (not system data).
The mistake I was probably making was having the restore overwrite the newer/existing versions of the same app that came with the ROM I just flashed.
I have noticed when I do a titanium full batch app & all data restore my emails will not auto sync. I have to open and refresh to get it to work.

Few questions with flashing ROMs

So I've been using mikfroyo for a bit now, then I wanted to try and switch to CyanogenMod 6.6.1(i think?)
Regardless, I did all the main steps...backing up all the apps...nandroid backup...wipe of everything...install ROM however a few issues arose that I wanted to address when I flashed Cyanogen..these issues all caused me to restore my mikfroyo..
1. When I try and restore all my apps and data with Titanium, it asks me to install EACH AND EVERY app that I ever downloaded before. Is there a way I can just auto accept them all? Am I pressing the right buttons for backing up and restoring? I usually run the batch operation "Backup all user apps + system data" and when restoring I always select "Restore all apps with data"
2. I could not post my original wallpaper that I had from mikfroyo, it would either use a random cyanogen themed wallpaper, or the screen would just go blank
3. All my saved game data was officially gone. Honestly this was the biggest issue, playing a game where you level up for months just to see it all go to waste is just demoralizing.
If anyone has the answers to these issues I'd be very grateful. I'd really like to explore beyond the world of MikFroYo!
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R1pTheJacka said:
So I've been using mikfroyo for a bit now, then I wanted to try and switch to CyanogenMod 6.6.1(i think?)
Regardless, I did all the main steps...backing up all the apps...nandroid backup...wipe of everything...install ROM however a few issues arose that I wanted to address when I flashed Cyanogen..these issues all caused me to restore my mikfroyo..
1. When I try and restore all my apps and data with Titanium, it asks me to install EACH AND EVERY app that I ever downloaded before. Is there a way I can just auto accept them all? Am I pressing the right buttons for backing up and restoring? I usually run the batch operation "Backup all user apps + system data" and when restoring I always select "Restore all apps with data"
2. I could not post my original wallpaper that I had from mikfroyo, it would either use a random cyanogen themed wallpaper, or the screen would just go blank
3. All my saved game data was officially gone. Honestly this was the biggest issue, playing a game where you level up for months just to see it all go to waste is just demoralizing.
If anyone has the answers to these issues I'd be very grateful. I'd really like to explore beyond the world of MikFroYo!
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1) Sadly no
2) I don't understand this question?
3) If you saved with Titanium this shouldn't be an issue
1) there is a way to not have to install all apps automatically but you have to purchase the paid app of titanium backup.
2) which wallpaper are you trying to use??? I also don't understand this question.
3) with titanium backup it saves the data for the apps you backup. Bit you need to make sure that you choose the correct batch to backup.
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1) that is a limitation of the free version sadly. Titanium is one of the few apps I can honestly say was worth paying for & now it's actually on the market unlike the way I had to buy it
2) all old wallpapers will be gone from that directory sorry :/
3) you just wiped EVERYTHING! However, with titanium you'll be able to restore game data hopefully
sorry for being undescriptive about number 2, but what i mean is that when i used mikfroyo i just had a wallpaper of a hot girl, and when i switched to CMod it automatically set the wallpaper as soemthing from CMod of course, but when i tried to set it back to ANYTHING else of mine the wallpaper would either switch to another CMod wallpaper, or the wallpaper would just be black
also i hear a lot about mybackup as an alternative, can anyone confirm that my issues wont occur using this app as opposed to titanium? (saved data/installing each and every app one by one)
R1pTheJacka said:
sorry for being undescriptive about number 2, but what i mean is that when i used mikfroyo i just had a wallpaper of a hot girl, and when i switched to CMod it automatically set the wallpaper as soemthing from CMod of course, but when i tried to set it back to ANYTHING else of mine the wallpaper would either switch to another CMod wallpaper, or the wallpaper would just be black
also i hear a lot about mybackup as an alternative, can anyone confirm that my issues wont occur using this app as opposed to titanium? (saved data/installing each and every app one by one)
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I used MyBackup Root and it was pretty seamless to me. I've never used titanium so I don't know how to compare it. MyBackup Root does APK's and their data though, and it's all automatic

