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Best way to back up apps/settings?

Ok, I have the Evo completely rooted.
I want to be able to back up my applications, settings for those applications, as well as standard settings on my phone.
Titanium Backup - I can backup apps, however system info seems to break / cause force closes among different roms. It is hard to tell what is important and what isn't. I want settings such as default ringtone / configured desktop widgets and folders / wifi settings / lock pattern etc. to be backed up and restored easily.
Nandroid - Nandroid backups are almost perfect, except that they don't work w/ different roms. I want it to do exactly what it does.. copy everything as is.. but while retaining the functionality of the rom I choose. I get that this is not what it is supposed to do, I'm just giving it as an example as to what I would like in a back up app.
So basically, I want to be able to easily switch between roms (I use Avalaunch Froyo most of the time, 2.1 for photos/recording etc, and will probably use new Froyo builds coming soon) and maintain all the OS settings and App settings. So far I haven't been able to find what I need. Can someone point me in the right direction?

ive always has this question as well...

I am not sure how often you switch between ROM's, but I switch every other day or so. When I switch I make a NANDROID before hand then when I get to the new ROM I delete the old one off the SD card. I know that isnt an answer to you question. It is just what I do and it works for me. If there is a program that would back up all of it would be amazing.

Titanium backup. Available in the android market. Only works on rooted phones.

carguy4471 said:
Titanium backup. Available in the android market. Only works on rooted phones.
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Not to sound like a douche, but I'm fairly certain you didn't even read the post.

Check out my sig. All your answers should be in my guide. If you have any questions or think it's missing something feel free to leave a comment in that thread.

I checked it out, and it just isn't specific enough. It is good though.
As a previous poster said, I change my rom every few days and do Nandroid backups.. but with the new froyo source released, I'm sure a flood of good roms will come out, and while I try them out, I don't want to have to configure my basic settings each time, such as where I like my widgets, enabling swype keyboard, or disabling default SMS and setting all the options in handcent, etc.
Trust me, it takes over an hour each time. As more cool apps come out, it'll take more time to configure. Also, since Sprint is awesome and lets you upgrade every year now by being a premier customer, I plan on sticking w/ android and want to be able to have a smooth transition when I get my next phone.
Titanium Backup seems like it can get the job done, and maybe I just need a specific listing of which system data file is for what. I tried to copy just the things that seemed necessary, and I still got force closes on things such as trying to open my sound settings.

Most of the system items highlighted in Green in Titanium are of important settings/databases. Also, I can confirm that if you back up the "[DESKTOP]HTC Sense 1.00" entry, then your sense Desktop (meaning icon locations and widget placements) will be restored to where you had them.
If you are not running Sense though, and instead using a custom launcher like ADW, helix, launcher pro, etc...Then I can only guess that if you back up those using the App+Data option that it will also remember icon/widget placements, but that is only an assumption. I have limited experience with those launchers.

MichaelWestin said:
I checked it out, and it just isn't specific enough. It is good though.
As a previous poster said, I change my rom every few days and do Nandroid backups.. but with the new froyo source released, I'm sure a flood of good roms will come out, and while I try them out, I don't want to have to configure my basic settings each time, such as where I like my widgets, enabling swype keyboard, or disabling default SMS and setting all the options in handcent, etc.
Trust me, it takes over an hour each time. As more cool apps come out, it'll take more time to configure. Also, since Sprint is awesome and lets you upgrade every year now by being a premier customer, I plan on sticking w/ android and want to be able to have a smooth transition when I get my next phone.
Titanium Backup seems like it can get the job done, and maybe I just need a specific listing of which system data file is for what. I tried to copy just the things that seemed necessary, and I still got force closes on things such as trying to open my sound settings.
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If you are going to be going back and forth between Froyo and Sense 2.1, don't bother trying to back up your account/widget/home configuration. It's different between the two and could mess things up. Also, many people put out roms that are zipaligned or deodexed, you might not want to restore stock apps on top of those.
I'd recommend doing two things.
1. Use a nandroid backup to save a "snapshot" of your current rom so that you can easily go back to it (with all of your settings intact).
2. Use Titanium Backup to just get your user apps and information when you want to move to a new rom. Setting things back up can take a little time, but it's better than wondering why you're getting force-closes or wakelock problems. This will keep all of your user app settings (like Handcent or Swype) but you will just need to enable them in your settings menu.

Titanium Backup. Has anyone lost faith in it?

I'm hating it with a passion and I don't know if its something that I may be missing. I purchased the full version and use it to ''Backup Apps + Data'' since I know that backing up system data screws up your phone.
Everytime I switch ROMs I run ''restore apps + data'' and upon completion I run into a ton of force closes and terrible lag issues. I also notice that the lag happens when I'm browsing on 4g. (the force closes happen all the time with almost all the apps)
I end up downloading all my apps all over again and losing my achievements and progress in games. I beat Angry Birds in like 2 days and now I have to do it again.
By the way I always download the busybox in the problems link in titanium backup. I always wipe dalvik and factory reset in between ROMs.
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I only get problems when I restore system apps, If I just restore user apps there is no problem. dont restore system data, it will overwrite the good new stuff in the new rom you just flashed and frankenstein it into both the old and the new, hence yhe fc's

sounds like you're restoring something you shouldn't. Don't just do a batch restore, make sure that you're only restoring the apps you want.
Different roms work with different version of wireless tether, spare parts, etc. Just as ZJ mentioned, you restore something that a new rom changed and it could cause problems.

Also, be careful switching between Sense and AOSP Roms, even with just user apps. People have had problems with that. But going from AOSP rom to AOSP rom, I've never had a problem. (I have the paid version, and I switch back and forth constantly.)

I wouldn't say that I've lost faith in TB, but I have never really been a big fan of it. The only things I b/u with TB is Angry Birds, and bookmarks. Everything else I b/u to Astro, or just re-d/l from the market. I try to do a clean install from the market whenever switching ROMS to avoid any data issues.

I use it every time I do a rom to restore all my apps and certain system data. The green things are typically OK to restore to any LIKE rom (sense or ASOP)
Restore like sms messages, bluetooth, wireless, etc.
Don't restore the red stuff.

Ok I will try some of those suggestions.
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GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...

Does titanium not work well with an Apps2Sd?

SantinoInc said:
GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...
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I'm very anal about my home screen and have it set up the same way regardless of what ROM I use. It's easy for me to remember because I prefer using 3 screens. I just notice lag when scrolling through my apps or random force closes on apps I use often. Like you mentioned before I only do a batch backup of installed apps and then I restore apps + data only (not system data).
The mistake I was probably making was having the restore overwrite the newer/existing versions of the same app that came with the ROM I just flashed.

I have noticed when I do a titanium full batch app & all data restore my emails will not auto sync. I have to open and refresh to get it to work.

New ROM; Needing old App

Im about to flash to a new ROM from Myn's Warm 2.2. Love the ROM but I wanted to venture to another to test out. However, I have an application called AuthAnvil, it is used at work and is a variable pin code that syncs with a server. Is there any god forsaken way to save the app data so I do not have to jump through the hoops at work to resync the app. I did a full ROM backup just in case and also a Titanium backup. Will this work for me to restore it to the new ROM all settings in tact?

It should work fine if you backed up the app and system data to go with it. What I do in TB is make a custom filter with apps and their data that are really important that way I only back up what I need.
I make a filter called important then restore my apps/data to new rom, works flawless.
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dirkyd3rk said:
It should work fine if you backed up the app and system data to go with it. What I do in TB is make a custom filter with apps and their data that are really important that way I only back up what I need.
I make a filter called important then restore my apps/data to new rom, works flawless.
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yea but TB has known to be unstable when going from dif. types of ROMs, like from froyo to ginger, sense 1 to sense 2.1 or 3.0, etc. I would look on your SD card to see if any data is on there.. or if possible move app to SD then copy data, put back on after reflashing.