Using Launcher Pro, looking to uninstall unneeded Sense

Since I use Launcher Pro instead of the default sense I was wondering if someone could let me know which things would be safe to uninstall?
So far..
Rosie.apk
POQbum said:
Since I use Launcher Pro instead of the default sense I was wondering if someone could let me know which things would be safe to uninstall?
So far..
Rosie.apk
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I've done this same thing, removed all HTC* and Sense* apps and services from my phone. I staged it using Titanium to freeze them all first, then after a week of no crashes, no FC's , and having the kernel I wanted, I removed them all.
The problem I'm having is how to convey this info to you. Titanium backup will produce a list but it seems a bug will only list the user apps, not the system ones in the resultant email.
I think I could just do a complete listing from adb of the content of /system/app, and you can diff it with your own to produce things that do no harm when removed.
If you're interested, let me know. There is , I think, no "sense" left when done with this. Compared to say the Rom called Senseless R., it has much less apps & services (that are all social networking garbage) installed and it runs very well. Normally, at any given time, it is running 8-18 services & apps, compared to ~50-60 before I did this.
I guess I'd rather make my own mistakes then install someone else's. (which might make you think twice about doing anything I recommend )
Of course, as always, do a full nandroid backup before starting on this type of thing. Remove one wrong thing and you're likely not going to be able to reboot, but I think if you freeze them first with TB, then you might be able to boot using 'safe mode' (see XDA) and still unfreeze the culprit keeping it from rebooting (use logcat to figure it out if you can).
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Thanks for the tips.
I'm using 'root uninstaller' that shows all apps and 'com.android' stuff.
I did a full backup and am experimenting uninstalling different things.
One of the .htc uninstalls resulted in crashing mms, 3g and just about anything major like the dialer.
Slowly and surely I'm doing a full backup everytime I get to a point where I uninstalled a few things and everything still works great.
I haven't been keeping track of exactly what I've been uninstalling so I guess I can't help out anyone in the future :/

[Q] How are people going to migrate their apps to Jelly Bean?

I've been reading that we should not use Titanium Backup to migrate our apps & data to Jelly Bean.
However, my GF has several games where she has spent tons of time and has lots of progress and doesn't want to start over (ie, Smurfs, Sims Free Play, etc)
What's the best migrate path that will move our data over to JB and not cause any issues?
Yeah that's serious issue, my GF plays Smurfvillage too and she doesn't know how to transfer her progress either.
Well she is stuck with my old Nexus One anyway, so she isn't going anywhere
TiBu plays nice for the majority of apps and data, it's just not keen on modifying or removing /system apps.
All my data moved over fine, no problems so far. I'm sure by the time you think about moving over, the app would of been updated anyway.
I seem to be the minority here...
But I used JB for two days with absolutely no problems.
Titanium restored everything just fine :good:.
I also had no problems nandroid restoring back onto AOKP when I was done derping about with JB.
I'd recommend adb pulling your /data/media portion after nandroiding.
Just in case you run into the issues many are reporting.
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I've been reading that we should not use Titanium Backup to migrate our apps & data to Jelly Bean.
However, my GF has several games where she has spent tons of time and has lots of progress and doesn't want to start over (ie, Smurfs, Sims Free Play, etc)
What's the best migrate path that will move our data over to JB and not cause any issues?
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There are no issues with restoring apps using Titanium Backup. The issues people were having have to do with freezing or uninstalling system apps.
efrant said:
The issues people were having have to do with freezing or uninstalling system apps.
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An issue which Rom Toolbox seems to take care of quite nicely on Jelly Bean (tested personally by me!)
Looks like the best course of action is to do an ADB app backup and wait until TiBu updates to JB.
Thanks!
same no issues with tibu
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Neo3D said:
Looks like the best course of action is to do an ADB app backup and wait until TiBu updates to JB.
Thanks!
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It was already mentioned that there are NO issues with backup/restore in Titanium Backup.
Only my contact list has lost some entries, evererything else perfect!

[Q] Backing Up N7 2

Hi All. First time poster. I've been an iOS guy since the 3GS, but over the last 6 months or so started to look at moving away from Apple due to their price structure. After picking up a N7 2 for a fraction of the cost of an rMini, I couldn't be happier and might never go back to Apple. I'm still getting use to the differences between the ecosystems and the differences in how things worked. It's amazing how many things are different.
The one nice thing I liked about Apple/iTunes/iOS was the way you could backup a device and when you restored it even GUI preferences were restored. So if you had a News folder all your news apps were in the folder in the same location on the screen.
I've done some searching, and I know there are some third party apps that do local backups but I haven't been able to find if there is anything, including the stock Google backup, that will do a backup to include system settings to the same level of detail as iTunes did. Can someone point me in the right directions? Does Titanium Backup do this? What all does the stock backup program backup? When you restore an Android device is it smart enough to redownload all the apps that were on the device? Is there a part of this question that I'm missing?
System settings don't get restored for the most part. This is due to it causing problems (especially when flashing ROMs). Homescreens can be saved if you use a third party launcher such as nova or apex. Titanium can backup system apps like settings and restore it, but that can cause major issues, so just avoid it. Stock backup can backup apps, photos, pretty much just core things. When restoring, there's an option to allow the device to restore all your apps.
prsterero said:
System settings don't get restored for the most part. This is due to it causing problems (especially when flashing ROMs). Homescreens can be saved if you use a third party launcher such as nova or apex. Titanium can backup system apps like settings and restore it, but that can cause major issues, so just avoid it. Stock backup can backup apps, photos, pretty much just core things. When restoring, there's an option to allow the device to restore all your apps.
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So what I'm hearing is that if you want to make sure that you get a good restore it's best to always start from scratch.
A0425A said:
So what I'm hearing is that if you want to make sure that you get a good restore it's best to always start from scratch.
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Not always. The restoring of apps is usually only an issue with restoring data of ones that were used on ICS and then you flashed a jb ROM. I've always restored app and data with titanium and never had an issue. Just don't do that with system apk's.
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