Its been a while since I posted on this but I have diagnosed this a few separate times and Finally! the authentication app company actually had enough complaints to post something on their FAQ.
But it seems that there are certain app's like say an authenticator that when you download it to a sense based rom you can flash all day long to different sense based roms without any issues. Once you go to any AOSP roms it will break the key generator. You can restore it all you want, it will not display the digits.
Now my real curiosity is that its just an app, it doesn't know the difference thats in on a HTC sense based phone or a Samsung. Am I looking to much into it because it is a Two factor authentication app and more stuff runs then I realize? Or is the app design flawed?

[Q] Widgets Dissapearing after reboot, regular launcher, no root

I am completely stock and I have never rooted my phone or done anything other than use Go Launcher Ex up until a month ago. I recently discovered that I don't have to use the TWLauncher but that I can in fact use the regular Launcher on my Epic 4g Touch. So I uninstalled Go Launcher and started using the regular launcher (I'm on FI27 by the way).
The problem is all of my widgets dissapear off of my home screen after each and every reboot (and yes, I wait for Media scanning to complete. Still nothing). This is true for stock widgets and 3rd party widgets. The only issue I've found like this in my Google searches are people that had their apps/widgets moved to their SD card. Mine are not. I'm completely stumped. I really don't want to use the TW launcher and as much as I like the flexibility of Go Launcher EX I really really like the smoothnes and simplicity of the standard launcher and would hate to have to go back either of the other ones.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to do a wipe simply because I am really lazy and don't want to have to reinstall my apps again, but if you think that is necassary please recommend the best way to make the app download and reinstallation as quick as possible for my lazy behind.
Thanks!

App Backup & Restore from play store will backup the apps but not data. There are similar apps for backing up sms and call logs too.

someguyatx said:
App Backup & Restore from play store will backup the apps but not data. There are similar apps for backing up sms and call logs too.
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So I'm guessing from your reply that you either A: Have not heard of this issue and therefore do not know of a fix or B: You have heard of it and the fix is to restore my device.
I'll give it another day or two to see if anyone else has come across this and found a fix but I guess I'm gonna have to try a wipe. I just hope that works.
Thank you for your suggestions sir and I will start researching further to try and make my restore as fast as possible.

[Q] Backing Up N7 2

Hi All. First time poster. I've been an iOS guy since the 3GS, but over the last 6 months or so started to look at moving away from Apple due to their price structure. After picking up a N7 2 for a fraction of the cost of an rMini, I couldn't be happier and might never go back to Apple. I'm still getting use to the differences between the ecosystems and the differences in how things worked. It's amazing how many things are different.
The one nice thing I liked about Apple/iTunes/iOS was the way you could backup a device and when you restored it even GUI preferences were restored. So if you had a News folder all your news apps were in the folder in the same location on the screen.
I've done some searching, and I know there are some third party apps that do local backups but I haven't been able to find if there is anything, including the stock Google backup, that will do a backup to include system settings to the same level of detail as iTunes did. Can someone point me in the right directions? Does Titanium Backup do this? What all does the stock backup program backup? When you restore an Android device is it smart enough to redownload all the apps that were on the device? Is there a part of this question that I'm missing?

System settings don't get restored for the most part. This is due to it causing problems (especially when flashing ROMs). Homescreens can be saved if you use a third party launcher such as nova or apex. Titanium can backup system apps like settings and restore it, but that can cause major issues, so just avoid it. Stock backup can backup apps, photos, pretty much just core things. When restoring, there's an option to allow the device to restore all your apps.

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System settings don't get restored for the most part. This is due to it causing problems (especially when flashing ROMs). Homescreens can be saved if you use a third party launcher such as nova or apex. Titanium can backup system apps like settings and restore it, but that can cause major issues, so just avoid it. Stock backup can backup apps, photos, pretty much just core things. When restoring, there's an option to allow the device to restore all your apps.
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So what I'm hearing is that if you want to make sure that you get a good restore it's best to always start from scratch.

A0425A said:
So what I'm hearing is that if you want to make sure that you get a good restore it's best to always start from scratch.
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Not always. The restoring of apps is usually only an issue with restoring data of ones that were used on ICS and then you flashed a jb ROM. I've always restored app and data with titanium and never had an issue. Just don't do that with system apk's.
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